BORN RETARDED !!!!!!!!why??????

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#22
Aug 14, 2012
 
poupou atu judge
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Aug 14, 2012
 
tukutukulaumea wrote:
Jay,
'Oku 'ikai keu tui au ki he KARMA.
Me'a pe 'oku ou tui au ki ai, ko e tokotaha kotoa pe ko e fa'u mei he 'imisi 'o e 'Otua. Retarded or not, they are still God's image.
And I believe that they are there for us to test ourselves. Sometimes we push them away, myself included but later on you feel guilty and wanted to help them.
Everything is in place for a purpose.
But KARMA, sorry mate,'ikai keu tui au ki ai.
Tuku,'oua teke fu'u hoha'a ki ai, he 'oku 'ikai ke 'i ai ha fu'u poini fefee ia 'i he ngaahi fokotu'utu'u retarded mo e fekumi 'a Jaypeku ki he tokolahi ha'a ne ki'i kakai ke nau ta'aki 'a e kau faifekau hingaa,'osi 'oku 'ikai 'omi ha hingoa, hihihihihihi, pea kuo a'u ee ki Amelika lahi si'ene fakasiosio holo ai 'a e ngaue 'a e kau faifekau ni, hahahahaha, Pea he'ikai ha ofo 'i he 'e ne afe mai 'eni 'o tatanaki ha'a ne ki'i kakai ke nau talanoa 'o lau'i 'a e si'i kakai retarded????? I wonder what action that any person can do, or say, that will tell us that he or she is retarded???? Will Jay be one of them, from the way she exposed herself in this forum??? Tuku 'a e 'ita he ko e me'a ia 'a e ta'e kaukau. hahahahaha

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#24
Aug 14, 2012
 
its not a curse and it's not genetic, each human being is born different, some medical explaination can be contributing factors and others unknown just like what Judge has said.
so Jaybaz i think you need to find a less sensitive topic when you do a post because you get attacked everytime you mention something stupid or irrelevant.....and that is KARMA
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Aug 14, 2012
 
faiongoongo wrote:
its not a curse and it's not genetic, each human being is born different, some medical explaination can be contributing factors and others unknown just like what Judge has said.
so Jaybaz i think you need to find a less sensitive topic when you do a post because you get attacked everytime you mention something stupid or irrelevant.....and that is KARMA
Faiongoongo, I do not think that any one wants to attack Jaybaz, but his wild topic with out any back ground or some kind of fact or information that will lead the discussion to some fruitful result.

He ko e me'a pe 'oku mahino ia 'i he taimi ni,'oku lahi 'a e ngaahi topic kuo 'omi 'e he tangata ni, pea 'oku lahi ange ai 'a e fekau 'oku talamai 'e he 'e ne ngaahi topic 'o fekau'a mo e fo'i pupuu 'oku hili 'i hono vaha'a uma.lol hahahahahaha

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Aug 15, 2012
 
Hisa wrote:
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Faiongoongo, I do not think that any one wants to attack Jaybaz, but his wild topic with out any back ground or some kind of fact or information that will lead the discussion to some fruitful result.
He ko e me'a pe 'oku mahino ia 'i he taimi ni,'oku lahi 'a e ngaahi topic kuo 'omi 'e he tangata ni, pea 'oku lahi ange ai 'a e fekau 'oku talamai 'e he 'e ne ngaahi topic 'o fekau'a mo e fo'i pupuu 'oku hili 'i hono vaha'a uma.lol hahahahahaha
Masi'i Hisa, kapau ko ia pea kou pehee 'e au 'oku retarded pe mo Jaybaz ia ... ka e vakai fakalelei atu pe na'a kuo hiki hake me'a ia lalo 'o 'ai ia he vaha'auma ka e 'alu hifo e me'a ia 'i olunga 'o 'ai ia he vaha'a me'a 'i lalo ... tulou pe mo e ha'ofanga ko e toki vaha'a moluu mo'oni ia ... hahahah
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Aug 15, 2012
 
tukutukulaumea wrote:
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Masi'i Hisa, kapau ko ia pea kou pehee 'e au 'oku retarded pe mo Jaybaz ia ... ka e vakai fakalelei atu pe na'a kuo hiki hake me'a ia lalo 'o 'ai ia he vaha'auma ka e 'alu hifo e me'a ia 'i olunga 'o 'ai ia he vaha'a me'a 'i lalo ... tulou pe mo e ha'ofanga ko e toki vaha'a moluu mo'oni ia ... hahahah
koe fai e hiki holo pea faifai pea too ha me'a o tu'u ai ha lango he jay ee hehehe
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Aug 15, 2012
 
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koe fai e hiki holo pea faifai pea too ha me'a o tu'u ai ha lango he jay ee hehehe
Judge mo Tuku, mo kataki he ko e 'atunga ai pe ia 'o e nofo ma'u 'a e loto mo e 'atamai, pea mo e kotoa 'o e fk-kaukau 'i hono fk-maau'i fk'aho 'o e kakai, pea automatic pe 'a 'ene hoko 'ana ki he ngaahi me'a 'oku ne fakaanga'i 'aki 'a e kakai lol hahahahahaha.

Ko talanoa 'a Jayb ki he hinga 'a e kau faifekau,'ikai ke ne 'ilo'i te ne fai 'e ia 'o liunga lahi, hehehehe pea to e fakaoli 'aki, he 'oku 'ikai ngata pe he kau fakaleitii, ka e toe hoko atu ki he 'e ne fu'u kulii, pea kuo 'ilo ia 'e ho nau ki'i feitu'u,'o'ikai ai to e lava si'i Jaybaz 'o hu ki tu'a 'i he uike kakato hahahahahah

Pea ko 'e ne lahi pe 'a e lea atu ki he 'e ne topic, pea talamai 'e Ngututamulea, "'ikai ko e 'ai pe ia ke 'ilo ki ai 'a e fanau ke nau fakamama'o mei he kaui faifekau ko ia". Ne sio ho keukeu ko ha feitu'u 'eni ke hua'i mai ai 'a e tee ke ako ai ha taha lol hiihihihihihi.

'Io, fu'u lahi ho'o nofo 'i he kaveinga fk-mala'ia, and now you become like one!!!!!!! hhhhhoooooiiiii. Jaybaz, we called it RETARDED, in case you don't know hahahahahahahahahaha.
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Aug 15, 2012
 
tukutukulaumea wrote:
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Masi'i Hisa, kapau ko ia pea kou pehee 'e au 'oku retarded pe mo Jaybaz ia ... ka e vakai fakalelei atu pe na'a kuo hiki hake me'a ia lalo 'o 'ai ia he vaha'auma ka e 'alu hifo e me'a ia 'i olunga 'o 'ai ia he vaha'a me'a 'i lalo ... tulou pe mo e ha'ofanga ko e toki vaha'a moluu mo'oni ia ... hahahah
'Oi au eeeee Tuku, ko e ha kuo ke ngaue'aki ai 'a e toki tamate lol heheheheh. He 'oku ou pehee 'e au ko e fakakaukau 'o e fehikitaki,'oku ngaue 'aki pe ki he fehikitaki 'a e kau faifekau na'e talanoa ki ai 'a si'i Jaybaz, pea mo e kau faiako. Pea ko e fehikitaki fakamuimui 'eni,'a e hiki hake 'a lalo ki 'olunga, pea 'eve'eva hifo 'a 'olunga ki lalo hihihihi lol!!!!!'Oi auee,'oiaueee,'oiaueee te u mate he kata, he ko'eku toki fanongo 'e ni 'i he fo'i me'a fo'ou lahi faufaua hahahahah.

'A ia ko si'i Jaybaz pe 'oku ne ma'u 'a e koloa ko ia. Pea ta ne'ine'i ke ha'u 'e ne ngaahi topic 'oku ha'u faka-lalo peee, he kuo fai tu'utu'uni 'a lalo he kuo 'i 'olunga iaaa hhhhheeeeee lol.

Tuku, te u hola meiate koe he 'oku ke fu'u fk-tu'utamaki 'aupito hahahaha.

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#30
Aug 15, 2012
 
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'Oi au eeeee Tuku, ko e ha kuo ke ngaue'aki ai 'a e toki tamate lol heheheheh. He 'oku ou pehee 'e au ko e fakakaukau 'o e fehikitaki,'oku ngaue 'aki pe ki he fehikitaki 'a e kau faifekau na'e talanoa ki ai 'a si'i Jaybaz, pea mo e kau faiako. Pea ko e fehikitaki fakamuimui 'eni,'a e hiki hake 'a lalo ki 'olunga, pea 'eve'eva hifo 'a 'olunga ki lalo hihihihi lol!!!!!'Oi auee,'oiaueee,'oiaueee te u mate he kata, he ko'eku toki fanongo 'e ni 'i he fo'i me'a fo'ou lahi faufaua hahahahah.
'A ia ko si'i Jaybaz pe 'oku ne ma'u 'a e koloa ko ia. Pea ta ne'ine'i ke ha'u 'e ne ngaahi topic 'oku ha'u faka-lalo peee, he kuo fai tu'utu'uni 'a lalo he kuo 'i 'olunga iaaa hhhhheeeeee lol.
Tuku, te u hola meiate koe he 'oku ke fu'u fk-tu'utamaki 'aupito hahahaha.
'Oua te ke toe kalo Hisa eh hahahaha ko e anga pe ia 'etau talanga 'atautolu ko e 'ai pe ha me'a ke ma'u ai ha'atau oli hahahaha
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#31
Aug 16, 2012
 
Jaybaz Ngututamulea wrote:
Thermometer !!!
I too belive in Karma !!!!
Ka pau tete fai ha kovi 'o fk-mamahi'i mo'ui ha laumalie kehe !!!!! Kou tui koe BAD KARMA ia 'e tuli he taha na'ane fai 'ae fk-mamahi.
Taimi ni'ihi 'oku fa'a hoko ia ke fua 'ehe fanau, pea toe fk-mamahi ange ia.
How than do we avoid the bad karma ??????
Because its like the saying ! You reap wht you sow.
Thnx for the input :)
Everybody will experiences negative moments in their life. That only means that you learn from your mistakes or you have bad experiences to challenge you to either be a better person or learn from that bad experience. I think karma is something different, everybody can receive good karma in other words blessings or good things that come to you unexpectedly.

As for curse I think this is completely different from karma. That is why I say that in order for this to happen to a person you either have to believe in this or be contributing to the curse.

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#32
Aug 16, 2012
 
Malo e lelei 'ae ta'ahine ko :: Hisa pehe kia Sipela mo Tukutukulaumea, lava pe ia ke toe liliu mai ho hingoa !

Loki hala moe topic hala 'eni ke si'i ha'u 'o kalou ai.
'Iai pe e loki 'oe kau faifekau hinga keke me'a atu ho ta'emahino 'o valelau, fekau'aki moe topic koia.

All your comments regarding faifekauhinga are IRRELEVANT to RETARDATION !!

Check your self, and conform with the topic !!!!!
Angry accusation will not heal nor prevent this ugly disease

Amore :))
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#33
Aug 16, 2012
 
Jaybaz Ngututamulea wrote:
Malo e lelei 'ae ta'ahine ko :: Hisa pehe kia Sipela mo Tukutukulaumea, lava pe ia ke toe liliu mai ho hingoa !
Loki hala moe topic hala 'eni ke si'i ha'u 'o kalou ai.
'Iai pe e loki 'oe kau faifekau hinga keke me'a atu ho ta'emahino 'o valelau, fekau'aki moe topic koia.
All your comments regarding faifekauhinga are IRRELEVANT to RETARDATION !!
Check your self, and conform with the topic !!!!!
Angry accusation will not heal nor prevent this ugly disease
Amore :))
Heyyyyy JJJJaaayyyybbbb what the matter mate? Anythings wrong with your pupuu between your shoulder???? hahahahaha.

Fiha ho no talaatu ki ho telinga nana, ke tuku ho'o 'oho kui holo hono fkmaau'i tokua pe ko e ngaahi hingoa 'e fiha 'oku commend 'i he loki ni, ka ko e sino pe 'e taha?? Ko e ha????'Oku ke mafasia 'i he ngaahi fakakaukau mo'oni pea to e fe'unga mo ho tau community 'i Tonga mo muli??'Ikai 'oku hanga 'e he ngaahi fakakaukau 'a e kau leka ni,'a Tukutukulaumea, Faiongoongo, Sipela, Judge 'o fk-ngalivale'i ho'o ki'i 'atamai pukupuku mo fasi'i fau hihihihihihi. Pea tuku 'aupito ho'o talamai 'oku IRRELEVANT, ko e vakai 'oku 'ikai te ke lava 'o tui ho sese hahahaha ka ke talanoa ki he Irrelevant. KO e fakakaukau 'oku relevant 'oku talanoa'i hono 'aonga mei he kuohili,'o a'u mai ki 'aneafi, pea mo e 'aho ni.

Kae talu ho'o hu mai tokua, mo e 'omi 'a e ngaahi topiki ke ako mei ai 'a e fanau mo e to'utupu,'a ia ko e kalasi kehekehe 'o e HINGA mo e RETARDED etc.... Na'e sio ho box ko ha kaveinga ia ke fafanga'aki 'a e fanau mo e hako tupu 'o e fonua??? LoL hahahahaha.

Pea tuku 'aupito ho'o tuli kimautolu mei he loki ni, he teu launga'i ko e kis Samiu Vaifulu ke fakainu 'aki ko e 'a e vai'ipulu hehehehehehe. Pea ka 'ikai pea mooo 'o heka he'ene 4wheel drive 'o haihaiane holo 'i he hala bypass 'i mailetaha.

Talanoa mai pe 'i he fanga ki'i me'a 'oku ke mahino'i. Ko e 'atunga ee ho'o kakapa ki he me'a 'oku taumama'o, te ke to mei ai, pea 'e toki 'alu atu 'a e fanga puaka 'o fakama'opo'opo mo tafi 'a pangai hihihihihihihihi lol.
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Aug 16, 2012
 
To be born that way, is NOT A CURSE... Lahi 'eku fanongo 'i he lau ko ia 'o pehe, koe hia ia 'a e matu'a 'oku fua e fanau,'o fanau'i ai kinautolu 'i he fa'ahiinga tu'unga pehe! But i don't ever believe that. I believe that any child born that way, koe misiona pe ia e 'o e tokotaha ko ia ke tupu pehe. And they're the most lucky ones, he 'oku 'ikai toe hela fakamaau'i e ni'ihi ia ko eni 'i he 'aho 'o e fakamaau. Koe fa'u ia 'a e taha kehe! And HE knows what he's doing. Things happens for reasons, ka ko kitautolu pe ia, lahitaha ki hotau kainga,'oku tau toki faka'uhinga'i kehekehe e fa'u ko ia. Some nau faka'uhinga'i mei he anga e ngaahi tala fakaholo ne nau fanonoga, some out of jealousy, pea some ia 'oku nau fu'u bad mouth 'aupito pe nautolu mo poto'i hono mio'i ha me'a pe ia 'oku lelei ke 'ata kovi.. To be born that way, is a privilege and a blessing.. Ko e ni'ihi eni 'oku nau fiema'u e tokanga makehe,'ofa makehe meia te kitautolu, but not our judgments on why they're born that way...
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#35
Aug 16, 2012
 
think outside the box mate!

they bring up "faifekau hinga" cos your the founder of that room too so as this lousy room hehehe
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Aug 16, 2012
 
Masi'i Jim, ko e ha kuo si'i fakatelefua'i pehe'i ai si'i Jaybaz Ngututamulea.

Mou kataki ko si'ono ngata'anga. KO e si'i laulaunoa pe, he mahalo na'e kole so ki ai ha ki'i talavou ta'u 50 hahahaha

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Aug 16, 2012
 
judge wrote:
think outside the box mate!
they bring up "faifekau hinga" cos your the founder of that room too so as this lousy room hehehe
Kiora tangata fk-maau !!!
U too like to follow my lousy rooms ?:):)

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Aug 16, 2012
 
Malo Fielelei !!!!!!:)'ae fk-matala 'oe poto moe 'ilo me'a,'oku 'aonga lahi kihe 'atamai vavalo ke ako pea tanaki mei ha taha 'oku toe mafao ange 'ene 'ilo ki ha fa'ahinga 'elia 'oe mo'ui.

'Oku 'ikai ma'u ha fk-matala pau ia ki he 'uhinga 'oe me'ani . Tau ui koe SPECIAL NEED CHILD pea kou tui ki ho fk-matala God created them in that way.
Kou fa'a pehe 'oku unfair on the child, ka kuo ke pehe koe special child he'i kai toe fk-maau'i ia he 'oku 'ikai hane kovi.
.'Aia 'oku 'ikai koe tukunga fk-saianisi ia .

'Ofa atu
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Aug 16, 2012
 
Fielelei wrote:
To be born that way, is NOT A CURSE... Lahi 'eku fanongo 'i he lau ko ia 'o pehe, koe hia ia 'a e matu'a 'oku fua e fanau,'o fanau'i ai kinautolu 'i he fa'ahiinga tu'unga pehe! But i don't ever believe that. I believe that any child born that way, koe misiona pe ia e 'o e tokotaha ko ia ke tupu pehe. And they're the most lucky ones, he 'oku 'ikai toe hela fakamaau'i e ni'ihi ia ko eni 'i he 'aho 'o e fakamaau. Koe fa'u ia 'a e taha kehe! And HE knows what he's doing. Things happens for reasons, ka ko kitautolu pe ia, lahitaha ki hotau kainga,'oku tau toki faka'uhinga'i kehekehe e fa'u ko ia. Some nau faka'uhinga'i mei he anga e ngaahi tala fakaholo ne nau fanonoga, some out of jealousy, pea some ia 'oku nau fu'u bad mouth 'aupito pe nautolu mo poto'i hono mio'i ha me'a pe ia 'oku lelei ke 'ata kovi.. To be born that way, is a privilege and a blessing.. Ko e ni'ihi eni 'oku nau fiema'u e tokanga makehe,'ofa makehe meia te kitautolu, but not our judgments on why they're born that way...
I agree. You live & learn. Nothing is suppose to be bad or be shameful upon a person unless we let it be that way.
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Aug 16, 2012
 
Oku ikai keu fuu ilo ki he mooni e curse, ka oku ou tui ai ko e hoko a e disability ha taha ko e ngaahi felaaki i he sino ie ko tautolu oku 46 pe chromosomes tonu ke tau mau, pea ka ohovale pe kuo fehaaki ia o 47 e chrom. pea fa'elei mai e pepe oku down syndrome etc.....

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Aug 16, 2012
 
Jaybaz Ngututamulea wrote:
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'Oku 'ikai ma'u ha fk-matala pau ia ki he 'uhinga 'oe me'ani . Tau ui koe SPECIAL NEED CHILD pea kou tui ki ho fk-matala God created them in that way.
And that's what I just said on my previous post. Every human being is God's Creation, whether is it retard or not. But we, their fwllow human beings, call them by different names and inappropriate too.
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Kou fa'a pehe 'oku unfair on the child, ka kuo ke pehe koe special child he'i kai toe fk-maau'i ia he 'oku 'ikai hane kovi.
.'Aia 'oku 'ikai koe tukunga fk-saianisi ia .
'Ofa atu
Jay,'ikai mahino ia pe 'e ta'efakamaau pe 'ikai. Me'a pe 'oku 'asi he folofola 'e fakamaau'i 'a e mo'ui mo e mate. Talamai ange pe 'oku mo'oni 'a e fo'i fakakaukau ko 'eni.

Ke talamai 'e koe he'ikai toe fakamaau'i ia he 'oku 'ikai ha'ane kovi. Ka 'oku talamai 'e he tohi matolu, ko e passport ki he hu ki Hevani ko e tali 'a Sisu ki loto ke tu'i mo fakamo'ui pea te TUI pea tafoki 'aupito 'o fakatomala mei he'ete kovi.

Tapu pe mo e kakai ko 'eni 'oku ke 'omai ke tau talanga ai,'e anga fefe ke mahino ki honau 'atamai, hufanga he fakatapu,'a Sisu mo 'ene tokateline 'okapau 'oku faingata'a ke mahino kiate kinautolu ha toe me'a kehe.

'E fefe ia? Tali'i mai masi'i e ki 'i fehu'i ko 'ena, I'm dying to see what you think of it.

And don't say 'oku mama'o 'eni mei he poini, because it doesn't. Ke pehe foki ko e topic ko 'eni ke ako mei ai 'a e fanau mo e to'utupu, pea kou tui ko e poini 'eni 'e lava ai ke ako ha ni'ihi.

Ka ke tali mai 'ena ka ta toki hoko atu, ka mau ki'i fakatau mautolu ha'amau ki'i takai na'a 'ohovale pe kuo fakateetee vaka e tou'a ia he kumete.

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