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XIENG THONG

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Oct 5, 2008
 
THAI PEOPLE CAME FROM THE AI-LAO.
The word Shan means mountain. There were people that migrated from the Ai Lao Shan (meaning Ai Lao mountain). These moutnain are very high in elevation. These mountain are located in China. That's why some people called the Lao, Laotian. The Tian at the end of Laotian are written for Lao Shan. Ai Lao Shan + Ai Lao Tiane. That's how the Tai Yai in the Shan state are called the Shan. The word Issan came from the sanscrit language. It means northeastern. This area became the northeastern territory of united Tai nation Thailand. Here is the direction in Sanscrit North:
Uttarena (Oudone)
South: Dakkhina (Thakhin)
East: Pura (Boora, Boorapha)
West: Pacchim
Northeast: Issan
Southeast: Ahkhane
Northwest: Phayub
Southwest: Horadee

TO BE COUNTINUE
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The people in the Shan state that migrated to Assam India are called Ahom. Tai ahom, from the word Ahom it evolve into Assom then Assam. These people migrate there and called the city Gasair. Gasair means river like the word NONG GASAIR SAN YAN (a lake river that never flows straight). Nong gasair sanyan is short to NONGSAIR. NONGSAIR is what the Ai Lao called the city at lake talee. The center of nanchao.
Syam in sanscrit means dark or referring to dark skin man. Syampobura means city of the dark or dark skin man. Syampobura is now called Wat Phu Champassak. In the Chenla empire of the Khmer the city was the court of the empire. Syampobura was the name of the ancient Khmer city. Before the Chenla fought each other broke into two kingdoms. The land Chenla and the water Chenla.
The word Funan is a Tai word. The word Fu in Tai language is now pronounced Pho or poo. The word Nan is a Tai word meaning city. It also change. The word Nan was change to Lan. The word Funan in means city of mountain in the Tai language. During that time the Tai kingdom was being control by the Chinese. That's when the Chinese historian came to the city called Banom Bura. Banombura is now called Nakorn Panom in Issan. The historian called this land, land of mountain. Banombura means city of mountain in khmer. Banom means hills or mountain bura means city. Funan means banombura (Nakorn Panom). The Chinese historians documented that in this kingdom are the people called Chenla. Later the capital was moved to the east side of the river. The capital of land Chenla was then called Kotabura (Srikotaboon) This is where the king died.
After the death of the Chenla king a monument was made. This monument is still in Laos called Pra Tad Sikotabong. This is the kingdom of funan (banombura). The word Fu means mountain and in Laos today is pronounced Phu or Poo. The word Nan. The kingdom of Nanchao means land of kings. It should have been spelled Nanjao instead. The word nan later changed to LAN. Out of this kingdom of Nanchao three other kingdom was born. The three kingdom are NANNA, NANJANG and NANPAENG. Since the word Nan changed to Lan the three kingdom was called LANNA , LANJANG (LANXANG), AND LANPAENG(AYUTTHAYA). LANXANG, LANNA and LANPAENG rulers are descent of the king of LANJAO (nanchao) name Pilaoko (Khun Borom). That's how the king Outhong of Ayutthaya, Fa Ngum of Lan Xang and king Mengrai of Lanna are related. By the blood of Borom king Pilaoko of Nanchao. These information I give you here are from the book of Khun Borom. The book of Khun Borom are in the museum in Thailand and Laos. In Thailand it is in Ramkhamhaeng museum and in Laos it is in the museum of Maha Sila Viravong. I don't think government official in both coutries will let anybody touch it though.
There are Tai places throughout Vietnam because those places used to be part of the kingdom of Lan Xang that the French gave to Vietnam. If you are talking about Dienbienfu, that place used to be part of Nanchaos expansion. During the time of Pilaoko, he expanded the kingdom to northern Thailand northern Laos, northern Vietnam and the Shan state area.
About the Tai migrating to Hainan and Taiwan, it was after the Chinese took the city pay-ngai from Ai-Lao. That's way before Nanchao. This is from the research of Doctor Sila Viravong. At that time from his study is when we first called ourselves Tai. Even though we called ourself Tai, we still called ourself Ai Lao. The word Tai means Lao and Lao means Tai. Ai Lao means the stars. Tai means spirit of the heaven as pronounced in modern day pee Thai. Tai means free. Tai means group of people, only when referring to a Tai group. Tai means the spirit of the high mountain of the Ai Lao. The spirit of Ai Lao Shan would also be called pee Tai because it is the spirit of the high plateau.
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Thai historians should be ashamed of themseleves.An example would be the kingdom of Sukothai. Thai hates Lao and say they did not come from the Lao. The word Lao is short for Ai Lao. The word Ai Lao means the star. The word Lao means star. The word Ai Lao means the star people and the word Lao means star people. The word Lao is now pronounced Dao. Like the word lin is now pronounce din for earth of soil. Thai say they don't speak Lao language and didn't come from Lao people. They say Sukothai is Thai derm meaning old Thai people. If sukothai is Thai derm and didn't come from Lao people then why did the kingdom of Sukothai all speak Lao like the Lao people today. Sukothai language 800 years ago spoke Lao. Thai said their language is not Lao and didn't come from Lao. World historians found proof that a Sukothai spoke Lao and used the Lao script. That is a embarrassment to all Thai history and historians. Thai said that Lanna belongs to Siamese and was a Thai kingdom. If it is why do the poeple speak Lao and eat sticky rice. Why is all the king from the Laojakarath all have the name Lao. All the king from Lao goak to Lao meng the father of Meng hai (meng rai) has the name Lao as in Lao Meng for the Lao king Meng. Now they had to rewrite their history of Lanna not because the Lao wanted them to, but international community. They now admit that Lanna was a Lao state. This information is from international Thai studies by Thai people. It was an embarrassment for their anceastor to make up history, now the children of the Thai have to correct it. This is why you can't trust Thai Historians. Siam told the west that all the people in Lan Xang area were Siamese. If it was all Siamese what happen to all the Lao. Did lao people get lost. They act like Lan Xang never existed. Lan Xang took half the territory of Ayuthaya from Outhong and he couldn't do anything about it. If you ask a Thai historian about history they tell you their side, but when you question their history they can't answer it because they made it up. Like Sukothai, it is like saying Japan is an American kingdom and American people. If Japan is an American kingdom then why are they all speaking Japanese. Thai say they didn't come from the Lao. They can't accept that the Lao are their ancestor and the Lao are the poeple they call Thai Derm. Now they change their history saying they came from the Ai Lao state. The say they came from the state of Thai Ai Lao and Nanchao. If they came from the Ai Lao then they came from the Lao. The word Lao is short for Ai Lao. What is the difference between the star people and star people. You see why you can't trust Thai sources. It is base on false history. About the word NAN that change to LAN. A Siamese would not know that word. The Siamese would not know what Poo or fu means because they call mountain khao not poo. Only people in Issan and Lanna would know cause they use that word too. Central Thai would not understand the Tai in Taiwan or Hainan because they don't talk like the central Thai. Only Issan and Lanna would understand it in Thailand cause they speak Lao. Thai can't even understand the way people speak in Chieng Mai.
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http://www.straitstimes.com/Asia/South-east%2 ...

This link use to work Im thinking the thai goverment took it off.It's about a well know thai scholar telling the truth about thai history.
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Dear mr xieng thong, your writing are to the point.I would like to know if you know anything about the chakri dynasty.
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What do want to know about them.May I ask what nationality are you.
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I am malaysian.My question is, are the Chakri Dynasty from royal bloodline?May I also ask what nationality are you.
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MICKEY MOUSE KING OF SIAM wrote:
I am malaysian.My question is, are the Chakri Dynasty from royal bloodline?May I also ask what nationality are you.
I am LAO.
Your question on the Chakri Dynasty if they have royalbloodline the answer is no!When the burmese sacked ayutthaya the second time they killed all the royal family but if I recall there was one distance cousin left that was a governer.But Phaya TakSin excuted him.Phaya Taksin was general who served for the king of siam who became king.He is Thai/chinese who has no royalblood what so ever.After Phaya Taksin died Phaya Chakri also no royalblood became king.And thats how the chakri dynasty started.The Rattanakosin period!
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MICKEY MOUSE KING OF SIAM
I accidently type your screen name on the wrong box.
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XIENG THONG wrote:
MICKEY MOUSE KING OF SIAM
I accidently type your screen name on the wrong box.
You were trying to start your writing with my name first but you but it in the wrong box.I do that sometimes.Thank you on this information about the chakri dynasty.
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MICKEY MOUSE KING OF SIAM wrote:
<quoted text>You were trying to start your writing with my name first but you but it in the wrong box.I do that sometimes.Thank you on this information about the chakri dynasty.
MICKEY MOUSE KING OF SIAM IS A FUNNY SCREEN NAME.
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1287atz watch this if you can.I dont no if thailand has a banned on youtube still in thailand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
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1287atz try this link once you get in press play. on the video.You might able to by pass the banned on youtube in thailand.If you can watch it you will understand what I was talking about.Lao can read,write and understand thai.But thai cant understand lao unless they learn it.

http://laovoices.com/2007/11/26/laos-and-thai...
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Oct 6, 2008
 
XIENG THONG wrote:
With Lao I don't think we do have any conflict.
This is from Thai side but I don't know from Lao what are they thinking. Thai thinking we are the brothers and not sure are you the same.
By the way I saw Thai support many to Lao e.g. built the bridge , the Princess built the school.
What I knew we are from the same root and split to each side of Khong river. I still thinking Lao is friends but if you think not is very sad.
Let me know what Lao feeling to Thai.
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With Lao I don't think we do have any conflict.
This is from Thai side but I don't know from Lao what are they thinking. Thai thinking we are the brothers and not sure are you the same.
By the way I saw Thai support many to Lao e.g. built the bridge , the Princess built the school.
What I knew we are from the same root and split to each side of Khong river. I still thinking Lao is friends but if you think not is very sad.
Let me know what Lao feeling to Thai.
Were you able to watch the video.
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<quoted text>Were you able to watch the video.
I can open the page but can not watch the VDO.

It's not block from the Thai gov.But block from the company where I work.
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I can open the page but can not watch the VDO.
It's not block from the Thai gov.But block from the company where I work.
If you have a PC at home watch it and let me know what you think.
Do you like guns.
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XIENG THONG wrote:
<quoted text>If you have a PC at home watch it and let me know what you think.
Do you like guns.
Of cause I went out to shooting at my weekend.
In Thailand people allow to have with license and many million of them have in in hand.
Let say if the enemy save from troops ammunition there are next from the people ready to welcome them as second choice.

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