Demallu starting in Karnataka

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F the 13 amendment

Montclair, NJ

#1 Mar 27, 2012
http://www.newkerala.com/news/2011/worldnews-...

You cant take the terror out of a tamil.
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#2 Mar 27, 2012
F the 13 amendment wrote:
http://www.newkerala.com/news/ 2011/worldnews-178548.html
You cant take the terror out of a tamil.
May be the Sinhalese JVP. The LTTE is not interested in that part of Karnataka. Itis southern Karnataka that has a lot of Tamil influence with many ethnic Tamil majority areas like Kolar etc.
PROUD KANNADIGA

United States

#3 Mar 28, 2012
Siva Sankaran wrote:
<quoted text>May be the Sinhalese JVP. The LTTE is not interested in that part of Karnataka. Itis southern Karnataka that has a lot of Tamil influence with many ethnic Tamil majority areas like Kolar etc.
OOH,Rama ninna ooru ravudhu?
Anna, nannanu maathu kelu.
Kolar is a kannada majority area.Tamils are not majority there except in k.g.f.Even telegudus are more than tamils.Tamils are not ethnic in kolar.they were brought by british to work in gold mines..
Check maadu..
Punc

Richmond Hill, Canada

#4 Mar 28, 2012
PROUD KANNADIGA wrote:
<quoted text>
OOH,Rama ninna ooru ravudhu?
Anna, nannanu maathu kelu.
Kolar is a kannada majority area.Tamils are not majority there except in k.g.f.Even telegudus are more than tamils.Tamils are not ethnic in kolar.they were brought by british to work in gold mines..
Check maadu..
tamules are native only in the toilettes. pow.
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#5 Mar 28, 2012
PROUD KANNADIGA wrote:
<quoted text>
OOH,Rama ninna ooru ravudhu?
Anna, nannanu maathu kelu.
Kolar is a kannada majority area.Tamils are not majority there except in k.g.f.Even telegudus are more than tamils.Tamils are not ethnic in kolar.they were brought by british to work in gold mines..
Check maadu..
Speak to me in a languge I can understand not that gutter dervative of Tamil
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#6 Mar 28, 2012
The States’ Reorganisation in 1956 led to the marginalisation of Tamils in the areas, which were acceded to from the erstwhile Madras Presidency to the new-found Greater Mysore. The city of Bangalore, which itself was founded.... in 1537, was predominantly Tamil in its demographic composition. Kollegal, which was largely Tamil, was acceded to Greater Mysore, as Chittoor district was annexed to Andhra Pradesh and the huge Idikki district to Kerala. Though asked whether they wanted the Kolar Gold Fields to go with the diminished Madras State when the States were being reorganised, the headless leaders among the KGF Tamils preferred to remain with the Greater Mysore. The plight of the KGF Tamils has its fountainhead here.
With the fond hopes of carving out a fair deal for themselves, the Tamils in Karnataka contributed their mite to build up the new State. Their share in turning Bangalore into a blooming modern city is quite big.
contd
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#7 Mar 28, 2012
Kannadigas in Minority
The Commission for linguistic Minorities constituted after the States’ Reorganisation was meant also to take care of the interests of the of the Tamils in the traditionally Tamil areas which gradually became either colonised by the Kannadigas and Telugus or were unjustly acceded to the new-found State of New Mysore. The Dravidian and "Indian" pipe dreams of Tamil Nadu leaders so blatantly betrayed the Tamils.
It was merely ritualistic window dressing for the Commissioner for Linguistic Minorities to submit a drab and farce annual report to the President of India on the question of protection of the linguistic minorities in Karnataka. It was a commission that seldom lived up to our expectation. The whole exercise proved to be sham when the Kannada Chaluvali Movement rose particularly in the capital Bangalore.
With Kolar, Bellary and Chitradurga districts with major chunks of Telugu population; Kolar Gold Fields, Bangalore, Bhadravati and Kollegal being predominantly Tamil; Belgaum, Nippani, Bidar going largely Marathi-speaking; the district of North Canara speaking Konkani; South Canara district being the traditional homeland of Tulus; Kodagu being a land with its own language, history and culture; and the sizeable spread over of the Urdu speaking population, the actual Kannadiga population is just around 37 per cent in the State.
Suppressed Fact
This demographic anachronism made the minority Kannadigas to live with a hazy majority complex. It caused the Kannada psyche to go aggressively chauvinistic in its expression, rather than evolving into the linguistic national or nationality consciousness seeking the right of self-determination.
Other non-Kannadigas often raise a question: "Why Tamils alone are being targeted by the Kannadigas?"
They have to understand the historic backdrop of the anti-Tamil preoccupation of the Kannada Chaluvali movement.
The districts of Kolar, Bangalore, Mysore, parts of Mandya and Tumkur formed the kingdom of the Gangas. It was known as Old Mysore after the States were reorganised.
Though the Ganganadu was often ruled by non-Tamils, the mainstay of its population remained Tamil; and they were called as Thigilaru by the Kannadigas. Ganganadu was the traditional homeland of the Thigilar.
This historical fact was sought to be suppressed by the large influx of the Telugu-speaking Reddies from the Ceded Districts of the former Madras Presidency for over a century. With the expansion of Bangalore as the capital of the New Karnataka and the formation of the Bangalore Development Authority, the naive and boorish Thigilars' virgin lands were taken over by the State. Reddy colonisers sought to usurp what was left out with them.
The Reddy colonisers in the Old Mysore region acquired aggressive overtones through their initiation into the Kannada Chaluvali ideology. Founded by theTelugu Brahmanical interests as a reaction to the virulent anti-Brahman politics of the neighbouring Tamilnadu, the chauvinist orientation of the Karnataka politics came as a boon to the land and power hungry Reddy usurpers.
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Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#8 Mar 28, 2012
Film based Tamil Politics

Modelled on the film-based Dravidian politics, which the Telugus and other non-Tamils in the Tamil country cultivated, the Chaluvali politics chose to nurse a similar film-based cult in the thespian Rajkumar, though he is of Tamil-Telugu parentage. Thus grew the genie. So, Tamils were meticulously targeted.

Their right to learn their mother tongue was gradually and systematically marginalised. Job opportunities to them were almost brought to a naught. The Gokak Report and the anti-Tamil riots that followed in 1982 was its logical tide.

But the Karnataka Tamils seldom resisted the anti-Tamil goblin, thinking that things will gradually settle to find reason. The treacherous leadership of the Dravidian parties were the first cause for the meek submission of the Karnataka Tamils before the aggressive overtones and gestures of the Chaluvali politics. The reason was that the leadership of the Dravidian parties were invariably non-Tamil, though their cadres and sympathisers were Tamils.

Then came the interim order of the Cauvery Water Tribunal in 1991 and the well-planned out State violence unleashed by the very Chief Minister of Karnataka, Mr. S. Bangarappa. His mute genocide took the toll of around 1,000 poor and wretched Tamils, and caused an exodus of over 1½ lakh Karnataka Tamils to Tamilnadu. The loss to their property was worth hundred of crores.

Enslaved Tamil Nation

Karnataka Tamils under the grip of the Dravidian ideology stood stunned, benumbed and dismayed over the turn of events over the last three decades. They could not find a way out of the drifting sands. Events gradually led them to look at the Dravidian tale of Tamil-Kannada natal ties with mistrust and discover that it suits only the non-Tamils to yoke the Tamils in Tamilnadu. They realised that Tamilnadu has let them down.

How could an enslaved nation redeem its kinsmen elsewhere? They realised that the Dravidian ideology was chosen and nursed by a Malayali T. M. Nair and a virulently Telugu Pitty Thyagaraja Chetty of the former Justice Party, and fostered by E. V. Ramasamy Naicker (a Kannadiga), C. N. Annadurai and M. Karunanidhi,(both Telugus), M. G. Ramachandran (a Malayali) and Jayalalitha (a Kannada Brahman on her mother's side), Tamils have thus lost their very linguistic Tamil national identity through the Dravidian trap.

On the contrary, Kannada, Telugu and Malayali ethnic consciousness grew strong with the formation of the new States of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Kerala.

The Tamil presence in Southern Karnataka has been there since the 10Th centuryr. Many of these Kannda extremists called the Kannda Chaluvaliga are now seeking torewirte history. These Kannadigas are well noted in the south to be liguistic extremists who do not tolerate other minorities . Eg Marathi, Tamil,Konkani, Malayalam and even the native Tulu from Tulu Nadu. They are very similar to the Sinhalese. A Dravidian people who try to deny their ancient Tamil/Dravidian origins
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#9 Mar 28, 2012
Alien Invasion

The alienation of Tamils in Karnataka has indeed a blessing in disguise, as their intellect could rediscover the fallen Tamil from the debris of their history. Kannadigas have helped the Karnataka Tamils to open their eyes. What was the cause for the fragmentation of the Tamils into irreconcilable castes and the caste-based politics that taunt the Tamil country? What distorted the Tamils' national consciousness?

A search into these domains taught that the alien invasions alone were the actual and primary cause for the peoples world over, and their becoming the oppressed. If so, whose invasions led to the fall and enslavement of the Tamils?

Were they the so called "Aryan" invasions that came through the Khyber and Bolan passes as the European historiography had concocted? The probe began. Kannadigas indeed stand out as teachers to Tamils, by negative examples.

We find that most of the invasions on the Tamil country were from Karnataka. It began with the Kalabhra invasions around 250 A. D., and their pillage over the Tamil country for over three centuries. Then came the Chlaukya, Hoysala, and Vijayanagara Nayakka invasions on the Tamil land. The Telugu Pallavas ruled over the Tamils after the Kalabhras.

Then came the question of studying the history of those alien invaders. We find in the Sangam Tamil Classics frequent references to a semi-barbarian and ferocious stock of people who roamed around beyond the Vénkadam (Thirupathi) hills.

They served as mercenaries to many of the ancient States, particularly the Mauryas. They were called Vadugar in Tamil classics. These Vadugar got split into Eastern Vadugar and Western Vadugar, as was the case with the German barbarians breaking up into Eastern and Western Goths. The Eastern Vadugar gradually became Telugus. The Western Vadugar, who were called as Kósar in the Sangam literature, became the Kannadigas. The northern fraction of these Kósar were called as Mārattar; and they became the Marathis later. The northern segment of the Telugu Vadugar in Kalinga broke into Oddars or Oriyas.

The first ever territory that the Kósar or the Kannada Vadugar occupied in the former Chera country was the Tulunādu, as the Tamil literary evidences tell. Then they came down to the present Mysore, then called as Erumainādu. It was thus called as it was conquered by a Vadugan called Erumai. He participated in the Thalaiyālankānam battle against Pandyan Nedunchezhiyan of the Sangam Age.

The successive invasions of these Vadugar barbarians and their overrunning the Chera, Chola and Pandya empires of the antiquity was the cause for the fall of the Tamils and their subjugation and classification into low class aborigines.

Brahmanism, as an apartheid way of life, in fact, had its origin only in the Chera country (Kerala) through the legendary person in Parasurāma.

Whereas the Aryan concept had its root in the north.

The British colonial intellect confused Brahmanism with Aryanism, and had imposed a false historiography by branding Brahmanism as an import from the north. Though born down the extreme south in the Chera country, Brahmanism was carried into the Chola and Pandya countries only through the Kannada and Telugu (or the Vadugar) Brahmans.

Manu Smruti, which was written in Karnataka, was adopted as the social code by the court of Pulikesi II, the Chalukya monarch. The Chalukyan epigraphical eulogies of mānavakula or Mānava Dharma would show it. It was the Vadugar colonisers who imposed birth-based caste discriminations and untouchability on the Tamils in the Chola and Pandya States.

These findings helped the enlightened among the Karnataka Tamils to disown and discredit the Dravidian ideology and rediscover their Tamil identity. So the beacon is now in the hands of the Karnataka Tamils.
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#10 Mar 28, 2012
Rajkumar not Kannadiga

Veerappan's initiation into Tamils' cause was during the 1991 anti-Tamil carnage in Karnataka. He was a witness to the Kannada chauvinist outrage on the Tamils, and was therefore drawn into the fray to defend the Tamils in the border district of Chamarajanagar. It had left a deep scar in his mind and had in fact was troubling him within. So he chose to avenge for the violent sufferings and humiliations which the Karnataka Tamils were subjected to in 1991.

The irony is that Veerappan is a Karnataka Tamil. He was born at Gopinaththam that falls within 10 kilometers west of river Pālāru, a tributory of Cauvery, that marks the border delineating Karnataka and Tamilnadu. Gopinaththam is right inside Karnataka after the Tamil-speaking Kollegal was annexed to it during States' reorganisation. Whereas, the thespian Rajkumar's father was from Singānallur which next to the Coimbatore Town on the Coimbatore-Sulur Road. He was a Telugu speaking Idiga. His mother was Lakshmiamma, a Tamil. More so, the term Idiga was a Telugu derivative of the name Eezhavar, which means those who were originally from Eelam or the island of Sri Lanka. Such a person could later become the icon of Kannada chauvinism in Karnataka!

The gloom of the Dravidian dupe fades out while the Tamil seeks the right of self-determination. Karnataka Tamils stand out as the beacon light.

The social environment that drove Veerappan into the forests as a sandalwood smuggler or poacher had lit in him the fiery fire of Tamil nationalism, as he had witnessed the State sponsored anti-Tamil violence for ethnic cleansing
Punc

Ottawa, Canada

#11 Mar 28, 2012
Siva Sankaran wrote:
Alien Invasion
The alienation of Tamils in Karnataka has indeed a blessing in disguise, as their intellect could rediscover the fallen Tamil from the debris of their history.
I see this is why we cant find any demalu history (physical evidance besides a few kovills). Not because killer demalu have no history in lanks. ROFL... go read more demala.nut. LMAO pakaya.
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#12 Mar 28, 2012
Punc wrote:
<quoted text>
I see this is why we cant find any demalu history (physical evidance besides a few kovills). Not because killer demalu have no history in lanks. ROFL... go read more demala.nut. LMAO pakaya.
Yes as the Tamils lives along the coast the Portuguese the Ditch and now the Sinhalese are very busy destorying every evidence of their history. Eg burinng og temples palcacescaliming al lanceint Tamil Buddhist structures as Sinhalese burying BUddah statues in the North East. hinding encient Tamil scripts and burning the Jaffna library building a higway over the palace the kings of Jaffna.
Yeh history of 70% of the Sinhalee and 90% of the Thulukkans begins in the slums of Tamil Nadu. the rst in the junglesof Orissa and the sands of Arabia.
Punc

Ottawa, Canada

#13 Mar 28, 2012
Siva Sankaran wrote:
<quoted text>Yes as the Tamils lives along the coast the Portuguese the Ditch and now the Sinhalese are very busy destorying every evidence of their history. Eg burinng og temples palcacescaliming al lanceint Tamil Buddhist structures as Sinhalese burying BUddah statues in the North East. hinding encient Tamil scripts and burning the Jaffna library building a higway over the palace the kings of Jaffna.
Yeh history of 70% of the Sinhalee and 90% of the Thulukkans begins in the slums of Tamil Nadu. the rst in the junglesof Orissa and the sands of Arabia.
so demalu are weak ponnayo? to let the porks and chinglau fack you up the arse for generations when you kari ballo are 70 million just next door? wow... ponna tribe.
Siva Sankaran

Rosanna, Australia

#14 Mar 28, 2012
Punc wrote:
<quoted text>
so demalu are weak ponnayo? to let the porks and chinglau fack you up the arse for generations when you kari ballo are 70 million just next door? wow... ponna tribe.
Yes they have already to arse fack the Thullkans amongst the so called demalu. The converted Indian Tamil Dalits. That is why you,Rinaz,Sevakam,so called Tamils and others are screaming here in agony and pain.
Punc

Ottawa, Canada

#15 Mar 28, 2012
Siva Sankaran wrote:
<quoted text>Yes they have already to arse fack the Thullkans amongst the so called demalu. The converted Indian Tamil Dalits. That is why you,Rinaz,Sevakam,so called Tamils and others are screaming here in agony and pain.
what pain para demala, we didnt get hit by MBRL fire. ROFL

Kaboom kabbom.. run paraya run!
Anonymous

United States

#16 Mar 30, 2012
Siva Sankaran wrote:
The States’ Reorganisation in 1956 led to the marginalisation of Tamils in the areas, which were acceded to from the erstwhile Madras Presidency to the new-found Greater Mysore. The city of Bangalore, which itself was founded.... in 1537, was predominantly Tamil in its demographic composition. Kollegal, which was largely Tamil, was acceded to Greater Mysore, as Chittoor district was annexed to Andhra Pradesh and the huge Idikki district to Kerala. Though asked whether they wanted the Kolar Gold Fields to go with the diminished Madras State when the States were being reorganised, the headless leaders among the KGF Tamils preferred to remain with the Greater Mysore. The plight of the KGF Tamils has its fountainhead here.
With the fond hopes of carving out a fair deal for themselves, the Tamils in Karnataka contributed their mite to build up the new State. Their share in turning Bangalore into a blooming modern city is quite big.
contd
Mr.sarma.
Tamils are not an ethnic cmnty in idukki also.
They are mostly frm theni,madurai and dindigul areas and settled in idukki as tea plantation workers just one or two centuries ago.tamils are only 30% in idukki dist.
Anonymous

United States

#17 Mar 30, 2012
Siva Sankaran wrote:
<quoted text>Speak to me in a languge I can understand not that gutter dervative of Tamil
Gutter derivative of tamil is telegu,hindi,english mixed slum 'madras tamil'.
Real classical tamil words are now seen only in malayalam,not chennai tamil.
Kannada is more close to present day malayalam and hindi than modern tamil words.
Anonymous

United States

#18 Mar 30, 2012
How said that all kannadakarans are racists??
Remember, in banglore city 45% of the populations are tamils,malayalis,telegus&n orth indians.
Don't spread lie.
I am in banglore right now in a tamil majority suburb.
Anonymous

United States

#19 Mar 30, 2012
Sorry, who said...
Punc

Ottawa, Canada

#20 Mar 30, 2012
PROUD MALAYALI wrote:
Sorry, who said...
PROUD MALAYALI hutthige putha, why dont you fack off to malayalam forum? get lost ponna malayali balla.

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