Being gay not a sin, acting on gay desires is

[babycrickette]

puglife wrote:

The "Gay Pagan" is absolutely right. Maybe your God discriminates and has hatred towards people..but mine does not. He loves all his children. If he can forgive child molesters, rapists and murderers then by golly..I KNOW he can forgive me for being a homo!!

I am confused, are you conceding that being a homo is something to be forgiven?
I don't concede that. Not being homosexual myself, I have spent years of my life defending homosexuals and their freedoms and feel that no forgiveness is necessary. You are who you are and God(s), whoever he or she or it or they may be, loves all who choose to follow their heart.

Peace out.
p.s. I've read your other posts, this is no criticism, just conversation ...=)

[jelly]

Joe Padre wrote:

Shouldn't people enjoy the gift of sexuality God gave them? He wouldn't have given it to us if he didn't mean for us to enjoy and use it. Why did he make human males and females feel good no matter what hole it is?
I am Bi, and love to both give and receive. It fulfills the sexuality that God gave me.

you are right, God did give us sexuality to enjoy with our spouses, but like many other things God has given us we have perverted them for our own lusts which are not acceptable according to the word of God or his purpose.

[2Day]

Arrow Smith wrote:

Read you idiot read before its too late. The the sins are in the BIBLE. Stop acting like a moron and pretending to be stupid. It does not become you. Shut the Hell up because that is your destiny. Hell.

Exactly. People spark conversation about random nonsense, but when it comes to the Bible, very few people take responsibility for their actions when those actions are condemned in the Bible for being sins, whether it's homosexuality or anything else.

Homosexuality is a sin. That is all.

[jelly]

puglife wrote:

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Dont worrys mate. This is the only real comeback bible thumpers have to retaliate when they know they've "been owned". Somehow "murder" is in the same line as being Gay. Soon someone will put Gay and beastiality in the same sentence. You'll see. HAHAHA. Jelly...put your nose back in the "good book" and allow the rest of us in the real world to live and enjoy it.

if you would have read the post i was answering, you would have known i was making fun of him for saying it's alright to be a murderer. i was not comparing the two.

[jelly]

Jales wrote:

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I got this one. It's called critical thinking.
It hurts me when other people steal from me, so I don't steal.
It is not fair to deny another human being life, so I don't murder. Not to mention I don't want to be murdered.
I don't cheat on my husband because 1. I love him and do not wish to hurt him and 2. why get sex from someone else when I can get it at home from someone who loves me..it's illogical.
You are free to do whatever you want and I am free to do whatever I want as long as neither of us hurt someone else. It's no one else's business. If you don't like green tea, how does it harm you if I drink it?
See, we don't need people TELLING us what's right or threatening us with a "hell" to make us do what's right. We do it because it's human decency.

again, i'm not referring to all people, just those who claim to be christians and live according to the bible. but then try to justify their sins any way they can. if the shoe fits, wear it.

[puglife]

Jales wrote:

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I got this one. It's called critical thinking.
It hurts me when other people steal from me, so I don't steal.
It is not fair to deny another human being life, so I don't murder. Not to mention I don't want to be murdered.
I don't cheat on my husband because 1. I love him and do not wish to hurt him and 2. why get sex from someone else when I can get it at home from someone who loves me..it's illogical.
You are free to do whatever you want and I am free to do whatever I want as long as neither of us hurt someone else. It's no one else's business. If you don't like green tea, how does it harm you if I drink it?
See, we don't need people TELLING us what's right or threatening us with a "hell" to make us do what's right. We do it because it's human decency.

OMG..Jales..you got much love from the "Pug". I think I can leave this conversation now because you said it well my friend. Thank you Thank you Thank you!! Ya'll have a great night. Even Jelly! And remember to live the good life, the great life, the "puglife".

[2Day]

Jales wrote:

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I got this one. It's called critical thinking.
It hurts me when other people steal from me, so I don't steal.
It is not fair to deny another human being life, so I don't murder. Not to mention I don't want to be murdered.
I don't cheat on my husband because 1. I love him and do not wish to hurt him and 2. why get sex from someone else when I can get it at home from someone who loves me..it's illogical.
You are free to do whatever you want and I am free to do whatever I want as long as neither of us hurt someone else. It's no one else's business. If you don't like green tea, how does it harm you if I drink it?
See, we don't need people TELLING us what's right or threatening us with a "hell" to make us do what's right. We do it because it's human decency.

It's NOT people "telling" you what is right and "threatening you with hell". The information about what is sinful and what is righteous is found in the Bible, and if you don't follow what is righteous according the Bible, hell isn't a threat, it's a promise.

[jelly]

SanctimoniousWordsHurt wrote:

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..but he does need YOUR royal PIA help, is that right? You are the best qualified to judge whether YOUR God or MY God or any other persons God needs help or not? If there is a God, then if we aren't here to HELP..why the heck are we here anyway? Fun? To experience only the goodness of the worls? If there was no badness would there even be any good? How would we know?
Let me tell, you a thing or two sugahpiah...I would never have made it to my ripe old age unless MY GOD was ther. My God/higherpower/energy force.(insert your choice) has no name, but I can tell you that I'm never alone. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

no he doesn't need me, but he has called me to preach his gospel that those that are lost and dying in their sins (( worshiping false gods )) may be saved by knowing the one true God, Jesus Christ. there is no other name under heaven that a man may be saved by. as for all the other gods, good luck.

[puglife]

babycrickette wrote:

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I am confused, are you conceding that being a homo is something to be forgiven?
I don't concede that. Not being homosexual myself, I have spent years of my life defending homosexuals and their freedoms and feel that no forgiveness is necessary. You are who you are and God(s), whoever he or she or it or they may be, loves all who choose to follow their heart.
Peace out.
p.s. I've read your other posts, this is no criticism, just conversation ...=)

No criticism taken. Just to clear your confustion..NO I do NOT believe that being gay is something that needs to be forgiven. God made me who I am. Dimples and all. I'm not committing a sin for being gay. I hope I cleared this up. And thank you for your support to the gay community!

[jelly]

all i'm saying is if you wanna be gay, then that's your choice. but if you claim to be a christian and follow Christ, this choice is unexceptable not according to me, but according to God and his holy bible. have a great night and God bless.

[Jales]

2Day wrote:

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Exactly. People spark conversation about random nonsense, but when it comes to the Bible, very few people take responsibility for their actions when those actions are condemned in the Bible for being sins, whether it's homosexuality or anything else.
Homosexuality is a sin. That is all.

Unless you don't believe in the bible, as many folks don't. We don't CARE about what's in the bible. It's hard to scare us with something we don't care about.

[jelly]

Jales wrote:

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I got this one. It's called critical thinking.
It hurts me when other people steal from me, so I don't steal.
It is not fair to deny another human being life, so I don't murder. Not to mention I don't want to be murdered.
I don't cheat on my husband because 1. I love him and do not wish to hurt him and 2. why get sex from someone else when I can get it at home from someone who loves me..it's illogical.
You are free to do whatever you want and I am free to do whatever I want as long as neither of us hurt someone else. It's no one else's business. If you don't like green tea, how does it harm you if I drink it?
See, we don't need people TELLING us what's right or threatening us with a "hell" to make us do what's right. We do it because it's human decency.

that is very touching that you feel this way. but i have to ask, have you ever lied, cheated, or stole anything in your life? and if you say you haven't, then you just lied and you need forgiveness and you cannot pay the price of your sin. only Christ can no matter how many good things you do, one sin destroys it all.

[2Day]

Jales wrote:

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Unless you don't believe in the bible, as many folks don't. We don't CARE about what's in the bible. It's hard to scare us with something we don't care about.

Whether or not you care is irrelevant. Any information listed in the Bible as being sinful stands whether you adhere to it or not.

[nhjeff]

puglife wrote:

The "Gay Pagan" is absolutely right. Maybe your God discriminates and has hatred towards people..but mine does not. He loves all his children. If he can forgive child molesters, rapists and murderers then by golly..I KNOW he can forgive me for being a homo!!

There is nothing to be forgiven, is there?

[2Day]

Jales wrote:

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Unless you don't believe in the bible, as many folks don't. We don't CARE about what's in the bible. It's hard to scare us with something we don't care about.

Actually, it is a shame if you don't care, but the words of the Bible will ALWAYS remain as life's instructions on how to live, whether you follow the instructions provided or not.

[nhjeff]

jelly wrote:

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just wondering what you base your morals on

I generally find that people who need to refer to someone or something else to tell right from wrong make very poor choices.

[Gryph]

Jales wrote:

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Actually, since I'm not christian, you're rules don't apply to me. Would you like it if I tried to make you live by my rules?

Of course they wouldn't. They would cry, pout, moan, bitch and complain.

[Jales]

2Day wrote:

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Actually, it is a shame if you don't care, but the words of the Bible will ALWAYS remain as life's instructions on how to live, whether you follow the instructions provided or not.

But they don't apply to me. I don't need the bible to give me instructions, I have a brain.

[Gryph]

jelly wrote:

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sure we can all belive what we want but there is only ONE TRUTH
and I have something to base mine on (Bible) you dont

It maybe truth to you, but it's not anywhere close to being truth to me.

[Blond Prince]

If homosexuality is a sin then heterosexuality like Seafood, is an abomination to God.

Bigots have been losing for years, and always will because bigots eat pie.

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