Listen to me you whites in Africa, you are not Africans, you hear me?

Posted in the South Africa Forum

Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#1 Jan 4, 2013
You are not Africans. There is such a thing as white Africans and we Africans don't refer to ourselves as black people. That is a color classification conceived by you horrible people, it has nothing to do with us. we are not black, we are Africans just as Asians are not yellow, they are Asians. You people are therefore not Africans.
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#2 Jan 4, 2013
there is no such a thing as a white african, rather.
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#3 Jan 4, 2013
Why don't your kin in Asia claim to be white Asians, and yet you claim to be white Africans?

Since: Dec 08

Dubai, UAE

#4 Jan 4, 2013
There is a difference between nationality and race, Ethio. I have a friend from the States. She is born and bred in San Francisco, as are her parents and their parents. She has a kid, also born in her home town. That's four generations American right there. But she is of Chinese decent. While she is proud of her ancestry, she has never been to China, she can't speak the language and has never thought about living anywhere but her home country, America. Ask her, she'll say she is American. Is she not entitled to do so?
In the same country, there are loads of people who consider themselves American. Many of them have never stepped a foot out of the country. They're born there, like their parents, grandparents and great-grandparents. Should they not be allowed to call themselves American because they are descendants of Africa? If you asked them, they'd tell you they are American, and proud to be American.
The fact is, the colour of your skin has nothing to do with being American. It's either your home or it's not. The same is true of any country because race has nothing to do with nationality.
You seem to be offended by the term "black". But, friend, it's just a word, just a classification as you say. I've yet to come across a "white" person who is offended by being called one. So what's with your sensitivity?
Yes, were all Africans - you're absolutely right. But we don't all look the same, and so classifications exist. Compare the Egyptians to the Khoisan. What about the Ethiopians with the Nigerians? As an African, you'd be able to distinguish between these people. Africa is huge, and home to so many different people, cultures, foods and languages. So what if some skin colour contrast with others. We're all here, living, working and developing out home. That's a fact!
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#5 Jan 4, 2013
Hare wrote:
There is a difference between nationality and race, Ethio. I have a friend from the States. She is born and bred in San Francisco, as are her parents and their parents. She has a kid, also born in her home town. That's four generations American right there. But she is of Chinese decent. While she is proud of her ancestry, she has never been to China, she can't speak the language and has never thought about living anywhere but her home country, America. Ask her, she'll say she is American. Is she not entitled to do so?
In the same country, there are loads of people who consider themselves American. Many of them have never stepped a foot out of the country. They're born there, like their parents, grandparents and great-grandparents. Should they not be allowed to call themselves American because they are descendants of Africa? If you asked them, they'd tell you they are American, and proud to be American.
The fact is, the colour of your skin has nothing to do with being American. It's either your home or it's not. The same is true of any country because race has nothing to do with nationality.
You seem to be offended by the term "black". But, friend, it's just a word, just a classification as you say. I've yet to come across a "white" person who is offended by being called one. So what's with your sensitivity?
Yes, were all Africans - you're absolutely right. But we don't all look the same, and so classifications exist. Compare the Egyptians to the Khoisan. What about the Ethiopians with the Nigerians? As an African, you'd be able to distinguish between these people. Africa is huge, and home to so many different people, cultures, foods and languages. So what if some skin colour contrast with others. We're all here, living, working and developing out home. That's a fact!
I do not care how europids refer to us. We do not refer to ourselves blacks. We are not black, we are Africans. You have yet to come across a white person who is offended by being called white because they conceived of that classification for themselves.

Yes, Africa is huge, with different and many people. But that doesn't change the fact afrikaners and other white minorities are NOT Africans. They are Europids living in Africa. I am not bothered by them refering to themselves as South Africans, Namibians, Kenyans et cetera (Nationality), but they should not refer to themselves as Africans.
mlungu

UK

#6 Jan 5, 2013
You are a narrow minded msunu
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#7 Jan 5, 2013
mlungu wrote:
You are a narrow minded msunu
I don't think so, you harlot spawn.

Since: Dec 08

Dubai, UAE

#8 Jan 6, 2013
mlungu wrote:
You are a narrow minded msunu
You're right, he certainly seems so. This is an embarrassment!

Since: Dec 08

Dubai, UAE

#9 Jan 6, 2013
Ethio wrote:
<quoted text> I don't think so, you harlot spawn.
Why so abusive? What's up with that?! This isn't a hate space - it' a forum for people to communicate and share.

You seem more interested in disliking "Europeans" than your being labelled black. If you don't like white people, why aren't you back home in Africa? What are you doing in a white man's land?

Perhaps that's your problem; you need to go home. Perhaps you'd have better patience, compassion and understanding if you were more in tune to Africa. The true Africans are gentle-hearted, good people!
Ethio

South Africa

#10 Jan 6, 2013
Hare wrote:
<quoted text>
Why so abusive? What's up with that?! This isn't a hate space - it' a forum for people to communicate and share.
You seem more interested in disliking "Europeans" than your being labelled black. If you don't like white people, why aren't you back home in Africa? What are you doing in a white man's land?
Perhaps that's your problem; you need to go home. Perhaps you'd have better patience, compassion and understanding if you were more in tune to Africa. The true Africans are gentle-hearted, good people!
I am telling you that the white minorities in South Africa and else where on the continent are not Africans. This is not an opinion it is a fact that you need to get used to.

America is not a white man's land. It was stolen from from native americans. South Africa nearly became a statistic like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, America, Paraguay, Argentia and many other countries that were stolen from the indigenous people. The African diaspora played a crucial role in developing and building the aforementiond stolen countries.

The true Africans know your track record. We know the disgusting atrocities you have committed throughout history, and we do not want you people and your disgusting Afrikaner kindred claiming African identity. The boer, Afrikaners or whatever they call themselves these days and other white minorities are not Africans.
Ethio

South Africa

#11 Jan 6, 2013
Hare wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right, he certainly seems so. This is an embarrassment!
an embarrassment is the afrikaner and other white minorities claiming to be Africans and referring to themselves as "white Africans". Whites and Africans are two separate groups. There is no such a thing as a white African. No government in any of the African countries recognises the white minorities as white Africans. You are etheir African or white. And even on official government documents you either mark African or white.

Since: Dec 08

Dubai, UAE

#12 Jan 23, 2013
If you come from a country in Europe, you're European. That's a fact.
The same is true of the Americas, Africa and any continent.
Deal with it. You're a black African. There are also white Africans. This is the reality even if you don't like it. Ask anyone is the world, they'll tell you are black - a fact of life. Get over it!
Lots of atrocities have been committed by people - all people of all races - the word over. But people have also done great things, shown great acts of humanity; isn't that more important that harbouring on old sad stories that can never be changed?
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#14 Jan 23, 2013
Hare wrote:
If you come from a country in Europe, you're European. That's a fact.
The same is true of the Americas, Africa and any continent.
Deal with it. You're a black African. There are also white Africans. This is the reality even if you don't like it. Ask anyone is the world, they'll tell you are black - a fact of life. Get over it!
Lots of atrocities have been committed by people - all people of all races - the word over. But people have also done great things, shown great acts of humanity; isn't that more important that harbouring on old sad stories that can never be changed?
I am not a black African, I am simply African and nobody in Africa sees themselves as black. That classification was conceived by whites and it has absolutely nothing to do with us Africans. There are four race classifications in South Africa and they are as follows: African, Asian, Coloured or white, example http://www.info.gov.za/aboutsa/people.htm it's the same classification in several other African countries that have colonial settlers. It's only a reality to you and you white kindred, it is a whole different story in Africa.
Diaspora Africans embrace their African heritage and many seldom identify as Europeans. I am not black, you moron. Africans do not identify themselves as black, get that through your thick skull already.
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#15 Jan 23, 2013
All African governments do not regard colonial settlers as Africans. The Afrikaner and their anglo counterparts are not Africans, they are South Africans by nationality, but they are NOT Africans.

Since: Dec 08

Dubai, UAE

#16 Jan 24, 2013
Ethio, I feel sorry for you. You can scream and rant and rave but the fact will never change that you indeed are of a race and that is called - the world over - black. Even if you asked a a black Frenchman, he would tell you that you are, of course, black. Ask a anyone in South Africa, Zimbabwe or Nigeria if you're black or white. What will they tell you? You're black! This is the reality of the world, like it or not!
Anyway, it is a really insignificant thing to be caught up over. It's just a word, so what's your problem? Please don't tell me "it's a white man's word GRRRRR"! Big deal, the white man invented loads of words that all languages across the globe are using.
I don't understand your problem. You say that Black Americans recognize and embrace their African heritage... well that's great. But they are still American. Take them to Africa; think they'll feel at home? Dream on! The reason being that they are, as already stated, American.
The same is true of the Whites and Indians in Africa! This is the reality - Africa is their home, the only one they have!
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#17 Jan 24, 2013
Hare wrote:
Ethio, I feel sorry for you. You can scream and rant and rave but the fact will never change that you indeed are of a race and that is called - the world over - black. Even if you asked a a black Frenchman, he would tell you that you are, of course, black. Ask a anyone in South Africa, Zimbabwe or Nigeria if you're black or white. What will they tell you? You're black! This is the reality of the world, like it or not!
Anyway, it is a really insignificant thing to be caught up over. It's just a word, so what's your problem? Please don't tell me "it's a white man's word GRRRRR"! Big deal, the white man invented loads of words that all languages across the globe are using.
I don't understand your problem. You say that Black Americans recognize and embrace their African heritage... well that's great. But they are still American. Take them to Africa; think they'll feel at home? Dream on! The reason being that they are, as already stated, American.
The same is true of the Whites and Indians in Africa! This is the reality - Africa is their home, the only one they have!
I am not black you, imbecile. I have furnished you with proof from a government website that shows that we do not refer to ourselves as blacks. You can refer to us however you like, I don't care. What? are you on crack? I have never made insinuations that I am white. I do not want to be associated with whites. You are either African or white, I am the former.
Jinxes

South Africa

#18 Jan 24, 2013
Ethio wrote:
<quoted text> I am not black you, imbecile. I have furnished you with proof from a government website that shows that we do not refer to ourselves as blacks. You can refer to us however you like, I don't care. What? are you on crack? I have never made insinuations that I am white. I do not want to be associated with whites. You are either African or white, I am the former.
Not black huh? From a government website huh? Great authority.

So by using your very own logic I can say that Broad-based BLACK Economic Empowerment is irrelevant because there are NO "blacks"?

The very same government you got your proof from calls you black here - deal with it.

Since: Dec 08

Dubai, UAE

#20 Jan 24, 2013
Ethio wrote:
<quoted text> I am not black you, imbecile. I have furnished you with proof from a government website that shows that we do not refer to ourselves as blacks. You can refer to us however you like, I don't care. What? are you on crack? I have never made insinuations that I am white. I do not want to be associated with whites. You are either African or white, I am the former.
Again, what's with the abuse? This is the second time you've been insulting when someone has challenged your opinions. If you can't handle a debate, then you should rethink entering discussions. Perhaps this forum is not for you.
How you inferred that I thought you were white is a compete mystery. Maybe you should reread my post. Otherwise perhaps the imbecile here is you?
Jinxes

South Africa

#21 Jan 28, 2013
Ethio wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, not black! From an African perspective.
Negative, African governments call their aboriginal inhabitants Africans, not black. Here is the proof again http://www.info.gov.za/aboutsa/people.htm
The malcontent Afrikaners and other white minorities are not considered Africans, they are colonial settlers of european descend.
You are completely out of your mind. Born in Africa = African. You can deny it all you want but denial is simply a river in Egypt.

So you're saying that Egyptians who are Arabic in heritage are not Africans? Clueless.
Real African

Walsall, UK

#22 Mar 13, 2013
Jinxes wrote:
<quoted text>
You are completely out of your mind. Born in Africa = African. You can deny it all you want but denial is simply a river in Egypt.
So you're saying that Egyptians who are Arabic in heritage are not Africans? Clueless.
How dare the Afrikaners call themselves Africans, they have some nerve they oppressed the real Africans and behaved like Nazis every time these Afriakners claim to be African I cringe and so do most black people we dont want any of these Nazi Boers calling themselves African it is an insult to black people especially to black South Africans who suffered under apartheid.

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