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#168 Apr 11, 2013
"if you follow truly Islam then you should know that your religion tells you to shut up as a woman and that you're an emotional wrack, lol, hence why the woman is half of a witness, basically for every male witness you as a female are only half of a witness. In your religion you will always be ''half''' so don't be angry if I would tell you to shut up, because it's part of your programming, as a matter of facts, whenever I tell you to shut up, you should actually listen, lol."
What do you do for a living, work for FOX NEWS?

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#169 Apr 11, 2013
"Now let me get to my first post, I commented on that religions were men made, you kept going on trying to divert from my comment by trying to claim that God wants to communicate with us through religion and you failed in this case."
I was trying to build my argument by starting from top and work my way down. But you have my full attentionnow, what do want talk about? And one topic at a time. Name the issue we are talk about with one sentence. For example, is religion man made? Simple.

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#170 Apr 11, 2013
"I tell you why God is not communicating with us through any of these men made religions such as Islam/Christianity/Judaism, because the ''Gods'' of all those scriptures promote rape, slavery, child molestation, adultery, plundering and I could go on about the disgusting activities that are promoted. So clearly these are the evidence that religions are men made, because it has every sickness in there that only humans can allow, or is your programming really that deep that you canít see this simple concept?"

I guess so.:)
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Leicester, UK

#171 Apr 11, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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This is not the first time a guy said shut up to me when they felt intimidated. I know men have fragile egos so itís all good.
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How do you know this? Where is your evidence?
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Thatís a bowl of lies. But this would take us to another conversation and since youíre so intent on talking about religion, than I wonít comment.
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If you prefer to talk about religion than God, then so be it. I would advice to be careful for what you wish for though. But donít be all over the place with your argument.
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Sigh. Even if what you say is true, how would it be wrong? And you say Iím going off topic. One time you want to talk about religion, next prophet Muhammad (saw), than the quran? How is a girl to choice, when itís all so tempting?
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Really? Well, I learned something new today. Why would he need to justify what he was doing if it was a crime? Do you even know the laws and the society of pre-Islamic Mecca? Clearly you donít. Not to mention your argument hold no water.
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Says who? Who died and made you king?
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LOL, no. The hadith was that Abu Bakr (ra) said that he thought the prophet and him were real blood brothers but the prophet (saw) explain what brothers in islam means. Aishaís (ra) and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. Aishaís father, Abu Bakr (ra) had no problem with her marrying at that age.
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You are not the first to tell me I will or hopes that I leave Islam and I donít think youíll be the last.
When Mohammed started to lust after the 6year old Aisha, he claimed that he had a vision of her in which the angels carried her to him and God demanded he had to marry her,lol. He actually went with that story to everyone and the way he plaid Abu Baker was the same way paedophiles operate in general. Abu baker was shocked about Mohammed asking for Aisha's hand because he didn't saw it coming and why would he when he viewed Mohammed like a brother and Mohammed had unlimited access to the house and family of Abu Baker.

What you need to understand is that the people were deeply programmed and viewed Mohammed like a God. The verse in the Quran about adoption was created by Mohammed when he started to lust after Zeynab this is a facts, because there are patterns of that man conveniently coming up with Quran verses whenever he wanted something from people, I will not go into details because the Atheist already covered the facts around the marriage with Zeynab and Islamic law brought forward by Mohammed about the adopting of a child.

the fact is the man you view as a ''prophet'' made women widows and forced them into becoming his concubines and the concubines of his Khalifas. he had wives, concubines and sex slaves and still the house maids were not save from him either. Everyone knows about Mohammed and how he cheated with house maids,
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Leicester, UK

#172 Apr 11, 2013
Mohammed made having sex with slaves girls the law with the help of his biography the Quran,lol.

70:22-30

"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."

the rape of females captives was very much accepted in Islamic law, by the Quran and by Mohammed

4:24
"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you.''
again Mohammed is told to rape female captives and view them as a present from Allah.

33:50
"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..."
Mohammed allowed his khalifas to rape female captives

FROM SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2,#3371

Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives,(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born".
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#173 Apr 11, 2013
More rape by Mohammed in his khalifa

FROM THE HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2,# 2150:

Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24].



The note on this Hadith says that "After the distribution of the spoils of war a man may have intercourse with the female slave after passing one menstrual period, if she is not pregnant. If she is pregnant one should wait till she delivers the child. This is the view held by Malik, al-Shafi and Abu Thawr. Abu Hanifah holds that if both the husband and wife are captivated together, their marriage tie still continues; they will not be separated. According to the majority of scholars, they will be separated. Al-Awzai maintains that their marriage tie will continue till they remain part of the spoils of war. If a man buys them, he may separate them if he desires, and cohabit with the female slave after one menstrual period.

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#174 Apr 11, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
"Now let me get to my first post, I commented on that religions were men made, you kept going on trying to divert from my comment by trying to claim that God wants to communicate with us through religion and you failed in this case."
I was trying to build my argument by starting from top and work my way down. But you have my full attentionnow, what do want talk about? And one topic at a time. Name the issue we are talk about with one sentence. For example, is religion man made? Simple.
Lol, never mind gorgeous. You have a nice weekend and next time be a good Muslimah and shut your mouth when Iím talking, donít reply back to me with impunity, lol.
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#175 Apr 11, 2013
Troll

religion is a blind faith and good luck trying to convince these facts to peace & others.

mohamed didn't even leave behind a book called koran, it was written/compiled long after his death by othman in a very controversial fashion. aisha says, the rajam/stonning and suckling (breast-feeding an adult-slave male to become a family member) verse was eaten by a goat, while the compiled koran after mohamed's death says, allah protects the koran. come on!!!! if allah can't protect it from a goat, how can he protect it from other natural disasters???

[Narrated 'Aisha] "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."

death by stonning for adultery has been a long held tradition in islam, from mohamed's days to this day by some muslim countries, even alshabab practiced it. other countries have abandoned just like they did abadnon child marriages (sunnah of mohamed) to the influence of others. the funny thing is, i met this feminist muslim chick who told me it wasn't a goat that ate the verse but aisha intentionally destroyed that verse, so she could save many future women from extreme justice. if that is true aisha is in deep trouble and she may end up with us in "hell".

good luck for attempting to reason with followers of all blind faiths.

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#176 Apr 12, 2013
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
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religion is a blind faith and good luck trying to convince these facts to peace & others.
mohamed didn't even leave behind a book called koran, it was written/compiled long after his death by othman in a very controversial fashion. aisha says, the rajam/stonning and suckling (breast-feeding an adult-slave male to become a family member) verse was eaten by a goat, while the compiled koran after mohamed's death says, allah protects the koran. come on!!!! if allah can't protect it from a goat, how can he protect it from other natural disasters???
[Narrated 'Aisha] "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
death by stonning for adultery has been a long held tradition in islam, from mohamed's days to this day by some muslim countries, even alshabab practiced it. other countries have abandoned just like they did abadnon child marriages (sunnah of mohamed) to the influence of others. the funny thing is, i met this feminist muslim chick who told me it wasn't a goat that ate the verse but aisha intentionally destroyed that verse, so she could save many future women from extreme justice. if that is true aisha is in deep trouble and she may end up with us in "hell".
good luck for attempting to reason with followers of all blind faiths.
how come you did answer any of my questions/ when I answer yours even if they make no sense?

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#177 Apr 12, 2013
man if I was going around in a circle, while Congrats because you are the king of the merry go round.
so the topic we are debating is religion man made?
and here is your argument to why religion is made up. I summarized, hope you don't mind?
1) the prophet (saw) married Aisha (ra),and his Son in law's ex-wife?
2) He made up verses to full fill his desires?
3)Islam allows slavery?

Did I miss anything or can I start my counter argument now?

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#178 Apr 12, 2013
These dogs keep getting more filthy by the day.

If all these accusations are true such as 'he used the koran to do so and so' then why is the Quran structured to cement a progressive and positive society that prevents divorce and promiscuity?

See: The real housewives of Saudi Arabia

Exactly, it doesn't exist unlike the real whores of any state you live in.

“Gaal wannabe”

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#179 Apr 12, 2013
Biography wrote:
These dogs keep getting more filthy by the day.
If all these accusations are true such as 'he used the koran to do so and so' then why is the Quran structured to cement a progressive and positive society that prevents divorce and promiscuity?
See: The real housewives of Saudi Arabia
Exactly, it doesn't exist unlike the real whores of any state you live in.
I still can't forget the hadith where Omar commands Mohamed to make a verse:

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 148:

Narrated 'Aisha:

The wives of the Prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night.'Umar used to say to the Prophet "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam'a the wife of the Prophet went out at 'Isha' time and she was a tall lady.'Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).

http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/bu...

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#180 Apr 12, 2013
@Chottomatte

Oxymoron. If Allah revealed the verses, then he exists and you should be scared, you can't pick and mix.

Unless you're suggesting that religion is made up then so is that piece of text you have just sent me, just like many other hadith used to propel Islamphobic agenda.

'Volume 1, Book 4, Number 148' LOL. Of what book?
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#181 Apr 12, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
man if I was going around in a circle, while Congrats because you are the king of the merry go round.
so the topic we are debating is religion man made?
and here is your argument to why religion is made up. I summarized, hope you don't mind?
1) the prophet (saw) married Aisha (ra),and his Son in law's ex-wife?
2) He made up verses to full fill his desires?
3)Islam allows slavery?
Did I miss anything or can I start my counter argument now?
Number 3======comment on it. the others you avoided.

islam doesn't only allow slavery but muslim men were given the pleasure to have sex with any slave girl and also a slave husband's wife. isn't that the rape laws of jim crow's recent past in your neck of your woods? do you agree with it? it is still legal in islam, but like shagging children, it is now outlawed by others and muslim countries have to comply with it. why can't muslim women have sex with their slave men instead of being told to suckle adult slave men, so they wont shag them? mohamed needed men to fight for his philosophy and rewarded them. he didn't give a damn about the rights of a women. yeah, islam is good for women, indeed. why would i bother asking you this when you won't answer it.

have a nice day my dear.

“Gaal wannabe”

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#182 Apr 12, 2013
Biography wrote:
@Chottomatte
Oxymoron. If Allah revealed the verses, then he exists and you should be scared, you can't pick and mix.
Unless you're suggesting that religion is made up then so is that piece of text you have just sent me, just like many other hadith used to propel Islamphobic agenda.
'Volume 1, Book 4, Number 148' LOL. Of what book?
It's more like Occam's razor, Zebra law, text book duck test.

Can Omar command Allah? Nope
Can Mohamed command Allah? Nope

So how come Omar could command Allah in this case? It's simple! There's no Allah.

If you have objections against his hadith, perhaps you should consider becoming a Quran only guy. Because the hadith is authentic and part of Sahih Bukhari, the most respected hadith Muslims have. The fact that you didn't recognize the hadith by the reference of volume book tells me you suck at being a Muslim anyway, quraanka koo dhan aan akhriyay kulahaa lol.

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#183 Apr 12, 2013
Biography wrote:
@Chottomatte
Oxymoron. If Allah revealed the verses, then he exists and you should be scared, you can't pick and mix.
Unless you're suggesting that religion is made up then so is that piece of text you have just sent me, just like many other hadith used to propel Islamphobic agenda.
'Volume 1, Book 4, Number 148' LOL. Of what book?
Brother there is actually a hadith just like that. I don't know what is wrong with the last part of the hadith he posted but it is pretty much the same thing. Umar (ra) had suggestions to the prophet before the verse were revealed, like the hijab. There are nine incidence like this.
The Prophet (SAWS) said,ďIf there is going to be a Prophet after me, it would be Umar (ra).Ē

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#184 Apr 12, 2013
"Number 3======comment on it. the others you avoided." What?
"islam doesn't only allow slavery but muslim men were given the pleasure to have sex with any slave girl and also a slave husband's wife." ok, my bad. I'll change that question.
"why can't muslim women have sex with their slave men"
Good question.
"mohamed needed men to fight for his philosophy and rewarded them. he didn't give a damn about the rights of a women."
that would make a good topic to discuss about.
"yeah, islam is good for women, indeed. why would i bother asking you this when you won't answer it."
I would if you gave me one question at a time. also, I'm not a scholar, so if you need me to answer these questions really badly go to a scholar. I'm only here to discus topics, not teach people about islam.
"have a nice day my dear."
Thank you, I will and I hope you have a wonderful one as well.

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#185 Apr 12, 2013
*(saw)
thehassanabdi

UK

#186 Apr 14, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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Brother there is actually a hadith just like that. I don't know what is wrong with the last part of the hadith he posted but it is pretty much the same thing. Umar (ra) had suggestions to the prophet before the verse were revealed, like the hijab. There are nine incidence like this.
The Prophet (SAWS) said,ďIf there is going to be a Prophet after me, it would be Umar (ra).Ē
SAWS?????? Walahi this bastard is NOT a muslim. She-male aka DOG VOODOO aka insearchof, Just stop pretending,you are only making a fool of yourself idiot
thehassanabdi

UK

#187 Apr 14, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
*(saw)
and here you pretend to have forgotten to bless prophet MUHAMMAD pbuh? Lol I know your ass more than you know yourself bastardo!

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