Is it Haram?

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ZoKhalifa

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Jul 8, 2013
 
We hold hands, talk and always in touch. We don't talk dirty or anything, and we consider it our own form of dating.

I plan on introducing her to my Somali mother, but I fear for her reaction and whether a non-somali, although muslim, is acceptable.

I love her, my freinds and cousins who knows about her don't like her because she is white. She even wears scarf after being convinced! Could I please get the advice of anyone educated on a similar situation?
Sheikh Voodoo

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Jul 8, 2013
 
ZoKhalifa wrote:
We hold hands, talk and always in touch. We don't talk dirty or anything, and we consider it our own form of dating.
What I noticed about the Somali culture is that it is frowned upon married couples holding hands in public, but it is normal to see men holding shoulders and hands in public.

If she is a good person as you said, and you love and care about her, be a strong man and don't bother with what others, your parents, relatives or, friends may think of her and continue with the relationship. Tell them to take the backseat and once, they come to the realisation that she is a great person and your love for one another is blossoming and is sincere, they will accept her.
layla

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Jul 8, 2013
 
Yes, follow your heart.If you truly care about her then it should be easy to tell your family.
Somali Man

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Jul 9, 2013
 
Bro. At this point, everything is Haram. If you think it's wrong, then don't do it. If you think it's right, and it is right, and no one is harmed, then I'd do it.
jazz

Reusel, Netherlands

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Jul 9, 2013
 
If your were a real muslim u wouldnt ask this kind of questions on the internet.. and your mother also learned u a lot right?... U can have a girlfriend who isnt what ur parents want her to be.. but i know u cant make people the way u want them to be.. if she isnt a real muslim.. also think about ur future.. and your kids later.

And follow your heart isnt a good advise..
Your family will always will be there for u.
a man or a women will not be always with u..
and only if u listen to your parents u will find true happines..

we must follow the koran.. if we like it or not..
if u dont believe in that..
u will regret it later.

If u dont listen to your parents u will get inkar.. or u will disgrace the name of your family.. i dont care what year it is and where i live. I learned from my mistakes.. and a gaal or a white man can't love me like my family does.

Family will be their and love u and support u no matter what.

Think twice before u dissepoint the people u love.
Sheikh Voodoo

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Jul 9, 2013
 
jazz wrote:
If your were a real muslim u wouldnt ask this kind of questions on the internet.. and your mother also learned u a lot right?... U can have a girlfriend who isnt what ur parents want her to be.
He mentioned his mother because he is one of the hundred's of thousands of Somalis with a single mother, what would she advice him to do? It like female genital mutilation, women programmed to practice on their daughters. How else would she know this white
chick means the relationship to work? He is a troll but a great query.
jazz wrote:
.. but i know u cant make people the way u want them to be.. if she isnt a real muslim.. also think about ur future.. and your kids later.
Is marrying a Somali granted allah heaven? We know Somali marriages, it is tribal and prejudiced to others and if that is your Islam------let him marry others.
jazz wrote:
.. And follow your heart isnt a good advise...
true.
jazz wrote:
.. your family will always will be there for u.
a man or a women will not be always with u...
Not always, Somalis families despise a suitable girl for their boy or, the other way because of their tribe------don't lie about them.
and only if u listen to your parents u will find true happines..
jazz wrote:
.. we must follow the koran.. if we like it or not.. if u dont believe in that.. u will regret it later.[/QUOTE

will you follow it? say it here openly that you will marry a muslim bantu Somali? or, qabiil is king. don't lie.

[QUOTE who="jazz"].. If u dont listen to your parents u will get inkar.].[/QUOTE

like for the tribe or?
what?

[QUOTE who="jazz"]. or u will disgrace the name of your family.
You mean the tribe? Or, Somalis struggling one's child not to marry certain tribes?
jazz wrote:
. i dont care what year it is and where i live. I learned from my mistakes.. and a gaal or a white man can't love me like my family does.
let them do it too. one white man and your family?
jazz wrote:
Family will be their and love u and support u no matter what.
his or her of Somali families maybe busy with the divorces of their Somali marriages to their children---once they got to know them that they are long term parents-----you Mrs as a single mum---should applaud them.
thehassanabdi

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Jul 9, 2013
 
Wallahi the OP is none other than the PIG VOODOO aka insearchof aka biiography aka ruby aka magnus Scrotum aka all the above etc etc

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Jul 9, 2013
 
ZoKhalifa wrote:
We hold hands, talk and always in touch. We don't talk dirty or anything, and we consider it our own form of dating.
I plan on introducing her to my Somali mother, but I fear for her reaction and whether a non-somali, although muslim, is acceptable.
I love her, my freinds and cousins who knows about her don't like her because she is white. She even wears scarf after being convinced! Could I please get the advice of anyone educated on a similar situation?
Brother I will keep it simple & short for you:

1) Holding hands is NOT Allowed

2) Talking to her without the direct approval from her parents is NOT Allowed (you have to ask them each time you want to talk to her - eg. They allowed you to talk yesterday & so you need to ask them again today)

3) Is she a true muslim?(You can still marry her even if she is a christian or jew but just think about your kids...) The prophet said the best wife is the devout muslima.

4) Also a mere scarf is not enough... Everything except for her hands and face have to be FULLY covered. No tight or revealing clothes.

Regards
You mad bro
jazz

Reusel, Netherlands

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Jul 9, 2013
 
I think your the kind who will marry a white women-man ..( what u are)..
But we are talkin about how a moslim mother will react to this..
Brining someone to your family is a big step.. we are not white people.. people will react diffrent always.. if ur christen muslim jew.. Everyone wants that their childeren become a good person with the right person..
You think because its 2013 its normal to mix everything.. And im not a 40 or 30 year old women.. im 21 and im not raised in somalie.. but in a white country.. and still following what theres writing in the koran..
I think your friends also are more white people..
u need to read the koran then u will understand im talking only about our culture and our DIN.
Marocan , turkey, arabic .. all marrie there own kind.. Not only somali..
And not all somali wedding end with a single mom..
my parents are happy together 35 years..
So don`t think your life.. is the same as mine..
Im raised a other type of way..
And my parents never learned me things about tribes.. So don`t bring that up..
Sheikh Voodoo

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Jul 9, 2013
 
you mad bro wrote:
Brother I will keep it simple & short for you:
1) Holding hands is NOT Allowed
2) Talking to her without the direct approval from her parents is NOT Allowed (you have to ask them each time you want to talk to her - eg. They allowed you to talk yesterday & so you need to ask them again today)
3) Is she a true muslim?(You can still marry her even if she is a christian or jew but just think about your kids...) The prophet said the best wife is the devout muslima.
4) Also a mere scarf is not enough... Everything except for her hands and face have to be FULLY covered. No tight or revealing clothes.
Regards
You mad bro
Magnus aka You mad bro

is a guy who the deaths of more than 100 civilians including children and women in kismayo between his darod clan, dismisses as a tribal casualty of civilians from his tribal enemy and he is a man whose grandparents never saw kismayo. He have to support his tribal brethrens. He is preaching now---for who and what?---He never mentions the deaths of these Somali victims at all. they are killed on his wishes.
Sheikh Voodoo

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#11
Jul 9, 2013
 
OP

These are the kinds of people who you ask what is halal and haram. Somalis with blood on their hands and your own common sense.

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