are Somaliland upset and bothered of constitution or (DASTUUR) 60

Posted in the Somalia Forum

Comments

Showing posts 1 - 20 of45
< prev page
|
Go to last page| Jump to page:

“Laabtaydaan kugu qoray”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#1
Feb 5, 2011
 
I hear one of reasons somaliland choose to seprate from south is bc of they are upset on system too.
Do you have any idea?
EMJ

Etobicoke, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#2
Feb 5, 2011
 
What is Somaliland you mean Isaaq?

You cant seperate other peoples land who were kings and darawiish because you hate them.

“Laabtaydaan kugu qoray”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#3
Feb 5, 2011
 
who="EMJ"]What is Somaliland you mean Isaaq?
You cant seperate other peoples land who were kings and darawiish because you hate them

take it positive. I dont hate nobody. And i dont understand ur exact point . but there is land they call somaliland and there is reason behind why they apart from somali.
it not only what happen of the time of sayid barre regime
but it is more far from that u find out.
EMJ

Etobicoke, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#4
Feb 5, 2011
 
madmullahsom wrote:
who="EMJ"]What is Somaliland you mean Isaaq?
You cant seperate other peoples land who were kings and darawiish because you hate them
take it positive. I dont hate nobody. And i dont understand ur exact point . but there is land they call somaliland and there is reason behind why they apart from somali.
it not only what happen of the time of sayid barre regime
but it is more far from that u find out.
Their is a land called British Somaliland-Italia Somaliland: The kings of Majartin and Warsangali ruled them. Which land are you talking about?

Boqor Kenadiid or Sultan Maxamoud Ali Shire?
storyteller

Surrey, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#5
Feb 5, 2011
 
Somaliland ok let us be specific, Isaaqs, are upset and bothered by the constitution? or is there a historic mistake? both of those questions the answer is no
you see the mind can trick you, example have you ever had a dream where you needed to pie so you walk in the toilet and star releaving your self only to find out your still in bed
1960 Somalis where united the Dastuur was just it did not matter where or what clan you where from, you could have run for office in any province, it was all politics but Somalis called it Musuqmaasuq, one person one vote was kicked out by Millitery gangs and first thing they did was take away every right the Dastuur gave to the people, and slowly but surely the gangs could not hide their clanish mentality so they broke up and the Goverment became qabiil and Isaaqs started to feel left out and some times targeted for revenge, their love for their country was used agains them or atleast thats how they feel
one needs to ask himself why would some one runaway from Haila Salase and run to Mingiste? then attack Hargeisa?
am not here to gudje any thin but Isaaqs has got one thing right southern Somalis are Faqash they shoul not be trusted, they even try to loot histry by using the great peoms of Sayidka against Isaaqs! ok explain this to me
Sidii gurey haruur baan kortiis guran Ogaadeene
malahayga wey go'ahayaan sidii gal miireede
ok let's go and make sure thats the case

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#6
Feb 5, 2011
 
EMJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Their is a land called British Somaliland-Italia Somaliland: The kings of Majartin and Warsangali ruled them. Which land are you talking about?
Boqor Kenadiid or Sultan Maxamoud Ali Shire?
i never heard those names walaahi,who are they?????

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#7
Feb 5, 2011
 
madmullahsom wrote:
I hear one of reasons somaliland choose to seprate from south is bc of they are upset on system too.
Do you have any idea?
in reality,somaliland is waiting the south to settle,we arn't those who will be behind the spliting of the somali unity,may be at last we demand something,like the capital for example. but at the end of the day no pure somali wants his nation to breakaway into unicountries and becomes weak.
we are very ambitious and we want to lead by compition the HOA.
sorry,dont worry just settle the south and we are ready for the help to defeat the Ashabaab and the tail gov,BOTH.
changeurnamelast trueniggo

Göteborg, Sweden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8
Feb 6, 2011
 
storyteller wrote:
Somaliland ok let us be specific, Isaaqs, are upset and bothered by the constitution? or is there a historic mistake? both of those questions the answer is no
you see the mind can trick you, example have you ever had a dream where you needed to pie so you walk in the toilet and star releaving your self only to find out your still in bed
1960 Somalis where united the Dastuur was just it did not matter where or what clan you where from, you could have run for office in any province, it was all politics but Somalis called it Musuqmaasuq, one person one vote was kicked out by Millitery gangs and first thing they did was take away every right the Dastuur gave to the people, and slowly but surely the gangs could not hide their clanish mentality so they broke up and the Goverment became qabiil and Isaaqs started to feel left out and some times targeted for revenge, their love for their country was used agains them or atleast thats how they feel
one needs to ask himself why would some one runaway from Haila Salase and run to Mingiste? then attack Hargeisa?
am not here to gudje any thin but Isaaqs has got one thing right southern Somalis are Faqash they shoul not be trusted, they even try to loot histry by using the great peoms of Sayidka against Isaaqs! ok explain this to me
Sidii gurey haruur baan kortiis guran Ogaadeene
malahayga wey go'ahayaan sidii gal miireede
ok let's go and make sure thats the case
all you said was "siad barre attacked us we wanna split" thats the exact reason in short and a stupid reason. because siad barre was a ethiopian slave and ethiopia worked on spliting somalia they achieved this by using siad barre and SNM (which they created) to split somaliland from somalia. easy, somalilanders are being used and brainwashed easily with this "siad barre killed us, now we split for safety" infact your bringing more trouble to the somali people whether their from somaliland or south somalia. spliting somalia will be the biggest mistake the isaaqlanders have done, they've always trusted foreigners rather than their own kind and thats what bring trouble to the whole of somalia and themselves.
siad barre is long gone hes dead its over, so stop listening to the ethiopian snake slave somaliland presidents that brainwash you everyday with shit. somaliland is just an ethiopian vassal like djibouti is an american vassal. its in ethiopias interest to split somalia into small countries.
Younis

Luton, UK

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#9
Feb 6, 2011
 
waqooyi wrote:
<quoted text>
in reality,somaliland is waiting the south to settle,we arn't those who will be behind the spliting of the somali unity,may be at last we demand something,like the capital for example. but at the end of the day no pure somali wants his nation to breakaway into unicountries and becomes weak.
we are very ambitious and we want to lead by compition the HOA.
sorry,dont worry just settle the south and we are ready for the help to defeat the Ashabaab and the tail gov,BOTH.
Somaliland will never join somalia end of! whether they have peace or not.
And any Isaq that wants to join somalia can go but they will never take a piece of our land with them and the doors of Somaliland will forever be closed on them!
Hooyo Masaaiyo

Västra Frölunda, Sweden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#10
Feb 6, 2011
 
Younis wrote:
<quoted text>Somaliland will never join somalia end of! whether they have peace or not.
And any Isaq that wants to join somalia can go but they will never take a piece of our land with them and the doors of Somaliland will forever be closed on them!
lol what if 90% gets cured and wants to join somalia?
THomes Juwish

Atlanta, GA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#11
Feb 6, 2011
 
Somaland vs somalia the bigges somali war ever 100,000 people die. I like this somali vs somali
EMJ

Etobicoke, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#12
Feb 6, 2011
 
Small clan small brains we never heard of isaaq until Warsanagli enslaved them and the darawiish karbaashed them. Habar Majartin is the biggest clan in Somalia and their is no way Habar Majartin land and people will not rule Hargisa again. Which your isaqq fantasy is just a fantasy.
muslim

Munich, Germany

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#13
Feb 6, 2011
 
the biggest kaffir clan which cannot survivr on earth in legal way.They are the kind of sub humans who are uncivilised and lack of human respect.It is full of mafias from jigjiga to eyl by robbery,piracy,sex trafficking,terrorism and full of shit.Apparently muslim innocent people live in full of fear and inshaalaah ALLAH will pay them those kaffir thugs barstards
EMJ

Etobicoke, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#14
Feb 6, 2011
 
Hi troll majartin and warsangali are Somalias elite clan. Better luck next time :)
GLK

“Jamaame, Somalia”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#15
Feb 6, 2011
 
changeurnamelasttrueniggo wrote:
<quoted text>
all you said was "siad barre attacked us we wanna split" thats the exact reason in short and a stupid reason. because siad barre was a ethiopian slave and ethiopia worked on spliting somalia they achieved this by using siad barre and SNM (which they created) to split somaliland from somalia. easy, somalilanders are being used and brainwashed easily with this "siad barre killed us, now we split for safety" infact your bringing more trouble to the somali people whether their from somaliland or south somalia. spliting somalia will be the biggest mistake the isaaqlanders have done, they've always trusted foreigners rather than their own kind and thats what bring trouble to the whole of somalia and themselves.
siad barre is long gone hes dead its over, so stop listening to the ethiopian snake slave somaliland presidents that brainwash you everyday with shit. somaliland is just an ethiopian vassal like djibouti is an american vassal. its in ethiopias interest to split somalia into small countries.
Well said!
HargeysaGuy

London, UK

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#16
Feb 6, 2011
 
Somaliland (Former British Somaliland)
Gained Independence in June 26th 1960, After 5 days, the Hopeful's in Somaliland, Sacrificed their Sovereignty , to join with the Trusteeship of Italian Somalia *HINT*(Italian Somalia was everything but Somaliland, meaning, from Mogadishu to Bosasso).
After the Somali Union Flag was raised in downtown Hargeisa July 1st 1960, Here's a list of the Somali president's of which NONE were isaaq ,(Isaaq= 1 of the 3 Main clans in the Somali Peninsula)

Somali Republic:

Aden Abdullah Osman Daar-(Hawiye)1 July 1960 – 10 June 1967
(SYL: Somali Youth League)
Abdirashid Ali Shermarke-(Darood)10 June 1967 – 15 October 1969(SYL: Somali Youth League)
Sheikh Mukhtar Mohamed Hussein(Rahanwein)(interim)
-15 October 1969 – 21 October 1969-(SYL:Somali Youth League)

Somali Democratic Republic:

-Muhammad Siad Barre(Darood)-21 October 1969 – 26 January 1991-Somali Revolutionary Socialist Party (SRSP)

As you can see, the Isaaq or the Northern clans haven't been the President of the Somali republic
so In April 1981, a group of Isaaq dissidents living in London formed the Somali National Movement (SNM), and at the end of 1981 it was announced in London, which subsequently became one of the Somalia's various insurgent movements. According to its spokesmen, the rebels wanted to overthrow Siad Barre's dictatorship.SNM had Support of Ethiopia, but that all ended when he signed to not interfere with what's going on the North in April 4 1988, So the SNM had to work on it's OWN.

The SPM succeeded in overrunning several government outposts in southern Somalia. The SNM-USC-SPM unification agreement failed to last after Siad Barre fled Mogadishu. On January 26, 1991, the USC formed an interim government, which the SNM refused to recognize. On May 18, 1991, the SNM declared the northwestern Somali regions independent, establishing the Republic of Somaliland. The USC interim government opposed this declaration, arguing instead for a unified Somalia. Apart from these political disagreements, fighting broke out between and within the USC and SPM.

Ok?
HargeysaGuy

London, UK

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#17
Feb 6, 2011
 
In October 1982, the SNM increased pressure against the Siad Barre regime by forming a joint military committee with the SSDF(Majeerteen Movement). Apart from issuing antigovernment statements, the two insurgent groups started broadcasting from the former Radio Kulmis station, now known as Radio Halgan (struggle). Despite this political cooperation, the SNM and SSDF failed to agree on a common strategy against Mogadishu. As a result, the alliance languished.
In February 1983, Siad Barre visited northern Somalia in a campaign to discredit the SNM. Among other things, he ordered the release of numerous civil servants and businessmen who had been arrested for antigovernment activities, lifted the state of emergency, and announced an amnesty for Somali exiles who wanted to return home. These tactics put the rebels on the political defensive for several months. In November 1983, the SNM Central Committee sought to regain the initiative by holding an emergency meeting to formulate a more aggressive strategy. One outcome was that the military wing--headed by Abdulqaadir Kosar Abdi, formerly of the SNA--assumed control of the Central Committee by ousting the civilian membership from all positions of power. However, in July 1984, at the Fourth SNM Congress, held in Ethiopia, the civilians regained control of the leadership. The delegates also elected Ahmad Mahammad Mahamuud "Silanyo" SNM chairman and reasserted their intention to revive the alliance with the SSDF.
After the Fourth SNM Congress adjourned, military activity in northern Somalia increased. SNM commandos attacked about a dozen government military posts in the vicinity of Hargeysa, Burao, and Berbera. According to the SNM, the SNA responded by shooting 300 people at a demonstration in Burao, sentencing seven youths to death for sedition, and arresting an unknown number of rebel sympathizers. In January 1985, the government executed twenty- eight people in retaliation for antigovernment activity.
Between June 1985 and February 1986, the SNM claimed to have carried out thirty operations against government forces in northern Somalia. In addition, the SNM reported that it had killed 476 government soldiers and wounded 263, and had captured eleven vehicles and had destroyed another twenty-two, while losing only 38 men and two vehicles. Although many independent observers said these figures were exaggerated, SNM operations during the 1985-86 campaign forced Siad Barre to mount an international effort to cut off foreign aid to the rebels. This initiative included reestablishment of diplomatic relations with Libya in exchange for Tripoli's promise to stop supporting the SNM.
Despite efforts to isolate the rebels, the SNM continued military operations in northern Somalia. Between July and September 1987, the SNM initiated approximately thirty attacks, including one on the northern capital, Hargeysa; none of these, however, weakened the government's control of northern Somalia. A more dramatic event occurred when a SNM unit kidnapped a Médecins Sans Frontičres medical aid team of ten Frenchmen and one Djiboutian to draw the world's attention to Mogadishu's policy of impressing men from refugee camps into the SNA. After ten days, the SNM released the hostages.
HargeysaGuy

London, UK

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#18
Feb 6, 2011
 
To weaken Siad Barre's regime further, the SNM encouraged the formation of other clan-based insurgent movements and provided them with political and military support. In particular, the SNM maintained close relations with the United Somali Congress (USC), which was active in central Somalia, and the Somali Patriotic Movement (SPM), which operated in southern Somalia. Both these groups sought to overthrow Siad Barre's regime and establish a democratic form of government. The Isaaq as a clan-family occupy the northern portion of the country. Three major cities are predominantly, if not exclusively, Isaaq: Hargeysa, the second largest city in Somalia until it was razed during disturbances in 1988; Burao in the interior, also destroyed by the military; and the port of Berbera.
HargeysaGuy

London, UK

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#19
Feb 6, 2011
 
Formed in London on April 6, 1981, by 400 to 500 Isaaq emigrés, the Somali National Movement (SNM) remained an Isaaq clan-family organization dedicated to ridding the country of Siad Barre. The Isaaq felt deprived both as a clan and as a region, and Isaaq outbursts against the central government had occurred sporadically since independence. The SNM launched a military campaign in 1988, capturing Burao on May 27 and part of Hargeysa on May 31. Government forces bombarded the towns heavily in June, forcing the SNM to withdraw and causing more than 300,000 Isaaq to flee to Ethiopia. The military regime conducted savage reprisals against the Isaaq. The same methods were used as against the Majeerteen-- destruction of water wells and grazing grounds and raping of women. An estimated 5,000 Isaaq were killed between May 27 and the end of December 1988. About 80,000 died in the fighting, including women and children, were alleged to have been BAYONETED to death. Bitter cross-clan feuding fed by the inept and brutal one-party rule of Muhammad Siad Barre (Siyad Barrah) came to a head in the spring of 1988 when the Somali National Movement (SNM) began taking over towns and military installations in the north. Thousands were killed, and hundreds of thousands of refugees fled to neighboring Ethiopia. Somalia's capital, Mogadishu, remained in the hands of the socialist government. In the meantime the SNM made major gains. Therefore, in late May 1988 SNM units moved out of their Ethiopian base camps and launched a major offensive in northern Somalia. The rebels temporarily occupied the provincial capitals of Burao and Hargeysa. These early successes bolstered the SNM's popular support, as thousands of disaffected Isaaq clan members and SNA deserters joined the rebel ranks. Over the next few years, the SNM took control of almost all of northwestern Somalia and extended its area of operations about fifty kilometers east of Erigavo. However, the SNM did not gain control of the region's major cities (i.e., Berbera, Hargeysa, Burao, and Boorama), but succeeded only in laying siege to them. With Ethiopian military assistance no longer a factor, the SNM's success depended on its ability to capture weapons from the SNA. The rebels seized numerous vehicles such as Toyota Land Cruisers from government forces and subsequently equipped them with light and medium weapons such as 12.7mm and 14.5mm machine guns, 106mm recoilless rifles, and BM-21 rocket launchers.
The SNM possessed antitank weapons such as Soviet B-10 tubes and RPG-7s. For air defense the rebels operated Soviet 30mm and 23mm guns, several dozen Soviet ZU23 2s, and Czech-made twin-mounted 30mm ZU30 2s. The SNM also maintained a small fleet of armed speed boats that operated from Maydh, fifty kilometers northwest of Erigavo, and Xiis, a little west of Maydh. Small arms included 120mm mortars and various assault rifles, such as AK-47s, M-16s, and G-3s. Despite these armaments, rebel operations, especially against the region's major cities, suffered because of an inadequate logistics system and a lack of artillery, mine-clearing equipment, ammunition, and communications gear. To weaken Siad Barre's regime further, the SNM encouraged the formation of other clan-based insurgent movements and provided them with political and military support. In particular, the SNM maintained close relations with the United Somali Congress (USC), which was active in central Somalia, and the Somali Patriotic Movement (SPM), which operated in southern Somalia. Both these groups sought to overthrow Siad Barre's regime and establish a democratic form of government.
HargeysaGuy

London, UK

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#20
Feb 6, 2011
 
Hargeisa 2011:

A group of children playing football behind Mansoor Hotel ; as the ball went out of play, one of the boys found a Mine , he took it and it detonated, killing the boy who was 15 years old, and injuring another 3.
UN: The regime of Siad barre had an estimated 400,000 to 800,000 Mines planted in Somaliland.

Need more reason's why?

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Showing posts 1 - 20 of45
< prev page
|
Go to last page| Jump to page:
Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

55 Users are viewing the Somalia Forum right now

Search the Somalia Forum:
Topic Updated Last By Comments
IHow can people say Somalis aren't Arabs when t... 20 min Sheikh Voodoo 24
Somalia Bantu problem (Feb '13) 52 min A Somali 304
Who supports Al-shabaab? (Sep '12) 1 hr rob ford 6
Do you know Barawani people?Are they mixed Soma... (Jul '09) 2 hr Hamadi 411
Any somali medical students in Eastern Europe 2 hr ilyas 2
Yemeni Arab woman in uk what do you think of us... (May '12) 3 hr Living2die 64
What is your tribe? (Jul '13) 4 hr Black Adan 119
gus wayne gabadhii rabta halkanaa laga helaa (Jun '09) 14 hr Jamal 4,237
futada iyo siilka keba macaan (May '11) Sat Ali mohamed 1,531
•••
•••
•••
•••