Somaliland and Israel

Mar 13, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Jerusalem Post

Ever since I was born I could hear the waves of hatred and prejudice pouring upon Jews for unexplained reasons.

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how much did they pay this guy to write this article ?
he's obviously advocating for a zionist imperialism in the guise of fake democracy..and what outrages me more is he uses somaliland as a political front for zionism in somalia , is he trying to divide somalis by using yahuudis and everyone knows yahuudi is a insult among somalis , but i do agree with him on saudis they are known to use their 'charities ' to spread corrupt salafism but israel is no good either...we as somalis should say no to israeli zionist imperialism and saudis corrupt salafism ! simple as that !

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Somali people have no real reason to hate jews. The only reason why a somali person would be hostile towards jews is because his/her arab masters said so.
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somalis should'nt even hate religious jews but they should be against the atheist jew creation aka zionism imperialism...somalia or somaliland should not have any diplomatic relations with Israel and we shoud boycott their products...Israel is a modern apartheid south africa but with less media coverage.

its funny when people talk about the holocuast or the suffering of south africans under a white racist govermnet but when that kind of stuff happens today no one bats a eye ! so when is the world gonna wake up and realise that Israel is terrorist , racist and rogue state ? when ? in 50 yrs , 100 years ? only time will tell...whatever happens in the dark shall come to light inshallah !

FREE PALESTINE , FREE HUMANITY !
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LOOOOOL This article is just nothing more than just a self serving propaganda written by a non Somali for instance Sheikh Voodoo aka INSEARCH_OF aka beggar adoon anti-Somali.
Indeed, this "Ever since I was born I could hear the waves of hatred and prejudice pouring upon Jews for unexplained reasons, but apparently associated with the Arab-Israeli conflict, which Somalia was not a part of." gives away the writer. It easily shows how much this non Somali writer is willing to lie even though s/he knows nothing about Somalia and its people. And we have already seen how much lies that our resident topix aka INSEARCH_OF had posted in this forum over the years. So, nothing new!
when reading this article i could not help but notice the hate he has for Arabs and the way he is pushing Israhell on us
for a moment there i thought this article was written by none other than Insearch dhilo and sheikh voodo khaniis , walahi their views are indentical ! we better be careful these people are either non somalis who are culturally somali or just a self hater who being paid to do this e.g Ayan hersi .

alhamdulilah for the clan system becuase it has helped us identify who is somali and who is not, hopefully these somali wannabes will be limited to the cyber world and will never have a voice in somali affairs unless they show their identification ( qolo ma ayaad tahay) until then waxan u qadaaya HIT THE ROAD JACK DONT YOU COME BACK NO MORE !

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israeli zionist imperialism and saudis corrupt salafism ! simple as that !
You can't have it both ways, my nomadic friend. The year is 2013. Unless you want us to remain the worst country in the world, and hopefully god will come save us after another 100 years.
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I stopped reading after this line

"In fact, it is Saudi “aid” that has kept Somalia at war for the past six years"

Some people wish to blame the Saudis for everything that is wrong in this world. I don't understand how rational and intelligent individuals can come to the conclusion that all the world's problems stems from one country ( Saudi Arabia ).

Hatred of the Jews existed long before any Arab-Israeli conflict. The author seems to be implying that the Arabs are solely responsible for this hatred LOL

Maybe he needs to learn a little bit of European history. Europeans have hated Jews for thousands of years. Their hatred stems from a misguided belief that Jews were responsible for the execution of Christ.

The Jewish persecution in Europe is truly fascinating, because it's so illogical.
The Europeans forced Jewish communities to live in separate neighbourhoods, they often endured forced migration. The Jews were blamed for any crisis that occurred. They were even blamed for the plague that had crippled most of Europe in the 14th century. A commonly held belief was that Jews were secretly poisoning wells, which was resulting in all the deaths LMAO

The Arab dispute with Jews is a territorial one.

If there was any doubt to the extent of anti-Semitic feelings that exist in Europe till this day, all you need to do is look at football matches LOL

Watch Spurs away LOL




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You can't have it both ways, my nomadic friend. The year is 2013. Unless you want us to remain the worst country in the world, and hopefully god will come save us after another 100 years.
"US"???? What exactly do you mean by that eeyahow? OH ! The "cultural" somali,I see, keep dreaming boy/girl
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Some people wish to blame the Saudis for everything that is wrong in this world. I don't understand how rational and intelligent individuals can come to the conclusion that all the world's problems stems from one country ( Saudi Arabia ).
The reason why many in the Muslim world blame Saudi Arabia for the conditions they find themselves in today is through their export of wahabism to these countries that creates an atmosphere of intolerance, hatred and deep divissions among their many sects that used to live side by side without resorting to takfirism and the elimination and assassinations of their sectarian spiritual leaders. Case in point is what is happening today in your tribal enclave in Puntland by the execusions of muslim scolars. It is these ittihad leaders (the fathers of alshabab) who first declared the sufi tari5s to be infidels and their leaders should be eliminated during the ittihad and a.yusuf wars in puntland. karma is a biatch and therefore, it is coming home to roost. It is this saudi doctrine that is despised from ma5rib to mashri5 in the muslim world.
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Hatred of the Jews existed long before any Arab-Israeli conflict. The author seems to be implying that the Arabs are solely responsible for this hatred LOL
Maybe he needs to learn a little bit of European history. Europeans have hated Jews for thousands of years. Their hatred stems from a misguided belief that Jews were responsible for the execution of Christ.
The Jewish persecution in Europe is truly fascinating, because it's so illogical.
The Europeans forced Jewish communities to live in separate neighbourhoods, they often endured forced migration. The Jews were blamed for any crisis that occurred. They were even blamed for the plague that had crippled most of Europe in the 14th century. A commonly held belief was that Jews were secretly poisoning wells, which was resulting in all the deaths LMAO
The Arab dispute with Jews is a territorial one.
You raised valid historical points, and although, europe today, is more jewish than muslim friendly, but how will this exonorate the deep seated hatred that somalis feel have towards jews? what have the jews done to somalis?

if this is a territorial issue between Israel and the palestinians as you rightfully have explored above, let me rmind you that this territory without a single jewish settlement was historically divided between egypyt (Gaza) and Jordan (the west bank including the whole of juresalem) from 1949-1967. They never had the intention of giving back to the palestinians to create for them a viable, much bigger (than what they seek today) state, then why would somalis side with one group against the other? If the agenda of these arab countries (egypt and jordan) was to seize and incorporate palestinian lands into their own terroritories, then why would somalis fall for the corocodile tears of arabs for a palestine state, now? Do you think these corrupt and repressive regimes like saudi arabia want to see this issue solved? If solved, who will they scare their population for being as the boogey-men?

As the author has indicated, if one attempts to locate in a given context/era for the somali hatred towards the jews, then it is fair to say, it was through their admission to the arab league in-exchang for funding the dictatorial regime and the mass issued of somali work related sponsorships in the gulf arabian countries that fostered the indoctrination of hatred towards jews. How else will you explain the somali hatred towards jews?

NB: We will discuss later why "aliens" hate jews, but at the moment let us stick to somali hatred towards jews.
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<quoted text>"US"???? What exactly do you mean by that eeyahow? OH ! The "cultural" somali,I see, keep dreaming boy/girl
ignore him charmotte thehassan abdi is clearly a werido and a backword plonker
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ignore him charmotte thehassan abdi is clearly a werido and a backword plonker
Why are you talking to yourself she-male?
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"We will discuss later why "aliens" hate jews, but at the moment let us stick to somali hatred towards jews."

What's to discuss

I think it's pretty self-explanatory. Generally decent people don't like cheaters, and the Israelis have shown themselves to be cheaters, by expelling people from their homes and continuing a campaign of terror on a weaker population.

It's not rocket science, people just have a hard time accepting Israel, not because they self-identify as a Jewish state, but because they terrorise and displace a weaker community. Nobody likes bullies!

Why do you assume the Somalis would side with the Israelis on this matter, when most of the world supports the Palestinians in this dispute?
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somalis should'nt even hate religious jews but they should be against the atheist jew creation aka zionism imperialism...somalia or somaliland should not have any diplomatic relations with Israel and we shoud boycott their products...Israel is a modern apartheid south africa but with less media coverage.
its funny when people talk about the holocuast or the suffering of south africans under a white racist govermnet but when that kind of stuff happens today no one bats a eye ! so when is the world gonna wake up and realise that Israel is terrorist , racist and rogue state ? when ? in 50 yrs , 100 years ? only time will tell...whatever happens in the dark shall come to light inshallah !
FREE PALESTINE , FREE HUMANITY !
A Jew is actually responsible for sending Nelson Mandela to prison for 27 years. The Jews in South Africa held key positions during apartheid and were at the forefront of exploiting South Africa's mineral wealth while subjugating native South Africans and parading them as freakshow attractions around the world.
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What's to discuss?

I think it's pretty self-explanatory. Generally decent people don't like cheaters, and the Israelis have shown themselves to be cheaters, by expelling people from their homes and continuing a campaign of terror on a weaker population.
following your logic, since there are more suffering "terrorised" somalis and more refugees (expelled from their own homes) than palestinians and also, most somali cities are in ruins compared to palestinian cities, the world should hate the somalis. is that so?
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"Why do you assume the Somalis would side with the Israelis on this matter, when most of the world supports the Palestinians in this dispute?
the arabs (egypt and jordan) have not only occupied but divided up palestinian lands and incorporated it within their own countries without a single jewish settlement including the whole of juresalam from 1949-to-1967. also, they slaughetred many thousands of palestinains. what stopped them to establish a homeland for the palestinians? Their mantra was we will kill and deport every jew and (lead by this mantra) the arabs initiated 2 wars which they lost them badly.

"The term Black September refers to the Jordanian Civil War that began in September 1970 and ended in July of 1971. The conflict was fought between the two major components of the Jordanian population, the Palestinians represented by the Palestine Liberation Organisation under the leadership of Yasser Arafat and the Trans-Jordanians represented by the Jordanian Armed Forces under the leadership of King Hussein.[5] At its core the civil war sought to determine if Jordan would be ruled by the Palestine Liberation Organisation or the Hashemite Monarchy.[6] The war resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.[3] Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_...

"In the early 1990s, more than 400,000 Palestinians were expelled from the Gulf in retaliation for the PLO's support of Saddam Hussein's invasion."

"In Lebanon, thousands of Palestinians have been massacred by Lebanese and Syrians over the past four decades. In addition, the 500,000 Palestinians living in Lebanon have long been subjected to state-sponsored apartheid laws that deny them access to work, education and health services."

"Following the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime, many Iraqis also turned against Palestinians, accusing them of siding with the former dictator. Thousands of Palestinians were forced out of Iraq while others were killed or had their homes torched and ransacked."

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3249/anti-p...

As recently as 1991, thousands of palestinians were murdered by kuwaitis and more than 800,000 were expelled from the gulf region because their support of sadam's invassion of kuwait. Why dont you mention it? there are over 2000,000 arab-israelis who lead better lives than most palestinian refugees in many parts of the arab world, why don't you mention them?

If I sum it up for you the problem with the palestinians, it is that they have always been used as a proxy and for internal political dynamics by arab and iranian states who don't give a damn about them.

somalis should concentrate on their own woes and smartly attempt to woo all those who can help their development and progress for their own people including the israelis and other jews. besides that, palestinians are better fed with better medical care and a better infrastructure than somalis, why not bother about the terrible conditions of your own people?

let us leave israel for a minute and concentrate on jewish hatred. why do somalis hate jews regardless of their nationalities
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Somalis should mind their own busines and focus and advocate for their own ppl that are being enslaved in Ethiopia and Kenya. do ya see the irony here? Who's crying for those ogs women that are being raped/killed in Ethiopia surely not those Arabs in gaza or any Arab country for that matter.
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Charity starts at home ppl. listen to sheik v. he knows his stuff.
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Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
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following your logic, since there are more suffering "terrorised" somalis and more refugees (expelled from their own homes) than palestinians and also, most somali cities are in ruins compared to palestinian cities, the world should hate the somalis. is that so?
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the arabs (egypt and jordan) have not only occupied but divided up palestinian lands and incorporated it within their own countries without a single jewish settlement including the whole of juresalam from 1949-to-1967. also, they slaughetred many thousands of palestinains. what stopped them to establish a homeland for the palestinians? Their mantra was we will kill and deport every jew and (lead by this mantra) the arabs initiated 2 wars which they lost them badly.
"The term Black September refers to the Jordanian Civil War that began in September 1970 and ended in July of 1971. The conflict was fought between the two major components of the Jordanian population, the Palestinians represented by the Palestine Liberation Organisation under the leadership of Yasser Arafat and the Trans-Jordanians represented by the Jordanian Armed Forces under the leadership of King Hussein.[5] At its core the civil war sought to determine if Jordan would be ruled by the Palestine Liberation Organisation or the Hashemite Monarchy.[6] The war resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.[3] Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_...
"In the early 1990s, more than 400,000 Palestinians were expelled from the Gulf in retaliation for the PLO's support of Saddam Hussein's invasion."
"In Lebanon, thousands of Palestinians have been massacred by Lebanese and Syrians over the past four decades. In addition, the 500,000 Palestinians living in Lebanon have long been subjected to state-sponsored apartheid laws that deny them access to work, education and health services."
, many Iraqis also turned against Palestinians, accusing them of siding with the former dictator. Thousands of Palestinians were forced out of Iraq while others were killed or had their homes torched and ransacked."
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3249/anti-p...
As recently as 1991, thousands of palestinians were murdered by kuwaitis and more than 800,000 were expelled from the gulf region because their support of sadam's invassion of kuwait. Why dont you mention it? there are over 2000,000 arab-israelis who lead better lives than most palestinian refugees in many parts of the arab world,?
If I sum it up for you the problem with the palestinians, it is that they have always been used as a proxy and for internal political dynamics by arab and iranian states who don't give a damn about them.
somalis should co own woes and smartly attempt to woo all those who can help their development and progress for their own people including the israelis and other jews. besides that, palestinians are better fed with better medical care and a better infrastructure than somalis, why not bother about the terrible conditions of your own people?
let us leave israel for a minute and concentrate on jewish hatred. why do somalis hate jews regardless of their nationalities
sheik sharmuuto you seem to be confused here, this is not only about palestinians its bigger than that ! its about humanity , were not saying arabs leaders are saints and they should be left alone , NO
we codemn crimes against humanity.
the true criminals are the ones that stay silent and do not adress these atrocities including arab muslims.
sh.sharmuut can you just for one second step outside your athiest ego-bubble and see stuff from a human perspective ? are you capable of emotions or has the godlessness got to you ?
stop playing devils advocate and get some sense into that hollow brain of yours !
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The reason why many in the Muslim world blame Saudi Arabia for the conditions they find themselves in today is through their export of wahabism to these countries that creates an atmosphere of intolerance, hatred and deep divissions among their many sects that used to live side by side without resorting to takfirism and the elimination and assassinations of their sectarian spiritual leaders. Case in point is what is happening today in your tribal enclave in Puntland by the execusions of muslim scolars. It is these ittihad leaders (the fathers of alshabab) who first declared the sufi tari5s to be infidels and their leaders should be eliminated during the ittihad and a.yusuf wars in puntland. karma is a biatch and therefore, it is coming home to roost. It is this saudi doctrine that is despised from ma5rib to mashri5 in the muslim world.
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You raised valid historical points, and although, europe today, is more jewish than muslim friendly, but how will this exonorate the deep seated hatred that somalis feel have towards jews? what have the jews done to somalis?
if this is a territorial issue between Israel and the palestinians as you rightfully have explored above, let me rmind you that this territory without a single jewish settlement was historically divided between egypyt (Gaza) and Jordan (the west bank including the whole of juresalem) from 1949-1967. They never had the intention of giving back to the palestinians to create for them a viable, much bigger (than what they seek today) state, then why would somalis side with one group against the other? If the agenda of these arab countries (egypt and jordan) was to seize and incorporate palestinian lands into their own terroritories, then why would somalis fall for the corocodile tears of arabs for a palestine state, now? Do you think these corrupt and repressive regimes like saudi arabia want to see this issue solved? If solved, who will they scare their population for being as the boogey-men?
As the author has indicated, if one attempts to locate in a given context/era for the somali hatred towards the jews, then it is fair to say, it was through their admission to the arab league in-exchang for funding the dictatorial regime and the mass issued of somali work related sponsorships in the gulf arabian countries that fostered the indoctrination of hatred towards jews. How else will you explain the somali hatred towards jews?
NB: We will discuss later why "aliens" hate jews, but at the moment let us stick to somali hatred towards jews.
you seem to be confused ,its not about jew vs arab or muslim vs jew , its about the struggle against zionists and their collaborators , were are not defending arabs states here , alot of arab rulers who seem all oh so religious are actually zionists ! believe me !.

this is about `apartheid and systamatic genocide that is happening to idegneous palestians on their own land by eastern european invaders just like the native americans and autrallian aborigines !
most western people today will say what the colonial europeans did to those indegneous people was inhumane and savage but its happening infront of their eyes today but somehow they are desensitised to it ! some dont care , some think muslims are terrorist and are sub human and that they deserve it (im pretty sure you agree with them ).

do you know who is far more worse than these savage zionists? its the people who witness these atrocities unfolding but stay silent.

sheikh sharmuut can you for once see from a Human perspective , this atheistic ego of yours is effecting your judgement as a human.
do you even have emotions or has the godlessness stripped that away from you ! stop playing devil's advocate and condemn crimes against humanity ! wether it be done by jews , muslims or christians !
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Did you finish your rants or, should i wait for you because you are still chasing zionists under your bed sheets? let me know when you finish and then, we will explore what's the best interests for the palestinians & it is not only the arab leaders,(alexis de toqueville was right) because people get the government they deserve.

Untill we resume this discussion, keep in mind that the palestinians were always used by arab & persian states for their own interests and also, somalis are more poorer, sicker, hungrier, more victimised (by their own), helpless and live in abject poverty than the palestinians. Before you act like the re-incarnation of hugo chavez on this board, listen to Reason that, charity starts at home.
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Somali people have no real reason to hate jews. The only reason why a somali person would be hostile towards jews is because his/her arab masters said so.
Arab masters LMAO

Why would you hate if Somalia is being helped by arabs to get better, while ur sh-thole west african and you apes looking like canibbals are getting no help but the whole world is robbing them.

Listen I understand you suffer from mental retardation but you need to understand what you are.

Back in the days we used ship off the apes to the middle east and europian market and give cloths to your kings for supplying us with more apes to sell. We probably shipped off your ancestor to middle east from from slave trade market in somalia.

That could be the reason your pissed.

You wondering why are the somali people are the only people in africa that used to slave us besides arabs in arabia and the white men?!

Don't piss me off and we aint got no masters, if there has to be a master then we are your masters you apes.

And Israel is hates you apes aswell for "unexplained reasons". When everybody else hates Israel! Its peak
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Did you finish your rants or, should i wait for you because you are still chasing zionists under your bed sheets? let me know when you finish and then, we will explore what's the best interests for the palestinians & it is not only the arab leaders,(alexis de toqueville was right) because people get the government they deserve.
Untill we resume this discussion, keep in mind that the palestinians were always used by arab & persian states for their own interests and also, somalis are more poorer, sicker, hungrier, more victimised (by their own), helpless and live in abject poverty than the palestinians. Before you act like the re-incarnation of hugo chavez on this board, listen to Reason that, charity starts at home.
why are you avoiding discussion? is because your humanity itself is in question here ? and why is it when people talk sense and want to honour human life you ppl always call them 'HUGO CHAVEZ'? Hugo was a great leader but at the end of the day he was a man , what im talking about is an idea...and that idea is a world were people live in equality free from zionist oppression.
i guess people like you are'nt capable of processing that thought in to your head ! and pls dont reply to me i will not reply back
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