Why Somali take Arab side over Bantu? Arabs hate us!

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Somali King

Belfast, UK

#1 Mar 18, 2012
Brothers and Sisters are you blind? Arabs
hate us!, and we all know it they treat us
like dirt..the biggest mistake Somalia ever
could have done was join the Arab league they
do NOTHING for us and look down on us, Arabs
and Europeans have tried to destroy Somali
and our culture, just look what Arabs do to our
Women. Yet you are the same Somalis who claim
we are mixed with them? are you stupid? how can
Somalis be mixed with Arabs when Arab isnt even
a race it is a culture and a people who are "mixed"
"Arab" is young compared to us, We Somali are an ancient people we have always been here along with
other Horners, Do people not understand that Somali
for thousands of years have been described the same way? the ancient greeks and romans described us and other Horners the EXACT same way we look today, so how can we be mixed if the Arab influence came later? Bantus come in here and disrespect us but they are mere trolls, I dont even think there Bantu I think they are white people trying to divide us. We Somali are African
and Bantus are our Brothers and Sisers, they care
more about us then any Arab. Even that knuckle head bantu rapper 50 cent is trying to help Somalia I have relatives who have spoken to me about his "sk project" to feed Africans especially Horners, when has any Arab ever tried to help our people like that?..
Wake up, Arabs dont care about us, and whether you like it or not it will always come down to the color of our skin and how we look
and Bantu's relate with us..Everyone else looks at
us different, they look at us like we are dirt or
aliens, at least our other African Brothers and Sisters accept us. We and ethiopians are the forefathers of the original black/african race
remember this, we and the san bushmen are the most
ancient of all human groups. AFRICA UNITE!
Somali King

Belfast, UK

#2 Mar 18, 2012
im sorry if it is to long to read, but this
is important and something ALL Somali need to
understand
ncc

Toronto, Canada

#3 Mar 18, 2012
it's actually the nilotic people and san bushmen who have the oldest dna in the world (paternally they are haplo A)

but yea I se wat your saying

a lot of you Somalis do look down on other Africans that is why u have a bad reputation

not only do u look down on us, but u couple it with Arab worship smh

anyways, we don't care
Hannay

Birmingham, UK

#4 Mar 18, 2012
Yeah well I don't care.

Since: Aug 10

Compton, CA

#5 Mar 18, 2012
ncc wrote:
it's actually the nilotic people and san bushmen who have the oldest dna in the world (paternally they are haplo A)
but yea I se wat your saying
a lot of you Somalis do look down on other Africans that is why u have a bad reputation
not only do u look down on us, but u couple it with Arab worship smh
anyways, we don't care
which Somali worships an arab? we worship god and have same religion and thats it, those who say we worship arabs are usually but hurt black folks who spew bulsht to make themselfs feel better because there race used to worship whites and was slaves to them and make bull craps about somals worshipping arabs, there isnt even one proof of that, infact arabs are the most targeted minority in somalia after war, so your information has no base.. Somalis look down on africans? the same way could be said the other way. Kenyan government killed 5000 Degodiye hawiye tribesmen in Northen Kenya? for what?. Somali indigneous are treated second class citizens in northern kenya. Somali refugees are burned in some african countries and are arrested. South Africans have been killing alot of Somali people especially somali business men. You must ask yourself why somalis hate bantus.. you do realise the Bantu Tribesmen killed every race they came across? there was over 10 Million Khoi San in Southern africa when bantu tribes like xhosa and zulu came they destroyed there numbers to as little as 100,000. Bantu Tribes are attacking and killing nilotes for centuries over terrotory. Bantus have attacked pygmies also and ivaded their land. till this day Kikuyus in kenya have been killing Masaai and Luo in ellection. your the type of idiot that thinks Because one is dark they cannot be racist to one that is lighter. lol your pathetic.

Since: Aug 10

Compton, CA

#6 Mar 18, 2012
Beside we don't like Arabs either, liking a bantu or arab is a personal prefrence, i prefer blacks and even habeshas over arabs, sometimes the closest and most reliable people are actually the Ethiopians when we step outside of horn of africa our problem sort of die out and we unite under a horn of african flag. and ur not a somali, u called 50 cent a bantu, we somalis well know who is bantu and who is not. I like the black americans here in l.a. county never have a problem with them, even the trouble makers and gang bangers dont waste their time with Somali vs black , they have bigger fishes to worry about like rival black gangs or mexican gangbangers that live on another street that will kill them if they seen them on their immiginary turf. with threats like that you cant think about fighting with your own neighbours because they come from a different country because your just going to increase your enemy,somalis and blacks usually work as one if they both where raised on the same neighbourhood.. Somalis and Blacks trouble makers/gangs in canada, minnesota and Uk have to much safety and time in their hands to fight someone over because they look different.

“Be positive! Be somali!”

Since: Mar 12

Gothenburg, Sweden (Somalia)

#7 Mar 18, 2012
I don't care, today is today, i am neither at the arabs or bantus side, who said we had to choose between them anyway?
Somali King

Manchester, UK

#9 Mar 19, 2012
ncc wrote:
it's actually the nilotic people and san bushmen who have the oldest dna in the world (paternally they are haplo A)
but yea I se wat your saying
a lot of you Somalis do look down on other Africans that is why u have a bad reputation
not only do u look down on us, but u couple it with Arab worship smh
anyways, we don't care
Ethiopians/Bushmen are the oldest group I believe we came
from the Ethiopian hundreds of thousands of years ago, and
your right to a certain point, Somalis need to stop kissin
Arab ass, they hate us but for the most part us Somali know
who we are anyway, all i will say is somali need to stop
thinking there "arab" or anything other then full somali
or african
Somali King

Manchester, UK

#10 Mar 19, 2012
SomaliFromLA wrote:
Beside we don't like Arabs either, liking a bantu or arab is a personal prefrence, i prefer blacks and even habeshas over arabs, sometimes the closest and most reliable people are actually the Ethiopians when we step outside of horn of africa our problem sort of die out and we unite under a horn of african flag. and ur not a somali, u called 50 cent a bantu, we somalis well know who is bantu and who is not. I like the black americans here in l.a. county never have a problem with them, even the trouble makers and gang bangers dont waste their time with Somali vs black , they have bigger fishes to worry about like rival black gangs or mexican gangbangers that live on another street that will kill them if they seen them on their immiginary turf. with threats like that you cant think about fighting with your own neighbours because they come from a different country because your just going to increase your enemy,somalis and blacks usually work as one if they both where raised on the same neighbourhood.. Somalis and Blacks trouble makers/gangs in canada, minnesota and Uk have to much safety and time in their hands to fight someone over because they look different.
Who you talking to about im not Somali?, im the most
passionate Somali in here when I labelled 50 cent a bantu
im talking in physical aspects not cultural aspects, you
say im not somali yet claim your from compton C.A? lmao...ok
my point is, is that somali SHOULD NEVER trust arabs there
not us.

“You Have Died Corfield!!”

Since: Feb 12

Dervishes Were Thunderbolts!

#11 Mar 19, 2012
Looooooooooool Somlais Worsip Arab??
Considering our long history of trade with them you would think we intermarried lol.
Fact is somalis are a homogeneous and if you think they treat arabs any better you in for a shock

Since: Mar 12

Kent, WA

#12 Mar 19, 2012
this is a bit retarded who ever said Somalis worship Arabs... but i agree with you... Somalis need to stop hating on the Bantu community and also other Africans it just makes Somalis look retarded...
123abc

London, UK

#13 Mar 19, 2012
proud muslimah wrote:
this is a bit retarded who ever said Somalis worship Arabs... but i agree with you... Somalis need to stop hating on the Bantu community and also other Africans it just makes Somalis look retarded...
dude bantu hate somalis more then somalis hate them that's the truth you're just too naive to see it.
Somali King

Manchester, UK

#14 Mar 19, 2012
123abc wrote:
<quoted text>
dude bantu hate somalis more then somalis hate them that's the truth you're just too naive to see it.
I dont agree, Im not fooled by the bantu trolls in here
most Bantus accept us. We dont need them to accept us,
but im saying they understand us while Arabs and Pakistani
just look down on us and want to fight us especially here
in the uk, and even Somalis in other countries.. have you
not heard about how Arabs treat our women in yemen and other
arab countries? you would be disgusted brother i just dont
trust them, like i said we should have never joined the arab
league..still to this day no arab country wants to help us
while other african countries are growing because of there
unity we should have stayed with africa.
ncc

Toronto, Canada

#15 Mar 19, 2012
SomaliFromLA wrote:
<quoted text>which Somali worships an arab? we worship god and have same religion and thats it, those who say we worship arabs are usually but hurt black folks who spew bulsht to make themselfs feel better because there race used to worship whites and was slaves to them and make bull craps about somals worshipping arabs, there isnt even one proof of that, infact arabs are the most targeted minority in somalia after war, so your information has no base.. Somalis look down on africans? the same way could be said the other way. Kenyan government killed 5000 Degodiye hawiye tribesmen in Northen Kenya? for what?. Somali indigneous are treated second class citizens in northern kenya. Somali refugees are burned in some african countries and are arrested. South Africans have been killing alot of Somali people especially somali business men. You must ask yourself why somalis hate bantus.. you do realise the Bantu Tribesmen killed every race they came across? there was over 10 Million Khoi San in Southern africa when bantu tribes like xhosa and zulu came they destroyed there numbers to as little as 100,000. Bantu Tribes are attacking and killing nilotes for centuries over terrotory. Bantus have attacked pygmies also and ivaded their land. till this day Kikuyus in kenya have been killing Masaai and Luo in ellection. your the type of idiot that thinks Because one is dark they cannot be racist to one that is lighter. lol your pathetic.
Somalis worship Arabs indirectly (many times without even knowing it). Even though you won't admit it out of ego, it is crystal clear to those on the outside looking in. The Islamic religion is Arabic in origin. Here are some facts:

1. 99% of Somalis identify as being "Muslims"

2. The Islamic god is Allah

3. Allah is an Arabic word (not a Somali word)

4. Arabs created the religion of Islam in the Arabian desert for Arabs

5. Since Arabs created Islam, Arab culture is going to be prevalent within any and all aspects of the religion. Culture such as (the ways of doing things, traditions, customs) and Arab aesthetics such as (facial hair/long beards, robes,

Moving on,
Bantus in Somalian society are looked down upon to the extent that papers and books have been written on it.

see:
"The Somali Bantu: Their History and Culture" by Dan Van Lehman and Omar Eno

as well as:
that book on Jareers "Hard Hair" or whatever it was called

Somalis are not being burned or targetted exclusively, lose the victim complex. The only place of recent memory I have heard of Somali persecution is in South Africa and like I said it was exclusive because they were targetted all Africans who they saw as foreigners. Nigerians, Zambians and Zimbabweans were also targetted in attacks so your being disingenous by trying to make it seem as though it was only Somalis.

"Bantu Tribesman"? how many times does it have to be explained to you guys that Bantu is not a culture, it's a language group. Do you go around labelling people "Indo-Europeans"? of course not, Bantu is a language group comparable to the way Indo-European is a language group, there are thousands of ethnic groups and cultures that encompass it.

Not only are they a language group with hundreds and possibly thousands of ethnic groups and tribes, another thing to note is that they are not uniform.

to wrap up:

1. Bantu is not a race
2. Bantu is not a tribe
3. Bantu is not a culture

lastly, the Khoi/San Bushmen of Southern Africa never in human history ever numbered 10 million people. That was a ridiculous statement to make. 10 million hunter gatherers....you really believe that? I would so love to see what source you got that from...but you don't have one because you pulled that number out your ass.

I am not commenting on the political violence in Kenya as I don't know the circumstances of it, nor do I care. Kenyans should elaborate on that.
ncc

Toronto, Canada

#16 Mar 19, 2012
SomaliFromLA wrote:
<quoted text>which Somali worships an arab? we worship god and have same religion and thats it, those who say we worship arabs are usually but hurt black folks who spew bulsht to make themselfs feel better because there race used to worship whites and was slaves to them and make bull craps about somals worshipping arabs, there isnt even one proof of that, infact arabs are the most targeted minority in somalia after war, so your information has no base.. Somalis look down on africans? the same way could be said the other way. Kenyan government killed 5000 Degodiye hawiye tribesmen in Northen Kenya? for what?. Somali indigneous are treated second class citizens in northern kenya. Somali refugees are burned in some african countries and are arrested. South Africans have been killing alot of Somali people especially somali business men. You must ask yourself why somalis hate bantus.. you do realise the Bantu Tribesmen killed every race they came across? there was over 10 Million Khoi San in Southern africa when bantu tribes like xhosa and zulu came they destroyed there numbers to as little as 100,000. Bantu Tribes are attacking and killing nilotes for centuries over terrotory. Bantus have attacked pygmies also and ivaded their land. till this day Kikuyus in kenya have been killing Masaai and Luo in ellection. your the type of idiot that thinks Because one is dark they cannot be racist to one that is lighter. lol your pathetic.
Somalis worship Arabs indirectly (many times without even knowing it). Even though you won't admit it out of ego, it is crystal clear to those on the outside looking in. The Islamic religion is Arabic in origin.

Here are some facts:

1. 99% of Somalis identify as being "Muslims"

2. The Islamic god is Allah

3. Allah is an Arabic word (not a Somali word)

4. Arabs created the religion of Islam in the Arabian desert for Arabs

5. Since Arabs created Islam, Arab culture is going to be prevalent within any and all aspects of the religion. Culture such as (the ways of doing things, traditions, customs) and Arab aesthetics such as (facial hair/long beards, robes,

Moving on,
Bantus in Somalian society are looked down upon to the extent that papers and books have been written on it.

see:
"The Somali Bantu: Their History and Culture" by Dan Van Lehman and Omar Eno

as well as that book on Jareers "Hard Hair" or whatever it was called

Somalis are not being burned or targetted exclusively, lose the victim complex. The only place of recent memory I have heard of Somali persecution is in South Africa and like I said it was exclusive because they were targetted all Africans who they saw as foreigners. Nigerians, Zambians and Zimbabweans were also targetted in attacks so your being disingenous by trying to make it seem as though it was only Somalis.

"Bantu Tribesman"? how many times does it have to be explained to you guys that Bantu is not a culture, it's a language group. Do you go around labelling people "Indo-Europeans"? of course not, Bantu is a language group comparable to the way Indo-European is a language group, there are thousands of ethnic groups and cultures that encompass it.

Not only are they a language group with hundreds and possibly thousands of ethnic groups and tribes, another thing to note is that they are not uniform.

to wrap up:

1. Bantu is not a race
2. Bantu is not a tribe
3. Bantu is not a culture

lastly, the Khoi/San Bushmen of Southern Africa never in human history ever numbered 10 million people. That was a ridiculous statement to make. 10 million hunter gatherers....you really believe that? I would so love to see what source you got that from...but you don't have one because you pulled that number out your ass.

I am not commenting on the political violence in Kenya as I don't know the circumstances of it, nor do I care. Kenyans should elaborate on that.

“You Have Died Corfield!!”

Since: Feb 12

Dervishes Were Thunderbolts!

#17 Mar 19, 2012
ncc wrote:
<quoted text>
Somalis worship Arabs indirectly (many times without even knowing it). Even though you won't admit it out of ego, it is crystal clear to those on the outside looking in. The Islamic religion is Arabic in origin.
Here are some facts:
1. 99% of Somalis identify as being "Muslims"
2. The Islamic god is Allah
3. Allah is an Arabic word (not a Somali word)
4. Arabs created the religion of Islam in the Arabian desert for Arabs
5. Since Arabs created Islam, Arab culture is going to be prevalent within any and all aspects of the religion. Culture such as (the ways of doing things, traditions, customs) and Arab aesthetics such as (facial hair/long beards, robes,
Moving on,
Bantus in Somalian society are looked down upon to the extent that papers and books have been written on it.
see:
"The Somali Bantu: Their History and Culture" by Dan Van Lehman and Omar Eno
as well as that book on Jareers "Hard Hair" or whatever it was called
Somalis are not being burned or targetted exclusively, lose the victim complex. The only place of recent memory I have heard of Somali persecution is in South Africa and like I said it was exclusive because they were targetted all Africans who they saw as foreigners. Nigerians, Zambians and Zimbabweans were also targetted in attacks so your being disingenous by trying to make it seem as though it was only Somalis.
"Bantu Tribesman"? how many times does it have to be explained to you guys that Bantu is not a culture, it's a language group. Do you go around labelling people "Indo-Europeans"? of course not, Bantu is a language group comparable to the way Indo-European is a language group, there are thousands of ethnic groups and cultures that encompass it.
Not only are they a language group with hundreds and possibly thousands of ethnic groups and tribes, another thing to note is that they are not uniform.
to wrap up:
1. Bantu is not a race
2. Bantu is not a tribe
3. Bantu is not a culture
lastly, the Khoi/San Bushmen of Southern Africa never in human history ever numbered 10 million people. That was a ridiculous statement to make. 10 million hunter gatherers....you really believe that? I would so love to see what source you got that from...but you don't have one because you pulled that number out your ass.
I am not commenting on the political violence in Kenya as I don't know the circumstances of it, nor do I care. Kenyans should elaborate on that.
Well youre stupid you wouldnt know that somalis were muslims as long as islam is itself fact.

Somalis became predominantly muslim while pagan arabs were still persecuting muslim converts in arabia Fact.

Somalis established the first islamic state in the world Fact.

And for the almost extinct khisan you can blame the bantus for wiping them out
hooyo

Basel, Switzerland

#18 Mar 19, 2012
Somali King wrote:
Brothers and Sisters are you blind? Arabs
hate us!, and we all know it they treat us
like dirt..the biggest mistake Somalia ever
could have done was join the Arab league they
do NOTHING for us and look down on us, Arabs
and Europeans have tried to destroy Somali
and our culture, just look what Arabs do to our
Women. Yet you are the same Somalis who claim
we are mixed with them? are you stupid? how can
Somalis be mixed with Arabs when Arab isnt even
a race it is a culture and a people who are "mixed"
"Arab" is young compared to us, We Somali are an ancient people we have always been here along with
other Horners, Do people not understand that Somali
for thousands of years have been described the same way? the ancient greeks and romans described us and other Horners the EXACT same way we look today, so how can we be mixed if the Arab influence came later? Bantus come in here and disrespect us but they are mere trolls, I dont even think there Bantu I think they are white people trying to divide us. We Somali are African
and Bantus are our Brothers and Sisers, they care
more about us then any Arab. Even that knuckle head bantu rapper 50 cent is trying to help Somalia I have relatives who have spoken to me about his "sk project" to feed Africans especially Horners, when has any Arab ever tried to help our people like that?..
Wake up, Arabs dont care about us, and whether you like it or not it will always come down to the color of our skin and how we look
and Bantu's relate with us..Everyone else looks at
us different, they look at us like we are dirt or
aliens, at least our other African Brothers and Sisters accept us. We and ethiopians are the forefathers of the original black/african race
remember this, we and the san bushmen are the most
ancient of all human groups. AFRICA UNITE!
is you who hate arabs and eurepians we dont hate them so dont bring you hate on us

Since: Mar 11

Angered, Sweden

#19 Mar 19, 2012
ncc wrote:
<quoted text>
Somalis worship Arabs indirectly (many times without even knowing it). Even though you won't admit it out of ego, it is crystal clear to those on the outside looking in. The Islamic religion is Arabic in origin.
Here are some facts:
1. 99% of Somalis identify as being "Muslims"
2. The Islamic god is Allah
3. Allah is an Arabic word (not a Somali word)
4. Arabs created the religion of Islam in the Arabian desert for Arabs
5. Since Arabs created Islam, Arab culture is going to be prevalent within any and all aspects of the religion. Culture such as (the ways of doing things, traditions, customs) and Arab aesthetics such as (facial hair/long beards, robes,
Moving on,
Bantus in Somalian society are looked down upon to the extent that papers and books have been written on it.
see:
"The Somali Bantu: Their History and Culture" by Dan Van Lehman and Omar Eno
as well as that book on Jareers "Hard Hair" or whatever it was called
Somalis are not being burned or targetted exclusively, lose the victim complex. The only place of recent memory I have heard of Somali persecution is in South Africa and like I said it was exclusive because they were targetted all Africans who they saw as foreigners. Nigerians, Zambians and Zimbabweans were also targetted in attacks so your being disingenous by trying to make it seem as though it was only Somalis.
"Bantu Tribesman"? how many times does it have to be explained to you guys that Bantu is not a culture, it's a language group. Do you go around labelling people "Indo-Europeans"? of course not, Bantu is a language group comparable to the way Indo-European is a language group, there are thousands of ethnic groups and cultures that encompass it.
Not only are they a language group with hundreds and possibly thousands of ethnic groups and tribes, another thing to note is that they are not uniform.
to wrap up:
1. Bantu is not a race
2. Bantu is not a tribe
3. Bantu is not a culture
lastly, the Khoi/San Bushmen of Southern Africa never in human history ever numbered 10 million people. That was a ridiculous statement to make. 10 million hunter gatherers....you really believe that? I would so love to see what source you got that from...but you don't have one because you pulled that number out your ass.
I am not commenting on the political violence in Kenya as I don't know the circumstances of it, nor do I care. Kenyans should elaborate on that.
I dont know where religion takes place in this debate.Since 90 procent off the worlds muslims are non arab.And islam was sent to the whole mankind not any certain race.Your right about that somalis need to stop seeing other africans diffrently but rather all "people of africa".

Since: Mar 11

Angered, Sweden

#20 Mar 19, 2012
We dont have to choice between being "muslim" or "african" I think somali people get confused about those two.But we should rather respect all humans without comprimising our values and culture as somalis.
ash-shahbaa_x

Lanark, UK

#21 Mar 19, 2012
Somali King wrote:
Brothers and Sisters are you blind? Arabs
hate us!, and we all know it they treat us
like dirt..the biggest mistake Somalia ever
could have done was join the Arab league they
do NOTHING for us and look down on us, Arabs
and Europeans have tried to destroy Somali
and our culture, just look what Arabs do to our
Women. Yet you are the same Somalis who claim
we are mixed with them? are you stupid? how can
Somalis be mixed with Arabs when Arab isnt even
a race it is a culture and a people who are "mixed"
"Arab" is young compared to us, We Somali are an ancient people we have always been here along with
other Horners, Do people not understand that Somali
for thousands of years have been described the same way? the ancient greeks and romans described us and other Horners the EXACT same way we look today, so how can we be mixed if the Arab influence came later? Bantus come in here and disrespect us but they are mere trolls, I dont even think there Bantu I think they are white people trying to divide us. We Somali are African
and Bantus are our Brothers and Sisers, they care
more about us then any Arab. Even that knuckle head bantu rapper 50 cent is trying to help Somalia I have relatives who have spoken to me about his "sk project" to feed Africans especially Horners, when has any Arab ever tried to help our people like that?..
Wake up, Arabs dont care about us, and whether you like it or not it will always come down to the color of our skin and how we look
and Bantu's relate with us..Everyone else looks at
us different, they look at us like we are dirt or
aliens, at least our other African Brothers and Sisters accept us. We and ethiopians are the forefathers of the original black/african race
remember this, we and the san bushmen are the most
ancient of all human groups. AFRICA UNITE!
what is with all the generalisation in this post? i am half somali half arab and I have never experienced any of this 'hate' you are mentioning. ugh, please stop making false accusations based on your subjective experiences. so you find one black 'rapper' who supports Somalia, do you really think arabs didnt donate? andd did you hear about that palestinian child who shot and in his hand were some pennies, and when they asked his friend what the money was for: he said 'he was saving it for his brothers in Somalia'.
hm, I know most Arab countries have not has actively helped Somalia, but tbh the arab league as a whole is a mess, they never even helped Iraq and have done nothing productive in syria. and tbh Somalis feel closer to Arab because of religion, culture & values. I'm sorry but what do Somalis share with say Ugandians?

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