Since: Feb 10

Orlando, FL

#21 May 21, 2010
Warsame wrote:
<quoted text>
Wallahi that's typical Somali behavior denial in the face of truth. I'm personally not a genealogist but the people who conducted this study are. Is it such a hard pill to swallow that we aren't black? shesh.
Oh the shame of being you... It must be a lonely place to see white people and want so badly to be like them, that you indulge in thier perception of what they want you to be...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#22 May 21, 2010
Eterro wrote:
<quoted text>Oh the shame of being you... It must be a lonely place to see white people and want so badly to be like them, that you indulge in thier perception of what they want you to be...
Must be nice saying that and living in a white country too.

“turn back the hands of time”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#23 May 21, 2010
Warsame wrote:
<quoted text>
Wallahi that's typical Somali behavior denial in the face of truth. I'm personally not a genealogist but the people who conducted this study are. Is it such a hard pill to swallow that we aren't black? shesh.
Well maybe you should go find those genealogist and have them test you, then you could have in writing that you are 15% arab (whatever arab now means) and I´m sure you would die a happy man. LOL
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#24 May 22, 2010
Warsame wrote:
<quoted text>
Wallahi that's typical Somali behavior denial in the face of truth. I'm personally not a genealogist but the people who conducted this study are. Is it such a hard pill to swallow that we aren't black? shesh.
What denial are you accusing him off??. Thats an avergae out of let say 4-5ppl. and somali people are more then 4-5. there are about 15Million lol not only 4-5 somalis in the world. there isnt even 4-5 somali clans in Somalia.
the statistic does not Say. 15%arab 5%black. dont change it.
it says 5%Sub-saharan and 15%Euroasian

that 15% cud be Turkish,it cud be greek,cud be greek it cud even be spanish. So stop lying about 15%arab u cant check a persons blood if they are arab. an arab is mainly a person speaking arabic or an arabic dialect. most Somalis dont speak arabic. Somalis have different culture to arabs.

and as for the 5% Sub-saharan. that cud be a Dinka, it cud be Zulu or even a Twa Pygmy. doesnt mention What tribe.

and as for cushitc people let me give u a lesson. or show u pic of cushites.

http://www.erinandjeff.net/wp-content/uploads... an arbore cushite..

http://www.fotobank.ru/img/JW00-6071.jpg... a dassanech cushite

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/287364613... a Konso Cushite.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4263600... a afar Cushite

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpr... Somali Cushite

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/224152265... a Borana Oromo Cushite.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/376532186... Gabbra Cushite.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/379862811... rendille cushite.
In the eyes of white man u are all the same. Cushite arnt always Somali looking people, light skinned, soft hair. there are alot of cushite group across ethiopia being dark and hard haired. even the Boranas from Kenya u mention are Dark.

See what i mean cushitic people could look anything... the two first tribes language is closer to us then the so "called Afar and Oromos" rendille-Boni-Dassanech-Somali -Arbore-Konso(undecided) are in the same speaking branch as somalis. Oromo and afar is not even Omo-tana branch. So if u wana classify people in to bantu spekaing etcc... then ull have to classify Somalis as same with arbore and Dassanech and rendille.

You Choose, Stick to One Arrow warsame. dont take what u want and leave what u dont want.

im pretty sure the Cameroon people are annoyed when they classifed as same group as Zulus who they leave Extremely far away from each other. So Bantu is Offensive to many africans nowadays.
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#25 May 22, 2010
Want more info on (black) people
Khoi-san people
http://www.francesbaard.gov.za/tourism/imgs/p... and http://www.nma.gov.au/shared/libraries/images...
Indian people
http://www.waidev2.com/php/IMAGES/HC_ThisDayI...

Australian abroginis.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4FSfQ67Q1RI/SH_TECv...
and
http://theunexplainedmysteries.com/images/abo...

Nilotic speakin people.
http://www.safarigifts.com/shopcart/images/in...

Tutsi:
http://www.everyculture.com/images/ctc_01_img...

Amhara:
http://www.ethiodemographyandhealth.org/AMHAR...

Im not against anything. im just saying white people categorise all these people as being Black. wen they look

Melanesian people of oceania:
http://www.south-images.com/vanuatu/vanuatu-k...
and and http://www.newswise.com/images/uploads/2008/0... and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
tese melanesians in ocenia continent e.g vanuatu,new caledonia,Papua New Guinea etc... are Naturall haired blonde.

Black differ alot. i mean alot. We shud be proud and be Pan-African/Black people. We are more diverse then white people.

Black can differ alot.

“aqoon la'aani waa iftiin la'aa”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#26 May 22, 2010
LearnTheTruth wrote:
Want more info on (black) people
Khoi-san people
http://www.francesbaard.gov.za/tourism/imgs/p... and http://www.nma.gov.au/shared/libraries/images...
Indian people
http://www.waidev2.com/php/IMAGES/HC_ThisDayI...
Australian abroginis.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4FSfQ67Q1RI/SH_TECv...
and
http://theunexplainedmysteries.com/images/abo...
Nilotic speakin people.
http://www.safarigifts.com/shopcart/images/in...
Tutsi:
http://www.everyculture.com/images/ctc_01_img...
Amhara:
http://www.ethiodemographyandhealth.org/AMHAR...
Im not against anything. im just saying white people categorise all these people as being Black. wen they look
Melanesian people of oceania:
http://www.south-images.com/vanuatu/vanuatu-k...
and and http://www.newswise.com/images/uploads/2008/0... and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
tese melanesians in ocenia continent e.g vanuatu,new caledonia,Papua New Guinea etc... are Naturall haired blonde.
Black differ alot. i mean alot. We shud be proud and be Pan-African/Black people. We are more diverse then white people.
Black can differ alot.
somalis are proud to be arab slaves.. they also have a big heart for camels.

btw.cushitic is not a race

Since: Feb 10

Orlando, FL

#27 May 22, 2010
Warsame wrote:
<quoted text>
Must be nice saying that and living in a white country too.
Trust me, I know my ancestry is infused with African, European, and Indian.. I don't dispute what you are saying, it's mostly the context of which you are stating it.

Since: Feb 10

Orlando, FL

#28 May 22, 2010
Zemnegede-Yehuda wrote:
<quoted text>
somalis are proud to be arab slaves.. they also have a big heart for camels.
btw.cushitic is not a race
TROLL ALERT
raindrop

United States

#29 May 22, 2010
learn the truth ur right on about many of your points black is a word used to denigrate..races were invented by whitey as ways to create division coon and those other ppl who came up with the class sytem were fools and chiekh anta diop proved them wrong

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#30 May 22, 2010
LearnTheTruth wrote:
<quoted text>What denial are you accusing him off??. Thats an avergae out of let say 4-5ppl. and somali people are more then 4-5. there are about 15Million lol not only 4-5 somalis in the world. there isnt even 4-5 somali clans in Somalia.
the statistic does not Say. 15%arab 5%black. dont change it.
it says 5%Sub-saharan and 15%Euroasian
that 15% cud be Turkish,it cud be greek,cud be greek it cud even be spanish. So stop lying about 15%arab u cant check a persons blood if they are arab. an arab is mainly a person speaking arabic or an arabic dialect. most Somalis dont speak arabic. Somalis have different culture to arabs.
and as for the 5% Sub-saharan. that cud be a Dinka, it cud be Zulu or even a Twa Pygmy. doesnt mention What tribe.
and as for cushitc people let me give u a lesson. or show u pic of cushites.
http://www.erinandjeff.net/wp-content/uploads... an arbore cushite..
http://www.fotobank.ru/img/JW00-6071.jpg... a dassanech cushite
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/287364613... a Konso Cushite.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4263600... a afar Cushite
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpr... Somali Cushite
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/224152265... a Borana Oromo Cushite.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/376532186... Gabbra Cushite.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/379862811... rendille cushite.
In the eyes of white man u are all the same. Cushite arnt always Somali looking people, light skinned, soft hair. there are alot of cushite group across ethiopia being dark and hard haired. even the Boranas from Kenya u mention are Dark.
See what i mean cushitic people could look anything... the two first tribes language is closer to us then the so "called Afar and Oromos" rendille-Boni-Dassanech-Somali -Arbore-Konso(undecided) are in the same speaking branch as somalis. Oromo and afar is not even Omo-tana branch. So if u wana classify people in to bantu spekaing etcc... then ull have to classify Somalis as same with arbore and Dassanech and rendille.
You Choose, Stick to One Arrow warsame. dont take what u want and leave what u dont want.
im pretty sure the Cameroon people are annoyed when they classifed as same group as Zulus who they leave Extremely far away from each other. So Bantu is Offensive to many africans nowadays.
school the fool! Ignorance is a disease!!!!
Wild Fire

Djibouti

#31 May 23, 2010
Next time you have a shower look in the mirror, if your butt is of a dark colour, brown and whatever variations of brown you can come up with.....you are black...A black African... Sorry to tell you Somali are blacks or it would like saying Russian are not whites....they are Russians only...how stupid is that....

Let me ask you a question are black Omani's blacks or Arabs?

Since: Feb 10

Orlando, FL

#32 May 23, 2010
Wild Fire wrote:
Next time you have a shower look in the mirror, if your butt is of a dark colour, brown and whatever variations of brown you can come up with.....you are black...A black African... Sorry to tell you Somali are blacks or it would like saying Russian are not whites....they are Russians only...how stupid is that....
Let me ask you a question are black Omani's blacks or Arabs?
Looking in the mirror trying to see if my azz is black..
Wild Fire

Djibouti

#33 May 23, 2010
Eterro wrote:
<quoted text>Looking in the mirror trying to see if my azz is black..
LMAO....Don't come back and tell me you are Russian..LOL...

Since: Feb 10

Orlando, FL

#34 May 23, 2010
Wild Fire wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO....Don't come back and tell me you are Russian..LOL...
Wild one more time.. whats the skype name?
ONLF

Sunshine, Australia

#35 May 23, 2010
Define Black first
Azania

Lakeland, FL

#36 May 23, 2010
The Original Black African Arabs of Arabia (Part 1)

By:

Ogu Eji-Ofo Annu

“If one understood Arab Culture it is immediately apparent that Blackness is highly cherished conceptually and in reality. In Arab culture the best camel is the black one the best Fig is the blackest, the best eyes are black, the best olives are black, the most beautiful rock is the Black Kaaba. Any Bedouin Arab that is asked his color, would undoubtedly respond Asmar or Aswad which means Black/Brown. No Arab ever describes himself as Bidan which means White.”
Azania

Lakeland, FL

#37 May 23, 2010
Who are the Arabs:

In today’s world, one is seducively led by the racist western media to believe that the Arabs of Arabia and Africa represent a peculiar phenotype with all other non-conforming types being somewhat alien to that concept. In this way they impose a certain central Asian phenotype as the “racial Arab” and the almost ubiquitous Black Arabs of the modern times as either descendants of slaves or immigrants.

In this way, they attempt to disconnect the linkage between the ancient Kushitic Black Arabs globally celebrated in antiquity (now reclassified as some “caucasoid”“semitics”) and their Kushitic African roots. This article is therefore another blow against the citadel of falsehood erected by the western intelligensia used to discourage, dis-empower dissipate and diffuse the energy of the Black nation. Again one notes and deplores the unrelenting effort by non-continental peoples to appropriate the history and the achievements of brilliant Black African luminaries as their own.

Much confusion attends the word “Arabs”, because it has not always been used with rigourous consistency. Moreover, in the wake of the global dominance of the Arab culture and Islamic political power in the between 7AD and 14 AD, the number of Arabs increased exponentially by the addition of many non Arab Arabized people, because acculturation and assimilation were delibrately fostered by state policy
Azania

Lakeland, FL

#38 May 23, 2010
Today, the word Arabs does not strictly imply or designate any known racial category of people. It is an ethnic identification that has several aspect including liguistics, politics and genealogy. Its meaning is nuanced depending on the particular context.

As an ethnic identity, an Arab is someone who considers himself to be an Arab regardless of racial or ethnic origin. This definition encompasses many Africans, Indians, Indonesians and Chinese who describe themselves as Arabs.

Usually the first language of persons who claim to be Arab is Arabic. There are over 200 million people worldwide whose first language is Arabic. Again these peoples spread over a large portion of the globe spanning from central Africa to central Asia. More than 70% of the so-called Arabs in the world live physically in Africa.

Given that the Arabic language is a Semitic language, which forms part of the Afro-Asia language family, which originated in Africa, one can rightly view Arabic as an African language. Of the official languages of the African Union that include English, French, Spanish, Portugese, and Arabic, Arabic language is the only Afro-Asiatic language spoken. The rest are Euro-Aryan English, French, Spanish and Portugese. See Uwechia Jide; Hamito-Semitic Africa: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/1... . See also Peter T. Daniels, Origin of Semitic: https://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane/2... .
Azania

Lakeland, FL

#40 May 23, 2010
A hadith related by Ibn Asakir in Tarak Dimashq and attributed to Islam’s prophet Muhammad states that :”Being an Arab is not because of your father or mother, but being an Arab is on account of your tongue. Whoever learns Arabic is an Arab.” < http://www.islamtoday.com/show_detail_section... ;.

Genealogically, an Arab is someone who can trace his or her ancestry back to the original inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula. Different groups estimate the relative importance of these factors differently. Most people who consider themselves Arabs do so on the basis of the overlap of the political and linguistic definitions.

Since there are so many different phenotypes all considered as Arabs, the query posed and answered by this paper then is: who are the original Arabs? Were they Black or White or Black and White? It is posited here that the original Arabs were Black African Kushites from the Nile valley who had settled in southwest Asia in the Arabian Peninsula in ancient times.

They were Kushitic-Ethiopians, speakers of an African prototypical Semitic language who had left from an area falling between the regions bordered by modern day Dafur in Sudan and Asmara in Eriteria. They took their African genes, their African intelligence, their African culture, their African language and their African love and built the ancient and the modern civilization known as Arabic civilization. In the paragraphs that follow, one is gradually introduced to the original Black Kushitic Arabs. See Uwechia Jide; Hamito-Semitic Africa: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/1... . See also Peter T. Daniels, Origin of Semitic: https://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane/2... .
Azania

Lakeland, FL

#41 May 23, 2010
Black Arabs and Classical Literature

Up to a century and a half ago our information concerning Arabia was based mainly on Greek and Latin writers, such as Herodotus (Histories), Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca Historica), Strabo (Geography, Book XVI), Pliny, Ptolemy, and others. All those writers reported without any equivocation that Arabia was part of the ancient Kingdom of Ethiopia Kush, extending from Africa into Solomon Islands.

Later Arabic writers and geographers, such as Hamadani’s “Arabian Peninsula,” Bekri and Yaqut’s geographical and historical dictionaries, and similar works also provide extremely valuable. However, those works are to be treated with caution because they contain fabulous and legendary traditions, partly based on native popular legends and partly on Jewish and rabbinical fancies.

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