Somalis are not black for the last time.

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#1 May 20, 2010
I'm really tired of the misconceptions spreading about Somalis on this site. Somalis are not black peoples, however we are Africans. I have nothing against maddow people but saying we are related to them is far from the truth. I can see how in western countries anyone with one drop of black is considered black but that's blind ignorance for the most part. Let's face reality for the sake of the truth please.

"The Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa."

- 80% cushitic, 15%(arabs) 5%(black)

"Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, while a significant contact to Arab and Middle East populations can be deduced from the present distribution of the Y"

- Hardly any significant mixing with blacks, probably because it was seen and still is taboo (5%). We married Arabs due to Islam but obviously not that much (15%)

In conclusion, the data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya (Boranas)– with predominant E1b1b cluster."

There we have it, anyone who doesn't agree with this is free to provide an intelligent refute with scientific evidence to bac your claims.

Source: http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/n7/ful...

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Minneapolis, MN

#2 May 20, 2010
warsame you my friends is correct about somalis not being black, the only people in somalia who happen to be black are the jareerweyn qabiil, i hope these adoon trolls understand that.

this older gentlemen in the pic is ethic somaii and all my years living in american, i have never encounter adoons even those mixed adoon that have the same appears as the men in the pic and me. our facial features are way too keen only nordics can match us in the world.

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LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#3 May 20, 2010
Warsame wrote:
I'm really tired of the misconceptions spreading about Somalis on this site. Somalis are not black peoples, however we are Africans. I have nothing against maddow people but saying we are related to them is far from the truth. I can see how in western countries anyone with one drop of black is considered black but that's blind ignorance for the most part. Let's face reality for the sake of the truth please.
"The Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa."
- 80% cushitic, 15%(arabs) 5%(black)
"Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, while a significant contact to Arab and Middle East populations can be deduced from the present distribution of the Y"
- Hardly any significant mixing with blacks, probably because it was seen and still is taboo (5%). We married Arabs due to Islam but obviously not that much (15%)
In conclusion, the data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya (Boranas)– with predominant E1b1b cluster."
There we have it, anyone who doesn't agree with this is free to provide an intelligent refute with scientific evidence to bac your claims.
Source: http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/n7/ful...
True.. but thats 5% sub-sharan not black either. who is black? what is black?. if somalis are not black.. then Jamaicans are not black. Nilotic people are not black. im not sayin ur wrong all im saying what u mean by black???
somalis are not black,indians are not black,aussie abrogines are not black,Melenesian are not black,braazil are not black,carribeans are not black,Bantu speaking not black, Nilotic speaking not black,AA not black, khoisan not black. they all differ alot. though they share alittle similarities.

there is No black Race. thats my point.

its jsut to identify the skin colour of dark skinned people for some funny reason. Bantu speaking ppl are different compare to AA's. same with Pygmies and Nilotic they are all different in sizes,cultural and Looks. so if we cast dark indians out of black race then we cast all 100 groups of Africa out of black race. the word was invented by racist whites as usual to describe anyone thats not good enough for them.

And arab is not a race. the studies may say 15%Euroasian but doesnt say specfically arab. yemen arabs have different blood to lebanese arabs.
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#4 May 20, 2010
But i agree with you . "black" and "negro" is now used by whites to degrade alot of Races. Ancient Egypt have high chance of being black but they are not classified as black, Indians are not classifed as being black why?? cuz they were advanced in History compared to many africans. Now wen they lern about somalis, people from ethiopia etc.. finding out this people had ancient kingdoms they classify them out of black race and call us caucasians???. Now that the Khoi-san Bushmens are found to have the Oldest Human gene/structure and are thought to be the Oldest Human race lving from over 200,000-300,000 years ago they claim those people are not black.
AA's have more Caucausians then us but they consider them Black cuz they dont like them??

see what i mean??? abrogines aussies are called Negros yet some of them have more white then us.

Racists are taking what they want and leaving what they dont want. they just dviding us
here to help

Minneapolis, MN

#5 May 20, 2010
^^^all those group of people that you’ve mentioned in your post are black due to their facial features to us somalis end of discussion.

“aqoon la'aani waa iftiin la'aa”

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#6 May 20, 2010
Warsame wrote:
I'm really tired of the misconceptions spreading about Somalis on this site. Somalis are not black peoples, however we are Africans. I have nothing against maddow people but saying we are related to them is far from the truth. I can see how in western countries anyone with one drop of black is considered black but that's blind ignorance for the most part. Let's face reality for the sake of the truth please.
"The Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa."
- 80% cushitic, 15%(arabs) 5%(black)
"Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, while a significant contact to Arab and Middle East populations can be deduced from the present distribution of the Y"
- Hardly any significant mixing with blacks, probably because it was seen and still is taboo (5%). We married Arabs due to Islam but obviously not that much (15%)
In conclusion, the data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya (Boranas)– with predominant E1b1b cluster."
There we have it, anyone who doesn't agree with this is free to provide an intelligent refute with scientific evidence to bac your claims.
Source: http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/n7/ful...
Somalis are not Black but 80%Cushitic? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*Cushitic* is not a Race! Also *Cush* is a Hebrew word which means *Black*. Walaahi you're out of your minde...
Azania

Mulberry, FL

#7 May 20, 2010
here to help wrote:
^^^all those group of people that you’ve mentioned in your post are black due to their facial features to us somalis end of discussion.
You all are eternal slaves because you don't controll your own countries....LOL!!!!!!!!!!
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#8 May 20, 2010
here to help wrote:
^^^all those group of people that you’ve mentioned in your post are black due to their facial features to us somalis end of discussion.
im from NFD. i know alot of ,Turkana and Samburu. ive also met the Masaai's and Luo's. and i can tell u its easy to spot them from a Bantu. Nilotic are generally Skinny and Tall. there cud be bony to. alot are sort of Extremely black spececially the Luo and Turkana. Some Masaai are somali skin colour and isnt always rough. ive seen massai women some are quite light skin with bony noses.

Btw being black is a colour not a facial feuture. so what ur saying is quite silly. ive seen chinese people with flat noses. and some african have similar eyes to chinese if u look carefully. so are chinese Black??.
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#9 May 20, 2010
Kenyan Nilotics have bony long noses.and are light skinned

http://image58.webshots.com/158/6/26/61/43226...

http://www.arushatimes.co.tz/2009/36/pictures... some look somali to me.
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#10 May 20, 2010

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#11 May 21, 2010
lol what i know is all somali likes to be white
nina ireland

Ireland

#12 May 21, 2010
well that is to bad once black they well always be black and by the way being black is nothing to be ashemed of!!
lol

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#13 May 21, 2010
What the hell? Is everyone on Topix a genealogist or something? To hell with this 15% arab bull crap!
kenyaafricawomen

Boston, MA

#14 May 21, 2010
Warsame wrote:
I'm really tired of the misconceptions spreading about Somalis on this site. Somalis are not black peoples, however we are Africans. I have nothing against maddow people but saying we are related to them is far from the truth. I can see how in western countries anyone with one drop of black is considered black but that's blind ignorance for the most part. Let's face reality for the sake of the truth please.
"The Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa."
- 80% cushitic, 15%(arabs) 5%(black)
"Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, while a significant contact to Arab and Middle East populations can be deduced from the present distribution of the Y"
- Hardly any significant mixing with blacks, probably because it was seen and still is taboo (5%). We married Arabs due to Islam but obviously not that much (15%)
In conclusion, the data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya (Boranas)– with predominant E1b1b cluster."
There we have it, anyone who doesn't agree with this is free to provide an intelligent refute with scientific evidence to bac your claims.
Source: http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/n7/ful...
if you are not black live our africa for us ......go to your arab county

Since: Apr 10

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#15 May 21, 2010
The problem with these afro-centrist is that they assume Somalis are Black because we are African. Not everyone in Africa is black dumba**!!
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#16 May 21, 2010
kenyaafricawomen wrote:
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if you are not black live our africa for us ......go to your arab county
what u talk about. Arabs also live and originated from Africa. u dont have to be dark in skin to be african. Berbers have almost always been around North Africa they seem pretty pale to me.

15% arab, 5%black 80%Cushite. not as if they took blood test out of every freakin clan across Somalia. or every freakin person. thats just average out of 5 people.

your blood doesnt point out whether ur an arab neither does it if ur black rofl. like i said before Arab blood and black varry. from Iraq to Yemen to Morroco to Egypt. and from Khoisan Bushmen to Nilotic Speaking people to Semite speaking. its all different even the facial features is also different.
LearnTheTruth

Birmingham, UK

#17 May 21, 2010
english293402 wrote:
The problem with these afro-centrist is that they assume Somalis are Black because we are African. Not everyone in Africa is black dumba**!!
You all yapping about black.

No one has answered me this question.

What is being black?
Istar

Mississauga, Canada

#18 May 21, 2010
Who the F cares. Go call yourself white! You're in denial, Topix Somali's are straight- up embarrassing. Sometimes I wonder if anyone here is really Somali.

Since: Feb 10

Orlando, FL

#19 May 21, 2010
nina ireland wrote:
well that is to bad once black they well always be black and by the way being black is nothing to be ashemed of!!
lol
LOL... It's the stigma behind being black created by Europeans that people run from and don't want to be associated with, and they fight tooth and nail to disclaim it....

Since: May 10

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#20 May 21, 2010
INSEARCH_OF wrote:
What the hell? Is everyone on Topix a genealogist or something? To hell with this 15% arab bull crap!
Wallahi that's typical Somali behavior denial in the face of truth. I'm personally not a genealogist but the people who conducted this study are. Is it such a hard pill to swallow that we aren't black? shesh.

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