Abdi

Saint-laurent, Canada

#22 Jul 17, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
A real man never needs a woman to defend him. It is he who defends the honor of a woman. There for Somali women don't need to defend their men because they are men. While on the other hand, a non somali women feel the need to defend their men because their men's manhood is easily bruised by words since they are not men to begin with.
Also, what's with all this talk about Zina? We are muslims, we don't do such shameful acts that are hated by Allah (swt).
So if someone insults your husband or boyfriend would you defend him?

Since: Jun 13

Schiffweiler, Germany

#23 Jul 17, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
<quoted text>
lol your doing your paper on internet trolls? Lol aren't you stupid. You are a sad and pathetic individual. Get a life because jealously doesn't look good on anyone.
lol jealous?? Lol
I hold that racism is a mental illness and the comments on this page shows that your community is rife with it.. thats nothing to envy nor to be jealous of.
At first I was going to write about the rise of the radical right in Europe but after being on several white supremacy forums looking for material I have to say you lot have them beat hands down. I'm not sure why I should be jealous of that.
you lot are quite clearly angry and suffering from sort of psychosis.. Racism is a mental illness... and you people.. wallahi many of you are sick...
your mental illnesses are not to be envied.. your conclusion is premature, undeveloped and inaccurate.
Sheikh Voodoo

Bentleigh, Australia

#24 Jul 17, 2013
AbuAmerican wrote:
lol jealous?? Lol
I hold that racism is a mental illness and the comments on this page shows that your community is rife with it.. thats nothing to envy nor to be jealous of.
At first I was going to write about the rise of the radical right in Europe but after being on several white supremacy forums looking for material I have to say you lot have them beat hands down. I'm not sure why I should be jealous of that.
you lot are quite clearly angry and suffering from sort of psychosis.. Racism is a mental illness... and you people.. wallahi many of you are sick...
your mental illnesses are not to be envied.. your conclusion is premature, undeveloped and inaccurate.
Welcome to the world of somali tribal-salafis. Below is a story of racism from your Saudi tribal-salafi by a Saudi newspaper.

Racism in Saudi society

Qaiser Mutawie
Al-Madinah

A recent match between Al-Hilal club of Riyadh and Al-Ittihad of Jeddah caused a lot of controversy and friction in society. The cause of this controversy was the racist chants by some spectators. These chants reflected the ugly face of a phenomenon that has been spreading in our society and that should be sternly confronted without any negligence.

What happened during the match was not an accidental or rare event that should not be given much attention because it is alien and new to our society and will soon subside, as some people believe.

Racism does exist among various segments and faction of our society. Discrimination and disparity, whether on sectarian, racial, regional or tribal bases, are not unknown to us. The hatred and disdain of others do exist among us in one way or another similar to other societies.

We should, first of all, be candid with ourselves and not bury our heads in the sand. We should admit that, like any other society, we do have racism. We should not live in a continuous state of denial. We should not deny that residents of certain regions believe that they are of a better race than the residents of other areas. Members of some tribes believe that they are much better than the members of other tribes.

People in certain regions of our country believe that they alone are the true followers of the correct Islam. Such notions constitute a real threat to social integrity. The problem is that racism is not practiced against citizens alone but is also extended to the expatriate residents whom we feel superior to because they work for us.

The most serious aspect of it is that this phenomenon has become almost normal practice in our country and is accepted by many individuals regardless of their age or inclination. Those people who accept racism will never venture to openly denounce it. For instance, we exchange a number of mobile messages making fun of certain nationalities or the residents of certain regions. We laugh at these jokes and instead of denouncing them, we consider them to be funny and send them to others to laugh at.

A clear law should be enacted to combat racism. This law should incriminate racism and prevent the spread of hatred in all its forms. Harsh punishments should be applied on those who practice racism or spread hatred on racial grounds. The drafting of such a law will increase awareness that racism is abominable and unacceptable.

To those who may claim that by issuing such laws we will only be copying the West, I say it was Islam that first rejected and prevented racism.

Racism in any form is abhorrent and is a grave threat to social unity. We should strongly confront it by all means, including legislation that incriminates all sorts of racist remarks and practices, with the aim of curbing its further spread in society before it becomes too late and difficult to contain.

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm...

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#25 Jul 17, 2013
AbuAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>
lol jealous?? Lol
I hold that racism is a mental illness and the comments on this page shows that your community is rife with it.. thats nothing to envy nor to be jealous of.
At first I was going to write about the rise of the radical right in Europe but after being on several white supremacy forums looking for material I have to say you lot have them beat hands down. I'm not sure why I should be jealous of that.
you lot are quite clearly angry and suffering from sort of psychosis.. Racism is a mental illness... and you people.. wallahi many of you are sick...
your mental illnesses are not to be envied.. your conclusion is premature, undeveloped and inaccurate.


ooh wow. You know the saying "takes one to know one?" you fit it perfectly. You come on here calling us a racist and all kinds of names. Who is the racist now? Plus your statements are totally bias and false. Does racism exist in my community ? Yes and I don't deny it but this forum does not represent my community. Majority of the "racists" here are just trolling or plain idiots. That's why I don't bother with them because in the real world it's totally different.

Also, who does there research paper on a forum? Lol, troll much?

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#26 Jul 17, 2013
Abdi wrote:
<quoted text>
So if someone insults your husband or boyfriend would you defend him?
No and if he was a real man he wouldn't want me to. The man is the one who does the protecting and defending, not the other way around.
Plus, remember when the Jews wish death on our prophet(saw) and Aisha(ra) defend the prophet(saw) by calling them sons of pigs and apes. What did the prophet(saw) do? He stopped her and not praise her for coming to his defense.
You see, real men don't need anyone to defend them. Because real men are strong and don't let stupid stuff like that get to them. They are sure of themselves and could careless what others say about them. Instead they spend their time defend the weak and those under their care. Not crying in a corner because their ego was hurt.

Since: Jun 13

Schiffweiler, Germany

#27 Jul 17, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
<quoted text>
ooh wow. You know the saying "takes one to know one?" you fit it perfectly. You come on here calling us a racist and all kinds of names. Who is the racist now? Plus your statements are totally bias and false. Does racism exist in my community ? Yes and I don't deny it but this forum does not represent my community. Majority of the "racists" here are just trolling or plain idiots. That's why I don't bother with them because in the real world it's totally different.
Also, who does there research paper on a forum? Lol, troll much?
you like making premature assumptions don't you?

Racist?? Not allowed in my family... frowned upon in my society.. Although my basic features would make you think I'm black American I come from a very diverse family. My grandfather is caucasion... my grandmother is south American Indian.. growing up in an environment like that... you can't be racist.. But it doesn't stop there.. my first wife is a white German and our 6 kids are obviously not my color.. my brother is married to a manderin Chinese woman and they have a beautiful child.. my nephew... to discriminate against a person based on race is not in my ethos... cant be.. I'd have to hate most of.my family and myself because I myself am mixed...
top that off I became Muslim and I believe you follow the path of Muhammed peace be upon him not ibleese. Any racist is upon the path of ibleese... what were his words to Allah in regards to Aadam? He said ana akhurum min... I'm better than him! I'm made of smokeless fire and he from clay.
Now here we are faced with a people who think they are better than others based on genetics, my hair is smooth, my nose is narrow blah blah blah... same thing ibleese was on. Soooooo no... not racist but I can spot one very quickly.

As for your community... just 5 months ago I married into your community and so my first hand experiences have been many. Not much changes between these forums and personal experience. I actually think the anonymous nature of the net lets people truly air what's in their heart and that's what I am.getting here.. pure.. unadulterated truth. Let me ask you.. were I to go into your community and randomly ask their opinions on blacks, race and all the other tripe one person uses to discriminate another... would I get honest answers? No... know why I know that??? I worked woth white supremacist before... what they say in public is very different from what they say online and in private circles... the internet is an excellent source for material... ask your teacher... if you had or have one.

what names have I called you people other than racist? Tell me... no.. paste and copy and show me.. you say I come on here calling you people all sorts of names... id like some proof so I can either justify it or apologise. My wife is the one who told me many in her family would treat me with racist ideology in their minds.
How do I now come and insult her ethnicity and people???

accepted this forum doesn't represent your community but I'm not doing a paper on your community... I'm doing it on racism. Your assumption I am.biased is partially correct... when I decided to tackle this topic I aimed to look into white racist ideology only... had to step back from that whole thing 5 months ago and seriously be unbiased.. whites aren't the only ones who are and can be racist and bigoted.

To be fair... the last few days have been a relief from the norm... maybe because its Ramadan.. Many have shown a very praise worthy effort to trounce those who call for genocides in other threads.
no one said you people are bad... or at least I didn't... but you people are a good source for a bad topic.. even if you dont like it...
Abdi

Montréal, Canada

#28 Jul 18, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
<quoted text>
No and if he was a real man he wouldn't want me to. The man is the one who does the protecting and defending, not the other way around.
Plus, remember when the Jews wish death on our prophet(saw) and Aisha(ra) defend the prophet(saw) by calling them sons of pigs and apes. What did the prophet(saw) do? He stopped her and not praise her for coming to his defense.
You see, real men don't need anyone to defend them. Because real men are strong and don't let stupid stuff like that get to them. They are sure of themselves and could careless what others say about them. Instead they spend their time defend the weak and those under their care. Not crying in a corner because their ego was hurt.
Are you implying that women are weak? My grandmother was the strongest women I know. Everybody in jilib knew her. She never let a man beat her or insult her. Does that make her less of a woman? No. And theirs nothing wrong if a wife defends her husband. It just shows that she loves him. If you have this mentality that a man has to respect a woman without receiving respect from her will make it hard for u to find anybody. you have to respect in order to receive respect.
gurxan

Europe

#29 Jul 18, 2013
i hope that i will clearly detail the defferance betwean ethiopian and somali becouse i am somali ethiopian living all my entire live in ethopia even i visited the remotest parts of ethiopia like awasa, soda walayta, arbimnch (southern nations) and whole parts of oromoa including nazareth and sidamo, bali and also ginder qnd robe and harar and suroundings so i believe i put acurately in light.
1. ethiopians in reality ate low hygiene and almost dirtified especially they get showet ama qabays once in two and have monthd
2. they dont wash face in the morning that is why ethiopia has the highest number of trachoma patients
3. they dont brush teath (one of key requiremrnts in hugien)
4. thy have highest rate of eligimate sex intercourse and govrrnment tax the night club and aids is hihest rate of growth.
,5. are not good in handling and caring older parents.
thy eat raw meat like hyena so their digestion is defferent ythen normal beings
6. finaly my research paper adviser was indian ama hindi and reseerch paper exminer was ethiopian. when i was presenting paper they both set shoulder to shoulder and my indian adviser was experiancing hardship becouse of bad smell from my paper examiner.
i will tell more in the next post.
Abdi

Montréal, Canada

#30 Jul 18, 2013
Any reer jilib people out here? Maybe y'all know my ayeeyo.
gurxan

Europe

#31 Jul 18, 2013
ethiopian lady are more sexy oriented then somali lady becouse if you have an ethiopian girle friend you coulf have essily sexy with becouse hadaad hal habeen casho gaysa ood siisa cuntada ethiopia ugu qaalisan oo ogu horeeya hilibka caydhiinka ah walaahi you will get ever thing. she exchanges her vigina one night diner. toilet hygien is worst anf lowest and using ethiopian is worst i experianced and in hotel where travelers slesp thy put tuunji aad ku gaadiso sida caruurtii.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#32 Jul 18, 2013
Abdi wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you implying that women are weak? My grandmother was the strongest women I know. Everybody in jilib knew her. She never let a man beat her or insult her. Does that make her less of a woman? No. And theirs nothing wrong if a wife defends her husband. It just shows that she loves him. If you have this mentality that a man has to respect a woman without receiving respect from her will make it hard for u to find anybody. you have to respect in order to receive respect.
why would I call women weak when I am one? I would not allow anyone to call me weak or my fellow sisters.
Second, why do I need to stand up for a man when I suppose to be under his care?(I believe in the Islamic traditional roles).
Abdi

Etobicoke, Canada

#33 Jul 18, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
<quoted text>
why would I call women weak when I am one? I would not allow anyone to call me weak or my fellow sisters.
Second, why do I need to stand up for a man when I suppose to be under his care?(I believe in the Islamic traditional roles).
I'm not saying you have to. I'm just saying that theirs nothing wrong with it. What if you marry an abusive husband who you would expect to "care" for you. Then that's when your gonna fight your battles for yourself.
hooyo

Basel, Switzerland

#34 Jul 18, 2013
AbuAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>
lol jealous?? Lol
I hold that racism is a mental illness and the comments on this page shows that your community is rife with it.. thats nothing to envy nor to be jealous of.
At first I was going to write about the rise of the radical right in Europe but after being on several white supremacy forums looking for material I have to say you lot have them beat hands down. I'm not sure why I should be jealous of that.
you lot are quite clearly angry and suffering from sort of psychosis.. Racism is a mental illness... and you people.. wallahi many of you are sick...
your mental illnesses are not to be envied.. your conclusion is premature, undeveloped and inaccurate.
salaam brother ramadaan kariim pl reread you post how can you offend us this way yet you claim to have somali wive mashalah as senior forumer i well come you to somali forum and somalia and africa you see we are not all bad as you think

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#35 Jul 18, 2013
Abdi wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not saying you have to. I'm just saying that theirs nothing wrong with it. What if you marry an abusive husband who you would expect to "care" for you. Then that's when your gonna fight your battles for yourself.
I'm not saying there is something wrong with it but that real men don't need defending. So it shouldn't matter whether or not someone defends them.

Also, I would never marry an abusive husband. And if I did (god forbid), I would leave and report him. If not for my own safety, than my children's.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#36 Jul 18, 2013
@abuAmerica,
Just because you have a somali  wife and a mixed family doesn't mean you can't be a racist. You could be a somali and still be a somali racist.

Second, this is a forum is infested with trolls.
You are wrong about people show their "true colors" on the internet. Studies have showed that people will do things that they think are wrong and would never do in real life because of anonymity. For example, kids may bully others online not because their bullies but because they can get away with a "prank" with out being figured out.(I'll try to find my old text book which talked about this).

The hair and nose thread. Lol is done by a newbie troll. He used the same thread three different types but one time he did it under isaaq, another time haweyi, and another time darod. Lol, a five year old could figure out that's. Is a troll.

Their is racism in every community and society but the racism on here is a bit more extreme than what actual happens in the somali community. No thanks to trolls.

When I was 8 years old my uncle,who is like a father to me, took me to the somali mall in mn. We were visiting the city so most of his friends didn't know me. When we were walk through the somali mall one of his old friends,stopped us said hello and asked who I was. Than the man said "she is very light skinned." which my beloved uncle's replied back saying "she's a girl, she's suppose to be light skinned ." I was very angered by the comment and I did not understand at the time why.
When I was 15 my uncle took me to the a bank to open up an account and our assistant was from Nigeria.  she kept say how beautiful I was and how clear my skin was.(I thought she was just being nice), The lady look at me than my uncle, ask what my relationship to me was and he said I am her father. She said but she's really light skinned and he said I look like my mother.

Again I was angry. But I wasn't angry because of the racism or sexism but because these people had the most messed up ideas about skin color. I was upset because of their stupidity.  How can grow up adults think so backwards?

I know my community and I know my problems. And I know to what degree each problem exists in my community. So don't come in here think you can tell me what problems exists in my community.

Also,  The reason somalis have such a big problem with marrying out has to do with biology. We just use racism as an excuse but it is not the root cause of the problem.

Fyi, you said we were mentally ill.
hooyo

Basel, Switzerland

#37 Jul 18, 2013
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome to the world of somali tribal-salafis. Below is a story of racism from your Saudi tribal-salafi by a Saudi newspaper.
Racism in Saudi society
Qaiser Mutawie
Al-Madinah
A recent match between Al-Hilal club of Riyadh and Al-Ittihad of Jeddah caused a lot of controversy and friction in society. The cause of this controversy was the racist chants by some spectators. These chants reflected the ugly face of a phenomenon that has been spreading in our society and that should be sternly confronted without any negligence.
What happened during the match was not an accidental or rare event that should not be given much attention because it is alien and new to our society and will soon subside, as some people believe.
Racism does exist among various segments and faction of our society. Discrimination and disparity, whether on sectarian, racial, regional or tribal bases, are not unknown to us. The hatred and disdain of others do exist among us in one way or another similar to other societies.
We should, first of all, be candid with ourselves and not bury our heads in the sand. We should admit that, like any other society, we do have racism. We should not live in a continuous state of denial. We should not deny that residents of certain regions believe that they are of a better race than the residents of other areas. Members of some tribes believe that they are much better than the members of other tribes.
People in certain regions of our country believe that they alone are the true followers of the correct Islam. Such notions constitute a real threat to social integrity. The problem is that racism is not practiced against citizens alone but is also extended to the expatriate residents whom we feel superior to because they work for us.
The most serious aspect of it is that this phenomenon has become almost normal practice in our country and is accepted by many individuals regardless of their age or inclination. Those people who accept racism will never venture to openly denounce it. For instance, we exchange a number of mobile messages making fun of certain nationalities or the residents of certain regions. We laugh at these jokes and instead of denouncing them, we consider them to be funny and send them to others to laugh at.
A clear law should be enacted to combat racism. This law should incriminate racism and prevent the spread of hatred in all its forms. Harsh punishments should be applied on those who practice racism or spread hatred on racial grounds. The drafting of such a law will increase awareness that racism is abominable and unacceptable.
To those who may claim that by issuing such laws we will only be copying the West, I say it was Islam that first rejected and prevented racism.
Racism in any form is abhorrent and is a grave threat to social unity. We should strongly confront it by all means, including legislation that incriminates all sorts of racist remarks and practices, with the aim of curbing its further spread in society before it becomes too late and difficult to contain.
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm...
lol you aint nothing but hater and troll we welcome abuamerican he is muslim and black man yes there is nothing you can say about slam
Naasir

Sioux Falls, SD

#38 Jul 18, 2013
Naaya hooyo, why do I get the feeling that inaa nin si xun ugu baahantahey...Masajid ka xabad so Muslimey u doono wa adiga nin kan Somalida caynaya so dhawaynaya...typical mj (fill the blank lolz).

Ps..peace and shaax....don't let these Bantus bash our people while they pretend like they are true Muslims... Who even cares what they think of us. They are are grown up people and should know that every community has good and bad people.

Since: Jun 13

Schiffweiler, Germany

#39 Jul 18, 2013
@ peace n shaax

I stand by my statement that I hold racism to be a mental illness.

There was recently a behaviour study done at Berkley about how people interact in different settings... the results are not only startling but disturbing.. This study is why I hold people show their true colors online.

I don't have a problem with Somalis... not at all and you might have misunderstood that because so many non Somalis come here trashing you guys.
no.. wallah kella.. Somalis are my brothers and sisters in Islam I love them for the sake if Allah even if they don't love me... watassimu be hablillahi jammiyan wa laa tafarraqu..
hold fast together to the rope of allah and do not be divided.

im not here to lecture you... on your people nor this religion.. I'm here to learn but I'm not learning what I wanted to.. as so many like to remind us... my ancestors on my fathers side were slaves.. A people cut off from their culture and heritage.. I think its a beautiful thing to see a people who still have theirs..

That said, I'm not trying to be Somali... I'm just trying to understand the people who gave me something precious and invaluable, my wife... I think I owe them courtesy of knowing some of the culture as not be an embarrassing blight to them..

I'm not here to argue.... lol even though I can argue till the cows come home.
hooyo

Basel, Switzerland

#40 Jul 18, 2013
Naasir wrote:
Naaya hooyo, why do I get the feeling that inaa nin si xun ugu baahantahey...Masajid ka xabad so Muslimey u doono wa adiga nin kan Somalida caynaya so dhawaynaya...typical mj (fill the blank lolz).
Ps..peace and shaax....don't let these Bantus bash our people while they pretend like they are true Muslims... Who even cares what they think of us. They are are grown up people and should know that every community has good and bad people.
dont you dare call me naayaa rtypical majeerteen kulahaa you have issue with majeerteen come clean about it dont bother to reply me

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#41 Jul 18, 2013
@abuAmerica
fair enough. But if you wanted to address or even change the racism in the somali community, this is not the way to go about it. Trust me, I know from experience. Hate only breeds more hate. So next time don't antagonize us.

@naasir,

You are right about not letting people bash us but at the same time we shouldn't go down to their level. We are better than that because we are Muslim and Islam requires us to be the bigger person.

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