Why do people say Darood Harti/Dhulbahante (Caligheri) are part of Hawiye?

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shukrii

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#69
Aug 26, 2013
 
Mr''SEEKTHETRUTH" Did u just said "Nuux Mahamud" is hawiyo??? That doesn't make any sense walahi.
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Aug 26, 2013
 
shekhey wrote:
lol at darods never claim hawiye who are galgale? Arent they are abgaals and now galgale is nuux maxamuud saleebaan mj! But they never were mj the galgale only got issue with the abgaal who said galgale toban abgaal dheh(and sagaal abgal now) balse gabar gob ah nine galgale magooyo(they have done some thing in the past and was out casted) and then in the 1990 mj of jowhar took them lol I was in afgooye in 91 and fled from the abgaal and galgale war with my granmum who use to live in there
Also warsangali took half of cawramale gaaljecel/sarasoor in kismaayo as cawramalihii caadka raacay lol
And how many times dhuloos had claimed fiqishini?
But for duduble they are still found in puntland they still dominate in bayra,buuryaqab, and in mudug and sool half of madhibaan are duduble they are two clans xildiid and reer kuulbeer in sool and puntland reer kuulbeer are part of duduble they even intermarry in the deaspora as they are far from each other in somalia
.....huno did you just said "Nuux Mahamoud" is hawiyo???? That doesn't even make sense! Walahi.
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Aug 26, 2013
 
Abdi wrote:
Hawiye don't claim any one, actually hawiye hate each other and many hawiye clans left hawiye and somalia all together, which the remaining hawiye dont even bother. Since the Gorgate Hawiye group rebel Jambeele hawiye to take over the power During the juuraan Era, many jambeele hawiye and thier other hawiye supporters left hawiye and somalia all togetha, they say they not hawiye any more. The gorgate hawiye push them out of Somalia just like they did to Siyad bare's Government.
The Ajuuraan FOOT SOLDIERS where mainly from the Gorgarte hawiye who use to protect from central somalia ethiopia to deep down east Africa.
the Spanish, rahanwayne and Arab sultans all tried to over throw ajuuraan government and fail, but when the gorgarte hawiye who are their own FOOT SOLDIERS rappel it,The government of ajuuraan collapsed immediately, just like Siyad bare's Gomermnt collapsed when hawiye who mainly where the food soldiers rappel it.
there are many hawiye clans in kenya and east africa who left hawiye and Somalia all together like the ajuuraan in kenya today who will tell you they not hawiye or even Somali but African.
Spanish writers described Ajuuraans as been like people from dinosaur age, like Big Dark strong and tallest Africans. and this description you can clearly see this was infact the Somali people, when you look at the gorgarte hawiye in this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
If you ask me, Gorgarte Hawiye or Hiraab which ever you like, destroyed Somalia
Hawiye is not like the hawiye before, alot of clans have left hawiye and Somalia all together and hawiye is geting smaller and smaller, till only abgaal and habargidir left.
It's not just jambelle. Even raarane hawiyes joined with digil Iyo mirifle and many karanle subclans lost their identity and joined with jareerweyn while some of them reside in shabelle river valleys and a few in galbeed. Even murusades Ibrahim Sabti subclan have lived in Merca, afgooye, barawa and other lower shabelle coastal towns have became shanaad status by mixing with Bantus, shanshiyo and bajunis. Theirs a rumor going on that habar gidir saruur was a Bantu orphan that joined habargidir because Ibrahim (habargidirs son) got lost but habargidir was blind and always thaught that the Bantu orphan was actually his list son Ibrahim so he named him saruur.
amir

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#72
Aug 26, 2013
 
Shukri Gacal wrote:
<quoted text>.....huno did you just said "Nuux Mahamoud" is hawiyo???? That doesn't even make sense! Walahi.
lol@ huuno

yes nuux maxamoud is hawiye. their own id says so.
you mus have been away from somalia for a long time.
otherwise you would have known who is who.
your confused stems from westernized mentality.
that is why you don't know who nuux maxamoud is.
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#73
Aug 27, 2013
 
omar wrote:
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It's not just jambelle. Even raarane hawiyes joined with digil Iyo mirifle and many karanle subclans lost their identity and joined with jareerweyn while some of them reside in shabelle river valleys and a few in galbeed. Even murusades Ibrahim Sabti subclan have lived in Merca, afgooye, barawa and other lower shabelle coastal towns have became shanaad status by mixing with Bantus, shanshiyo and bajunis. Theirs a rumor going on that habar gidir saruur was a Bantu orphan that joined habargidir because Ibrahim (habargidirs son) got lost but habargidir was blind and always thaught that the Bantu orphan was actually his *LOST son Ibrahim so he named him saruur.
Correction*
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#74
Aug 27, 2013
 
I hate hawiye i hate also isaaaaaaq Vivaaaaa ogadeeeeeen laaaaandheeeere soooooomaaaaalida
Habar Awaal

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#75
Oct 20, 2013
 
I am isaaq
I think we are related to this noble tribe called darood
But you guys a also kind of faqash running away from a war but we still respect you
And this hawiye clan
They are not bin adaan
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#76
Nov 14, 2013
 
SeekTheTruth wrote:
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I will and do pray for them and all of us. But just the mention of qabiil doesnt mean its a predujice. I am merely trying to discover why my Darood Sub clan is claimed to be related to a Hawiye sub clan by Hawiye people. I have never heard any Darood or Dhulbahante people claim a Hawiye sub clan. It's just totally absurd if you ask me. I dont like lies, false news or folk tales. I am trying to discover the truth.
if u are ali gheri then ask your grandfather the story why a sub tribe in the duduble clan are dhulbshante and in fact ali gheri you grand father knows I ask someone once and they told me an ali gheri went to the king of the duduble ppl to retrieve a lost horse and he fathered this kid that is now ckaimed by both ali gheri and duduble.

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