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many thread have been made about this topic and most don't really say anything.

what are the Somali fears of bantus in Somalia.

1. the Bantu population is increasing true today they constitute 10%. one million out of a population of approximately 10+millions Somalis. there are 3 millions Somalia diaspora/refugee. and about 12 millions Somalis in Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti. so the somalia Bantu are make up less than 2-3% of the overall Somalia population.

2. although they are small they farm some of the most fertile/arable land in Somalia especially along the shabelle and the juba and many Somali feel that just because their ancestors settle there. Somali Bantu have no legal right to the land so the issue is about land and the redistribution of land.

3. as Somalis were scattereed to four winds and they come across Bantu people and inevitable the distinction of between us and them become more pronounced. some Somalis began to paint all bantus with the same brush and come to view the Somali bantus as a trojan horse: a fifth column whose allegiance is suspect and who could be used against us in the future.

Viewing the Somali Bantu as a threat even a menace, I believe is short sight. first they alway remain small. 2nd if the Somalis want greater distribution of arable land than they will have to give the Somali Bantu greater social service. in the past there was discrimination in employment and education. if Somali bantus are given greater employment opportunities and they move into cities their population will go down. they'll feel more welcome and thus be loyal to the Somalia state. if however, we forceful redistribute the land and put them into gettoes like AA. their hate for us will only grow and they will become foot soldier of anyone who seeks to harm us. The way forward is toward greater justice.

the ulternative is gettoes with an anger underclass. where we either incarcerate them like AA or sterile them like the isrealis are doing to the Falashas in isreal or mass deportation or genocide.

we can also import lots of poor Indian women and breed the black out of the Somali Bantu lol. seriously disregard the last comment. so what do you guys think.
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Bantu population increases sharply and the numbers on Bantu population is directly incorrect. All official figures on Bantu pouplationen is strongly misleading, you need only look across southern Somalia to get it confirmed.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/somalia/TLEC...

They reproduce like rats and also some scum of cushitic heritage interbreed with these inferior advanced gorillas. Their have been reports of dhillos giving birth to adoonhybrids.

As a matter of fact, I would estimate the Bantu population as atleast 2-3 million.

2. Bantu adoons do not any longer own any farms and and many live on the streets. Go to any refugee camp in Mogadishu and you will see all of them living their are qashin jareer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

As you can see on the second video their is also other foreign invanders of bantu origin from other countries arriving in Somalia at a high rate.

Also the problem with their laziness, beggers, stinking bodies, their repulsive manners and appearance aswell as their boundless stupidty is just awful. This are to been seen as nothing but invaders and parazites, There is no sensible reason why there are adoons still living in Somalia as well as Horn of Africa...It will destroy our genepool in future, they will also do to high fertility increase even more and dont forget they are spreading HIV & AIDS.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/somalia/TBDT...

3. People waking up and seeing this alarming problem is good and a must, we must distinct ourselves from them.. Cushitic and Bantu are to different races just like jileec and jareer are differnet ethnic, we dont belong in the same community, society, country or region.

That there are millions of Bantu's in Somalia is insane and absolutely sickening and they reproduce rapidly, in the future, we will certainly be in the minority. It will lead to the Bantu Negroes Delete the traditional Somali culture and weaken its civilization. Divide and weaken the hamites cushitic nations, break their ethnic awareness and national community so that they never have the opportunity to organize an ethnically conscious and collectivist movement that would handle this Bantu negro problem effective immediately.

Do you want the holy cushitic Horn of Africa to Become a Bantu region like many others? Do you want Somalia to become a bantu country like many others? There are already 100 countries in the world where Bantu Negroes can come and settle, however, there is only one Somalia, and it shall remain Cushitic even in the future.

What is needed is an cushitic movement with ethnic awareness who solve this jareer problem effective immiedatly.

If an adoon creature breeds with an indian women it wont take out the adoon-genetics but just replace the recessive indian genetic.. The same with cushites somalis who interbreed with these xoolo...

All we need to do is to send them back to their ancestor lands, look at this bantu who have went back to his forefathers land - Tanzania -

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Somalia is a country Primarily for cushitic Somalis, Those Whose roots and connectedness to this land Stretches back thousands of years, Secondly it belongs to the raciall,. genetically and culturally close-related peoples who share our genes, phenotypes, behaviors and values. Send these adoon invaders back to their land, and send the recent invaders home.
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Lightning wrote:
many thread have been made about this topic and most don't really say anything.
what are the Somali fears of bantus in Somalia.
1. the Bantu population is increasing true today they constitute 10%. one million out of a population of approximately 10+millions Somalis. there are 3 millions Somalia diaspora/refugee. and about 12 millions Somalis in Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti. so the somalia Bantu are make up less than 2-3% of the overall Somalia population.
2. although they are small they farm some of the most fertile/arable land in Somalia especially along the shabelle and the juba and many Somali feel that just because their ancestors settle there. Somali Bantu have no legal right to the land so the issue is about land and the redistribution of land.
3. as Somalis were scattereed to four winds and they come across Bantu people and inevitable the distinction of between us and them become more pronounced. some Somalis began to paint all bantus with the same brush and come to view the Somali bantus as a trojan horse: a fifth column whose allegiance is suspect and who could be used against us in the future.
Viewing the Somali Bantu as a threat even a menace, I believe is short sight. first they alway remain small. 2nd if the Somalis want greater distribution of arable land than they will have to give the Somali Bantu greater social service. in the past there was discrimination in employment and education. if Somali bantus are given greater employment opportunities and they move into cities their population will go down. they'll feel more welcome and thus be loyal to the Somalia state. if however, we forceful redistribute the land and put them into gettoes like AA. their hate for us will only grow and they will become foot soldier of anyone who seeks to harm us. The way forward is toward greater justice.
the ulternative is gettoes with an anger underclass. where we either incarcerate them like AA or sterile them like the isrealis are doing to the Falashas in isreal or mass deportation or genocide.
we can also import lots of poor Indian women and breed the black out of the Somali Bantu lol. seriously disregard the last comment. so what do you guys think.
Stop living in you head and open your eyes to reality, boy! You somalis live like animals. It is bantus bringing order to your sh!thole of a country. You are the poorest and most rechid people in Africa. You flee to bantu countries in droves and then have audacity to talk as if somalia the nazi central of Africa. LOL! Putz. You are nothing but flies on sh!t. You know you have a somali minority in Kenya, right? LOL! Yeah, they reproduce like flies and can't feed themselves either. So the Kenya govt has to step in once in a while to feed them. The reason you good for nothing vermin are starving is because you drove the bantu farming community off their land. You want their land redistributed, what are you going to use it for? You think food magically pops out of the ground without lifting a finger. LOL! Idiots.
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Stop living in you head and open your eyes to reality, boy! You somalis live like animals. It is bantus bringing order to your sh!thole of a country. You are the poorest and most rechid people in Africa. You flee to bantu countries in droves and then have audacity to talk as if somalia the nazi central of Africa. LOL! Putz. You are nothing but flies on sh!t. You know you have a somali minority in Kenya, right? LOL! Yeah, they reproduce like flies and can't feed themselves either. So the Kenya govt has to step in once in a while to feed them. The reason you good for nothing vermin are starving is because you drove the bantu farming community off their land. You want their land redistributed, what are you going to use it for? You think food magically pops out of the ground without lifting a finger. LOL! Idiots.
"you flee to Bantu countries in droves" you make it seem like Somalis are flooding into Bantu country like a reverse migration. how many Somali live in countries south of Kenya maybe 50-100 thousand less than the Somalis in united arab emirate. the fact most Somalia head to the middle east or to Europe like the millions of African trying to make it to Europe. Africa outside of Kenya is not a major destination for Somali refugees but there are a lot of Somali business people. in transport, retail. Realstate and import and export are somali.

also don't paint Bantu countries like they are Asian trigger: the export agricultural, raw mineral and the lower end of the economic spectrum. The only reason African are grow is because commodity price are high due to the emergence of china and at the level that china is extracting from the continent those mine will run dry by the middle of this century. even the fable gold/diamond mines of south Africa are running dry.

Somalia on the other hand was alway prized for it strategic location and was colonized later than most african countries so euroepans couldnot extract from our country to the extend of other African countries. Somalia has coal and gemstone fields in the northwest, oil and gas in the northeast. uranium and iron in the center of the country, lush fertile lands in the south and the longest coastline with the best fisheries in Africa. heck an entire plate boundary is name after us: the Somali plate. the fact is that Somalia has greatness in it future and you whining over the Internet isn't going to change that.
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"you flee to Bantu countries in droves" you make it seem like Somalis are flooding into Bantu country like a reverse migration. how many Somali live in countries south of Kenya maybe 50-100 thousand less than the Somalis in united arab emirate. the fact most Somalia head to the middle east or to Europe like the millions of African trying to make it to Europe. Africa outside of Kenya is not a major destination for Somali refugees but there are a lot of Somali business people. in transport, retail. Realstate and import and export are somali.
also don't paint Bantu countries like they are Asian trigger: the export agricultural, raw mineral and the lower end of the economic spectrum. The only reason African are grow is because commodity price are high due to the emergence of china and at the level that china is extracting from the continent those mine will run dry by the middle of this century. even the fable gold/diamond mines of south Africa are running dry.
Somalia on the other hand was alway prized for it strategic location and was colonized later than most african countries so euroepans could not extract from our country to the extend of other African countries. Somalia has coal and gemstone fields in the northwest, oil and gas in the northeast. uranium and iron in the center of the country, lush fertile lands in the south and the longest coastline with the best fisheries in Africa. heck an entire plate boundary is name after us: the Somali plate. the fact is that Somalia has greatness in it future and you whining over the Internet isn't going to change that.
50-100,0000 are too many in bantu countries. You will may find a handful of bantus, if any, in HOA and Northern sudan. Bantu east African countries economies have maintain growth despite the world economic slump. They have also recently hit huge deposit of oil and gas that these countries may make arabia oil look chicken feed.

What is strategic about somalia? LOL! somalia is no force capable of interfering with the flow of trade the red sea. You don't have a reasonably well run country for investors to have interest in somalia. Somalia will always be a time bomb waiting to go off. No one will invest in it. If you are lucky to find oil or something the west values you may get some investment. But your future looks bad my friend you may never see somalia become anything close to Kenya in your life time. The moment Bantu Amison leave, expect fighting to flare up. You can take that to the bank and cash it it in.

Don't worry though, you will be getting more korans and other islamic literature from your arabs friends for your madrassas instead of food aid to save lives. LOL!
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Bantu east African countries have also recently hit huge deposit of oil and gas that these countries may make arabia oil look chicken feed.
"Yet it is the extent of oil deposits beneath the Indian Ocean that is most exciting Somali officials. The potential was comparable to that of Kuwait, which has more than 100bn barrels of proven oil reserves. The deposits would eclipse Nigeria's reserves 37.2bn barrels and make Somalia the seventh largest oil-rich nation."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/25/b...

Your wannabe rich and wealthy Bantu country Kenya is begging for a small block of oil worth nothing because it is probably more than their entire economy:

"Somalia's government accused Kenya on Friday of awarding offshore oil and gas exploration blocks illegally to multinationals Total and Eni because the concessions lie in waters claimed by Somalia"

http://horn.so/somalia-challenges-kenya-over-...
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"Yet it is the extent of oil deposits beneath the Indian Ocean that is most exciting Somali officials. The potential was comparable to that of Kuwait, which has more than 100bn barrels of proven oil reserves. The deposits would eclipse Nigeria's reserves 37.2bn barrels and make Somalia the seventh largest oil-rich nation."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/25/b...
Your wannabe rich and wealthy Bantu country Kenya is begging for a small block of oil worth nothing because it is probably more than their entire economy:
"Somalia's government accused Kenya on Friday of awarding offshore oil and gas exploration blocks illegally to multinationals Total and Eni because the concessions lie in waters claimed by Somalia"
http://horn.so/somalia-challenges-kenya-over-...
Forget the offshore oil, id there is any. What are you going to do with it? LOL! Kenya ought to exploit the oil if you ask me. You will be fight each other the moment Amisom turns its back on you.

Bantu countries are well organized to not to be duped like Nigeria. Look how dat Angola is developing. It is about to enter the second world tier.

Mean while;
Massive Gas Fields Discovered Off Mozambique

International energy companies say they have discovered potentially massive natural gas fields off the coast of Mozambique.

Kenya Anchor to East African Oil Economy
Major international oil companies are taking a close look at the offshore oil potential in East African states. London-listed explorer Tullow Oil said it was interested in fast-tracking its developments in Kenya and Italian energy company Eni announced recently it signed three production sharing contracts awarded by the Kenyan government. Tullow said it envisions a potential export pipeline to service the region from neighbouring Uganda. With Kenya serving as a key negotiator in regional issues, including nearby South Sudan, frontier developments in the region may be more than a matter of exploration success.
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I pity your bias towards the truth. Then again you are a Negro and can't help it:

Ibn-al Libax(1232)(Tarikh al-Afrikaan)(Guide to the white pearl of the Indian ocean)

"The lack of brain on the Bantu woman was increasingly astounding, the shamelessness of it to class oneself as human (nisa al-qerd). When a Bantu women is figuring out how to breathe the air, a task so simple and natural she falls into a deep trance of confusion due to her mental paralysis and lack of brain width. She scratches her cursed knotty hair in a mere attempt to summon human intelligence however her specie has been studied by the slavs (al-slaaf) in the northern hemispheric plate and they concluded that she is the living ancestor of thoughtless apes. The Bantu woman makes a living through the remnants of her deceased children and shares them in a ritual between her entire village where they mercilessly eat the child starting with his/her brain in a bid to gain knowledge (not that anything was in the brain of the deceased from the same specie). I have been made aware they eat the noses of travellers or anyone with a nose more aquiline than theirs as there exists a childish-like mythology among them whereby superiority, knowledge and even village cheifship is gained through the digestion of foreign features that appear more petite in comparison to their own. I have never seen anything to this extent of inhumanity, never have my eyes witnessed such primitiveness and lack of thought processing - may God give them brains and some form of mental processing."

http://www.ezakwantu.com/Pedi%20Duggan-Cronin ...
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I pity your bias towards the truth. Then again you are a Negro and can't help it:
Ibn-al Libax(1232)(Tarikh al-Afrikaan)(Guide to the white pearl of the Indian ocean)
"The lack of brain on the Bantu woman was increasingly astounding, the shamelessness of it to class oneself as human (nisa al-qerd). When a Bantu women is figuring out how to breathe the air, a task so simple and natural she falls into a deep trance of confusion due to her mental paralysis and lack of brain width. She scratches her cursed knotty hair in a mere attempt to summon human intelligence however her specie has been studied by the slavs (al-slaaf) in the northern hemispheric plate and they concluded that she is the living ancestor of thoughtless apes. The Bantu woman makes a living through the remnants of her deceased children and shares them in a ritual between her entire village where they mercilessly eat the child starting with his/her brain in a bid to gain knowledge (not that anything was in the brain of the deceased from the same specie). I have been made aware they eat the noses of travellers or anyone with a nose more aquiline than theirs as there exists a childish-like mythology among them whereby superiority, knowledge and even village cheifship is gained through the digestion of foreign features that appear more petite in comparison to their own. I have never seen anything to this extent of inhumanity, never have my eyes witnessed such primitiveness and lack of thought processing - may God give them brains and some form of mental processing."
http://www.ezakwantu.com/Pedi%20Duggan-Cronin ...
Idiot. Am i supposed to get hurt by that nonsense? Get real! LOL! Open your eyes and look around. Compared to bantu you somalis are nothing. This goes for intelligence too.
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Compared to bantu you somalis are nothing. This goes for intelligence too.
I don't know if you are deluded or not but surely suffering from some sort of mental paralysis that has been concluded from studies on your kind.

Bantu summary/Cultural background information:

>Education levels may be inconsistent or low. Some adults have never attended school and do not read or write in their own language

>Most Bantus have never lived with electricity or been exposed to any other aspects of modern living

>Bantus have lived for ten years on world food program rations of maize (corn), beans, lentils, oil, flour and salt.

http://www.somalibantucommunity.org/id19.html
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50-100,0000 are too many in bantu countries. You will may find a handful of bantus, if any, in HOA and Northern sudan. Bantu east African countries economies have maintain growth despite the world economic slump. They have also recently hit huge deposit of oil and gas that these countries may make arabia oil look chicken feed.
What is strategic about somalia? LOL! somalia is no force capable of interfering with the flow of trade the red sea. You don't have a reasonably well run country for investors to have interest in somalia. Somalia will always be a time bomb waiting to go off. No one will invest in it. If you are lucky to find oil or something the west values you may get some investment. But your future looks bad my friend you may never see somalia become anything close to Kenya in your life time. The moment Bantu Amison leave, expect fighting to flare up. You can take that to the bank and cash it it in.
Don't worry though, you will be getting more korans and other islamic literature from your arabs friends for your madrassas instead of food aid to save lives. LOL!
I would never want my country to be like Kenya.their politicians are the most corrupt on the continent, take about unscrupulous they would rather the country descent into civil war to win a lousy election. Kenyan politics and society looks like Somalia in the 80s. the kikuya continue to steal land in the rift valley. Pitting kikuya settlers against the Kalenji. you have successionist along the coast. Oil is found in Turkana destined for the international market while the samburu and the Turkana die of starvation. Kenya is he largest exporter of agricultural fruits and vegetables, coffee and tea and long stem rosses. but in Kibera slump hundred of thousand survive on food aid in the capital Niarobi and millions more depend on NGOs through Kenya. what exactly should you be so please about that Kenya is best economy on the worst continent on the planet surely my people can do better than to look at Kenya as a model.

one more than a resent UN statistic shows that 1 million black Africans try to reach Europe every year exactly what Eden are they fleeing from.
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I pity your bias towards the truth. Then again you are a Negro and can't help it:
Ibn-al Libax(1232)(Tarikh al-Afrikaan)(Guide to the white pearl of the Indian ocean)
"The lack of brain on the Bantu woman was increasingly astounding, the shamelessness of it to class oneself as human (nisa al-qerd). When a Bantu women is figuring out how to breathe the air, a task so simple and natural she falls into a deep trance of confusion due to her mental paralysis and lack of brain width. She scratches her cursed knotty hair in a mere attempt to summon human intelligence however her specie has been studied by the slavs (al-slaaf) in the northern hemispheric plate and they concluded that she is the living ancestor of thoughtless apes. The Bantu woman makes a living through the remnants of her deceased children and shares them in a ritual between her entire village where they mercilessly eat the child starting with his/her brain in a bid to gain knowledge (not that anything was in the brain of the deceased from the same specie). I have been made aware they eat the noses of travellers or anyone with a nose more aquiline than theirs as there exists a childish-like mythology among them whereby superiority, knowledge and even village cheifship is gained through the digestion of foreign features that appear more petite in comparison to their own. I have never seen anything to this extent of inhumanity, never have my eyes witnessed such primitiveness and lack of thought processing - may God give them brains and some form of mental processing."
http://www.ezakwantu.com/Pedi%20Duggan-Cronin ...
MRoyalty walaal don't ruin this thread I would rather this topic didn't descend into the dissing match between you and other. this topic started civil enough we don't have to post what dead Arabs to make a point.
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MRoyalty walaal don't ruin this thread I would rather this topic didn't descend into the dissing match between you and other. this topic started civil enough we don't have to post what dead Arabs to make a point.
It is actually a Somali called Al-Libax lol.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/somalia/TDP9...
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I would never want my country to be like Kenya.their politicians are the most corrupt on the continent, take about unscrupulous they would rather the country descent into civil war to win a lousy election. Kenyan politics and society looks like Somalia in the 80s. the kikuya continue to steal land in the rift valley. Pitting kikuya settlers against the Kalenji. you have successionist along the coast. Oil is found in Turkana destined for the international market while the samburu and the Turkana die of starvation. Kenya is he largest exporter of agricultural fruits and vegetables, coffee and tea and long stem rosses. but in Kibera slump hundred of thousand survive on food aid in the capital Niarobi and millions more depend on NGOs through Kenya. what exactly should you be so please about that Kenya is best economy on the worst continent on the planet surely my people can do better than to look at Kenya as a model.
one more than a resent UN statistic shows that 1 million black Africans try to reach Europe every year exactly what Eden are they fleeing from.
Kenya has over 40 different tribes living side by side quite peace. Remember democracy in new in Kenya. There are bound to be problem at the early stages of development. Kenya is moving forward. The middle class is growing. There not better path than that Kenya is on. Democracy as practiced in more developed countries will tak root. Don't worry about Kenya. Worry about somalia should Amisom withdraw tomorrow. The discovery of oil is going to boost the Kenya economy big time. BTW, the oil discovered in kenya has not even left the ground. So no kenyans are being left out.

Dude you can not compare the corruption in somalia to Kenya. You have a long way to get were Kenya is at.
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Kenya has over 40 different tribes living side by side quite peace. Remember democracy in new in Kenya. There are bound to be problem at the early stages of development. Kenya is moving forward. The middle class is growing. There not better path than that Kenya is on. Democracy as practiced in more developed countries will tak root. Don't worry about Kenya. Worry about somalia should Amisom withdraw tomorrow. The discovery of oil is going to boost the Kenya economy big time. BTW, the oil discovered in kenya has not even left the ground. So no kenyans are being left out.
Dude you can not compare the corruption in somalia to Kenya. You have a long way to get were Kenya is at.
"Kenya has over 40 different tribes living side by side quite peace."

Are you sure?

https://www.google.co.uk/search...
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Every election they butcher each other, lmao! All the Somalis prepare for this by stocking up. They sit at home and watch on the news while the dumb Kenyan monsters attack each other because their favourite monkey didn't win, no remorse.

Sporadic attacks continue in divided Kenya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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More merciless killing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Lightning,

You know, you seem more analytic than the vast majority of Somalis on this forum so I think we can have an honest discussion about this. Honestly, I don't think there is a future for Bantus in Somalia. The reason why I say this is because of the mentality of the Somali people today. They are not open to outside change. I see this even in a multicultural city like Toronto where change is everywhere. Somali people still think they live in the time of their grandfather's grandfather. A time when Bantus were slaves in Somalia, when Somalia was known as a great trading center and when Somalia was at peace. They don't realize how being stuck in time like this has stopped them from learning and advancing as a society. They'd rather talk about their lineage and physical features that make them identifiable as Somali. Bantus in Somalia cannot progress in a society like this and Somali society definitely cannot prepare them for the future ahead. They are better off leaving Somalia for now, maybe forever because Somali society needs to get out of the "stuck in the 1600-1800s" mentality and come into 2013. Education, work ethic, ability to co-exist peacefully with those around you, character, these are the things people are starting to value more and more as the world becomes more globalized. Bantus need to move to nations that promote this and not live is societies that follow the "who was your grandfather's grandfather" rule. Nobody outside of Somalia gives a damn about a Somali's lineage or what importance the Somali thinks his lineage gives him. Given the kind of resistance to change I see with Somalis in Toronto today, I think it would take a century or more for Somalia to actually get past its' issues. I don't think Bantus in Somalia should wait that long for what they could get now if they just cross the border into another black African country.
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" Nobody outside of Somalia gives a damn about a Somali's lineage or what importance the Somali thinks his lineage gives him."

Lol, clearly you do since you're Black and living in Canada.

Lineage gives you importance always - something you would never know about.

*Discussion this, discussion that* Look, we don't like you, so f*ck off? how hard is that to swallow? goodness sake.
Lightning

Saylorsburg, PA

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Mar 1, 2013
 
BLKCDN wrote:
Lightning,
You know, you seem more analytic than the vast majority of Somalis on this forum so I think we can have an honest discussion about this. Honestly, I don't think there is a future for Bantus in Somalia. The reason why I say this is because of the mentality of the Somali people today. They are not open to outside change. I see this even in a multicultural city like Toronto where change is everywhere. Somali people still think they live in the time of their grandfather's grandfather. A time when Bantus were slaves in Somalia, when Somalia was known as a great trading center and when Somalia was at peace. They don't realize how being stuck in time like this has stopped them from learning and advancing as a society. They'd rather talk about their lineage and physical features that make them identifiable as Somali. Bantus in Somalia cannot progress in a society like this and Somali society definitely cannot prepare them for the future ahead. They are better off leaving Somalia for now, maybe forever because Somali society needs to get out of the "stuck in the 1600-1800s" mentality and come into 2013. Education, work ethic, ability to co-exist peacefully with those around you, character, these are the things people are starting to value more and more as the world becomes more globalized. Bantus need to move to nations that promote this and not live is societies that follow the "who was your grandfather's grandfather" rule. Nobody outside of Somalia gives a damn about a Somali's lineage or what importance the Somali thinks his lineage gives him. Given the kind of resistance to change I see with Somalis in Toronto today, I think it would take a century or more for Somalia to actually get past its' issues. I don't think Bantus in Somalia should wait that long for what they could get now if they just cross the border into another black African country.
although I agree with some of what you said, there are Somethings I don't agree with. valuing once ancestry:lineage is not a sign of backwardness. Asians especially the Chinese worship their ancestors literally. they view all cultures and race as inferior to them and they tend to be more insular most Asians culture are a like that it only on the west that multiculturalism is praise. the china are now the second largest economy and they can get away with close minded society because of their economic might in ways that poors couldn't never could. the Chinese look to the 5k past while striving for the future. the west can not fight so them so the they co-opt them but african will always be weak it does matter which country the Somalia bantu run to.

I don't think you should throw in the towel. Somalia has alot of problem it has tribal, class,race,caste and gender issue but they aren't insurmountable really nothing worthwhile ever come easy. I am kind of the glass half kind of guy really pessimism will literally make you depressed in the west . it kind of cliche but you got to keep hope alive.

peace

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