wadani

UK

#243 May 10, 2012
CAN ALL OF U STOP URGING ABOUT ISLAM
THIS IS SOMALI FORUM NOT
ISLAMIC FORUM.

if u have a question about Islam is different but this argument takes u nowhere.

Islam is serious religioun.

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#244 May 10, 2012
Somalisthefuture wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a wadaad learn Somali before you start saying stuff. Stop answering question with question and answer the question. What are you getting out of dissing the Muslims.
Haye wadaad matihid, sufina ma tihid we know that with 100% certainty LOL and you're not salafi either. So, are you owliyo?

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#245 May 10, 2012
Zeynab wrote:
<quoted text>Haye wadaad matihid, sufina ma tihid we know that with 100% certainty LOL and you're not salafi either. So, are you owliyo?
no I'm not that either

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#246 May 10, 2012
INSEARCH_OF wrote:
<quoted text>Can you tell me how it makes sense to you? How is your character dependent on the length of your pants? Will your spirit get automatically get corrupted if you wear pants below your ankles? How does it happen bal ii faahfaahi.
ok
kuku

Satellite Provider

#247 May 10, 2012
Cooler than cool wrote:
<quoted text>i've noticed you were here since last night don't you have anything better to do? are you a south african? Do yo know the meaning of ponyoto? get a life zuzu
now what rat hole did u come out from,i bet slums of soweto,we in Jo'burg aint got tyme for ponyoto
Shekh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#248 May 10, 2012
kuku wrote:
<quoted text> now what rat hole did u come out from,i bet slums of soweto,we in Jo'burg aint got tyme for ponyoto
what are you doing in Jo'burg? are you Eugene Terreblanche widow's maid? You didn't disappoint your cousins back in puntland.
kuku

Satellite Provider

#249 May 10, 2012
hooyo wrote:
<quoted text>waryaa cool quit trolling
i aint cool, he's a loser
kuku

Satellite Provider

#250 May 10, 2012
Shekh Voodoo wrote:
<quoted text>
what are you doing in Jo'burg? are you Eugene Terreblanche widow's maid? You didn't disappoint your cousins back in puntland.
dont even start with me ,that guy killed ma fellow n****rz.who gives a shithole about puntland,i am of % republic of Somalia,
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#251 May 10, 2012
kuku wrote:
<quoted text> dont even start with me ,that guy killed ma fellow n****rz.who gives a shithole about puntland,i am of % republic of Somalia,
my apologies kuku, i thought you were that Cool bloke.
kuku

Satellite Provider

#252 May 10, 2012
Hanna wrote:
How has this thread turned into a sect discussion? Which user is responsible of starting this talk? Because this thread was suppose to be about me!
Salafi=Sunnah=the right path. Now shut up.
Anyway who is responsible of starting thuis talk.
HATE THE GAME ..........girl
kuku

Satellite Provider

#253 May 10, 2012
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
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my apologies kuku, i thought you were that Cool bloke.
he's got a nice name, but from slums.

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#254 May 10, 2012
kuku wrote:
<quoted text>he's got a nice name, but from slums.
hello old friend
cognito

San Jose, CA

#255 May 10, 2012
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
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Why am I misguided? Let me ask you a serious question. mohamed says in a hadith, there will be 73 different Islamic sects and only one of them will be guided and enter heaven and the other 72 sects will be misqguided and will be roasted in hell, which one is it?
“Verily those who split up their religion and became sects, you have absolutely nothing to do with them." [Holy Qur'an 6:159]

[30:32](Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what they have.

[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves. If it were not for a predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for a definite interim, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited the scripture are full of doubts.

So we can see clearly Allah Warned about sects 1400 years ago and today we can clearly see the sects in islam are more than 72
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not die before he had shown the way clearly to his ummah [nation]. At the end of the last Hajj [pilgrimage] performed by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) there was revealed the aayah [verse](interpretation of the meaning):
“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”[al-Maa’idah 5:3]

http://www.islamandsects.com/

it seem to me u got the concept/idea to support ur reasoning of conversion or becoming of X-Islam from the following:

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Quest-the...

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#256 May 10, 2012
cognito wrote:
“Verily those who split up their religion and became sects, you have absolutely nothing to do with them." [Holy Qur'an 6:159]

[30:32](Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what they have.

[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves. If it were not for a predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for a definite interim, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited the scripture are full of doubts.

So we can see clearly Allah Warned about sects 1400 years ago and today we can clearly see the sects in islam are more than 72
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not die before he had shown the way clearly to his ummah [nation]. At the end of the last Hajj [pilgrimage] performed by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) there was revealed the aayah [verse](interpretation of the meaning):
“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”[al-Maa’idah 5:3]

http://www.islamandsects.com/

it seem to me u got the concept/idea to support ur reasoning of conversion or becoming of X-Islam from the following:

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Quest-the...
true.
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#257 May 10, 2012
cognito wrote:
<quoted text>
“Verily those who split up their religion and became sects, you have absolutely nothing to do with them." [Holy Qur'an 6:159]
[30:32](Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what they have.
[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves. If it were not for a predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for a definite interim, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited the scripture are full of doubts.
So we can see clearly Allah Warned about sects 1400 years ago and today we can clearly see the sects in islam are more than 72
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not die before he had shown the way clearly to his ummah [nation]. At the end of the last Hajj [pilgrimage] performed by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) there was revealed the aayah [verse](interpretation of the meaning):
“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”[al-Maa’idah 5:3]
http://www.islamandsects.com/
it seem to me u got the concept/idea to support ur reasoning of conversion or becoming of X-Islam from the following:
http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Quest-the...
I dont know if it is your lack of comprehension, or your love for wahabism (shopping arround koran interpretations from medina press, saudi arabia), the question at hand is did allah mention that muslims will become 73 sects and only one sect will enter heaven? mind you there are over 400 islamic sects at the moment.
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#258 May 10, 2012
Somalisthefuture wrote:
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true.
your friend cognito is on your side defending islam, but his source is from us (former muslims). like most somalis, he couldnt understand what he was copying but heard/read an ayat and hadith and became emotional. i used to see somalis praying in an ahmediya mosque and after few months when i enquired them about it, they had no idea and fled. they couldnt even understand the friday kutabh.

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Quest-the...

"People living in non kafir lands are actually unaware about the controversies and grave differences among the sects. About each and every above mentioned sect is saying other kafir. It is impossible to remove differences among the shia’s and sunnis. Koran and hadith is full of confusions."

he is right on the money.
cognito

San Jose, CA

#259 May 10, 2012
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont know if it is your lack of comprehension, or your love for wahabism (shopping arround koran interpretations from medina press, saudi arabia), the question at hand is did allah mention that muslims will become 73 sects and only one sect will enter heaven? mind you there are over 400 islamic sects at the moment.
in case of contradiction or ambiguity Quran would take precedence over hadith…as to the questions u keep posing u got the ur answer in that site, unless of course u have a comprehension problem!

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#260 May 10, 2012
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
<quoted text>your friend cognito is on your side defending islam, but his source is from us (former muslims). like most somalis, he couldnt understand what he was copying but heard/read an ayat and hadith and became emotional. i used to see somalis praying in an ahmediya mosque and after few months when i enquired them about it, they had no idea and fled. they couldnt even understand the friday kutabh.

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Quest-the...

"People living in non kafir lands are actually unaware about the controversies and grave differences among the sects. About each and every above mentioned sect is saying other kafir. It is impossible to remove differences among the shiaÂ’s and sunnis. Koran and hadith is full of confusions."

he is right on the money.
"Whomever Allah guides, no one can misguide, and whomever Allah misguides, no one can guide." Salam

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#261 May 10, 2012
cognito wrote:
<quoted text>in case of contradiction or ambiguity Quran would take precedence over hadithÂ…as to the questions u keep posing u got the ur answer in that site, unless of course u have a comprehension problem!
I'm sure he does.
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#262 May 10, 2012
cognito wrote:
<quoted text>
in case of contradiction or ambiguity Quran would take precedence over hadith…as to the questions u keep posing u got the ur answer in that site, unless of course u have a comprehension problem!
The koran itself contradicts on many ayats, but let me pick those two ayats and find out the reason why they contradict.

Is Islam peaceful or violent?

(2:256). No compulsion in islam: living in harmony with others.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,".

(9:29). Kill the un-believers till they convert to Islam.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,".

the reason is simple, when mohamed was weak during the first 13 years of his prophethood at his hometown of Mecca, he preached love, humanity and tolerance towards others.

When he was expelled from mecca and migrated to yathrib (medina), the jews of yathrib welcomed him since he was preaching love and brotherhood for the people of the book (jews, christians and muslims). but once, he became a strong warlord, he unleashed all these violent verses and his reign of terror, rape and murder commenced.

it is not a book of god but from a ruthless maniac who was seeking submission.

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