Somali Nationalist

Chingford, UK

#220 Mar 24, 2013
Any normal person would condemn slavery and yet i see so much xaasidnimo in this thread. Are you gloating in the fact that millions of people were enslaved and by sheer luck your ancestors were not?. Do you honestly think Somalis of the time could defend or defeat the superior weaponry and military of the countries who partook in this inhumane industry?. Slavery wasn't exclusive to the whites and Arabs , it is has been proven that nearly all human populations in early pre-history enslaved the surviving women and young men of competing tribes. I doubt there is a person in the world who isn't descended from slaves unless they would like to claim people in their ancestral linage never lost a battle in the last 100,000 years.

Since: May 12

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#223 Mar 25, 2013
Zak wrote:
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Your not telling the the whole truth but only a part of it. Somalis had to deal with more wars than the rest of africa combined FACT somalis would rather die then be taken as slaves FACT MANY MANY europeans and arabs tried to take somali slaves FACT When arabs and europeans combined to try to take to somalis as slaves they found out to their surprise that somalis would kill their enemy and themselves if it came down to it FACT
If you don't believe me research ogadenia the region now claimed by ethiopians after somalia was forcefully divided by the europeans they tried to take somali slaves from this region and all the somali fought to the death. You see? the only way somalis were taken as slaves were to kill all the men and take a few women and children, so who are the women gonna reproduce with? NOONE thats why there is no somali slaves anywhere in the world the real reason why somalis were never slaves how do you explain Millions of pure western african exslaves in america ?
I'm not somali but that is the real reason slavery has nothing to do with religion and is banned by relgions, how do you explain Americans taking western african slaves who worshiped the same christain god?
Your just jelous of the miracle known as somalia, Give respect to the only blacks who enslaved whites and were never enlsaved themselves ie somalis
People keep making the same stupid mistake. When slaves were taken from West Africa, they were not Christians, they had no religion and most had had little or no contact with Europeans prior to their enslavement.

It's silly to say people are jealous of Somali; if these foolish ones constantly trying to pretend they are better than other Black Africans stopped their bull; I'd respect them all. I embrace all Africans and think they need to get over this insecurity of who is better worse.

Somali today is suffering and like we have already shown their people are being enslaved today. I see this as nothing to gloat about unlike some of these daft somali's on here. I just don't understand the low self esteem in some of their men were they constantly need to put someone down only so they can find something they can say they are better in.

Is this because they feel they are not better in anything else?
thehassanabdi

Halesowen, UK

#224 Mar 26, 2013
Somali Nationalist wrote:
Any normal person would condemn slavery and yet i see so much xaasidnimo in this thread. Are you gloating in the fact that millions of people were enslaved and by sheer luck your ancestors were not?. Do you honestly think Somalis of the time could defend or defeat the superior weaponry and military of the countries who partook in this inhumane industry?. Slavery wasn't exclusive to the whites and Arabs , it is has been proven that nearly all human populations in early pre-history enslaved the surviving women and young men of competing tribes. I doubt there is a person in the world who isn't descended from slaves unless they would like to claim people in their ancestral linage never lost a battle in the last 100,000 years.
She-male why are you calling yourself "Somali Nationalist"? Why? boggles mind really!

Since: Jan 10

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#225 Mar 26, 2013
mandingowillsay wrote:
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People keep making the same stupid mistake. When slaves were taken from West Africa, they were not Christians, they had no religion and most had had little or no contact with Europeans prior to their enslavement.
It's silly to say people are jealous of Somali; if these foolish ones constantly trying to pretend they are better than other Black Africans stopped their bull; I'd respect them all. I embrace all Africans and think they need to get over this insecurity of who is better worse.
Somali today is suffering and like we have already shown their people are being enslaved today. I see this as nothing to gloat about unlike some of these daft somali's on here. I just don't understand the low self esteem in some of their men were they constantly need to put someone down only so they can find something they can say they are better in.
Is this because they feel they are not better in anything else?
The whole "we were never slaves" thing is the only leg of self-esteem that some are standing on.Take that away what do you have left to be proud of?Yeah.
Anonymous

Louisville, KY

#226 Mar 26, 2013
Somalia were slaves so stop these none sense.. why don't you guys do something positive for your time while you guys claiming none black we are arabs lol ,,,stop the insecurity and move on your life.
lkk

Aberdeen, UK

#227 Mar 27, 2013
Dyna_girl wrote:
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The whole "we were never slaves" thing is the only leg of self-esteem that some are standing on.Take that away what do you have left to be proud of?Yeah.
We led the longest resistant and biggest resistant in African during the European colonization. Unlike other Africans we were equipped with modern weapon and could not be defeated until the Europeans decided using air bombers.

And yes we were never even slave even after the British airforce as well as their troops defeated us they never enslaved us. Your ancestors the bantus were forced to work in plantations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish_state
lkk

Aberdeen, UK

#228 Mar 27, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
Somalia were slaves so stop these none sense.. why don't you guys do something positive for your time while you guys claiming none black we are arabs lol ,,,stop the insecurity and move on your life.
Do you have any evidence? Of course not, you're talking without thinking. Here's an idea: pick up a book and get educated.

Since: Jan 10

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#229 Mar 27, 2013
lkk wrote:
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We led the longest resistant and biggest resistant in African during the European colonization. Unlike other Africans we were equipped with modern weapon and could not be defeated until the Europeans decided using air bombers.
And yes we were never even slave even after the British airforce as well as their troops defeated us they never enslaved us. Your ancestors the bantus were forced to work in plantations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish_state
I dont care what my ancestors did.Im not a slave in the 21st century.But what are you.Just some broke bitter fool on some soapbox barking about the past because you have no future.
Abdul Akh

London, UK

#230 Mar 28, 2013
mandingowillsay wrote:
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You are simply making up stories in a childish and juvenile tit for tat match. Show Nigerians being chased in Libya you fool? Why are you jealous of Nigerians? Did you know Somalia is one of the poorest educated countries in Africa? That they are one of the poorest and most crime ridden states too?
Why don't you sort that out instead of coming here to attack people who tell you your real history; the history you choose to ignore.
I don't like talking to ignorant people...

Somalia has a goverment now and its improving, but nigeria is f-cked up and they have government already.. How many slams you lot have? Rahh I can't forget abt that programme on the bbc about the poor people in nigerian and how fake churches make money off poor people.. Why are nigerians everywher in europe claiming benefits, if their country is any better than somalia who was in civil war for time?

For nigerians being chased or to be more accurate "being killed" in Libya just type on google: nigerians in libya, that will enlighten you a bit..

I don't hate all nigerians, I hate the stupid drug dealing, apes looking nigerians who live in nigeria, not the muslim nigerians (the 90 million nigerian muslims are the real nigerians to me and they are more respected by us)..

Don't expect me to reply ...
Abdul Akh

London, UK

#231 Mar 28, 2013
mandingowillsay wrote:
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"Before even checking you so called link for the so called evidence, that sentense, whether its true or not, tells the story.
"Kidnapped"
Just to show how stupid you are; how do you think most African slaves were acquired fool?
Many slaves were kidnapped by either slavers or rival tribes you complete fool.
Nope! The West African kings did not sell their own people you fool, they always captured slaves from rival tribes, even some Cushites and Fullah etc.
This was before the Kongo king and Angolan queen actually started to wage war against slavers. The queen of Angola stopped all trade in slave from her kingdom. You are such a stupid asshole and disgrace to Africa. You have nothing to be proud of so you start trying to slander other parts of Africa to draw pride in places you have none you stupid monkey.
You have picked up on just one example the other guy gave about slavery in Somalia; but you have been given over 15 separate examples by the same guy about slavery in Somalia. We even gave examples of Somali's being enslaved today. You need to get a grip you stupid little asshole; try and find some pride in the type of things other Africans are proud about today.
Look at Somalia today and shut your damn mouth up.
"West african kings did not sell their people you idiot"

What do you know about the ancestors of yours mate?
The struggle they faced and how they were betrayed by their kings?

The real fool is you..

Here is little bit of reading for you but do your own research about the life of your ancestors who were enslaved..

Thousands of records of transactions are available on a CDROM prepared by Harvard University and several comprehensive books have been published recently on the origins of modern slavery (namely, Hugh Thomas' The Slave Trade and Robin Blackburn's The Making Of New World Slavery) that shed new light on centuries of slave trading.
What these records show is that the modern slave trade flourished in the early middle ages, as early as 869, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms. For moralists, the most important aspect of that trade should be that Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people. In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves.

That's about ancestors history (non muslim west africans)..

Lastly, we can't discuss about somalia when you don't know about your history..

Have a nice day mate, be happy, your ancestors lived the hard unimaginable life FOR YOU...

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#232 Mar 28, 2013
Abdul Akh wrote:
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I don't like talking to ignorant people...
Somalia has a goverment now and its improving, but nigeria is f-cked up and they have government already.. How many slams you lot have? Rahh I can't forget abt that programme on the bbc about the poor people in nigerian and how fake churches make money off poor people.. Why are nigerians everywher in europe claiming benefits, if their country is any better than somalia who was in civil war for time?
For nigerians being chased or to be more accurate "being killed" in Libya just type on google: nigerians in libya, that will enlighten you a bit..
I don't hate all nigerians, I hate the stupid drug dealing, apes looking nigerians who live in nigeria, not the muslim nigerians (the 90 million nigerian muslims are the real nigerians to me and they are more respected by us)..
Don't expect me to reply ...
Let the links speak for themselves; Seems in none of these situations did being Muslim help Somalis.

http://sabahionline.com/en_GB/articles/hoa/ar...

http://www.raxanreeb.com/2013/03/somalia-two-...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-150764...

http://allafrica.com/stories/201206191425.htm...

"Somalia: 10 Somali Businessmen Killed in South Africa"

http://www.vocfm.co.za/index.php...

"45 CTN Somalis killed in 2012"

http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/20...

"Somali-Canadians caught in Alberta’s deadly drug trade"

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/...

"Why so many Somali-Canadians who go west end up dead"

Don't even try ya dumb fuck! Everywhere I look I see wannabe Somali fools who think they are still in Somalia being targeted and killed.

A Nigerian buyg Gatwick airport, A Nigerian is Managing director to the World Bank, Nigerians are the smartest kids in both the UK and USA.

"Estimates indicate that a disproportionate percentage of black students at elite universities are immigrants or children of immigrants. Nigerian immigrants have the highest education attainment level in the United States, surpassing every other ethnic group in the country, according to U.S Bureau Census data.[7] Harvard University, for example, has estimated that more than one-third of its black student body consists of recent immigrants or their children, or were mixed race.[8] Other top universities, such as Yale, Princeton, Penn, Columbia, Duke and Berkeley, report a similar pattern"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_America...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Nigerian

"British Nigerian pupils are one of the most successful groups academically, with 56% of black Nigerian pupils achieving 5 or more GCSEs at grades A* to C in 2005, compared to 55% of White British children in 2005 and 42% of black Caribbean pupils.[11]"

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ino jabarti

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#234 Mar 28, 2013
ur bragging about british nigerians.
why aren't you living in your glorious country.
oh wait,,,, ur government is crappy and the coumtry is in poverty.

somalis had had 20yrs of war. and there are numerous unoversities, schools and facilities, and public trnsport systems,,, all from people's pockets. the world cant beat the somali "pirates" who r just a bunch of poor guys with AKs and speed boats.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#235 Mar 28, 2013
Abdul Akh wrote:
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"West african kings did not sell their people you idiot"
What do you know about the ancestors of yours mate?
The struggle they faced and how they were betrayed by their kings?
The real fool is you..
Here is little bit of reading for you but do your own research about the life of your ancestors who were enslaved..
Thousands of records of transactions are available on a CDROM prepared by Harvard University and several comprehensive books have been published recently on the origins of modern slavery (namely, Hugh Thomas' The Slave Trade and Robin Blackburn's The Making Of New World Slavery) that shed new light on centuries of slave trading.
What these records show is that the modern slave trade flourished in the early middle ages, as early as 869, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms. For moralists, the most important aspect of that trade should be that Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people. In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves.
That's about ancestors history (non muslim west africans)..
Lastly, we can't discuss about somalia when you don't know about your history..
Have a nice day mate, be happy, your ancestors lived the hard unimaginable life FOR YOU...
Oh! And by the way the links you posted do not contradict what I said about how slaves were obtained maybe you should read them you dumb son of a camel.

http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.p...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/feat...

http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/...

Yes you turkey headed boggle eyed fuck, I'll conceded that some kings traded their own till they realised Trans Atlantic slavery was nothing like slavery i Africa and was a brutal, violent affair. Then African kins started to fight back.

But lets not lose sight that the West Europe had the largest slave population than any continent on the planet. 20% of European Whites were slaves. Slavs, Scots, Irish were all the first slaves before anyone else.

So do I feel shame about the past of Sub-Saharan Africa? Absolutely not. Do I think of what Africa tries to achieve today in the face of continued Western meddling yes I do.

And Somalia a nation of people with an identity crisis till this day does nothing for Africa, so shut the fuck! up and fix your country imbecile.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#236 Mar 28, 2013
ino jabarti wrote:
ur bragging about british nigerians.
why aren't you living in your glorious country.
oh wait,,,, ur government is crappy and the coumtry is in poverty.
somalis had had 20yrs of war. and there are numerous unoversities, schools and facilities, and public trnsport systems,,, all from people's pockets. the world cant beat the somali "pirates" who r just a bunch of poor guys with AKs and speed boats.
Somalis no matter how many Universities they have are still amongst the dumbest in the world.
Lmao! Who told you Nigeria is poverty stricken!! Ha ha! You are delusional.

Yes Nigeria has corrupt politicians; and Somalia is not run by those same pirates we see on TV everyday! Get the hell out of here.
thehassanabdi

UK

#237 Mar 28, 2013
mandingowillsay wrote:
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Oh! And by the way the links you posted do not contradict what I said about how slaves were obtained maybe you should read them you dumb son of a camel.
http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.p...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/feat...
http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/...
Yes you turkey headed boggle eyed fuck, I'll conceded that some kings traded their own till they realised Trans Atlantic slavery was nothing like slavery i Africa and was a brutal, violent affair. Then African kins started to fight back.
But lets not lose sight that the West Europe had the largest slave population than any continent on the planet. 20% of European Whites were slaves. Slavs, Scots, Irish were all the first slaves before anyone else.
So do I feel shame about the past of Sub-Saharan Africa? Absolutely not. Do I think of what Africa tries to achieve today in the face of continued Western meddling yes I do.
And Somalia a nation of people with an identity crisis till this day does nothing for Africa, so shut the fuck! up and fix your country imbecile.
The Oromo she-male aka "Cultural" somali is now a Mandingo! Talk of an Identity crisis including that of gender Lol

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#238 Mar 28, 2013
Dyna_girl wrote:
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The whole "we were never slaves" thing is the only leg of self-esteem that some are standing on.Take that away what do you have left to be proud of?Yeah.
They are the most insecure parasites I ever encountered always looking to bash the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa so they can feel better about themselves. What a bunch of losers.

In fact the only way they look good is if they bash the rest of Africa. If you think about the achievements of Africa Somalia gradually starts to disappear.

Funny that the only thing these fools are proud of is that they think they were not enslaved over 500 years ago.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#239 Mar 28, 2013
thehassanabdi wrote:
<quoted text>The Oromo she-male aka "Cultural" somali is now a Mandingo! Talk of an Identity crisis including that of gender Lol
"The Oromo she-male aka "Cultural" somali is now a Mandingo! Talk of an Identity crisis including that of gender Lol[/"

What the heck are you talking about turtle head? Where did I say I am Oromo or a woman you sick perverted loser? Are you gay? Is that why you hope men are women?
hooyo

Basel, Switzerland

#240 Mar 28, 2013
mandingowillsay wrote:
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They are the most insecure parasites I ever encountered always looking to bash the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa so they can feel better about themselves. What a bunch of losers.
In fact the only way they look good is if they bash the rest of Africa. If you think about the achievements of Africa Somalia gradually starts to disappear.
Funny that the only thing these fools are proud of is that they think they were not enslaved over 500 years ago.
madinga you're in wrong thread there is no slave in this forum
hooyo

Basel, Switzerland

#241 Mar 28, 2013
mandingowillsay wrote:
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"The Oromo she-male aka "Cultural" somali is now a Mandingo! Talk of an Identity crisis including that of gender Lol[/"
What the heck are you talking about turtle head? Where did I say I am Oromo or a woman you sick perverted loser? Are you gay? Is that why you hope men are women?
nah no midinga in somalia or here pl read the front page IS CALLED SOMALI FORUM
Ballayo

Toronto, Canada

#242 Mar 28, 2013
Had it maybe occured to anyone that Somalis, like the Arabs, were slave traders? That we sold Africans into slavery? That those people now are at the bottom of social system in places like India? Somalis even resisted Italian attempts to END slavery when it was realized by Europeans that it didn't make good economic sense to have slavery in a world that is industrializing. You have to ask why Somalis view other black people with the same hatred non-Africans have for black and a lot of that has to do with enslaving and dehumanizing other people for profit. Alas, the Quran said it was OK but the Quran never said racism was OK.

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