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#43 Mar 24, 2013
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
The Family.
"A secretive group known as The Fellowship, or "The Family," is one of the most powerful Christian fundamentalist movements in the United States. The Family’s devoted membership includes congressmen, corporate leaders, generals and foreign heads of state. Author Jeff Sharlet profiles the group in his book The Family:"
What was Siad Barre's relationship with this secretive Christian Movement? It starts @ 39.00.
AMY GOODMAN: And Siad Barre of Somalia?
JEFF SHARLET: Yeah, dictator of Somalia. It’s, to me, one of the scariest stories that I found in their archives. I was able to recreate this, because they dumped 600 boxes of papers in the Billy Graham archives. Siad Barre was a—not a likely candidate for Christian right recruitment, called himself a Koranic Marxist. But in the early ’80s, the Soviets had abandoned him. There had been a power shift between Somalia and Ethiopia. He was in the market for a new patron. And working through Senator Chuck Grassley, Republican of Iowa, of course still in office—
AMY GOODMAN: Talk more about Chuck Grassley, who certainly is in the news now, who, together with Max Baucus, heads the Senate Finance Committee.
JEFF SHARLET: Yeah.
AMY GOODMAN: Baucus, Democrat; Grassley, Republican. Very powerful figure, especially around healthcare right now.
JEFF SHARLET: Indeed. And Grassley has been involved with the organization for quite some time, since the ’80s, when he traveled to Somalia to join Barre, Siad Barre, in prayer to Jesus. And he brought with him a defense contractor named Bill Brehm.
And Barre was a kind of a cynical character, as you might expect for a dictator. He was very clear. He says,“I’m willing to pray to Jesus, and here’s what I want in return.” He says,“I want my defense budget doubled.” He says,“I want meetings for my officials with the Reagan White House. And I want a sort of a hands-off policy while I crack down on some rebels.” Doug Coe, the leader of the group, wrote back, in essence,“Done, done and done.”
And when we look at history, so it was. And Barre used those weapons, supplied to him in part by the US, to wage a war of almost biblical proportion on his own people, from which Somalia has not recovered to this day. The Family doesn’t consider that a failure; they consider that God’s will for Somalia.
" Jesus didn't come to somalia to take sides but to take over Somalia."
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/12/sharlet
Old news, but Barre was no christian, he was pragmatic and was looking for new allies at the time.
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#44 Mar 24, 2013
INSEARCH_OF wrote:
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Old news, but Barre was no christian, he was pragmatic and was looking for new allies at the time.
This man never gave a fck about any religion if he is willing to pray with these guys for jesus and his pragmatism was based on the notion to stay in power and get more weapons to kill more somalis. He told his old allies, the russians and the cubans that he was a koranic communist and they just scratched their heads how oxy-moronic his statement sounded.
Ruby

Derby, UK

#45 Mar 24, 2013
"Old news, but Barre was no christian, he was pragmatic and was looking for new allies at the time"

Yep, it certainly is old news. The idea of politicians pandering to groups in oder to gain support and favour is not a new revelation.
thehassanabdi

Sheffield, UK

#46 Mar 24, 2013
Sheikh Voodoo wrote:
<quoted text>
This man never gave a fck about any religion if he is willing to pray with these guys for jesus and his pragmatism was based on the notion to stay in power and get more weapons to kill more somalis. He told his old allies, the russians and the cubans that he was a koranic communist and they just scratched their heads how oxy-moronic his statement sounded.
Why EXACTLY do you talk to yourself? Do you think you belong here rather than a mental institution? Cajiib
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#47 Mar 24, 2013
Ruby wrote:
"Old news, but Barre was no christian, he was pragmatic and was looking for new allies at the time"
Yep, it certainly is old news. The idea of politicians pandering to groups in oder to gain support and favour is not a new revelation.
i wouldn't have called siad barre a "politician". some better words to describe him are despot, dictator, tyrant, totalitarian, murderer, narcissist and megalomaniac.

“Somali? of course.”

Since: Mar 13

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#48 Mar 24, 2013
'If you have to lie, then at least be good to it'

Somali saying.
MOH dDEMON nHUMAN attire

Caro, MI

#51 Mar 24, 2013
What happen to you Prince?
still no comment??
thehassanabdi

London, UK

#52 Mar 24, 2013
MOH dDEMON nHUMAN attire wrote:
What happen to you Prince?
still no comment??
Prince just realized what a PSYCHO you are!You should be in mental hospital NOT here
MOH dDEMON nHUMAN attire

Caro, MI

#53 Mar 24, 2013
thehassanabdi wrote:
<quoted text>Prince just realized what a PSYCHO you are!You should be in mental hospital NOT here
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Prince realized that to do not belong to UK
and that you belong inside the Animal Zoo where your closest chimpanzee brothers who had also with a thick lips like yours??
why not go there and sleep with them to REPRODUCE more chimpanzees?? hahahahahaha looool you are the true descendants of apess hahahahah! go home and F@@@ck with them!
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looK at urself in the mirror that never lies that you are indeed a chimp!
Sheikh Voodoo

Melbourne, Australia

#54 Mar 25, 2013
MOH dDEMON nHUMAN attire

please kindly, take your crap jesus the saviour comments to other threads. he couldn't save his own ass.

thanks

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