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NANI

Carson, CA

#30 Sep 2, 2012
SeektheTruth wrote:
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don't insult us. If Some Kenyans look a little Somali, its b/c Kenya is former colony of Somalia, they some of our have our beautiful dna. Nilotic people do not come from Somalia. lmao. Most Kenyans are bantu, and they look and behave like bantus.
You fool when was kenya colonised by a failed state?
Read your history instead of making it up!!
Inquisitor

Hamilton, Canada

#31 Sep 2, 2012
Kaffir wrote:
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All this is academic nonsense. The theory that Maasais were Nilo-Hamitic was created by Carl Meinhof. However, ever since Joseph Greenberg's theory the maasais are now considered fully Nilotic. You have to understand that these are THEORIES not facts.They have neither been proven nor disproven. All we know is that human beings belong to one species. Everything else is just half-baked theories and hypotheses that belong inside a university anthropology class.
Due to a confluence of circumstances such as migration and intermarriage, it is not possible to make exclusive classifications. I am pretty sure pockets of Somalis will be closer genetically to Yemenis than to other Somalis. Others will be closer to Banjuni than to other Somalis etc. Infact, did you know that 25% of the time a white European will be closer genetically to an African than to another European?
Somalis like any other ethnic group are not a homogenous group.It is genetically impossible. They will have influences from all over. Were it not for interbreeding, Somalis would have died out a long time ago due to inbreeding. The truth is a population has to intermarry or perish.
Well said. I think genetics will dispell a lot of these mythologies by showing that we, as in all human beings, are a mixed bag of genes from several iterations of homonids that led up to us. Our phenotypical diferences are blow out of proportion.

“Justice for all”

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#34 Sep 3, 2012
Al Shabab Hunter-Killer wrote:
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Museveni is a Banyankole. They are related to Tutsis in Rwanda. The Banyankole are classified as Bantu because their language is Bantoid but there is evidence that they may have been Nilotes a long time ago.
The late Congolese Dictator, Mobutu Seseseko, was from the Ngbandi tribe which is classified as Bantu because their language is Bantoid by their folklore places their origin in the Sudan and are Nilotes.
It is possible that populations classifioed as Nilotes today may have been Cushites or Bantu and vice versa. As people migrate and intermarry, cultures and languages change. So do the resulting academic classifications.
As for Prof. Saitoti, it appears he is Kikuyu. His name is George Kinuthia. This is a Kikuyu name. Since he is the eldest son in his family, it means that he was named after his paternal grandfather who must have been a Kikuyu.
This changes nothing because there is no pure Kikuyu. All Kikuyus have a maasai grand parent or great grand parent. As you might know, membership into the Kikuyu tribe is passed on by the mother and not by the father. This means that all Kikuyu women give birth to Kikuyu children regardless of the father's ethnicity. This is probably why the Kikuyu are the largest tribe in Kenya. A Kikuyu man who marries a non-Kikuyu woman cannot pass on his Kikuyuness (if there is such a thing) to his children.
Given that Saitoti's mother is a Kikuyu, that makes him a 100% Kikuyu.
I personally have uncles and aunts who maasai yet I have been socialised as a Kikuyu.
Aaaah nonsense you kikuyu are not maasai neither do you descend from them..
We are distinct people far removed from your bantu origins.

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#35 Sep 3, 2012
Zeynab wrote:
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You, Maasai, are negroes. Therefore, you cannot look like Somalis. Stupid negroes accept yourselves as the negroes you are with your gorilla daddy.
HA....Funny you are..We do not desire nor claim any relation to you.
Horus

Netherlands

#37 Sep 3, 2012
Zeynab wrote:
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You, Maasai, are negroes. Therefore, you cannot look like Somalis. Stupid negroes accept yourselves as the negroes you are with your gorilla daddy.
WRONG! The maasai are 50% caucasoid cushitic and 50 % nilotic. And remember that the nilotic people are a mix between early caucasoids and bushmen.

" The E1b1b clade was also observed in 71.9% of the Masalit, 59.4% of the Fur, 39.3% of the Nuba, 20% of the Shilluk, 16.7% of the Nuer, and 15% of the Dinka. Hassan et al. attributed the atypically high frequencies of the haplogroup in the Masalit to either a recent population bottleneck that likely altered the community's original haplogroup diversity or to geographical proximity to E1b1b's place of origin in North Africa, where the researchers suggest that the clade "might have been brought to Sudan from[...] after the progressive desertification of the Sahara around 6,0008,000 years ago".[12] Henn et al.(2008) similarly observed Afro-Asiatic influence in the Nilotic Datog of northern Tanzania, 43% of whom carried the M293 sub-clade of E1b1b.[13]"

The E1b1b haplogroup was also observed in 50% of the Maasai,[9] which is indicative of substantial gene flow into this population from Cushitic males.[11]

The authors also found that certain Nilotic populations in the eastern Great Lakes region, such as the Maasai, showed some additional Afro-Asiatic affinities due to repeated assimilation of Cushitic-speaking peoples over the past 5000 or so years.[15]

maasai = cushites + nilotics
Horus

Netherlands

#39 Sep 3, 2012
The maasai are part of the mediterranean race. Many nilo-saharan speakers like the toubou, nubians, masalit, turkana, maasai were originally mediterranean/hamitic afro-asiatic speakers who converted to nilo-saharan just like the mediterranean/hamitic fulani and tutsi converted to bantu languages.
If you cushites unite and make a standardized cushitic language it would be easy to convert the turkana, nubians, maasai back to cushitic.
" Giuseppe Sergi's much-debated book The Mediterranean Race (1901) argued that the Mediterranean race had in fact originated in Africa, probably in the Sahara region, and that it also included a number of dark-skinned peoples from the African continent, such as Ethiopians and Somalis. Sergi added that the Mediterranean race "in its external characters is a brown human variety, neither white nor neegrojd, but pure in its elements, that is to say not a product of the mixture of Whites with Ne gro es or neegrojd peoples."[10] In his book The Mediterranean Race, Sergi also hypothesized that the Mediterranean, the African and the Nordic races all originated from an original Eurafrican species.[11][12] According to Sergi, the Mediterranean race was the "greatest race of the world" and was singularly responsible for the most accomplished civilizations of ancient times, including those of Mesopotamia, Persia, Egypt, India, Carthage, Greece and Rome. To Sergi, the Semites were a branch of the Eurafricans who were closely related to the Mediterraneans.[13]
C. G. Seligman also stated that "it must, I think, be recognized that the Mediterranean race has actually more achievement to its credit than any other, since it is responsible for by far the greater part of Mediterranean civilization, certainly before 1000 B.C.(and probably much later), and so shaped not only the Aegean cultures, but those of Western as well as the greater part of Eastern Mediterranean lands, while the culture of their near relatives, the Hamitic pre-dynastic Egyptians, formed the basis of that of Egypt."[14]"
According to Carleton Coon, the "homeland and cradle" of the Mediterranean race is in North Africa and Southwest Asia, in the area from Morocco to Afghanistan/Pakistan and Northern India.[19] He argued that smaller Mediterraneans traveled by land from the Mediterranean basin north into Europe in the Mesolithic era. Taller Mediterraneans (Atlanto-Mediterraneans) were Neolithic seafarers who sailed in reed-type boats and colonized the Mediterranean basin from a Near Eastern origin. He argued that they also colonized Britain where their descendants may be seen today, characterized by dark brown hair, dark eyes and robust features. He stressed the central role of the Mediterraneans in his works, claiming "The Mediterraneans occupy the center of the stage; their areas of greatest concentration are precisely those where civilization is the oldest. This is to be expected, since it was they who produced it and it, in a sense, that produced them".[19]
In his book The Mediterranean Race (1901) Sergi argued that there was a distinct Hamitic racial group which could be divided into two sub-groups: The northern Hamites, which comprised Berbers, Toubou, Fulani and the Guanches; the Eastern branch, which comprised Egyptians, Nubians, Ethiopians, Oromo, Somali, and Tutsis.[7] Some of these groups had "lost their language" and so had to be identified by physical characteristics. In Sergi's theory, the Mediterraneans were the "greatest race in the world", and had expanded north and south from the Horn of Africa, creating superior civilizations.[2][8] Sergi described the original European peoples as "Eurafricans". The ancient Greeks and Italians were born from "Afro-Mediterraneans " who migrated from western Asia and had originally spoken a Hamitic language before the advent of Indo-European languages.[8]
conclusion: the nilo-saharan toubou, fur, maasalit, maasai, turkana belong in the mediterranean race.

“Justice for all”

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#40 Sep 4, 2012
@Horus you're crazy,.This is what happens whenever you skip your medication.
There is no mediterranean race.
Truth

Nairobi, Kenya

#41 Jan 15, 2013
crazy thread!
Salat ole Haile

UK

#42 Jan 26, 2013
Maasai actualy are the old Hebrew even dna proved so, looking like somalia is not a bad thing either as Maasai are half% Cushite, but we prefer to be Maasai period, we are only in Africa but we are neither African neither European but Maasai the Superior race.
Salat ole Haile Shamron

UK

#43 Jan 26, 2013
In all of Africa only the Maasai carry this Dna E1b1b1(M35) 50% of Maasai belong to it hence Jewish-The lost tribe

Since: Jan 13

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#44 Jan 26, 2013
DiTruth wrote:
Your features (straight nose/soft hair) are native to Africa.
Smh...ignorance.
So why don't you have you it filthy afrocentric lier. Stop claiming us.
Salat ole Haile Shamron

UK

#46 Feb 6, 2013
We do not look like the stupid, uneducated, fail state, the Arab like Somalia, We are Jews Dna Y E1b1b1(M35) clearly speak by itself.If I was born Somalia I would Have Killed myself.Blessed be Adonai God of Israel God of Maa people.
Salat ole Haile Shamron

UK

#47 Feb 6, 2013
Egyptology wrote:
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So why don't you have you it filthy afrocentric lier. Stop claiming us.
You ignorance Arab are you talking to me? Remember that ur dealing with a Superior race, do you remember the six day war 1967?
horn african

Nairobi, Kenya

#48 Mar 7, 2013
SeektheTruth wrote:
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don't insult us. If Some Kenyans look a little Somali, its b/c Kenya is former colony of Somalia, they some of our have our beautiful dna. Nilotic people do not come from Somalia. lmao. Most Kenyans are bantu, and they look and behave like bantus.
you're right.Kenyans are just bantus.I am ethiopian but I can apart somalis from massai and Kikuyu. somalis are completely different from all Kenyans.
jimmy

Blackburn, UK

#49 Mar 7, 2013
Kaffir wrote:
I'm loathe to have to contradict you on one point. George Saitoti is actually 100% Kikuyu. He took up a maasai name to access a scholarhip in the 1950s. By the way, Prof. George Saitoti is one of only 7 people on earth who can solve the 'Poincare Conjecture'- A notorious mathematical problem.
I am not surprised that Maasais look like Somalis simply because I know that we all have a common ancestor who lived 40,000 years ago. Which in geological terms is like the blink of an eye. This ancestor is the so-called Chromosomal Adam or the Mitochondrial Eve.
I would be more suprised if Somalis looked unique because it would mean they are a different species.
While Somalis are Cushites, Maasais Nilotes and the Banyankole (Museveni's tribe) are Bantu, you have to understand that the these are academic classifications not genetic dichotomies.
Nilote means people of the Nile
Cushite means people from Cush/Kush or Black people
Bantu means people who speak languages in which the word for 'person' has the 'ntu' root.(Swahili= Mtu, Kikuyu = Mundu, Kisii = Muntu, Zulu = Buntu, Tswana = Batho etc)
We are all one. Homo sapiens.
dumb somali:the poincare conjecture was solved long time ago!Go back claiming welfare ,you IQ is too low for academics!
Proudsomali

Mississauga, Canada

#50 Oct 12, 2014
NANI wrote:
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You fool when was kenya colonised by a failed state?
Read your history instead of making it up!!
You stupid that the white people watch like toys dancing in the park when they come for tourism in kenya and who is at the bottom of all the tribes in kenya and still living in reserves like the north american natives is not worth the shoes of the somali people. Hundred years, I used to hunt you and transport you in boat like animals and sell you like cargo as slave to the arabs. The somali nation will be back. Even the somalis in kenya are better than you by any standard. If you one to be respected then respect others before you open your dirty mouth that is missing teeth as you stupid culture. Your place in the world is to dance for the tourist.
Proudsomali

Mississauga, Canada

#51 Oct 12, 2014
jimmy wrote:
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dumb somali:the poincare conjecture was solved long time ago!Go back claiming welfare ,you IQ is too low for academics!
You are either scumbag trash white racist or wanabe white trash black. Who ever you are, you are not worth the shoes that the cheapest Somali wears. Somalis own 624, 000 square miles of land, 3000 long coastal line, and land that is full of unexploited minerals and oil, livestock, arable land and they will be back in the corner and you will be coming to them when the little island of UK which has no resources is exhausted. If you are British, the days you used to run the world are gone and you shrunk back to the little island that you belong to. If you are black guy living in UK. you are useless as you are refugee just as the Somalis who are there. So don't behave like if England belong to you. The welfare that UK gives is not yet worth of the billions of dollars that you stole from Africa for a century of colonization. It is your payback asshole. Shut up. Respect others if you want respect.
Proudsomali

Mississauga, Canada

#52 Oct 12, 2014
Salat ole Haile Shamron wrote:
We do not look like the stupid, uneducated, fail state, the Arab like Somalia, We are Jews Dna Y E1b1b1(M35) clearly speak by itself.If I was born Somalia I would Have Killed myself.Blessed be Adonai God of Israel God of Maa people.
Look at the Amhara boy here. You are crying to be a jew. You are ruled today by the Tigray. your days are done in Ethiopia. The worst people that I want sit with or touch their dirty body is amhara or similar tribes from Ethipoia. To a Somali an Amhara are dirty just like the untouchables in India.They are the bottom of the cast in East Africa. Since when an Ethiopia whether Amhara or Tigray would look on Somali. Soon the time will change and the Somalis will reconcile and bring back the great nation of Somalia. It is healing slowly and when we get up we will be agianlike the elephants in East Africa that we used to be. In the meantime scumbag you can talk with your dirty mouth and eat you uncooked meat that is full of worms and dirty.

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