Who to invite to Topix Serbia summer barbeque ?

Created by BBQ on Feb 27, 2013

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Dalmatino

Strahd

ISP Malta

Shomi

ISP Ljubljana

TheBaron

TheRealMagyar

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Strahd

Australia

#168 Mar 11, 2013
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
Hey I want to come your barbeque party , I'm so hungry :P
Welcome back B Girl Turco. Sure, your invited. Bring some assorted kebabs for me to throw onto my charcoal barbie and we will make sure to take care of that hunger of yours.
Strahd

Australia

#169 Mar 11, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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I am sure Strahd will bring you as his +1 hehe
Its all above board TRM.

What's your contribution to the barbecue ? The goulash is stereotyping, but as I understand it you guys have a smorgasbord of savouries and sweets.
Strahd

Australia

#170 Mar 11, 2013
SOKOL OvO wrote:
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A little off topic here on my behalf but just wandering what your thoughts are considering you may have some Croatian ancestry? You did say one of your grandparents came from Montenegro yes?
""..It is noteworthy that some other Slavic people have been distinguished by colour. There have been, for example, White, Red and Black Croats.(White Croats and White Croatia lived in today's south-east Poland and western Ukraine, beyond the Carpathians; Red Croats and Red Croatia were situated in today's Croatia, present-day Montenegro, Bosnia, Herzegovina, southern Dalmatia and most of Albania, as well as "Old Serbia" (Raška and Metohija). Black Croats resided beyond the River Don...""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Russia
Hicrî 835 Tarihli Suret-i Defter-i Sancak-i Arvanid, and the English translation is: The Copy of the Register of the Albanian Province Dated 835 (1431 A.D.). It deals with the sanjak (province) of Albania. There were two original copies. One was kept in Adrianople and is now lost. The other one was maintained by the Governor General of the Balkans and is now in the Basbakanlik Archives in Constantinople.
Discovered in the book two Croatian villages. One Asagi Hirvate, or Lower Hirvate, consisted of 27 households, paid 2035 aksa yearly, and was part of timar.[5] The village was also mentioned under the name Hirvat[6]. The other village was Hirvatova and the timar 256 had a part of it. It consisted of 17 households and paid 1422 aksa[7]. Since the Lower Hirvate was mentioned, an Upper Hirvate must have existed too. Whether this was Hirvatova or not cannot be ascertained from the register. Asagi Hirvate and Hirvatova were both in Muzakije, between the Rivers Sémeni (Seman) and Shkumbini (Shkumbi).
If Croatian tribes lived all the way down south in Albania imagine how many more lived in Montenegro
http://www.studiacroatica.org/jcs/01/0104.htm
Investigation into the history of old Montenegrin family names Hrvat=Croat
""The dominant ethnic surname among Montenegrins was almost exclusively referring to Croat ancestry (Hrvat, Harvat, Hrvat, Hrvo, Hrvacic, etc. In Sokolovic area near Rudo in Eastern Bosnia lived even in 1932. 10 muslim families with surname Hrvat whose ancestors had emigrated from Montenegro""
http://www.indopedia.org/index.php...
Although a video is not an Encyclopedia this video corresponds with the above. You may find it interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rPb2yslbcpQXX
You see Strahd you could be related to us Croats kuz
Sokol, promise once I finish with the 'mystery illness' thread to get back to this as the very next topic. Have backlogged it and will reread this post. Time is a commodity and been reading something on illnesses in other places, similar set of circumstances in some cases and will present this on the other thread.

BTW
It was actually my great grandmother on mothers side that was a Montenegrin. I know your going to have a field day with this, but you will have to wait before trying to 'Croatise' me lol.

Hopping off now.
Kurvatica

Australia

#171 Mar 11, 2013
No burkas allowed though. I think its unfair to not know what is behind the burka. I mean it could be anyone!
Kurvatica

Australia

#172 Mar 11, 2013
SOKOL OvO wrote:
<quoted text>
A little off topic here on my behalf but just wandering what your thoughts are considering you may have some Croatian ancestry? You did say one of your grandparents came from Montenegro yes?
""..It is noteworthy that some other Slavic people have been distinguished by colour. There have been, for example, White, Red and Black Croats.(White Croats and White Croatia lived in today's south-east Poland and western Ukraine, beyond the Carpathians; Red Croats and Red Croatia were situated in today's Croatia, present-day Montenegro, Bosnia, Herzegovina, southern Dalmatia and most of Albania, as well as "Old Serbia" (Raška and Metohija). Black Croats resided beyond the River Don...""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Russia
Hicrî 835 Tarihli Suret-i Defter-i Sancak-i Arvanid, and the English translation is: The Copy of the Register of the Albanian Province Dated 835 (1431 A.D.). It deals with the sanjak (province) of Albania. There were two original copies. One was kept in Adrianople and is now lost. The other one was maintained by the Governor General of the Balkans and is now in the Basbakanlik Archives in Constantinople.
Discovered in the book two Croatian villages. One Asagi Hirvate, or Lower Hirvate, consisted of 27 households, paid 2035 aksa yearly, and was part of timar.[5] The village was also mentioned under the name Hirvat[6]. The other village was Hirvatova and the timar 256 had a part of it. It consisted of 17 households and paid 1422 aksa[7]. Since the Lower Hirvate was mentioned, an Upper Hirvate must have existed too. Whether this was Hirvatova or not cannot be ascertained from the register. Asagi Hirvate and Hirvatova were both in Muzakije, between the Rivers Sémeni (Seman) and Shkumbini (Shkumbi).
If Croatian tribes lived all the way down south in Albania imagine how many more lived in Montenegro
http://www.studiacroatica.org/jcs/01/0104.htm
Investigation into the history of old Montenegrin family names Hrvat=Croat
""The dominant ethnic surname among Montenegrins was almost exclusively referring to Croat ancestry (Hrvat, Harvat, Hrvat, Hrvo, Hrvacic, etc. In Sokolovic area near Rudo in Eastern Bosnia lived even in 1932. 10 muslim families with surname Hrvat whose ancestors had emigrated from Montenegro""
http://www.indopedia.org/index.php...
Although a video is not an Encyclopedia this video corresponds with the above. You may find it interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rPb2yslbcpQXX
You see Strahd you could be related to us Croats kuz
dalmatia originaly had serbs living in south and croats north of the river. Whos to say some of todays dalmatians are not serbs. Same goes for croats in krajina, croats from montenegro, croats from serbian settled parts of bosnia. Do you actualy belive your own post or is this some anti serb petty attempt?
Kurvatica

Australia

#173 Mar 11, 2013
Lets say that your name ends with "ic"....that makes you serb right?

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#174 Mar 12, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
Sokol, promise once I finish with the 'mystery illness' thread to get back to this as the very next topic. Have backlogged it and will reread this post. Time is a commodity and been reading something on illnesses in other places, similar set of circumstances in some cases and will present this on the other thread.
BTW
It was actually my great grandmother on mothers side that was a Montenegrin. I know your going to have a field day with this, but you will have to wait before trying to 'Croatise' me lol.
Hopping off now.
Understandable, there is a lot of traffic on the forum at the moment. I still have tonne of messages to get through.

Thats what work does to ya

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#175 Mar 12, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
<quoted text> dalmatia originaly had serbs living in south and croats north of the river. Whos to say some of todays dalmatians are not serbs. Same goes for croats in krajina, croats from montenegro, croats from serbian settled parts of bosnia. Do you actualy belive your own post or is this some anti serb petty attempt?
Actually there is no archaeological evidence not even carvings or inscriptions by the inhabitants of Dalmatia=Croatia referring to themselves as Serbs.

There are lots of archaeological artifacts from all over Dalmatia from the Croats and also by past inhabitants Illyrians Romans and Celts but nothing of the Serbs.

The oldest Croatian capital was in Bosnia in Duvno Tomislav Grad recorded in 753AD

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#176 Mar 12, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
Lets say that your name ends with "ic"....that makes you serb right?
How so? all Slavic people have the "ic" more or less in their surnames.

Old Croatian nobles and Kings had the "ic" in their surnames.

.Trpimirovic
.Subic
.Hrvatinic

etc..........

It is a waste of time trying to grab Slavic names and have ownership over them.

The only names that can be clearly know as Croat and Serb are obvious ones like "Srbin" or "Hrvatin"

Did you know Montenegrins and Serbs have by far more of the surname Hrvat- than Srb- in their surnames?

It just shows that Montenegrins and Serbs from Vojvodina and Croatian krajina have Croatian ancestry.
Kurvatica

Adelaide, Australia

#177 Mar 12, 2013
Go to wiki History of Dalmatia, in the middle ages section it mentions first slavic settlements in dalmatia,it says croats to the north and serbs to the south, seperated by the Cetina river.
Kurvatica

Adelaide, Australia

#178 Mar 12, 2013
My friends grandad who is bulgarian from serbia told us years ago that the long names ending with ic were serbian and the short ic names were converted croat names. Of course this is bull crap but there is some connection to this. Maybe is was a popularity of slavic names at the time that people were willingly changing their names to be cool.
Kurvatica

Adelaide, Australia

#179 Mar 12, 2013
Like Cassius Clay to Mohhamed Ali
Kurvatica

Adelaide, Australia

#180 Mar 12, 2013
Or Cat Stevens to Usuf Islam

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#181 Mar 12, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
Go to wiki History of Dalmatia, in the middle ages section it mentions first slavic settlements in dalmatia,it says croats to the north and serbs to the south, seperated by the Cetina river.
There is no evidence to this claim and only 1 or 2 blury texts that are filled with errors.

Old Dalmatia actually went all the way south to Albania and east all the way to Raska Serbia. So it could be reversed and said Croatia went all the way to Serbia.

The fact remains no Serb artifacts have been found in any part of Dalmatia infact none in Bosnia either.

There are four texts that state that the area of todays Montenegro was Red Croat and other texts that say the inhabitants of this area were Croats. Remember this is not just south of Cetina but further.
By the 1100s the inhabitants of Montenegro had the Serb Church imposed on them
Kurvatica

Adelaide, Australia

#182 Mar 12, 2013
What facts?. You are all talk

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#183 Mar 12, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
My friends grandad who is bulgarian from serbia told us years ago that the long names ending with ic were serbian and the short ic names were converted croat names. Of course this is bull crap but there is some connection to this. Maybe is was a popularity of slavic names at the time that people were willingly changing their names to be cool.
Old Croatian clans nobles had long names ending with "ic"

Tugomiric
Mogorovic
Lacnicic
Jamometic
Trpimirovic
Svetoslavic
Horvatovic
Domagojevic
Hrvatinic

Croats always had these long "ic" names

Serb nobles etc had non "ic" names
Altoman, Milutin, etc

Also a number of Serb with status had the surname Horvat - Serb politician M Horvat, Serb general Jovan Horvat, Serb fashion desighner S Horvat etc
Banovic

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#184 Mar 12, 2013
SOKOL OvO wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no evidence to this claim and only 1 or 2 blury texts that are filled with errors.
Old Dalmatia actually went all the way south to Albania and east all the way to Raska Serbia. So it could be reversed and said Croatia went all the way to Serbia.
The fact remains no Serb artifacts have been found in any part of Dalmatia infact none in Bosnia either.
There are four texts that state that the area of todays Montenegro was Red Croat and other texts that say the inhabitants of this area were Croats. Remember this is not just south of Cetina but further.
By the 1100s the inhabitants of Montenegro had the Serb Church imposed on them
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

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#185 Mar 12, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
What facts?. You are all talk
Well its simple, there are stone carvings and old texts from Dalmatia where the native rulers refer to themselves as Croat and not one single text or inscription refers to themselves as Serbs.

Croatian history in Montenegro and Bosnia should be acknowledged

Tomorrow I will post all the relevent links as I got to go now
Banovic

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#186 Mar 12, 2013
SOKOL OvO wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no evidence to this claim and only 1 or 2 blury texts that are filled with errors.
Old Dalmatia actually went all the way south to Albania and east all the way to Raska Serbia. So it could be reversed and said Croatia went all the way to Serbia.
The fact remains no Serb artifacts have been found in any part of Dalmatia infact none in Bosnia either.
There are four texts that state that the area of todays Montenegro was Red Croat and other texts that say the inhabitants of this area were Croats. Remember this is not just south of Cetina but further.
By the 1100s the inhabitants of Montenegro had the Serb Church imposed on them
Roman Catholic Church imposed Catholic faith on non Croat inhabitants of Croatia - today their ancestors are biggest Croats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_hist...

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#187 Mar 12, 2013
Banovic wrote:
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htp:/upload.wikimediaorg/wikip edia/commons/c/c3/Migration_of _Serbs.png
Wile the rest of us post valid links you respond by posting chetnik propaganda maps.

Silly juvenille.

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