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Since: Mar 07

Prishtina, Kosovo

#1 Mar 26, 2013
Serbs Created an Alliance with the Ottoman Empire by giving the Serbian Princess Despina to Sultan Bayazid for a wife. After this royal marriage, Sultan of course gave a Vassal Independence to Serbia and making an agreement for invading Kosovo with well known Serbian Strategy of massacres and deportion of of Native Albanian population to Turkey.

In 1912, Serbian Army created another Bloodshed.

This is an Article from the New York Times archive 31 December 1912

SERVIAN ARMY LEFT A TRAIL OF BLOOD; Thousands of Albanian Men, Women, and Children Massacred in March to Sea, Say Hungarian Reports.
EXECUTIONS A DAILY SPORT

Special Cable to The New York Times.
LONDON, Tuesday, Dec. 31.— A Budapest dispatch to The Daily Telegraph gives details of atrocities in Albania and elsewhere, as contained in reports gathered for the Austro-Hungarian authorities. The correspondent says:
"On the march through Albania to the sea the Servians did not only treacherously murder and execute armed Albanians, but their beast-like cruelty did not stop at falling upon unarmed and defenseless persons, old men and women, children and infants at the breast.
"The Servian officers, intoxicated by their victory, declared that the most effectual pacification of Albania would be the total extermination of the Mohammedan Albanians. This mot d'ordre was quickly adopted by the Servian Army of occupation and put into practice.
"Between Kumanova and Uskub some 3,000 persons were done to death. Near Pristina 5,000, exclusively Arnauts, fell beneath the hands of the Serbs, not in honorable fight, but by unjustifiable murder.
"To carry out these crimes the maddened soldiers even invented new methods of cruelty to satisfy their lust for blood. In many villages all the houses were set afire, and as the unfortunate inhabitants fled before the flames they were shot down like rats. Men were shot in the sight of their wives and children, and afterward the helpless women were forced to watch their children literally carved to pieces with bayonets.
"Executions were the daily diversion of the Servian soldiers. In every house in which arms were found all the inhabitants were killed, being shot or hanged. On single days as many as thirty-six executions took place.
"The former Secretary of Premier Pasitch, Herr Tomiatch, says that during a journey from Prisrend to Ipek he saw nothing, but villages burned to the ground. The wayside was lined with gallows, from which the bodies of Albanians hung. The road to Diakowitza was like a "gallows alley."
But the tale of the atrocities which were perpetrated in Albania was by no means exhausted. The deeds done in Prilep, Kossovo, Weschitsa, it is said, exceed everything which the Albanians had to suffer under Turkish rule.
An Albanian of note, who fled from Prisrend to Graz, in Styria, and who studied in Austria as a youth, relates the following story:
"Whoever denounced an Albanian to the Servians was sure the man would be shot.
"In Uskub/Skopje unarmed Albanians were simply shot down by the Servian officers in the street, and if only a hunting knife was found in a house the owner was shot, no mercy being shown."
At Verisovitch the Servian Commander invited the fugitives to return and lay down their arms. After they had done this 400 persons were cut down.
At Pana the Serbs killed their prisoners, while at Varos and Pristina the population was slaughtered.
The Servian officers themselves say they hunted out the Albanians, and one officer boasted that he shot down nine Albanians in one day.
In the fortress of Nish, where many prisoners were brought, tragic scenes occurred. A man was trampled to death there for insubordination. A doctor of the Red Cross says: "Wherever the Albanians were found they were slain without mercy. Women, children and old men were not spared. I saw villages in flames every day.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...
blundunt

Midlothian, IL

#2 Mar 26, 2013
Can you believe that the returning Israelites were told by GOD to totally eliminate the occupiers of the Land I have given you! How do you think they went about doing it?Newsflash-they just like the Serbs failed to totally eliminate their enemies and now to this day there is strife and struggle in the Middle east.They disobeyed GOD and were merciful or maybe the ways of the Gentiles were appealing to some of them so they pulled back from totally destroying those people.The Serbians were under a Muslim based oppresor from 4-500years and thought they were right(but war and killing especially non combatants like women and children and the elderly and babies does'nt sit right with me either no matter who says so)This is the penalty for Serbs, Bulgars, Albanians and Greeks that failed to stop the OttomanEmpire from conquering Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries.The Serbians and the Bulgarians should have united against this alien threat but did not.They were there at the beginning of the Anatolian Turkish invasion of Europe.

Since: Mar 07

Prishtina, Kosovo

#3 Mar 26, 2013
Serbs exterminated hundreds of thousands Albanians every 50 years at least.

It is one thing that is always mentioned in these wars =

1.Serbs executed the Albanians not in honorable fight, but by unjustifiable murder.

2.Serbian beast-like cruelty = Soldiers even invented new methods of cruelty to satisfy their lust for blood.

3.Men were shot in the sight of their wives and children, and afterward the helpless women were forced to watch their children literally carved to pieces with bayonets.
prishtina

Tuggerah, Australia

#4 Mar 26, 2013
albanian islamic monsters cutting off heads of Serb civilians and then posing in front of camera. albanians cutting Serbs piece by piece limb by limb and also their organs were taken out

www.kosovoliberationarmy.com

Since: Mar 07

Prishtina, Kosovo

#5 Mar 26, 2013
prishtina wrote:
albanian islamic monsters cutting off heads of Serb civilians and then posing in front of camera. albanians cutting Serbs piece by piece limb by limb and also their organs were taken out
www.kosovoliberationarmy.com
Illiterate Serb, I`m showing you the Articles of New York Times and you`re showing me the Serbian created web site that uses pictures of Albanian, Croatian and Bosnian victimes killed by Serbs.

You` should be ashamed of yourself, Serbs are Monsters, It has been proved every time something happened between the nations in the region.
hmmm

France

#6 Mar 26, 2013
prishtina wrote:
Serbs exterminated hundreds of thousands Albanians every 50 years at least.
For the beginning, if it is true how comes that Albanian population has been increasing every 50 years for hundreds of thousends, and Serbian decreasing for hundreds of thousends ? In Kosovo, of course.
Having said that I do not denay the facts that Serbs slaugthered Albanians but Albanians did the same to the Serbs. No slaugthering prior to the Ottomans.
reality

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#7 Mar 26, 2013
prishtina wrote:
Albanians Created an Alliance with the Ottoman Empire by giving the Albanian Princess Amina Gul Bahar to Sultan for a wife. After this royal marriage, Sultan of course gave a Vassal Independence to Albania and making an agreement for invading Kosovo with well known Albanian Strategy of massacres and deportion of of Native Serbs population to Central Serbia.
.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TINVC...

Since: Mar 07

Prishtina, Kosovo

#8 Mar 26, 2013
hmmm wrote:
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For the beginning, if it is true how comes that Albanian population has been increasing every 50 years for hundreds of thousends, and Serbian decreasing for hundreds of thousends ? In Kosovo, of course.
Having said that I do not denay the facts that Serbs slaugthered Albanians but Albanians did the same to the Serbs. No slaugthering prior to the Ottomans.
Get your facts straight, Albanian population has not been increasing every 50 years, today there`s around 10 million Albanians in the world and less then 5 million of them live in the region while other are spread in the world as a result of Serbian terror and deporting of NATIVE Albanian population from their own lands!

Serbs burned all my documents and photographs during the war in Kosovo, If I didn`t survive, It would be like I never existed before, so I am very well familiar with the Serbian methods of conquering what does not belong to them and I don`t need you to tell me how the things are.

reality

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#9 Mar 26, 2013
prishtina wrote:
Albanian Created an Alliance with the Ottoman Empire by giving the Serbian Princess Gulcemal to Sultan for a wife. After this royal marriage, Sultan of course gave a Vassal Independence to Albania and making an agreement for invading Kosovo with well known Albanian Strategy of massacres and deportion of of Native Serbs population to other parts of Serbia.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TINVC...
hmmm

France

#10 Mar 26, 2013
prishtina wrote:
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Get your facts straight, Albanian population has not been increasing every 50 years, today there`s around 10 million Albanians in the world and less then 5 million of them live in the region while other are spread in the world as a result of Serbian terror and deporting of NATIVE Albanian population from their own lands!
Serbs burned all my documents and photographs during the war in Kosovo, If I didn`t survive, It would be like I never existed before, so I am very well familiar with the Serbian methods of conquering what does not belong to them and I don`t need you to tell me how the things are.
census 1948. Kosovo census 1991 census 2011
Al 498,244 1,596,072 1,616,869
Sr 171,911 194,190 25,532

Numbers say that number of Albanians rose by more then 1 million in 50 years, what is really extraordinary for sucha a small area.

There is no more Serbs in Kosovo and all those spread around the world can go back and live in Kosovo if they wish (they don't)
Unfortunately you are not the only one whose documents and photographs were destroyed during the war. Some people lost much more then thAT. From our own painful experiences we should learn and try not to do the same things which were done to us to SOMEONE else if possible.
American Indians are native to the USA but who is native to the BAlkans is very discutable.
Do you know anything about Albanian methods of being rid of everyone and everything what is not Albanian?

Since: Mar 07

Prishtina, Kosovo

#11 Mar 26, 2013
hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
census 1948. Kosovo census 1991 census 2011
Al 498,244 1,596,072 1,616,869
Sr 171,911 194,190 25,532
Numbers say that number of Albanians rose by more then 1 million in 50 years, what is really extraordinary for sucha a small area.
There is no more Serbs in Kosovo and all those spread around the world can go back and live in Kosovo if they wish (they don't)
Unfortunately you are not the only one whose documents and photographs were destroyed during the war. Some people lost much more then thAT. From our own painful experiences we should learn and try not to do the same things which were done to us to SOMEONE else if possible.
American Indians are native to the USA but who is native to the BAlkans is very discutable.
Do you know anything about Albanian methods of being rid of everyone and everything what is not Albanian?
Are you telling me about the census made by Serbs?

We all know what Serbs think of Albanians, they showed it very clear, you got tons of evidence = news/videos/documentaries/ICJ. ..and google too, I don`t have time to give you lessons.
teddy

Genova, Italy

#12 Mar 26, 2013
Seven years after the epic battle of Kosovo in 1389, Serbian historiography which calls itself as "martyrdom of Christianity" The Serbs gave an effective support to the Ottomans at the Battle of Nicopolis against Christians commonly known with the name of the Crusaders
post 7

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#13 Mar 26, 2013
teddy wrote:
Seven years after the epic battle of Kosovo in 1389, Serbian historiography which calls itself as "martyrdom of Christianity" The Serbs gave an effective support to the Ottomans at the Battle of Nicopolis against Christians commonly known with the name of the Crusaders
post 7
post 9

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#14 Mar 26, 2013
teddy wrote:
Seven years after the epic battle of Kosovo in 1389, Serbian historiography which calls itself as "martyrdom of Christianity" The Serbs gave an effective support to the Ottomans at the Battle of Nicopolis against Christians commonly known with the name of the Crusaders
post 7 and post 9
Tosk Albanian

Turin, Italy

#15 Mar 26, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kosovo... (1448)
''..The Albanian army under Skanderbeg did not participate in this battle as he was prevented from linking with the Hunyadi's army by the Ottomans and their allies.[6][5] It is believed that he was delayed by &#272;ura&#273; Brankovi&#263;, then allied with Sultan Murad II, although Brankovic's exact role is disputed.[7][8][9] As a result Skanderbeg ravaged his domains as a punishment for the desertion of Christian cause.[6][10]''
Serbians are asians just as turks. they are slavised iranic people
Tosk Albanian

Turin, Italy

#16 Mar 26, 2013
blundunt wrote:
Can you believe that the returning Israelites were told by GOD to totally eliminate the occupiers of the Land I have given you! How do you think they went about doing it?Newsflash-they just like the Serbs failed to totally eliminate their enemies and now to this day there is strife and struggle in the Middle east.They disobeyed GOD and were merciful or maybe the ways of the Gentiles were appealing to some of them so they pulled back from totally destroying those people.The Serbians were under a Muslim based oppresor from 4-500years and thought they were right(but war and killing especially non combatants like women and children and the elderly and babies does'nt sit right with me either no matter who says so)This is the penalty for Serbs, Bulgars, Albanians and Greeks that failed to stop the OttomanEmpire from conquering Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries.The Serbians and the Bulgarians should have united against this alien threat but did not.They were there at the beginning of the Anatolian Turkish invasion of Europe.
you are too stupid to judge cases one by one so that you need to compare with movies, other episodes, ecc, or what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kosovo ...(1448)
''..The Albanian army under Skanderbeg did not participate in this battle as he was prevented from linking with the Hunyadi's army by the Ottomans and their allies.[6][5] It is believed that he was delayed by &#272;ura&#273; Brankovi&#263;, then allied with Sultan Murad II, although Brankovic's exact role is disputed.[7][8][9] As a result Skanderbeg ravaged his domains as a punishment for the desertion of Christian cause.[6][10]''
Serbians are asians just as turks. they are slavised iranic people
OH WAHT AN OTTOMAN OPPRESSION THAT YOU GOT! HAIL THOSE ALBANIANS WHO AFTER CONVERTING TO MUSLIMS REVENGED OVER THE OTTOMAN ALLIES AGAINST SKANDERBEG!
teddy

Genova, Italy

#17 Mar 26, 2013
Today Mark Krajlevic is a medieval hero of Serbia
He's often found in the Serbian epic songs
as a figure ready to affront the Ottomans, but he died putting his folk in the service of the Turks
Tosk Albanian

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#18 Mar 26, 2013
Tosk Albanian wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B attle_of_Kosovo_(1448)
''..The Albanian army under Skanderbeg did not participate in this battle as he was prevented from linking with the Hunyadi's army by the Ottomans and their allies.[6][5] It is believed that he was delayed by &#272;ura&#273; Brankovi&#263;, then allied with Sultan Murad II, although Brankovic's exact role is disputed.[7][8][9] As a result Skanderbeg ravaged his domains as a punishment for the desertion of Christian cause.[6][10]''
Serbians are asians just as turks. they are slavised iranic people
albanians are asians just as turks.albos are from mongolia

__________

Battle of Nis - shiptars on turkish side

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ni%C5%...
teddy

Genova, Italy

#19 Mar 26, 2013
Tosk Albanian wrote:
<quoted text>
albanians are asians just as turks.albos are from mongolia
__________
Battle of Nis - shiptars on turkish side
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ni%C5%...
we did not we deserted it
Tosk Albanian

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#20 Mar 26, 2013
teddy wrote:
<quoted text>
we did not we deserted it
albanians deserted after they see battle was lost but not before

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