Debunking Famous Albanian Myths
teddy

Genova, Italy

#796 May 2, 2013
Alexander the Great wrote:
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We finally agreed on smthn. That's a first timer. As for this caucasus issue. You know i wouldn't give a single sh1t. You think is matters to me, or makes some kind of difference to my life who your ancestos are? Hell, even if they really were Illyrians which I don't doubt that a part of your modern population might be, the Illyrians were still an infamous, wild, barbaric trible offering nothing to humanity. Nothing to be proud of. To solve your curiosity, the reason why i haven't stopped is because Albos keep calling Greeks any kind of ethnicity you can think of (just like you) with absolutely no proof (just like you), even though we have tons of proof to defy that.
The Illyrians were infamous wild! you are talking with the the burden of anti-Albanian,like your mate,half Serb and Aboriginal from Australia.Illyrians were not developed as the old Hellenes..but not so drastically "wild" as you mentioned them ....The Illyrian ancestory of Albanians ain't proved yet,but even the opposite...

Since: Mar 13

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#797 May 2, 2013
teddy wrote:
<quoted text>The Illyrians were infamous wild! you are talking with the the burden of anti-Albanian,like your mate,half Serb and Aboriginal from Australia.Illyrians were not developed as the old Hellenes..but not so drastically "wild" as you mentioned them ....The Illyrian ancestory of Albanians ain't proved yet,but even the opposite...
It wasn't so much the 'Illyrians' in a general sense, more the Dardanians Strabo mentioned as being wild and unruly primitives. This was one component that may be a contributing factor to explain the current state of the Albanian condition.
teddy

Genova, Italy

#798 May 2, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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It wasn't so much the 'Illyrians' in a general sense, more the Dardanians Strabo mentioned as being wild and unruly primitives. This was one component that may be a contributing factor to explain the current state of the Albanian condition.
If Dardanians had a statehood, how they could lived in wilderness!

Since: Mar 13

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#799 May 2, 2013
teddy wrote:
<quoted text>If Dardanians had a statehood, how they could lived in wilderness!
What statehood. We are talking about the ones in the Balkans. Strabo was a contemporary and I am only quoting him.

Fact is, the Greeks have a continuity with the Balkan ancients, but the Albanians are only mentioned in the 11th century. Yes, you are partly descended from original Balkanites, as are most in that region, but you have not left any legacy in the form of any recognisable medium.

Since: Mar 13

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#800 May 2, 2013
Dejzii94 wrote:
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RIGHT,thanks for your answer!
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If Albanians's rights continue to be respected on those parts of Serbia then I wouldn't support for another breaking cz thinking it logically it's ridiculous.Don't be bothered,I ain't a nationalistic maniac!
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Well,Kosovo is much more than the third of Albania so technically you took over the third of it!
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LOL so she is more European by her appearance than Rita Ora?!
r u kidding?
The fact that Rita Ora's friends are all Afro-Americans the fact that her style is Afro-American and she dresses and acts in that way doesn't make her by appearance African at all!
It remembers me the day when I thought that Jessica Alba is afro-american as a result of being aroung afros and having bunch of movies with them.
Just waiting for the day when from out of the blue you will claim that Albanians are chinese o.O!
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It is ridiculous for you cz by that you are claimed as later arrivals right?!Yeah fo shooo!
You can’t steal something that never belonged to Albanians. Where in the historical record that shows that Serbs ‘stole’ Kosovo. Historically, in every way, from place names to remnants from a bygone era, Kosovo is Serbian. There is certainly nothing to indicate Albanian habitation prior to the later Ottoman centuries. No records of conflicts between Serbs and other inhabitants that may have occupied Kosovo in another era.

I noticed that you side stepped the question I put to you again. Personally, I hate asking and wording it in different ways to try and tease the answer from you, but your obstinate refusal to give a clear cut answer indicates that you would support further Albanian expansion into Serb territory.

‘If Albanians's rights continue to be respected on those parts of Serbia then I wouldn't support for another breaking cz thinking it logically it's ridiculous’

Later on you can always claim that the rights of Albanians had not been ‘respected’. Respected my a55. Serbia has a multitude of ethnicities that have no problem working and living alongside Serbs in Kragujevac, Belgrade and any other place that you would care to mention. The fact is that you Albanians are incompatible with nearly everyone else. Since most Albo's practise a form of Islam that compounds the issue. If Kosovo had been in Croatia or Greece the results would have been the same. Only difference is that the Croats wouldn't have bothered to go to all the trouble to accommodate you and would have wiped you out a long time ago.

‘believe me in the next hundreds of years Albanians and Serbs will learn how to live together in Kosovo and who knows in the future Kosovo might have Serbian president too, I am being realistic’
No, that is unrealistic.

‘Territories just like beings are indicated from evolution and Kosovo is a part of territories's evolution! Once evolution hits you there is no turning back!’

Illegal expansion has nothing to do with evolution. You probably think Albanians have some profound destiny. I am sure that the once far reaching Third Reich fascists and the Communists called their movements ‘evolution’ and look at what happened to them. Thankfully, Serbs are not alone and there will be others including Greeks to contend with.

I don’t hate Chinese or Africans. I am not one those chauvinists that try’s to prove he is some big Euro descended freak by crapping on Africans or Asians. In fact, I admire much about worldwide cultures and in a less hostile forum can go about shared achievements and so on.

I have noticed how much Albanians hate Africans, Asians, Arabs and Turks. In fact, it seems that you liken Serbs to anything non European. With me, it is not hate of Arabs or Africans, and notice the positive things I said about the slightly Afro looking Albanian I mentioned. There is no hate, just observations.
teddy

Genova, Italy

#801 May 2, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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What statehood. We are talking about the ones in the Balkans. Strabo was a contemporary and I am only quoting him.
Fact is, the Greeks have a continuity with the Balkan ancients, but the Albanians are only mentioned in the 11th century. Yes, you are partly descended from original Balkanites, as are most in that region, but you have not left any legacy in the form of any recognisable medium.
I have got listened this " we were mentioned for the first time" according to you where the Albanians there were? and don't tell me that hilarious crap of Caucasian Albanians....before 11 cen we were evidenced by Bulgarians like language and people
as for the Greeks they lost the statehood in the remote times ...Invasion of slaves demaged them ...Greece in the Medieval times never had a shape of any power internal, was under Bulgarians,Albanians,Serbs,Ven etians,after came the Ottomans till the 1821
Strahd

Australia

#802 May 2, 2013
Dejzii94 wrote:
btw I thought you always said that Albanians and especially Albanian women are "ugly" but now you claim the opposite?!
Bu ha ha "Strahd" Albanian women are such a beautyyyy,just a blind one can claim the opposite! ;)
Many Albanians are an unattractive lot, but some of the best looking Albanian girls have enough Slav or other ethnicities in them, and like everything else you get the beauties.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#803 May 3, 2013
I want to thank another Serb that had originally provided the link on another thread for a different topic.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/kosovo-musl...

‘Hundreds of Kosovo Muslims took to the streets on
Friday to protest against a ban by authorities to wear a Muslim headscarf in school.’

‘Some 90 percent of Kosovo's 2 million people are ethnic Albanian Muslims.’

One of the placards reads ‘ I am a Kosovar Muslim since 1389’.

The only reason that girls from Kosovo have not been fully Islamified and made to wear these hijabs by their males is for the fact that they had the benefits of Serbian values under our lawful jurisdiction. Only in the recent years are some Albanians learning what the implications are without the Serbs to protect Albanian women from Islamic doctrine and Albanian males. Why do you think a few years back all those thousands of Albanian women sought to escape their males by marrying progressive Serbian men. Let’s face facts. Serbian women are not running to Albanian men, it is the Albanian women running to Slavic and other non Albo males.

Imagine where Kosovo is going now left to its own devices.

“Mr C and S”

Since: Feb 09

Bracaland

#804 May 3, 2013
Strahd wrote:
I want to thank another Serb that had originally provided the link on another thread for a different topic.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/kosovo-musl...
‘Hundreds of Kosovo Muslims took to the streets on
Friday to protest against a ban by authorities to wear a Muslim headscarf in school.’
‘Some 90 percent of Kosovo's 2 million people are ethnic Albanian Muslims.’
One of the placards reads ‘ I am a Kosovar Muslim since 1389’.
The only reason that girls from Kosovo have not been fully Islamified and made to wear these hijabs by their males is for the fact that they had the benefits of Serbian values under our lawful jurisdiction. Only in the recent years are some Albanians learning what the implications are without the Serbs to protect Albanian women from Islamic doctrine and Albanian males. Why do you think a few years back all those thousands of Albanian women sought to escape their males by marrying progressive Serbian men. Let’s face facts. Serbian women are not running to Albanian men, it is the Albanian women running to Slavic and other non Albo males.
Imagine where Kosovo is going now left to its own devices.
hahahahha, Strahdo...i can see your funny side now...esp in another thread when you bash albanians for not bein hospitable...i did write sth back and not sure if it made it as a comment as i did it on my phone.....but the truth is you will soon be hailed as :http://search.yahoo.com/searc h?fr=cb-max&serveUrl=s.max thon.com&ei=utf-8&p=co median

“Mr C and S”

Since: Feb 09

Bracaland

#805 May 3, 2013
teddy

Genova, Italy

#806 May 3, 2013
Strahd wrote:
I want to thank another Serb that had originally provided the link on another thread for a different topic.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/kosovo-musl...
‘Hundreds of Kosovo Muslims took to the streets on
Friday to protest against a ban by authorities to wear a Muslim headscarf in school.’
‘Some 90 percent of Kosovo's 2 million people are ethnic Albanian Muslims.’
One of the placards reads ‘ I am a Kosovar Muslim since 1389’.
The only reason that girls from Kosovo have not been fully Islamified and made to wear these hijabs by their males is for the fact that they had the benefits of Serbian values under our lawful jurisdiction. Only in the recent years are some Albanians learning what the implications are without the Serbs to protect Albanian women from Islamic doctrine and Albanian males. Why do you think a few years back all those thousands of Albanian women sought to escape their males by marrying progressive Serbian men. Let’s face facts. Serbian women are not running to Albanian men, it is the Albanian women running to Slavic and other non Albo males.
Imagine where Kosovo is going now left to its own devices.
What benefit of Serbian values ..if it were so dear and sweet it would be still standing your administration in Kosovo ... the fact is that it was not and never has been ... Serbs and Albanians were tied before one of your philosophers of the University of Belgrade branded 1902, saw the Albanians as a threat to the future of the new Serbia....in an atmosphere of hatred between the two ethnic groups have been few cases of weddings ... something like that just outside Kosovo .... the actions of military campaign of Serbia left very little to the feeling....
Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#807 May 3, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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Albo's are jealous that the Greeks amounted to something with there civilisation, architecture, myths, philosophy, maths, language and the fact that Greek learning and ancient history is known from one side of Europe to the other, the Greek contribution to both western and Byzantine.
What did Albo's achieve....nothing but crime.
Thank you for your kind words!
Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#808 May 3, 2013
ALBOZ4LIFE wrote:
<quoted text>aha and yes serbs are angles too. All the movies I seen about serbs were either about genocide war crimes or rape camps. Must be proud. And the difference between movies about us. And movies about u. Is for example. Taken. About the Albanian mafia which represent themselfs not the Albanian nation. Unlike movies about serbs Is usually serbian millitary or paramiliary forces (government sponsered and represent serbian nation) commiting war crimes up and down the balkans. Movies like Storm "2009" about serbian army commanders running rape camps in bosnia. Behind Enemy lines about serbian war crimes in bosnia. The Fourth Angle 2001 about serbian terrorists. Sniper 2 is about killing a serbian general who is commiting war crimes in bosnia. The Hunted about serbian war crimes in bosnia and Kosovo. The filthy war about croats defending croatia from serbian invasion. And many more others I cannot name right now. No room to talk bitcccch
According to IMDB:

Taken (2008): 7,9/10

Storm (2009): 6,8/10
Behind Enemy Lines (2001): 6,2/10
The Fourth Angle (2001): 5,5/10
Sniper 2 (2002): 4,9/10
The Hunted (2003): 5,9/10
"The Filthy War" not found!

As you can see, even the highest rated anti-Serbian movie (Strom), has a 1,1 difference in its rating (Very big amount in IMDB) from Taken a movie rightfully picturing Albanians as criminals, with taken having 298168 votes and Storm having a mere 894(!!!) votes meaning Taken is rightfully scored as a very good movie by a huge amount of voters whereas Storm because of its pretty bad average score because of the so little votes, could easily be overrated, as in IMDB 99,9% of the time, movies with relatively few votes such as Storm for example, are usually overated as much as 2 points, and that can easily be seen over time, as voting numbers rise in movies, the score drops.
Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#809 May 3, 2013
ALBOZ4LIFE wrote:
<quoted text>we don't have african arab features like ur greek friends down south. Don't be stupid here. Anyone with eyes can see that we are white europeans. U should be the last one to talk about religion? Whens the last time u been to church? Othodox my ass? I bet u haven't set foot in a church in the last month. We Albanians know who we are. The whole world knows who we are. But only the serbs don't know. Actually they do know but don't want to admit it bcuz it will crush all ur false theories about us. Everyone around us donesnt have a problem with our origins except u serbs? Now why is that? Serbs jealous they don't have acess to the adriatic ocean? Serbs jealous that no one wants to be under serbian occupation not even ur montengrin friends.
White Europeans? Hahah give me a break man! You are as Turkish as it gets- a person with eyes wouldn't tell which is which if you put a turk and an albo in front of them. Its funny how mongols like you should have inferiority complexes, to Greeks who have been proven to be 99,52% white (while EU percentages start from 97,6%) by researches carried out by top scientists, in top universities. Of course the world knows who you are. You are a bunch of muslim turkos in Europe, who make the best goat-f*ckers, Chicken stealers, illegal weapon, drug, human, organ-traffickers, and murderers.
teddy

Genova, Italy

#810 May 3, 2013
Alexander the Great wrote:
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White Europeans? Hahah give me a break man! You are as Turkish as it gets- a person with eyes wouldn't tell which is which if you put a turk and an albo in front of them. Its funny how mongols like you should have inferiority complexes, to Greeks who have been proven to be 99,52% white (while EU percentages start from 97,6%) by researches carried out by top scientists, in top universities. Of course the world knows who you are. You are a bunch of muslim turkos in Europe, who make the best goat-f*ckers, Chicken stealers, illegal weapon, drug, human, organ-traffickers, and murderers.
excuse the bad language, but you have with ancient Hellenes similar, only the @ss
Strahd

Australia

#811 May 3, 2013
blimey wrote:
<quoted text>hahahahha, Strahdo...i can see your funny side now...esp in another thread when you bash albanians for not bein hospitable...i did write sth back and not sure if it made it as a comment as i did it on my phone.....but the truth is you will soon be hailed as :http://search.yahoo.com/searc h?fr=cb-max&serveUrl=s.max thon.com&ei=utf-8&p=co median
Hey Blimey old chap, don't you know that bad publicity is still publicity. Spread the word about Strahd.
Strahd

Australia

#812 May 3, 2013
teddy wrote:
<quoted text>What benefit of Serbian values ..if it were so dear and sweet it would be still standing your administration in Kosovo ... the fact is that it was not and never has been ... Serbs and Albanians were tied before one of your philosophers of the University of Belgrade branded 1902, saw the Albanians as a threat to the future of the new Serbia....in an atmosphere of hatred between the two ethnic groups have been few cases of weddings ... something like that just outside Kosovo .... the actions of military campaign of Serbia left very little to the feeling....
Plenty of ethnic groups in Serbia, you have the Vlachs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians, Croats, also plenty of Euro and Asian nationalities from Italians to Chinese operating markets or business etc.

Last time I was over in Serbia we had lunch at a Vlach's place that hired my uncle to do some carpentry, nice people. Another relative knows some Hungarians in vojvodina....no probs.

Why is it that the Albo's only have a problem leaving amongst others ? I mean you also don't like Greeks. What's up with you lot.
Strahd

Australia

#813 May 3, 2013
Dejzii94 wrote:
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RIGHT,thanks for your answer!
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I will cut off the philosophical answers and give you the one that you sought for cz frankly I just wanted to tease you a bit by answering in that way,so:
If Albanians's rights continue to be respected on those parts of Serbia then I wouldn't support for another breaking cz thinking it logically it's ridiculous.Don't be bothered,I ain't a nationalistic maniac!
Please read Post 2 from one of your compatriots just made recently. Actually one of the Albo's on this thread acting high and mighty when we all know what the score really is here.

Here is one of the reasons why I am so damned right about Albanians.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TIODF...

Oh dear,

This is why you are trouble for the region.
teddy

Genova, Italy

#814 May 3, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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Plenty of ethnic groups in Serbia, you have the Vlachs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians, Croats, also plenty of Euro and Asian nationalities from Italians to Chinese operating markets or business etc.
Last time I was over in Serbia we had lunch at a Vlach's place that hired my uncle to do some carpentry, nice people. Another relative knows some Hungarians in vojvodina....no probs.
Why is it that the Albo's only have a problem leaving amongst others ? I mean you also don't like Greeks. What's up with you lot.
What you think that Albania was not plenty of other nationalities!Vlachs, Greeks, Bulgarians, and more
Ain't so much for the people ...is the policy of respective countries are in the anger of the old political disagreements led into the present day, especially the historical territorial rights
Your friend Alexander says Scanderbeg was Greek! which was the bond of Scanderbeg with the Greeks!? if ever, he had with Slavs...

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#815 May 3, 2013
I dont understand why this topic is still going on, Albanians simply got back their rightful Ilyrian land, and that is that. Some 200 year Serbian occupation doesn't mean much.

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