Croat Detainee Recalls 'Inhumane' Serb Prison

Feb 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: BalkanInsight.com

Croat prisoners were held in a packed cell in northern Serbia,old a witness the Hague trial of wartime Croatian Serb leader Goran Hadzic.

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Strahd

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Adult dialogue? Ustasa bla bla! Nazi waa waa! Subhuman scum bla bla! That's a large part of your supposedly adult dialogue. lol
They know that I feel the same sorrow for the lost life of a little Serbian girl, the Bosnian I met on my travels who lives his life today with only one leg and for the Croat who has never recovered from the brutal torture he endured and is on constant suicide watch by his family. They also know whose politics I hold responsible. Clear enough? Not every Serb denies responsibility like you do.
My husband grew up and left his shit disturbing days behind and generously has given his time, for a quite a while now, to help others. Again, your prejudicial misconceptions are your problem as are your racial and racist remarks.
These Croats and Bosnians Muslims should not have believed the fascist ideology taught to them by low IQ morons, should not have put it into their head like these other fcks here that a good Serb is a dead one and gone out of their way to brutalise our people. If they made the right decisions they would have come out alright.

Sure, innocent Croats and Muslims got caught up in the war and suffered, died, lost their homes, nature of wars, I never denied that.

However, why are the Serbs that suffered the most out of all the Balkan ethnic groups, their country occupied today by aliens, why is their suffering ignored, these days only to be further taunted by Albanian and Croat scum.

Maybe the Croat guy on suicide watch has only now realised the horrors he committed against Serb human beings, children, elderly, women that did him no harm. He might have been like one of these fcks formerly.

Maybe your family taught you prejudice against Serbs, reinforced by your marriage to someone involved in activities against the Serbs,'shit disturbing days'.

From what you are describing it seems that the Croat conscience is not clear. The Serb conscience on the other hand is free. We have nothing to be ashamed of, and the existence of a few Albanians and Croats in the larger whirlpool of humanity is nothing much to kick around.
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These Croats and Bosnians Muslims should not have believed the fascist ideology taught to them by low IQ morons, should not have put it into their head like these other fcks here that a good Serb is a dead one and gone out of their way to brutalise our people. If they made the right decisions they would have come out alright.
Sure, innocent Croats and Muslims got caught up in the war and suffered, died, lost their homes, nature of wars, I never denied that.
However, why are the Serbs that suffered the most out of all the Balkan ethnic groups, their country occupied today by aliens, why is their suffering ignored, these days only to be further taunted by Albanian and Croat scum.
Maybe the Croat guy on suicide watch has only now realised the horrors he committed against Serb human beings, children, elderly, women that did him no harm. He might have been like one of these fcks formerly.
Maybe your family taught you prejudice against Serbs, reinforced by your marriage to someone involved in activities against the Serbs,'shit disturbing days'.
From what you are describing it seems that the Croat conscience is not clear. The Serb conscience on the other hand is free. We have nothing to be ashamed of, and the existence of a few Albanians and Croats in the larger whirlpool of humanity is nothing much to kick around.
""The Serb conscience on the other hand is free""

Ever heard of the Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar? Arkans terror in Kosovo? Serb Gavrilo Prinicp starts WW1? etc.........

When you blatantly lie and ignore the truth you remind me of what Serbian Dobrica Cosic said about the Serb people

""A lie, trait of our patriotism" “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively.""

Dobrica Cosic political and Serb nationalist theorist and writer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobrica_%C4%86os...
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Strahd wrote:
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These Croats and Bosnians Muslims should not have believed the fascist ideology taught to them by low IQ morons, should not have put it into their head like these other fcks here that a good Serb is a dead one and gone out of their way to brutalise our people. If they made the right decisions they would have come out alright.
Sure, innocent Croats and Muslims got caught up in the war and suffered, died, lost their homes, nature of wars, I never denied that.
However, why are the Serbs that suffered the most out of all the Balkan ethnic groups, their country occupied today by aliens, why is their suffering ignored, these days only to be further taunted by Albanian and Croat scum.
Maybe the Croat guy on suicide watch has only now realised the horrors he committed against Serb human beings, children, elderly, women that did him no harm. He might have been like one of these fcks formerly.
Maybe your family taught you prejudice against Serbs, reinforced by your marriage to someone involved in activities against the Serbs,'shit disturbing days'.
From what you are describing it seems that the Croat conscience is not clear. The Serb conscience on the other hand is free. We have nothing to be ashamed of, and the existence of a few Albanians and Croats in the larger whirlpool of humanity is nothing much to kick around.
I see it this way, had Serbs not listened to the propaganda from Beograd that was pumped out by the Serbian media and chose, like a number of other Serbs (OMG can you imagine that), to live peacefully in an independent Croatia things would have been different.

Leave it up to you to blame the Croat for the reality he lives with today due to the torture he endured at the hands of your fellow Serbs.

Croats are not the ones demonstrating in the streets, their politicians are not making fools of themselves on twitter and jails are filled with other people convicted of war crimes.

Serbs did suffer, but far from most of all.
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""The Serb conscience on the other hand is free""
Ever heard of the Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar? Arkans terror in Kosovo? Serb Gavrilo Prinicp starts WW1? etc.........
When you blatantly lie and ignore the truth you remind me of what Serbian Dobrica Cosic said about the Serb people
""A lie, trait of our patriotism" “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively.""
Dobrica Cosic political and Serb nationalist theorist and writer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobrica_%C4%86os...
There aren't enough people like the group Zene u Crnom who have the courage to speak out honestly.
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WW1 was started by Austro Hungary,Croatia was part of Austro Hungary and Austro Hungary lost WW1

Did you heard for croatian war crimes in Lasva valley 1992 or croatian war crimes in Mostar
Did you hear croatian war crimes in World War, 1 World War 2

Adolf Hitler: Hrvati su izmet ljudskog roda
S0K0L wrote:
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""The Serb conscience on the other hand is free""
Ever heard of the Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar? Arkans terror in Kosovo? Serb Gavrilo Prinicp starts WW1? etc.........
When you blatantly lie and ignore the truth you remind me of what Serbian Dobrica Cosic said about the Serb people
""A lie, trait of our patriotism" “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively.""
Dobrica Cosic political and Serb nationalist theorist and writer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobrica_%C4%86os...
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Hi my Albanian brother, how are things in Albanian Kosovo these days?
Remember, you are always welcome in Croatia.
My father, who is 100% Croat Ustasa loves Albanian people and told me many things about your nation and history, also a long long time ago most of the balkans was Albanian.
Hope that all Albanian people prosper in Kosovo and in Albania proper.
I work with Albanians here in Australia, actually Croats, Bosnians and Albanians working together, top bunch of guys, we have a lot of fun but work hard and look after eachother.
Istria and Dalmatia is Italian
Baranja is Hungarian
Herceg Bosna is Bosnian
Zagorje is Slovenian and Hungarian
Slavonija is Serbian and Hungarian
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Istria and Dalmatia is Italian
Baranja is Hungarian
Herceg Bosna is Bosnian
Zagorje is Slovenian and Hungarian
Slavonija is Serbian and Hungarian
more servian stupidity. what else can you expect from dumb servians.
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S0K0L wrote:
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""The Serb conscience on the other hand is free""
Ever heard of the Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar? Arkans terror in Kosovo? Serb Gavrilo Prinicp starts WW1? etc.........
When you blatantly lie and ignore the truth you remind me of what Serbian Dobrica Cosic said about the Serb people
""A lie, trait of our patriotism" “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively.""
Dobrica Cosic political and Serb nationalist theorist and writer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobrica_%C4%86os...
'Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar'

You are churning out Fox news propaganda from those years gone by. Also, stupidly quoting some philosopher who was being humanist.

'Serb Gavrilo Prinicp starts WW1'

Only an idiot would believe that one civilian man would send all of Europe in the first major WW1 by an act of assassination of some fat pompous farting Austrian. In any case, the Serbs had arrested him, but the Austro Hungarians had been intent on war. You don't mobilise a whole country to engage in that sort of thing unless underlying factors had existed.

You ignore the economic and socio political circumstances of the previous decades.

I guess as a civilian I could just go out and kill a politician and start the next World War. Wow, what power.

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"Wow, what power."
use it wisely
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I see it this way, had Serbs not listened to the propaganda from Beograd that was pumped out by the Serbian media and chose, like a number of other Serbs (OMG can you imagine that), to live peacefully in an independent Croatia things would have been different.
Leave it up to you to blame the Croat for the reality he lives with today due to the torture he endured at the hands of your fellow Serbs.
Croats are not the ones demonstrating in the streets, their politicians are not making fools of themselves on twitter and jails are filled with other people convicted of war crimes.
Serbs did suffer, but far from most of all.
The majority of the Bosnian Muslim and Croats that suffered a form of reprisal from Serbs had been males of fighting age involved previously in the brutalisation of Serbs.

They thought it was fun to dehumanise innocents until the Serbs had caught up to them. I know, and I don't give a sht if you don't believe me, a Bosnian Serb living out in rural Victoria who lost a father and brother when the Muslims stormed his village and massacred them, and they had not even been involved with Muslim engagements. Sht like that is celebrated by Muslims and Croats.

I would ask you if a part of country was under Islamic occupation now sanctioned by the Jew led Nato, your people brutally forded en masse out of their homes, killed by criminals. Your Oluja is another example and I will demonstrate how currently on Croat Topix Croats make the 'proud connection' to Jasenovac.

I had a look at the forum the other day to see what most Croats thought and it was disappointing.
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'Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar'
You are churning out Fox news propaganda from those years gone by. Also, stupidly quoting some philosopher who was being humanist.
'Serb Gavrilo Prinicp starts WW1'
Only an idiot would believe that one civilian man would send all of Europe in the first major WW1 by an act of assassination of some fat pompous farting Austrian. In any case, the Serbs had arrested him, but the Austro Hungarians had been intent on war. You don't mobilise a whole country to engage in that sort of thing unless underlying factors had existed.
You ignore the economic and socio political circumstances of the previous decades.
I guess as a civilian I could just go out and kill a politician and start the next World War. Wow, what power.
only one idiot like you can deny what the serbian terrorist did in 1914. what else can you expect from pathologically and mentally sick servians

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Anyway, if you want to be accurate, Franz Ferdinand was not "some politician", but the heir to the Habsburg throne, of royal blood and one of the wealthiest and most powerful men of Austria.

And you know how things were in those days, imagine if you killed the son of an Italian Mafioso, you would go missing within days if not others. This was something similar, just on a national scale.

Also, like Strahd said, there were other factors.

Personally, I think the son of a b...ch Franz Ferdinand deserved it, as does any Habsburg. Also he was against Hungarians, and wanted to weaken our position, as well as make Hungary smaller.

From a Serb point of view, LOL you idiots.

Franz Ferdinand advocated these following things:

*Greater Autonomy and rights to the minorities of Austria-Hungary, including Serbs
* Federalization of Austria-Hungary
*Creation of Fedral area of Vojvodina (the ethnic Serbian parts)
*He hated Hungarians and especially Hungarian nationalism
* Address the grievances of the South Slavs
*Better relations with Serbia

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Yet you killed him, LOLOLOL

Franz Joseph I died in 1916. If you only waited two years, most of your issues would have been addressed.

Or at least he would have tried to , as what he proposed did not go down well with Hungary, and we would tear their empire apart.

We almost did in 1848, despite fighting a war on 3 (including Russian empire) fronts,and also against insurgents.
This time we were stronger, more numerous.
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There aren't enough people like the group Zene u Crnom who have the courage to speak out honestly.
babo u crnom ne smaraj i na topixu jbt
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The majority of the Bosnian Muslim and Croats that suffered a form of reprisal from Serbs had been males of fighting age involved previously in the brutalisation of Serbs.
They thought it was fun to dehumanise innocents until the Serbs had caught up to them. I know, and I don't give a sht if you don't believe me, a Bosnian Serb living out in rural Victoria who lost a father and brother when the Muslims stormed his village and massacred them, and they had not even been involved with Muslim engagements. Sht like that is celebrated by Muslims and Croats.
I would ask you if a part of country was under Islamic occupation now sanctioned by the Jew led Nato, your people brutally forded en masse out of their homes, killed by criminals. Your Oluja is another example and I will demonstrate how currently on Croat Topix Croats make the 'proud connection' to Jasenovac.
I had a look at the forum the other day to see what most Croats thought and it was disappointing.
It's quite noticeable how what took place in 1991 is always missing from your repertoire. I repeat again Serbs could have chosen to live peacefully, but they wanted what they wanted and weren't concerned about the well being of Croats. They were just nazi ustase after all, isn't that right? Men, women, young and old. How unimaginable that the mighty Serbs would not get what they wanted, and yet that's exactly how it turned out in the end. Go figure.

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Istria and Dalmatia is Italian
Baranja is Hungarian
Herceg Bosna is Bosnian
Zagorje is Slovenian and Hungarian
Slavonija is Serbian and Hungarian
Typical Cetnik, IQ of a monkey
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It's quite noticeable how what took place in 1991 is always missing from your repertoire. I repeat again Serbs could have chosen to live peacefully, but they wanted what they wanted and weren't concerned about the well being of Croats. They were just nazi ustase after all, isn't that right? Men, women, young and old. How unimaginable that the mighty Serbs would not get what they wanted, and yet that's exactly how it turned out in the end. Go figure.
Noticeable what took place during Oluja with the mass displacement of the Serbian population of Croatia is missing from your repertoire.

Use logic. Most Serbs want a chance to live peacefully with Croats. If that was not the case how do you explain the Croats of Vojvodina. No mass exodus of Croats to Croatia. Sure, some tensions flare up with isolated sht between idiots, but no mass persecutions going on.

Who knows, a shocking display of the occasional Croats, Serbs and Hungarians having a drink together might also occur to your displeasure.

Serbia seems to be the most democratic and tolerant of the nations of that central and west Balkan region. How can you judge Serb ideology Pocahontas when it is inclusive and peaceful ?

Now notice what happened in Croatia with the mass expulsions of Serbs. Kosovo region, Serbs forced out.

The problem with Serbs is that we are too tolerant, a curse and a blessing all in one. Just our natures.

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It's quite noticeable how what took place in 1991 is always missing from your repertoire. I repeat again Serbs could have chosen to live peacefully, but they wanted what they wanted and weren't concerned about the well being of Croats. They were just nazi ustase after all, isn't that right? Men, women, young and old. How unimaginable that the mighty Serbs would not get what they wanted, and yet that's exactly how it turned out in the end. Go figure.
I have Croat friends on Serb Topix.

In the last 24 hours one Croat even referred to me as a friend with out quotation marks. Can you say the same about a Serb in relation to you ?

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TMODU...

Read post 999 for the revelation of the Croat that admits to being a friend of Strahd.
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'Srebrenica massacre? War crimes of Vukovar'
You are churning out Fox news propaganda..........
So sad to see people like yourself brainwashed with such absurd Serb propaganda

did fox new digitally re-master this video with special effects?



Looks like Dobrica Cosic was right hey Strahd
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There aren't enough people like the group Zene u Crnom who have the courage to speak out honestly.
Dangerous thing to speak out honestly in Serbia, there were things I didnt like about Serb Tadic but at
least he made some effort to reform Serbia from its more right wing tendencies. Tadic would have needed a legion of body guards to protect him from his own people.

A lot of Serb political figures and heroes were assassinated by their own people, King Aleksander Obrenovic assassinated by his own army officers, prime minister Zoran Dindic assassinated by an ex secret service agent, Arkan assassinated by a police officer.

"to serve and protect" how ironic

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