Croat Detainee Recalls 'Inhumane' Serb Prison

Feb 8, 2013 Full story: BalkanInsight.com 316

Croat prisoners were held in a packed cell in northern Serbia,old a witness the Hague trial of wartime Croatian Serb leader Goran Hadzic.

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Mother Scandinavia

Mosjøen, Norway

#64 Feb 9, 2013
It seems Ante Palovic was worse than Hitler himeslf
Mother Scandinavia

Mosjøen, Norway

#65 Feb 9, 2013
I dont even today dont understand why Hitler sides to the Croats
Dalmatino

Australia

#66 Feb 9, 2013
Shomi,
Pure fantasy and typical demonising of Croats, a Christian people who do not have the capacity to commit such acts any more than Serbs do.
So many alleged 'documents' and 'correspondence' from Italian colonialists. Show at least one scanned copy of any of these documents. Idiots like you started the war in the 90's with this sort of fear mongering. You evil fck.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#67 Feb 9, 2013
Mother Scandinavia wrote:
I dont even today dont understand why Hitler sides to the Croats
1) To get support from Croats (soldiers, cannon fodder)
2) 1 less enemy to control
3) The ustashas could take care of partisans themselves rather than Germans having to waste time and resources and men

“Hello”

Since: Jul 09

Belgrade

#68 Feb 9, 2013
Mother Scandinavia wrote:
I dont even today dont understand why Hitler sides to the Croats
Because of 27 March 1941.
Mother Scandinavia

Mosjøen, Norway

#69 Feb 9, 2013
Ok thanks bouth to you Shomi and TheRealMagyar
Mother Scandinavia

Mosjøen, Norway

#70 Feb 9, 2013
Its saturday, so what do you ppl do?.

Its normally here to drink alittle, what about you?
Dalmatino

Australia

#71 Feb 9, 2013
Barrels filled with Serbian babies heads.

Serbian childrens intestines suspended from classroom ceilings.

Thousands of Serbian eyeballs.

by Shomi the anti-Christ and his Italian colonialist eye witnesses.

Myth: The Croatian wartime Chief-of-State Ante Pavelic routinely maintained a basket containing twenty kilos of human eyeballs at his desk side.

Reality: This statement is literally a work of fiction taken from the novel Kaputt by Curzio Malaparte (Kurt Suckert, also known as Gianni Strozzi). The book was written as fiction, sold as fiction, and is cataloged in every library in the world as fiction. To cite Kaputt as a source about World War II is analogous to citing Gone With the Wind as an authoritative history of the American Civil War.

That this tired tale is still being retold is the second most amazing part of this myth. More amazing is that anybody, no matter how blinding their hatred of Croatians, could believe it. And yet this myth was quoted as fact as recently as 1991 in official publications printed in Belgrade by the Ministry of Information of the Republic of Serbia and repeated by naive journalists in Britain and North America.

Kaputt

The myth survived and was given renewed life by the Serbian government, journalists and politicians because it came with quotation marks. The legend had a footnote, a citation, an author and all the trappings of fact. The author was often cited as "the most famous Italian writer," "the Italian journalist" and even the "famed Italian historian," Curzio Malaparte. His famous quote from the 1946 English translation of the novel Kaputt reads:

While he spoke, I gazed at a wicker basket on the Poglavnik's desk (Poglavnik was Ante Pavelic's title). The lid was raised and the basket seemed to be filled with mussels, or shelled oysters -- as they are occasionally displayed in the windows of Fortnum and Mason in Piccadilly in London.
Casertano looked at me and winked, "Would you like a nice oyster stew-!

"Are they Dalmatian oysters?" I asked the Poglavnik.

Ante Pavelic removed the lid from the basket and revealed the mussels, that slimy and jelly-like mass, and he said smiling, with that tired good-natured smile of his, "It is a present from my loyal ustashis. Forty pounds of human eyes.

Kaputt and its author both had fascinating stories to tell. In the original press release for the book, Malaparte claimed that the manuscript was started in the Ukraine in 1941 and smuggled throughout Europe in secret coat linings and in the soles of his shoes. Finally, the manuscript was divided into three parts and given to three diplomats, to be reunited in 1943 on Capri where it was finished.
The book chronicled Malaparte's movements around Europe in 1941 and 1942 when he visited every front and knew every head of state, usually on a first name basis. Malaparte apparently spoke every language and shared the charms of every beautiful princess on the continent. According to his own preface to Kaputt, his personal friendships with Mussolini, Hitler and others did not save him from being thrown into jail in July 1943 for being anti-German. Miraculously, he was soon freed and was working for the Allies by September of that year. It was while working as a propagandist for the Allies that Malaparte completed Kaputt, a book which he described as "...horribly gay and gruesome."

The critics agreed. Malaparte's two major books, Kaputt and Skin were labeled "Best selling Nausea" by Time magazine which christened Malaparte as "...a sort of Jean Paul Spillane." Malaparte's writings contained page after page of sordid tales about the evil world of Fascist Europe. Malaparte's basket of human eyeballs must be taken in context, as Time magazine wrote in 1952:
Dalmatino

Australia

#72 Feb 9, 2013
He shows mothers who sell their children into prostitution; but then, says Malaparte with a smirk, there are also the children who would gladly sell their mothers. He dwells for part of a chapter on a street peopled with twisted female dwarfs, who fed, he asserts gleefully, on the unnatural lust in the American ranks. Another chapter is concerned with a visit to a shop that sells blonde pubic wigs. U.S. soldiers, Malaparte explains, like blondes.

These offensive themes only scratch the surface of Malaparte's sick writings. That the Allies won the War through the devices of a "homosexual maquis," flags of human skin, and an Allied general who served his guests a boiled child are all included in Malaparte's fare.
Suckert-Malaparte-Strozzi

"Malaparte" himself was an enigma. He was born Kurt Erich Suckert in 1898 in Prato, Italy of Austrian, Russian and Italian descent. He attended the Collegio Cicognini and the University of Rome. He joined the Fascists at an early age and soon became the darling of the Fascist Propaganda Ministry where he wrote glowing volumes and even a work of poetry in praise of Mussolini. He served as a journalist for Corriere della Sera and traveled to Ethiopia in 1939. What happened after that depends upon which "Malaparte" is read. The world-traveling statesman fictionalized in his novels spent the war years in almost constant meetings with the likes of Mussolini, Count Ciano, Ante Pavelic and the rich and powerful of Europe. Interestingly, Pavelic's name was misspelled "Pavelich" (harder sounding ch instead of softer sounding ch) in all of his writings. Later, Malaparte claimed to have been one of "three Italian officers who organized the Italian Army of Liberation which fought for the Allies." After the fall of Mussolini he began writing under the name Gianni Strozzi for the Communist daily L'Unita. That year he applied for, but was refused, Communist Party membership. Still later, he went to work for the Allied Fifth Army Headquarters as a minor liaison officer. Just as he had served the Fascists and the Communists, Malaparte sought to ingratiate himself with his new masters. "The American Army is the kindest army in the world...I like Americans...and I proved it a hundred times during the war...their souls are pure, much purer than ours," Malaparte gushed. In November of 1952 a far different Malaparte wrote that in fact he had fallen out with Mussolini in 1934. Not only did he never meet most of the great leaders he wrote about, he admitted: "In 1938 I still remained under police control and was put in prison as a preventive measure every time a Nazi chief visited Rome...and from 1933 until the liberation, I was deprived of a passport..."

Once called "Fascism's Strongest Pen," Malaparte angered Hitler with a book written in 1931 about the techniques of the coup d' etat. He was jailed by Mussolini from 1933 to 1938 and kept on a very short leash for the remainder of the Fascist era. The Italian Defense Ministry did confirm that he once served as a liaison officer to the Allies, but flatly denied that he had anything to do with organizing Italy's Army of Liberation. A prolific author of short stories and fictionalized accounts of Fascist victories, Suckert-Malaparte-Strozzi did interview Ante Pavelic during the War. The interview recounted in Kaputt, in Pavelic's office, was recorded on film. There is no basket or any conversation regarding a basket to be seen.
Dalmatino

Australia

#73 Feb 9, 2013
After the War, Malaparte continued to write, as well as direct and produce movies, and was active in the Communist Party. In the Spring of 1957 the Party sent him on a comradely visit to China. Shortly after his return, he died on July 19, 1957. An enigma to the end, the viciously anti-Catholic Malaparte renounced Communism and converted to Catholicism on his death bed. Later, Malaparte's friend and fellow journalist Victor Alexandrov let it be known that Malaparte had admitted the story was fiction. Thus Curzio Malaparte and his unpleasant fiction have been relegated to the dust bin of literary history in all of the world except Belgrade.
gen Gotovina GoVNovina

Fremont, CA

#74 Feb 9, 2013
This is the UNITED STATES Holocaust Memorial Museum,

an institution of the UNITED STATES, NOT SERBIA, NOT Malaparte, NOT Italy.

United States, which has no vested interest to support Serbia (especially in light of bombing it in order to carve out of it its Province of Kosovo AND METOHIJA).

Yet, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum EXPLICITLY explains that the Croats were beastly in what they did to minorities: SERBS (85% of the victims), JEWS (6% of the victims), ROMANI (8% of the victims), as well as Croat (both Roman Catholic and Moslem Croat) "enemies of the state" (1% of the vitcims)

http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/ja...
Dalmatino

Australia

#75 Feb 9, 2013
Firstly, shove your Jew loving sponsored web site BS up your fkn Nazi collaborating chetnik a55. Even that Jew site states that 45.000 Serbs were killed there, only chetniks and no innocents, not the 750.000 or 1.500.00 as claimed as it was a labour camp to aid the war effort for the 70.000 strong Ustasa regime. 70.000 that were mostly deployed in combat roles from BiH to Stalingrad, unlike dirty chetnik svum draza who went village to village murdering Croats and Muslims and rescuing Allied, Nazi and Ustase pilot fr payments.
Secondly, most Croats served with the Partisans, the Partisan movement that was started in Croatia by Croatians, and per capita, manned by more Croats than any other ethnicity before 1944 when Tito granted an amnesty to fleeing chetnik cowards. Those partisans saved you chetnik sons of b1tches from the hands of the Ustasa
Strahd

Australia

#76 Feb 9, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
Firstly, shove your Jew loving sponsored web site BS up your fkn Nazi collaborating chetnik a55. Even that Jew site states that 45.000 Serbs were killed there, only chetniks and no innocents, not the 750.000 or 1.500.00 as claimed as it was a labour camp to aid the war effort for the 70.000 strong Ustasa regime. 70.000 that were mostly deployed in combat roles from BiH to Stalingrad, unlike dirty chetnik svum draza who went village to village murdering Croats and Muslims and rescuing Allied, Nazi and Ustase pilot fr payments.
Secondly, most Croats served with the Partisans, the Partisan movement that was started in Croatia by Croatians, and per capita, manned by more Croats than any other ethnicity before 1944 when Tito granted an amnesty to fleeing chetnik cowards. Those partisans saved you chetnik sons of b1tches from the hands of the Ustasa
Er, excuse me Mr Dalmatino, sorry to bother you and all that with your latest Serb hate rant, but just a quick reminder about that 'Orthodox Croat forum' thing...when you have the time of course. O.K. go back to whatever it was you were doing.
gen Gotovina GoVNovina

Fremont, CA

#77 Feb 9, 2013
Oh, you typical anti-Semitic pro-Hitler ustashi Croat SHlThead fromk the former penal colony of Australia,

that UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT site

does NOT say anything close to just 45.000 Serbs killed,

it says very clearly that more than 80,000 NAMES have been identified

and that the number of Serb civilian victims of your fellow anti-Semitic pro-Hitler ustashi Croat SHlThead slaughterers (including CHILDREN!!) is SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND.

Plus a significant number of Jews and Romanis and the handful of Roman-Catholic and Moslem Croat victims.
Dalmatino

Australia

#78 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
Er, excuse me Mr Dalmatino, sorry to bother you and all that with your latest Serb hate rant, but just a quick reminder about that 'Orthodox Croat forum' thing...when you have the time of course. O.K. go back to whatever it was you were doing.
Oh hello Strand, no hate whatsoever ol chap, just a quick historical clarification for some of your 'oh me, oh my, we serbs ...so much suffered...wah wah wah boo hoo', you know? the usual toothless wish to be the greatest victims even if it means knocking a few Jews out of the way.

Re Orthodox Croats, well since the ethnogenesis of Croats and Serbs had not taken place until the 18th and 19th centuries, effectively the hundreds of thousands of Croats who converted to orthodoxy due to the persecution and destruction of their Catholic church between the15th and 19th centiries throughout BiH and parts of Croatia would in todays terms equate to millions of "Serbs", effectively making this an Orthodox Croat domain.

We can disregard those Orthodox Croats that were forced to concert to Catholicism for a few short years between1941-45. My guess is that unless they were completely rtatded that most converted back to Orthodoxy after the war.

lol, so many baptisms.
Strahd

Australia

#79 Feb 9, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh hello Strand, no hate whatsoever ol chap, just a quick historical clarification for some of your 'oh me, oh my, we serbs ...so much suffered...wah wah wah boo hoo', you know? the usual toothless wish to be the greatest victims even if it means knocking a few Jews out of the way.
Re Orthodox Croats, well since the ethnogenesis of Croats and Serbs had not taken place until the 18th and 19th centuries, effectively the hundreds of thousands of Croats who converted to orthodoxy due to the persecution and destruction of their Catholic church between the15th and 19th centiries throughout BiH and parts of Croatia would in todays terms equate to millions of "Serbs", effectively making this an Orthodox Croat domain.
We can disregard those Orthodox Croats that were forced to concert to Catholicism for a few short years between1941-45. My guess is that unless they were completely rtatded that most converted back to Orthodoxy after the war.
lol, so many baptisms.
You did not include the Serbs of Serbia in that. I guess I can breath a sigh of relief now that I know I am not a Croat. Guess you will have to settle for the usual Turk, Vlach, and my personal favourite 'eastern Balkan nomads' for the rest of us.
Dalmatino

Australia

#80 Feb 9, 2013
gen Gotovina GoVNovina wrote:
Oh, you typical anti-Semitic pro-Hitler ustashi Croat SHlThead fromk the former penal colony of Australia,
that UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT site
does NOT say anything close to just 45.000 Serbs killed,
it says very clearly that more than 80,000 NAMES have been identified
and that the number of Serb civilian victims of your fellow anti-Semitic pro-Hitler ustashi Croat SHlThead slaughterers (including CHILDREN!!) is SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND.
Plus a significant number of Jews and Romanis and the handful of Roman-Catholic and Moslem Croat victims.
80.000 names consisting of Serbs, Croats (many who were still alive even after the war ended lol), Jews and Roma, but nevertheless 45.000 serbs who were undoubtedly chetniks and their collaborators such as those prisoners from the battle of Lijecve polje. I know you long for an Auschwitz for serbs but alas there are no children there, no bones, no mass graves, no evidence but instead inly invented names and numbers which contradict independent studies, even such as those of serb scholars in Bogoljub Kocovic proving that the numbers were fabricated for the purpose of war reparations. Sorry c0ck sucker, no holocaust for you.
truth

Perth, Australia

#81 Feb 9, 2013
Who force Croat as Orthodoxy as well Muslim if they have king queens as well noble..Did you claim crown from Croat land name and history..who they are who do that..curse upon curse evil upon evil..liars upon liars.
truth

Perth, Australia

#82 Feb 10, 2013
''Glagolic'' is not cirilic..cirilic is silliric.
posessor or deciver
Croat Crown land name history as well alphabet=glagolic.

curse upon curse

glagolic

gl..galatians
a=1 7=g
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

Croatian Glagolic become cirilic is that true.
twisted truth of God
http://bible.cc/galatians/1-7.htm
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

Since: Jan 13

Sydney, Australia

#83 Feb 10, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
Croats treated serbs worse, this is nonsense
Poor serbs got treated worse, yes this is all Croat lies, nothing is true, serbs did nothing wrong in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo.

All Croat fabrication and lies, no destruction and no murders, all fabricated by Croatian Hollywood department.

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