The return of Tito's train: From Serbia to Montenegro - a track to the past

Jul 13, 2013 Full story: The Independent 943

President Josip Broz Tito's Blue Train, scene of the dictator's famed parties with world leaders, is back in service as a tourist attraction Could there ever have been a more extravagant mobile assembly of the world's nastiest dictators? Here, plushly seated on the 28 red leather chairs around the long conference table in this sumptuous railway ... (more)

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Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#164 Jul 17, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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I can and I will. Whatever future Serbia has it will not be an EU one. Serbia is incompatible with the European Union. This will become more apparent in the next few years.
Dont be so sure , Serbia is well on its way to the EU
pocahontas

Etobicoke, Canada

#165 Jul 17, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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I can and I will. Whatever future Serbia has it will not be an EU one. Serbia is incompatible with the European Union. This will become more apparent in the next few years.
Back to actual reality. Are you going to celebrate the Croat entry into the EU in any way.
Famous last words... lol

A couple of Sundays back the Croat consulate here held a gathering in our local Cro park, a combination celebration for Dan Drzavnosti and entry into the EU. The place was packed, but somehow I think it was more for the first than the second. It just happens to be the place where my family and friends hangout on a gorgeous Sunday afternoon.
VojnikCro

Nottingham, UK

#166 Jul 17, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
Tito loved Titi & pccy the most and Jovanka was his fav
Jovanka was Fcking Ugly :D
pocahontas

Etobicoke, Canada

#167 Jul 17, 2013
Vladimir Nazor wrote:
<quoted text>I'll be nice & restrain myself from calling you a unpleasant name seka for what you just said about Predsjednik Tito
What irony that you're here, writing on this forum, at liberty to give your views as you staunchly defend a man who didn't extend that right to others. My short visit to topix has come to an end and even though I don't see eye to eye with you there's no hard feelings.:-)
Scandinavian

Mosjøen, Norway

#169 Jul 17, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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I am very well Scandinavian. I have been up north recently to Swan Hill with some friends and family. Nice towns here in Victoria so always good to get out of Melbourne when I can. Apart from that usual work, home, life. My hours at the government dept I have been working at have been cut due to staff demand and changes, but it’s all good. It has allowed me to plan and fly over shortly to Tasmania to catch up with some relatives in Hobart. Been awhile since I went down that way.
What about yourself ? Your getting some warmer weather now in good ol Norway ?
Hi my friend

I am good and have 4 weeks vication from now. The weater sucks right now, and yesterday we had only 8 degrees C. So it can only be better.

Just unpacked my new speakers Kef R500...and they sounds good, so i am a happy camper i quess
lulu

UK

#170 Jul 17, 2013
pocahontas wrote:
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Kaze se da jugonostalgija je nostalgija za svoju mladost.
Mislim da je Jugonostalgija nostalgija za nekom sigurnoscu i osecanjem da se mozes slobodno kretati, a da ne mislis hoce li te neko mlatnuti jer mu se ne svidja tvoje ime. Na neki nacin to jeste kao zal za mladoscu. Znas da je to sve proslost koja se ne moze povratiti, bez obzira da li zelis da se vrati ili ne. Ali sada vec niko ni ne misli o stvaranju nove YU. Kao sto rece gdja Petrovic zato i jeste nostalgija jer je proslost koja se nece vratiti. Verujem da je kod nekih ljudi postojala nostalgija i za Otomanskim carstvom i za Habsburskom monarhijom i za Kraljevinom Srbijom i za NDH pa ne vidim razloga zasto neki ljudi ne bi bili nostalgicni i za Jugoslavijom. Svako je nostalgican za onim za sto veruje da je bilo dobro i lepo, a u isto vreme je to mozda bilo ruzno drugim ljudima.

Since: Mar 13

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#171 Jul 17, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Dont be so sure , Serbia is well on its way to the EU
Without dates, commitments......
NIKOLA

Burwood, Australia

#172 Jul 17, 2013
pocahontas wrote:
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If it pleases you to use the term admiration, fine. It's disheartening to see such admiration for a man who possessed some very serious negatives.
Other than Suffering the "Misfortune" of being born croatian???

Since: Mar 13

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#173 Jul 17, 2013
pocahontas wrote:
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Famous last words... lol
A couple of Sundays back the Croat consulate here held a gathering in our local Cro park, a combination celebration for Dan Drzavnosti and entry into the EU. The place was packed, but somehow I think it was more for the first than the second. It just happens to be the place where my family and friends hangout on a gorgeous Sunday afternoon.
Save the lol for the real. Might as well argue about whether we will ever reach Mars or not.

A local 'Cro park' in Canada. We have parks aplenty here in Aus, but I never came across a Serb or Cro park. I guess it is a non event for many of the Diaspora Croats.
Vladimir Nazor

Adelaide, Australia

#174 Jul 17, 2013
VojnikCro wrote:
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Jovanka was Fcking Ugly :D
She was a beautiful woman , especially in her Youth.

She had beautiful Black hair, deep dark eyes, a beautiful smile that could light up a dark room & she had a beautiful complexion. Dont be so harsh Voj

From what i have heard of her when she spoke sounded like she was speaking the Croatian dialect & not Serbian.

She was born in Lika Croatia to Serbian parents & she could of decided to join the Cetniks but choose the Croatian branch of the Partizani.!

Maybe show a little more respect for Tito's for ever devoted widow

Since: Mar 13

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#175 Jul 17, 2013
Scandinavian wrote:
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Hi my friend
I am good and have 4 weeks vication from now. The weater sucks right now, and yesterday we had only 8 degrees C. So it can only be better.
Just unpacked my new speakers Kef R500...and they sounds good, so i am a happy camper i quess
Sounds almost like Tassie weather. Glad it's all a o.k. for ya.
Vladimir Nazor

Fitzroy North, Australia

#176 Jul 17, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa, now listen to me you Commie punk!
Never call Hungarians Tito's people ever again, understood!
Why not Madjar.! Your'e Madjari formed one of the Largest Minority groups in Tito's Yugoslavia !

If it wasn't for Tito you Madjari would of been just Voiceless Constituents of the Serbs.!

Tito provided the Vojvodinski Madjari their own Autonomy & a say in matters in Vojvodina's provincial capital of Novi Sad !

Every Vojvodinski Madjar i met had nothing but Praise & Genuine Respect for Tito.!

They called themselves Jugosloveni rather than Madjari thats how much respect they had for Tito's support of the Madjarski community of Yugoslavia

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#177 Jul 17, 2013
Vladimir Nazor wrote:
<quoted text>She was a beautiful woman , especially in her Youth.
She had beautiful Black hair, deep dark eyes, a beautiful smile that could light up a dark room & she had a beautiful complexion. Dont be so harsh Voj
From what i have heard of her when she spoke sounded like she was speaking the Croatian dialect & not Serbian.
She was born in Lika Croatia to Serbian parents & she could of decided to join the Cetniks but choose the Croatian branch of the Partizani.!
Maybe show a little more respect for Tito's for ever devoted widow

So not only do you worship Tito, but you also worship everything he stuck his kurac in.

"She had beautiful Black hair, deep dark eyes, a beautiful smile that could light up a dark room & she had a beautiful complexion. "
Sounds like you are in love with Tito's wife.

I bet your dream is to f..ck something that was also f..ked by Tito.
Vladimir Nazor

Fitzroy North, Australia

#178 Jul 17, 2013
Perhaps you too Madjar can learn a little & show the same respect for Tito as did youre Madjarski brothers of Vojvodina did.!

Try & look past Tito's Socialist politics !
Vladimir Nazor

Fitzroy North, Australia

#179 Jul 17, 2013
pocahontas wrote:
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If it pleases you to use the term admiration, fine. It's disheartening to see such admiration for a man who possessed some very serious negatives.
The many Positive Achievements & Accomplishment's Tito set out on the Domestic as well as the International scene out weighed any of his Circumstancial Negatives.!

Learn some history as in Main Stream World Concensus views instead of right wing mythological sob stories.!

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#180 Jul 17, 2013
Vladimir Nazor wrote:
Perhaps you too Madjar can learn a little & show the same respect for Tito as did youre Madjarski brothers of Vojvodina did.!
Try & look past Tito's Socialist politics !
You know nothing of Vojvodina. Leave Hungarians out of your Tito worship club!

Tito's Socialist politics? WHo the fck are you to talk to me about socialism?

I know very well what Socialism is , we lived through it, and we saw what it did, while you were surfing on some beach in Australia enjoying your capitalism!

Don't you f..king talk to me about Socialism you hear me you punk!!!
I f..king despise left wing liberal socialist retard scum!

If Socialism is so f....king good, why did your family flee to Australia?

Now, in the right context I can understand why you would like Tito. A lesser of the two evils so to speak. But that is where it ends.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#181 Jul 17, 2013
Vladimir Nazor wrote:
<quoted text>Why not Madjar.! Your'e Madjari formed one of the Largest Minority groups in Tito's Yugoslavia !
Yes, and you think I like this? WTF is wrong with you?
Vladimir Nazor wrote:
If it wasn't for Tito you Madjari would of been just Voiceless Constituents of the Serbs.!
Tito provided the Vojvodinski Madjari their own Autonomy & a say in matters in Vojvodina's provincial capital of Novi Sad !
Tito never gave Hungarians Autonomy. He gave the province of Vojvodina Autonomy. Which after the ethnic cleansings of WW2+post WW2 colonization, which you beloved partisans took part in, received a South Slavic (mainly Serb) majority.
Vladimir Nazor wrote:
Every Vojvodinski Madjar i met had nothing but Praise & Genuine Respect for Tito.!
They called themselves Jugosloveni rather than Madjari thats how much respect they had for Tito's support of the Madjarski community of Yugoslavia
:)))))))))

You are so full of sh...t it is simply unbelievable.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#182 Jul 17, 2013
I tried to be patient with you, so I will give you last warning.

Tone down your red bellied commie vomit.

I do not take kindly to communist.

If I had a gun with one bullet, and a Romanian Nazi or a Chetnik chauvinist on one side, and a Hungarian communist on the other, I would put the bullet into the Hungarian communist.

I making myself clear?

Since: Mar 13

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#183 Jul 17, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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You know nothing of Vojvodina. Leave Hungarians out of your Tito worship club!
Tito's Socialist politics? WHo the fck are you to talk to me about socialism?
I know very well what Socialism is , we lived through it, and we saw what it did, while you were surfing on some beach in Australia enjoying your capitalism!
Don't you f..king talk to me about Socialism you hear me you punk!!!
I f..king despise left wing liberal socialist retard scum!
If Socialism is so f....king good, why did your family flee to Australia?
Now, in the right context I can understand why you would like Tito. A lesser of the two evils so to speak. But that is where it ends.
Hey TRM, not to get involved in your debate with Vladimir, but I wonder if you realise that here in Australia we have one of the biggest welfare systems in the world. You can say that this one of the most socialist countries out with government payments for nearly everything, public housing etc. Of course the tax payer is shafted, but someone has to pay for the socialism.

Some of the other Australians on here get what I am talking about lol.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#184 Jul 17, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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Hey TRM, not to get involved in your debate with Vladimir, but I wonder if you realise that here in Australia we have one of the biggest welfare systems in the world. You can say that this one of the most socialist countries out with government payments for nearly everything, public housing etc. Of course the tax payer is shafted, but someone has to pay for the socialism.
Some of the other Australians on here get what I am talking about lol.
Someone has to pay for socialism, exactly. In Yugoslavias case it was paid for by loans + debt lol.

Sweden for example, also has a good degree of Socialism. Ask them how it's working out for them, I am sure the Arabs enjoy free Swedish housing heheh
However it is not for everyone.

Dont get me wrong, I do support some aspects of it. But as a whole I am against the idea of an "everything is free" welfare state.

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