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running sky

Montréal, Canada

#83 Oct 20, 2013
This would be by far the best theory on their origins. At least they should feel good knowing where they come from but what happened afterwards that took them away from their homeland? Same scenario happened with the gypsies of Europe. They too left their original homeland. Albanians and Roma have parallel situations.
Servoslave Gays

Buffalo, NY

#84 Oct 20, 2013
running sky wrote:
This would be by far the best theory on their origins. At least they should feel good knowing where they come from but what happened afterwards that took them away from their homeland? Same scenario happened with the gypsies of Europe. They too left their original homeland. Albanians and Roma have parallel situations.
another servian fiction and myth

“StrahdTubalCainS ervAnimal”

Since: Feb 09

StrahdAnd wifeCetnikDonkeys

#85 Oct 20, 2013
conclusion,

serbois do not have any proof..its all in their distorted imagination of reality.
what we have is their nomadic roots and meddling in balkans affairs since the 6th century.

Since: Mar 13

Australia

#86 Oct 20, 2013
blimey wrote:
<quoted text>please dont make yourself look more stupid...supposing they were shipped from sicilly, from Caucasus,lol and in thousands, or were there just two loads of cargo with 200 on board...and these Sicilians from Caucasus forced the Serbs out all along the stretch of the coast...when no such evidence is ever recorded in greek books who claim to have lived along Albanians, barbarians because they spoke another language...or to be accepted as a fact by historians, except u animal serbois majkushaggin beasts., who want to discredit albanian heritage to justify your false claim on albanian lands, kosova eg.
do one , pisshead!
You are the stupid one with your simplistic and childish racism, not to mention your roma trolling all over the forum.

No one forced anyone out in some 'epic battle' you siptar fool. They moved in like the Muslims of the U.K. or the Muslims that are swarming in Kosovo right at this movement and turning the place into another primitive sht hole.

History is punctuated by mass movements from the dawn of time. Albania was a mixed Slav, Vlach, Hellenic and Latin stretch before the arrival of the Caucus Albanians. You are the result of that mixing, a medieval construct, given the stamp of approval finally by the Ottomans that you owe so much to.

Ivan

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#87 Oct 20, 2013
blimey wrote:
conclusion,
serbois do not have any proof..its all in their distorted imagination of reality.
what we have is their nomadic roots and meddling in balkans affairs since the 6th century.
albanians are turkic tribe from caucasian albania and mongolia

Since: Mar 13

Australia

#88 Oct 20, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>No! Strahd Teddy does not fall ...
I have stated the Albanians were not present in Sicily in the 11th.
But after the end of the struggle of Scanderbeg in the 15th, we have clear evidence of Albanian emigration to Italy, exactly in the kingdom of Naples, read my previous thread
Today, the Albanian language is a real object of study to figure out its antiquity, its creation as and when it happens, it is an IE language but is not part with any branch. Many scholars have found that the Albanian language has helped in the creation of other languages &#8203;&#8203;...
The Albanian language is a case for study for the simple fact that it breaks from the European norm of what we classify as Indo European languages, hence it's similarity and composition to Chechen.

I have to agree with the other poster that it was in the provinces of Arabic Sicily that the Caucus part of your ancestry first lived before settlement in parts of what we call modern day Albania now. I have already shown the language distribution of Albanian in southern Italy.

Since: Mar 13

Australia

#89 Oct 20, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Serbs are Thracio-Illyrians! According to Sima Cirkovic, Serbs today are not even the descendants of Serbs who have migrated in the 7th ... their ethnic component is made mainly with indigenous Albanians and Vlachs
Let's all be honest about something here, plain and simple and skip the romanticist BS.

Modern Europeans for the most part are medieval constructs, formed from the associations and historical forces that played out from Dark ages onwards.

Europeans are really Slavs, Latins, Germans, Turks and Greeks.

Talking about dead Thracians, Illyrians, scordisci, continental Celts is mostly BS. These roaming tribes did not make us, culturally or linguistically in any real sense.

Albanians are simply northern Arabs, a part of those nations including the Chechens and Azari that skirted west and east of the Black Sea and also the Caspian at different times, coalescing in the middle ages.

Serbs are just Balkan Slavs. Serbs don't speak 'Illyrian', Celtic or Iranian to be anything else. That's it.

Since: Jul 13

Genova, Italy

#90 Oct 20, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
The Albanian language is a case for study for the simple fact that it breaks from the European norm of what we classify as Indo European languages, hence it's similarity and composition to Chechen.
I have to agree with the other poster that it was in the provinces of Arabic Sicily that the Caucus part of your ancestry first lived before settlement in parts of what we call modern day Albania now. I have already shown the language distribution of Albanian in southern Italy.
-The scholars say that the Albanian language had a local evolution, how can you be transplanted at the same time in Sicily!? among other things, you have only mentioned the distribution where the Albanian dialects are spoken ....

"The Chechen language possesses (as most of the Caucasian languages&#8203;&#8203 ;) a large number of consonants: about 31 (depending on the dialect taken in question), more than those of most of the European languages. Unlike most of the languages &#8203;&#8203;of the Caucasus, also has a large inventory of vowels and diphthongs: about 27 (depending on the dialect analyzed), similar in number and the phonetic vowel system of the Scandinavian languages&#8203;&#8203 ;, German, and Finnish." Where's the affinity with Albanian language!?

Since: Jul 13

Genova, Italy

#91 Oct 20, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's all be honest about something here, plain and simple and skip the romanticist BS.
Modern Europeans for the most part are medieval constructs, formed from the associations and historical forces that played out from Dark ages onwards.
Europeans are really Slavs, Latins, Germans, Turks and Greeks.
Talking about dead Thracians, Illyrians, scordisci, continental Celts is mostly BS. These roaming tribes did not make us, culturally or linguistically in any real sense.
Albanians are simply northern Arabs, a part of those nations including the Chechens and Azari that skirted west and east of the Black Sea and also the Caspian at different times, coalescing in the middle ages.
Serbs are just Balkan Slavs. Serbs don't speak 'Illyrian', Celtic or Iranian to be anything else. That's it.
Don't talk for things that you have not the right skills.The origin of the Serbs ain't the region of Balcan.The Serbs born ethnically from the raid of Slavic tribes,accordingly involved the assimilation of local people..
Jovan

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#92 Oct 20, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>Don't talk for things that you have not the right skills.The origin of the Serbs ain't the region of Balcan.The Serbs born ethnically from the raid of Slavic tribes,accordingly involved the assimilation of local people..
the origin of albanians is the region in and around caucasian albania

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanisation

Since: Mar 13

Melbourne, Australia

#93 Oct 20, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>Don't talk for things that you have not the right skills.The origin of the Serbs ain't the region of Balcan.The Serbs born ethnically from the raid of Slavic tribes,accordingly involved the assimilation of local people..
It's in your face logic and history. Who can argue against the fact that Slavic, Latin and Germanic languages span the length and breadth of Europe, culture and religion all owing so much to the ferment of the middle Ages, including the Arab Caucus input into the Adriatic that ultimately led to you.

You just prefer a fairy tale about ancient dead and sparsely populated tribes that roamed Europe. Muslims especially are hung up on being descended by some ancient European tribes.

Also, I never said that the Serbs originated in the Balkans ? The Serbs are descended of Slavic peoples from an area extending from the Carpathians and the Ukraine. They settled the Balkans in the early medieval, mingled a little with localised elements.

Like I said, Balkan Slavs.

Since: Mar 13

Melbourne, Australia

#94 Oct 20, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>-The scholars say that the Albanian language had a local evolution, how can you be transplanted at the same time in Sicily!? among other things, you have only mentioned the distribution where the Albanian dialects are spoken ....
"The Chechen language possesses (as most of the Caucasian languages&#8203;&#8203 ;) a large number of consonants: about 31 (depending on the dialect taken in question), more than those of most of the European languages. Unlike most of the languages &#8203;&#8203;of the Caucasus, also has a large inventory of vowels and diphthongs: about 27 (depending on the dialect analyzed), similar in number and the phonetic vowel system of the Scandinavian languages&#8203;&#8203 ;, German, and Finnish." Where's the affinity with Albanian language!?
Poster 'France' already covered this in the opening posts of this thread.

A listing of common Caucasus and Albanian words.

CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA and ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA

http://my.opera.com/macedonianneighbourhood/b...

A good read on the subject on the Illyrians is by John Wilkes who goes to show that there is very little relationship between the modern Albanians and the ancient Illyrians.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Illyrians-John-Wilk...

In fact he goes to show that if there is a stronger likely hood of some Illyrian descent in the Dinaric Slav populations.

Personally, my honest opinion is that the 'Illyrians' count for sht, wether we talk about Slavs, Albanians or Latins.

I admit that my ancestors are primarily Slavs from eastern Europe, maybe once living in vast regions of Eurasia. Why don't you admit the fact that you are in strong part of a Caucus origin with some European Slav, Latin and Greek admixture.

Since: Jul 13

Genova, Italy

#95 Oct 21, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
Poster 'France' already covered this in the opening posts of this thread.
A listing of common Caucasus and Albanian words.
CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA and ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA
http://my.opera.com/macedonianneighbourhood/b...
A good read on the subject on the Illyrians is by John Wilkes who goes to show that there is very little relationship between the modern Albanians and the ancient Illyrians.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Illyrians-John-Wilk...
In fact he goes to show that if there is a stronger likely hood of some Illyrian descent in the Dinaric Slav populations.
Personally, my honest opinion is that the 'Illyrians' count for sht, wether we talk about Slavs, Albanians or Latins.
I admit that my ancestors are primarily Slavs from eastern Europe, maybe once living in vast regions of Eurasia. Why don't you admit the fact that you are in strong part of a Caucus origin with some European Slav, Latin and Greek admixture.
-"Dinaric slavs"!from where this come from!?

-The book of Wilkes described the Illyrians in relations with other ancient tribes,culture,heritage..did not talk in relation with Albanians...

-What is that link!a forgery of Skopjan madhouse university dated 1946...!!!my god what an ignorance!a part the fact the translation is made rather wrongly

-Evlyah Celeby was a treveler and writer,how did he come now a lingust,ethnologist,historian

- My people did not settle from caucasus in Sicily by Arabs in 9th,and from there in region of Balkan in 11th with Maniache George
this assumption is ridicolous and is the doughter of Serbian disconfort on Kosovo issue....Our origine is caucasus,but the Slavs are the last people to leave it.
slug and lettuce

London, UK

#96 Oct 21, 2013
Strahdy strategic. I always thought you were born in Australia but now it seems u went to a Serbia primary school where they teach the serboi their stwrong Slavic roots despite the latter bordering on the least dominant of a serboi DNA. At least 44.9 % could do but it's a lot less than that,innit

For some reason I type Strahdovic it comes up as strategic automatically.

Since: Jul 13

Genova, Italy

#97 Oct 21, 2013
http://archiviocaltari.tumblr.com/image/12682...

this must be and have more competence than I do....
Albanian language is an IE family not in relation with no other language,accordingly one of oldest language in the world

Since: Mar 13

Australia

#98 Oct 21, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>-"Dinaric slavs"!from where this come from!?
-The book of Wilkes described the Illyrians in relations with other ancient tribes,culture,heritage..did not talk in relation with Albanians...
-What is that link!a forgery of Skopjan madhouse university dated 1946...!!!my god what an ignorance!a part the fact the translation is made rather wrongly
-Evlyah Celeby was a treveler and writer,how did he come now a lingust,ethnologist,historian
- My people did not settle from caucasus in Sicily by Arabs in 9th,and from there in region of Balkan in 11th with Maniache George
this assumption is ridicolous and is the doughter of Serbian disconfort on Kosovo issue....Our origine is caucasus,but the Slavs are the last people to leave it.
That last line about the Slavs being the last to leave the Caucasus is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction from you, very emotive too.

Look Teddy, we all came from other places, we are all Balkanites from the fact that our ancestors have occupied the region more or less since the early medieval period.

Simply put, the Serbs are Balkan Slavs, and the Albanians are Balkan Chechens. What is wrong with that reality ?

Since: Mar 13

Australia

#99 Oct 21, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
http://archiviocaltari.tumblr. com/image/12682085106
this must be and have more competence than I do....
Albanian language is an IE family not in relation with no other language,accordingly one of oldest language in the world
If Albanian is as regional and as old as you believe it to be why didn't the Albanians have any influence on Europe in the same way that the Latins and Hellenic peoples of the ancient world did ? Even the Celts had been prolific in old Europe.

Well, I suppose there is the fact that you are a primitive lot incapable of advancement. After all, even the original 'Illyrians' had been witless savages who died out without leaving a mark on the region..

Since: Jul 13

Genova, Italy

#100 Oct 21, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
If Albanian is as regional and as old as you believe it to be why didn't the Albanians have any influence on Europe in the same way that the Latins and Hellenic peoples of the ancient world did ? Even the Celts had been prolific in old Europe.
Well, I suppose there is the fact that you are a primitive lot incapable of advancement. After all, even the original 'Illyrians' had been witless savages who died out without leaving a mark on the region..
That means we took place far before you in the region,you after us....(as forever)I had my settlements when you roamed like nomads out of Balkan...
all what you you get today are lands granted by emperor of Byzantines.they gave you a shell of sht,you still have that...
Tell me where are your ancient lands?!
you were always uncomfortable in every conqueror,a sort of meat for butchering,a pillow in every border

Since: Jul 13

Genova, Italy

#101 Oct 21, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
That last line about the Slavs being the last to leave the Caucasus is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction from you, very emotive too.
Look Teddy, we all came from other places, we are all Balkanites from the fact that our ancestors have occupied the region more or less since the early medieval period.
Simply put, the Serbs are Balkan Slavs, and the Albanians are Balkan Chechens. What is wrong with that reality ?
Chechenyan Balkan!
sometimes your brain falls down in that nationalistic azz
Albanians ie murderers

Fremont, CA

#102 Oct 21, 2013
Teddy_ wrote:
<quoted text>enough with fairytales shaggy....
Enough with turning a mentally deranged 3 year old when you have no argument.

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