'Croatia will advocate for Serbia to ...

'Croatia will advocate for Serbia to get talks date'

There are 291 comments on the B92 story from Jun 21, 2013, titled 'Croatia will advocate for Serbia to get talks date'. In it, B92 reports that:

Croatian FM Vesna Pusiae said during a meeting with Tomislav Nikoliae that on June 28 Croatia will advocate for Serbia to obtain a start date for EU talks.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at B92.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#265 Aug 17, 2013
Dr Milan Grol wrote:
<quoted text>
That is an extreme thing to say. Without looking at your nick one would have concluded a Serb chetnik would say such a thing. When ever a Croat gives a strong opinion there will always be an incoherent cetnik blabbering about ustasa jasenovac..
You go out of your way sledging Croats. ever thought about becoming a cetnik cheer leader?
Read the comment he was responding to "vesna pusic is a communist yugoslav cow if she likes serbia she can go and live there and not talk on behalf of crroats", particularly on "if she likes Serbia, she can go and live there and not talk on behalf of Croats", incoherent cetnik blabbering about ustasa jasenovac indeed.
josh04

Andover, UK

#268 Aug 18, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember that the Serbs never ran to be part of the Soviet Union, same with this other Union, your European Union.
That was the Soviet union, and it was Tito (a Croat) who told Stalin where to stick it. Any way Serbia wants to join the EU, have you seen how many war criminals they have handed in, talk about desperate.
josh04

Andover, UK

#269 Aug 18, 2013
Strahd wrote:
The EU probably ain't got ten years left on it, and yet someone is talking about 100 years lol. Personally I like the fact that Croatia will be a part of an ideological 20th century dinosaur and Serbia will not. The irony is just too good.
The worlds richest economy with Germany,france and the UK ( amongst the worlds richest countries) as its powerhouse and its only got 10 years, are you insane?
Kop

Slovenia

#270 Aug 18, 2013
josh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
That was the Soviet union, and it was Tito (a Croat) who told Stalin where to stick it. Any way Serbia wants to join the EU, have you seen how many war criminals they have handed in, talk about desperate.
Croatia is the only 1 country in EU with war criminals in Hague
josh04

Andover, UK

#271 Aug 18, 2013
Kop wrote:
<quoted text>
Croatia is the only 1 country in EU with war criminals in Hague
Yeah, the difference is most of Croatia's war criminals have been aquitted ;)

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#272 Aug 18, 2013
josh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
The worlds richest economy with Germany,france and the UK ( amongst the worlds richest countries) as its powerhouse and its only got 10 years, are you insane?
Nope, just going by history. For instance, the Brits are smart for not taking up the Euro.
haha

Kursumlija, Serbia

#274 Aug 18, 2013
Dalmatin wrote:
The E.U. is a Big Boys Club.
All of the smaller nations joining this un-holy alliance will no longer have theyre own independent foreign policies & independent ecconomic policies.
The larger E.U. member states will have the say in everything & the smaller member states will have to tow the line, it is already happening !!!!
For example Croatia & al Assad's Syria & Gaddafi's Libya were ecconomic & strategic friends & partners under President Stipe Mesic's leadership but with the new President Ivo Josipovic's more vigorous pro-E.U. stance these old friendships from the past have been abandoned in favour of the E.U's foreign policy
Whats with that "Big boys club" ?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#275 Aug 19, 2013
josh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
The worlds richest economy with Germany,france and the UK ( amongst the worlds richest countries) as its powerhouse and its only got 10 years, are you insane?
Yes and they are getting tired of supporting poor, corrupt, backward countries like Greece, Spain, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Lithuania and with Croatia just jumping on the ladder dragging everyone down, it won't be long before the German, French and Brits call for a referendum on whether to dissolve the union, even the poor countries I mentioned don't want to be part of the union as they feel the union caused most of their problems. And the worlds powerhouse are not Germany, France and the UK which are living under austerity with insolvent banks, the world powerhouse are the BRICS countries, the South American countries and some resource rich African countries.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#276 Aug 19, 2013
josh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, the difference is most of Croatia's war criminals have been aquitted ;)
Yeah, well most of Serbia's war criminals have mysteriously died in prison. Name one war criminal which has actually been sentenced.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#277 Aug 19, 2013
Koraly wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, well most of Serbia's war criminals have mysteriously died in prison. Name one war criminal which has actually been sentenced.
They can't. They can never produce any evidence. Poisoned or die of old age, but never guilty.
josh04

Andover, UK

#278 Aug 19, 2013
Koraly wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and they are getting tired of supporting poor, corrupt, backward countries like Greece, Spain, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Lithuania and with Croatia just jumping on the ladder dragging everyone down, it won't be long before the German, French and Brits call for a referendum on whether to dissolve the union, even the poor countries I mentioned don't want to be part of the union as they feel the union caused most of their problems. And the worlds powerhouse are not Germany, France and the UK which are living under austerity with insolvent banks, the world powerhouse are the BRICS countries, the South American countries and some resource rich African countries.
Why are people so quick to focus on the negatives of the EU? It was a global recession that hit every country hard, I challenge you to find any well off country that was not hit hard by the recession. The EU combined earns trillions of dollars and is expanding to get free trade agreements with north America,a move that will propel eu economies forward. Things have improved drastically since the crisis in 2011, the Greek,italian and portuguese economies are slowly but surley stablising, while the British and German economies showed growth. Britain slags off the euro but it is doing better than the pound which has dropped behind the dollar and the euro like a brick, even the Swiss franc is dropping behind the euro.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#279 Aug 19, 2013
My opinion is that Croatia is part of the last wave of new members to join the EU. The Croatians still haven’t switched the Kuna to the Euro. The Kuna is still legal tender. There are Serbs that want in, freedom to move and find work within the EU is an incentive for some, actually for many, but it isn’t going to probably happen for a number of reasons, not unless the Serbs sell much of what they have left, and the EU finds a use for them ie cheap labour and eastern European fodder for EU troop deployments in future military engagements.

We Serbians are not a stupid people, and I don’t believe Serbs in general would be a part of anything that would further strip the country of its territory and resources, the loss of mining interests in Kosovo are a reminder.

In effect, they can stay outside the EU and still make investment and business arrangements with the West or the East, this way not beholden to Brussels or Berlin, only to themselves more or less. Still stay independent.

Europe is still a powerhouse, but it seems that the future is going east. Russia is still the largest country in heavy industry, Europe being dependent on its gas pipelines for instance. The Russians and other people’s of that region don’t have the political hang ups and complexes of the Europeans for another thing.

The other day my father showed me some stuff on Omsk, which is in southwestern Siberia, a beautiful city and an important railroad hub, an innovative city boasting some of the best educational institutions in Russia. All sorts of innovation in mechanical engineering, mining transportation, aviation and space, communication and the Russian defence industry. The development of T 80 tanks by the Omsktransmash or Transport Mechanical Engineering Plant one example.

Places to watch for in the future will be eastern Russia, and maybe not so much Western Europe. The east is where it is at. Nearly everything in Australia is made in China. I would welcome Russia becoming a more integral participant in this region.

Zivela Srbija
Dr Milan Sufflay

Melbourne, Australia

#280 Aug 19, 2013
I would further add to Strahd's post by stating that Eastern, Central European & South Eastern European nations are not compatible with Western European institutions & way of life.

America & their Western European lackeys are a bunch of capitalistic/imperialistic corrupted socialites.
josh04

Andover, UK

#281 Aug 19, 2013
Koraly wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, well most of Serbia's war criminals have mysteriously died in prison. Name one war criminal which has actually been sentenced.
gladly,
Milan Babic- 13 years for murder and expulsion of hundreds of croats
Radovan broljan- 32 years
Ranko Cesic- 18 years for leading the brcko massacre
Damir dosen- 5 years
Stanislav Dosen- 20 years, for his role in the siege of sarajevo
Miroslav Kvocka - 7 years, for crimes at omarska camp
Milorad Krnojelac- 15 years,Foca massacres
Radoslav Krstic - 46 years, srebrenica massacre

That's just a few... There are loads more
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#282 Aug 19, 2013
That is the very first and most importance that Russian people must not sell any military equipment to China at all from now on, and on anything related.

This is because the situation is unclear regarding Taiwan and China in their association and how they will turn out to be under US intrusion steps into Asia. For one thing, China already is making its own military hardware. From their Taiwan association, those equipment US selling to Taiwan could end up in China or not, is a concern. Whether China is gambling between Russia and US is another situation that China must be the junior associate and supporter in the region, by taking India as the larger role as co-partnership by supplying India and others with a lot more military hardware. US attempt to associate with China in their military exchange must not be joined by Russia, as they have mutual distrust between themselves while they will be bound to fail in a lot of areas because THERE is no common ground. Russians ought to say to China it does not make any sense for the Chinese with US, but its position of supporting and co-partnership must be dealt accordingly as relying and the stand as the bottom line, because it is US deceit scheme to get US into Asia to harm Chinese and other people. But the dilemma that China is also interested in getting rid of US imperialism seems lacking the OUTLOOK WITH showing confused stand.

But basically, the Russian people must have the military capability be the great strength of all, but not China because China might take it for a name if giving to it, rather than doing the accomplishing the real results and purpose. If choices are AS such, India WOULD RATHER BE THE MILITARY POWER BETTER THAN CHINA if India can do it in the moderate length of time. Economically, it is the same thing, only if India can hoist its economy climbing in moderate time to the long run.
Therefore, India should be the vested market for Russia in the long run when China will be less viable and defective in the long turn ,in economics as well. India has to be kept to note the awareness of US neo-Hitler NAZISM colonialism to make it the direction for its evolvement.

The most important display signal by using Russian military connection , exercises and training and presence in the region and dialogue saying to US that it is unacceptable for US making trouble to the Asia Pacific region because Asia is indeed the Russian people's home turf as well.

For Putin to do nothing about it and let US go its way to get others to do whatever, will give rise to serious hazards and problematic situations.

IT HAS TO BE DONE IN SUCH WAY BY RUSSIAN PEOPLE AND MANY PEOPLE WORLDWIDE TOGETHER, SO THAT THE UTMOST NECESSARY AND great forward DIRECTION IS proceeded in the great and right way.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#283 Aug 19, 2013
josh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are people so quick to focus on the negatives of the EU? It was a global recession that hit every country hard, I challenge you to find any well off country that was not hit hard by the recession. The EU combined earns trillions of dollars and is expanding to get free trade agreements with north America,a move that will propel eu economies forward. Things have improved drastically since the crisis in 2011, the Greek,italian and portuguese economies are slowly but surley stablising, while the British and German economies showed growth. Britain slags off the euro but it is doing better than the pound which has dropped behind the dollar and the euro like a brick, even the Swiss franc is dropping behind the euro.
Maybe because Europe stayed in recession for 7 years whereas everyone stayed for a maximum of 3-4 years. You challenge me ok, I can name at least two countries which weren't hit hard but I'm sure there are plenty more, Indonesia and South Africa were barely affected by the global recession, in fact most people living in those countries didn't even know there was a global crisis.

Now people don't like the EU because the EU showed its true colors, dominance of a few members while the others are merely colonies, the EU is only France, Germany and the UK nothing else. And those members can make decisions which affect the lives of people living in EU member states without consulting the people living in EU member states, decisions such as shutting down all nuclear power stations in Europe in favor of importing electricity from Germany and relying on expensive inefficient solar panels from Germany because non-German solar panels are banned in the EU.

The other problem is that periphery states like Bulgaria and Romania joined because they thought the EU would help them but they realized the EU has no intention of helping them, the only reason they were brought into the EU is to keep them out of Russian influence and into German/American influence. Now people are quick to say that's a good thing, Russia is evil, America/Germany is good, but the problem is if you look at reality these two countries got to where they are and became in the poor state they are now when Russia lost its influence and the EU/West gained influence, thats when things started deteriorating in those two countries.

The problem with the EU is that all the good talk about the EU, partnership, unity, European values, democracy blah blah, is just propaganda, the reality is exploitation, dominance and colonialism of Europe by an elite class which the mass population works as slaves for.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#284 Aug 19, 2013
Strahd wrote:
My opinion is that Croatia is part of the last wave of new members to join the EU. The Croatians still haven’t switched the Kuna to the Euro. The Kuna is still legal tender. There are Serbs that want in, freedom to move and find work within the EU is an incentive for some, actually for many, but it isn’t going to probably happen for a number of reasons, not unless the Serbs sell much of what they have left, and the EU finds a use for them ie cheap labour and eastern European fodder for EU troop deployments in future military engagements.
We Serbians are not a stupid people, and I don’t believe Serbs in general would be a part of anything that would further strip the country of its territory and resources, the loss of mining interests in Kosovo are a reminder.
In effect, they can stay outside the EU and still make investment and business arrangements with the West or the East, this way not beholden to Brussels or Berlin, only to themselves more or less. Still stay independent.
Europe is still a powerhouse, but it seems that the future is going east. Russia is still the largest country in heavy industry, Europe being dependent on its gas pipelines for instance. The Russians and other people’s of that region don’t have the political hang ups and complexes of the Europeans for another thing.
The other day my father showed me some stuff on Omsk, which is in southwestern Siberia, a beautiful city and an important railroad hub, an innovative city boasting some of the best educational institutions in Russia. All sorts of innovation in mechanical engineering, mining transportation, aviation and space, communication and the Russian defence industry. The development of T 80 tanks by the Omsktransmash or Transport Mechanical Engineering Plant one example.
Places to watch for in the future will be eastern Russia, and maybe not so much Western Europe. The east is where it is at. Nearly everything in Australia is made in China. I would welcome Russia becoming a more integral participant in this region.
Zivela Srbija
Don't be fooled by the freedom to travel and work in Western Europe. First of all if you join you will probably have restrictions just like Romania and Bulgaria have restrictions which no one will want them to be lifted. Second of all Westerners with their superiority complex won't want you in their countries, and you shouldn't want to be in their countries either because you are benefitting their economies while negatively affecting the economy of your home country due to the brain drain. If Serbia joins the EU it will just be another Bulgaria and Romania, so Serbs should not want to join.
Karolcik

Prague, Czech Republic

#285 Aug 19, 2013
Koraly, although you are right almost in every direction and there is not much to add to your comments from me, you shouldn't forget that we're talking here not of liberals or free-thinkers being subjugated to a bad elite, but about outright nazis, murderes, rasists and beasts in the very meaning of these words. People hailing any crime that might have been committed against the neighbouring states or against dissenters within their own society. People who haven't yet gone through denazification. It might seem to you that everybody hates the EU - but if you looked closer at it, you would find that what they hate more are their neighbours, the neighbouring states.

In the end, the EU comes quite untouched from all the turmoils, because it represents a certain compromise.

On surface it may seem like we all agree and even love each other, for example the Czechs and Slovaks. But under the surface you would find that 70 % of Czechs and Slovaks secretely wish each other's destruction. And I bet the Czecho-Slovak relations are nevertheless among the better ones in the region.

The nation state can't survive if they wish to go on like this.

pocahontas

Etobicoke, Canada

#286 Aug 19, 2013
Karolcik wrote:
Koraly, although you are right almost in every direction and there is not much to add to your comments from me, you shouldn't forget that we're talking here not of liberals or free-thinkers being subjugated to a bad elite, but about outright nazis, murderes, rasists and beasts in the very meaning of these words. People hailing any crime that might have been committed against the neighbouring states or against dissenters within their own society. People who haven't yet gone through denazification. It might seem to you that everybody hates the EU - but if you looked closer at it, you would find that what they hate more are their neighbours, the neighbouring states.
In the end, the EU comes quite untouched from all the turmoils, because it represents a certain compromise.
On surface it may seem like we all agree and even love each other, for example the Czechs and Slovaks. But under the surface you would find that 70 % of Czechs and Slovaks secretely wish each other's destruction. And I bet the Czecho-Slovak relations are nevertheless among the better ones in the region.
The nation state can't survive if they wish to go on like this.
As I've told you before, you give yourself too much right to judge where you have none. Find yourself an island and fill it with those you consider worthy and live happily ever after. Bon voyage.
Karolcik

Prague, Czech Republic

#287 Aug 19, 2013
pocahontas wrote:
<quoted text>
As I've told you before, you give yourself too much right to judge where you have none. Find yourself an island and fill it with those you consider worthy and live happily ever after. Bon voyage.
I consider everybody worthy.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Serbia Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Merkel wants Kosovo in the UN 23 min Greater albania 71
Poll Do you feel shame being a Muslim ? 30 min Greater albania 1
why serbs dont have kids ? 13 hr what 1
Vucic "must stop supporting Dodik" - German ana... 22 hr Ima BOGA 1
Serbian PM "thanks English and others" for thei... 22 hr Ima BOGA 1
Kapetana Dragana u četvrtak izručuju ... 22 hr Ima BOGA 1
News Croat, Serb organisations urge reconciliation (Jan '14) Mon Strahd 12,486
More from around the web