Nikola Tesla - was not a serb - FRAUD EXPOSED

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Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#1 Dec 15, 2012
This topic is on the series of fraudualent claims which go to form the basis of serb claims on Nikola Tesla's ethnicity.

The evidence is both irrefutable and relevant because all serbian claims on his ethnicity are based on the following points.

WARNING

The following uncovers one of the greatest lies ever told in the history of the world, and it originates from the Serbs.

Yes!!! I KNOW, you're probably in shock right now and can't believe that Serbs would lie, but I'm sorry to say that the evidence is undeniable.

Please, sit back, pour a glass of wine, and enjoy your ride on the serbian lie train.

^_*
Not This Again

Australia

#2 Dec 15, 2012
You have already had more than a few glasses of wine from the sounds of you, but please continue. I haven't read a good science fiction yarn for awhile.
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#3 Dec 15, 2012
FRAUD
"I'm equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian homeland"

Crown "evidence" that Tesla considered himself and was Serb are telegrams that he and Croatian politician Dr Vladko Macek alledgely exchanged in 1936. In first telegram send to Nikola Tesla by leader of strongest Croatian political party HSS (Croatian Peasant Party) Dr Vladko Macek on May 25th 1936, Macek allegedly wrote as follows:

"To great son of Serbian nation and Croatian homeland, leader of the mankind in struggle against the nature congratulation in the name of Croatian people"

Not a word for what his congratulations are for? It has been alleged that Macek first sent a congratulatory telegram to Tesla, possibly on the occasion of Tesla's birthday, which Tesla allegedly answered, but the problem with this is that this telegram is dated May 26th and Tesla's birthday is on July 10th.

Alternative allegation was that Macek congratulated Tesla on some of his latest great inventions, but latest Tesla patented invention was from year 1928 eight years earlier. Pretty late congratulation isn't it? By the time of this alleged telegrams Tesla was 80 years old and his fertile inventions and science day were long gone. He lived the last ten years (1933-1943) of his life in a two-room suite on the 33rd floor of the hotel New Yorker, room 3327. There, near the end of his life, Tesla showed signs of encroaching mental illness, claiming to be visited by a specific white pigeon daily. Several biographers note that Tesla viewed the death of the pigeon as a "final blow" to himself and his work.

Also in that year Tesla didn’t receive any award or any other important sign of recognition for his work. So why the hell did Macek congratulate Tesla exactly then? That was never explained.

Also, one might ask, where is the alleged telegram that Macek sent to Tesla? We only have this "photo" but the original was never shown publicly, if it actually even EXISTS.

Second interesting question was why Tesla never ever mentioned such a telegram during his life. Dr Macek also never said or wrote a word about these telegrams, not even in his biography published in 1956.

In fact these alleged telegrams were "discovered" only after bots participants, Tesla and Macek were dead and could not either confirm authenticity of these telegrams.

And it is however very interesting that supposed Macek's telegram has some missing parts. For instance there is no stamp imprint that this alleged telegram was ever received, and also it is not signed by anybody while RCA radiograms from that time (like all received telegrams) had to be signed by receiver. Yet this is not the case with alleged Macek's radiogram to Tesla. Here are two pictures to compare authentic RCA radiogram from that time and this quite obvious forgery. Because alleged Macek's radiogram was obviously never received. Pictures are quite big so I am giving links to them.
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#4 Dec 15, 2012
“RCA radiogram" which Dr Macek allegedly send to Nikola Tesla”
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

“Original random RCA radiogram from 1940 “
http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/1940.01....

Tesla allegedly answered next day, may 26th 1936. And he "wrote" famous words which are taken for granted and repeated like mantra in which nobody dares to doubt:

"I'm equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian homeland. Long live all Yugoslavs."

These words become dogma which served as the ultimate evidence that Nikola Tesla was Serb.

Yet there are many interesting questions about this "telegram" allegedly sent from Nikola Tesla to Vlatko Macek in 1936 which leads us to conclusion that it is just a simple fake because it does not have the distinguishing characteristics of a received telegram. Below is how a 1936 Western Union telegram looks. The example has been chosen randomly from a website about telegram history ( rife.org )

In the textbox at top left of authentic telegram it states, "Class of Service. This is a full-rate Telegram or Cablegram unless its deferred character is indicated by a suitable symbol above or preceding the address." In textbox at top right of authentic telegram, sent and received, an explanation of the symbols used in the message appears.(see below, 1st image) Note, as part of the body of the message a symbolic code appears, the originating address, the class of service and time. There are no lines on this form.

Image 1
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6077/6100429272...

Image 2
http://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/westunio...

The above document (see above, 2nd image) which contains an alleged message by Nikola Tesla is an APPLICATION TO SEND A TELEGRAM, not a telegram. The alleged message in ticker tape, including telegraphic equal symbols, has been glued onto an Application form in order to make it appear as an authentic telegram, but missing are the symbols which refer to the location and origin of the sender. In textbox at top left of Application form the sender is instructed to indicate how he wants the telegram or cable to be sent by listing classes of service, for example, Day Letter, Night Letter, etc. In textbox at top right of Application form details about payment appear. Above the message it states, "Send the following message, subject to the terms on back hereof, which are hereby agreed to." At bottom of Application it states, "Senders address for reference. The quickest, surest and safest way to send money is by telegraph or cable. Sender's telephone number."

Telegram Applications would normally be in handwriting or typewritten on the lines provided, and applicants would not use ticker tape which blocks out those lines, nor would applicants use the equals sign (=). In the case of this document there is no distinguishing symbol as to the origin of the alleged telegram, no registration symbol showing from where it was sent or which Class of Service, and at what time. The only mark on the telegram is a Nikola Tesla Museum stamp (this particular museum is in Belgrade, which has handed it to the NY Tesla Society for use). The alleged telegram addressed to Macek in Zagreb was not received in Zagreb because it would appear on an official Yugoslav header with Latin and Cyrillic writing on the top, and not on a Western Union form. There is no way to verify where the message came from.
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#5 Dec 15, 2012
All that can be seeing better on these pictures. Again, since they are too big to post them here I give links to them:

**Tesla's alleged Western Union telegram sent to Dr Vlatko Macek on May 26th 1936. addressed, very interestingly, only with Dr Vlatko Macek, Zagreb, Yugoslavia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Same ALLLEGED telegram once more
http://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/westunio...

AUTHENTIC Western Union Telegram samples:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mzw0EMmlt2k/SEuj0wT...
http://oldlibrarysite.villanova.edu/services/...
http://www.dvrbs.com/Monuments/clementon/WW2-...
http://www.dvrbs.com/monuments/clementon/WW2-...

Go to Google Images for countless examples -

Everyone who looks at these telegrams will notice that they all have same elements. All but one, the alleged Tesla telegram. It is more than obvious that this "telegram" is forgery probably created by Savo Kosanovic, Tesla's nephew, high ranking Yugoslav communist official and self-proclaimed main "interpreter" of Tesla's thoughts and supplier of "unknown documents" from Tesla's life.

But why should anybody want to falsify such documents? First of all Tesla's worldwide glory was ideal for spreading communist propaganda. And phrase "Serbian origins and Croatian homeland" of "Greatest son of our people (beside Tito himself, of course)" was absolutely in accordance with basic communist policy called "bratstvo i jedinstvo naroda i narodnosti" (Brotherhood and unity of our nation and ethnic minorities) which was in very foundation of Tito's policy. Combination of Serbian organs and Croatian homeland was ideal to seal forced "brotherhood" between the two largest ex-Yu nations in Croats and Serbs.

And off course, convenient circumstance was that this "telegrams" clearly claimed that most famous "Yugoslavian" beside Tito, was none the less a Serb after all. Naturally, this historical forgery was repeated millions of times in every possible occasion so most of people have accepted it as a truth. Serbs got one of greatest scientific minds and Croats also get some leftovers, comforting price - shallow "my Croatian homeland" phrase. Only difference is that it is absolutely without any doubt that Croatia actually was his homeland where he and his forefathers were born (although he didn't care about it at all), while there are very strong arguments that ethnically he wasn't of Serb origins (for which he didn't care either).

I wrote so much about this alleged telegrams only because they are taken as by far most important piece of evidence that Nikola Tesla was ethnic Serb and that he considered himself a Serb patriot, what is very doubtful and absolutely unproven until now. And that is why forgeries like this were needed. Simply to enforce one shameful historic lie.
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#6 Dec 15, 2012
FRAUD
"Tesla funeral and TAMO DALEKO song"

And how was this "orthodox Serb" commemorational ceremony held?
http://www.teslasociety.com/teslaevening.htm
It was held in Anglican cathedral of St. John the Divine, while Tesla's coffin was wrapped in American and Yugoslavian (there was not one Serbian flag around) flags. Prior to the ceremony, New York mayor of Italian descent Fiorello La Guardia read out on the radio a speech about "Great American - Nikola Tesla" written by american writer of Slovenian descent and Tesla's good friend Louis Adamic. During that time, in background, another Tesla's friend famous Croatian violinist Zlatko Balokovic was playing "Ave Maria" and not the ALLEGED Serbian song "Tamo daleko".
In his message American vice president Wallace wrote about "Nikola Tesla - Yugoslav born". Chief mourner was Sava Kosanovic, Tesla's nephew and high ranking official of socialist Yugoslavia. There was only Socialist Yugoslav delegation present, but none represents of Serbian community from either Serbia, either USA. Btw, although there was Serbian orthodox church in New York and other mayor US cities, commemoration was held as I wrote in anglican cathedral without any orthodox priests being present. Quite unexpecting for such a great "sworn Serb" and son of "serbian orthodox priest" isn't it?
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#7 Dec 15, 2012
FRAUD
"Ethnic Origins"
The main argument for this claim is that he was son of orthodox priest in his village. Serbs say that Tesla's father was priest of Serbian Orthodox Church which is first in long sequence of lies, half-truths and disinformation’s about his ethnic origins. Namely in time when Nikola Tesla was born (1856), same as never before that there were no autocephalous Serbian orthodox church which was founded as autocephalous nation-based church only in 1920th. Nikola's father Milutin was however as priest under jurisdiction of Patriarchate of Karlovci - which included a large territory that stretched from Adriatic sea to Bukovina and from Danube and Sava to Upper Hungary. The Patriarchate had a jurisdiction over Orthodox Serbs, Romanians, Greeks, orthodox Croats and Cincars that lived in the Habsburg Monarchy. So it was one large multi ethnic Patriarchate based on common affiliation to one large Empire. Until 1918, many of territories, that later fell under jurisdiction of Serb Orthodox Church, belonged to eparchy of Dalmatia-Bukovina and were directly under the Patriarch of Constantinople.

Even its seat small town of Srijemski Karlovci came under Serbian power only after forming of common South Slavic state in 1918th. Before that province of Srijem was a part of kingdom of Croatia (which was part of Hungarian Croatian kingdom and later Habsburg Monarchy) or so called Military Krajina but never before 1918 it wasn't under of any kind of Serbian jurisdiction.

But all this historical facts didn't stopped Serbs to claim this multiethnic Patriarchy as exclusively "Serbian" and all orthodox believers in western Balkans as "Serbs".

The reason why I wrote so much about Orthodox Church organisation was because Serbian orthodox priests and later church have had key role in enforced serbianisation of all orthodox believers in this part of Europe regardless of their ethnic origins. In accordance with Vuk Karadzic’s chauvinistic motto "Srbi, svi i svuda" (Serbs everyone and everywhere) and Ilija Garasanin's "greater serbia" imperial political programme "Nacertanie" (roughly "Scheme") Serbian priests which always had support from Turkish sultans same as Austrian emperors managed to convert all Western Balkans orthodox believers which are now considering themselves Serbs although most of them don't in fact have Serbian ethnic origins (Valachians, Greeks, Cincars, orthodox Croats etc).

It seems that family of Nikola Tesla were also part of this serbisied Valachian ethnic corpus, namely of Istro-Romanian origins.
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#8 Dec 15, 2012
THE TRUTH
“Isro-Romanian ancestry”
Nicolae Teslea is the descendant of people of Vlah/ Romanian or Istro-Romanian origin.

His father was Milutin Teslea. The family of the father was formerly Draghici, a common Romanian name.

His mother was called Gica Mandici. Gica is a short form of Georgica, a Romanian name.

His sisters were:

Anghelina

Milica

Marita

Milica (pronounced Milika) is a short form of Romanian Emilia.

Marita is a form of Maria also found in other Balkanic languages but more commonly with the Romanian.

http://www.istro-romanian.net/articles/art990...
Nicolae Teslea

Adelaide, Australia

#10 Dec 15, 2012
IMPORTANT NOTE

I do not claim credit for this marvellous piece of forensics into uncovering serbian SHAMELESS LIES.

The data was compiled by a "Von Beckers" on the stormfront website.
This genius was initially heckled and challenged by serb members, that is until he started to unveil his first piece of evidence (God Bless Him).

Since 2007, not one serb member has attempted to challenge his findings, primarily because of the fact that they're pretty well screwed. Oh! he's fkd you all big time hahahaa

**
Perhaps Dr Strahd and his crew of SOB's can refute these findings...hahahaaaa just kidding, you clowns couldn't find a fck in a brothel.

PS
Breaking your balls has never been my intention, but now that I know what it feels like, I quite like it!

...it's like Christmas has arrived a week early.
Dalmatino

Australia

#13 Dec 16, 2012
Well I haven't seen anything so devoid of Serbs since Gotovina's liberation force entered Knin.

This Serbian lie is right up there with a few others, and it's very safe to call the serb WW2 death toll claim and their version of the 90's war a big fat lie.

lol, how fkn stupid. They picked a Telegram request form to forge an actual Telegram supposedly sent by Tesla, and Tamo Daleko? hmmm...it is very far from the truth looooool
Nandrelle

Dubai, UAE

#14 Dec 16, 2012
The whole Serbian existance is a lie!
Dr Strahd

Australia

#15 Dec 16, 2012
I can appreciate the time it has taken for the Croat poster to present this information.

However, it is simple distortion and false, not grounded in reality.

Croatians, lacking identifiable Croats of fame in their own culture and history constantly seek to subvert and denigrate Serbian individuals of note.

I will allow the confused Poster to revel in their unsupported statements and distortions for now.

l already have the death blow post that will end this farce in one fell swoop, but like to savour the moment and will present this information in my good time.

Tesla is 100 percent Serbian.
Dr Strahd

Australia

#16 Dec 16, 2012
I will say that their is nothing new under the sun as far as the above propaganda is concern.

Some crap obsessiveness about a telegram. That bit about the Anglican Cathedral was silly as Croats are not Anglicans, but Catholics in any case.

The above is like clutching at straws.

Something akin to 'if Strahd is really Serbian why did he say some of his fav food is Pizza, also note the Holden he drives.......'

The name stretch is absolutely stupid considering Serb first names are derived from Slavic, Latin, Biblical Hebrew and Hellenic.

Source of the Croats info

"The data was compiled by a "Von Beckers" on the stormfront website"

Stormfront, yeah, bet you frequent that place, real bonafide stuff coming from neo Nazis.

In all honesty this is stupid as arguing that I have evidence that Elvis Presley did not really die and is now playing to aliens on other planets.

Dumb
Dalmatino

Australia

#17 Dec 16, 2012
and denial
Nandrelle

Dubai, UAE

#18 Dec 16, 2012
And everything and everyone must be Serbian! I sh*t on the Serbian identity!
Nandrelle

Slovenia

#19 Dec 16, 2012
Mother of Nikola Tesla was daughter of Serbian Orthodox Church Priest
Father of Nikola Tesla was an Serbian Orthodox Church Priest
Nikola Tesla was pure Serbian
Nandrelle

Slovenia

#20 Dec 16, 2012
Nikola Tesla was Orthodox and istro romanians are catholic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istro-Romanians

"Ivkovic is related to the famous Serbian scientist Nikola Tesla Ivkovic's maternal grandmother, Olga Mandic and Tesla's mother Djuka Mandic were sisters."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du%C5%A1an_Ivkov...

CCCC
Nicolae Teslea wrote:
THE TRUTH
“Isro-Romanian ancestry”
Nicolae Teslea is the descendant of people of Vlah/ Romanian or Istro-Romanian origin.
His father was Milutin Teslea. The family of the father was formerly Draghici, a common Romanian name.
His mother was called Gica Mandici. Gica is a short form of Georgica, a Romanian name.
His sisters were:
Anghelina
Milica
Marita
Milica (pronounced Milika) is a short form of Romanian Emilia.
Marita is a form of Maria also found in other Balkanic languages but more commonly with the Romanian.
http://www.istro-romanian.net/articles/art990...
diroguevara

Madliena, Malta

#21 Dec 16, 2012
Since when there are romanians living in Serb Krajina having both Serb parents with Serbian name and surname?

The ammount of nonsense croat ustashe nazis make up against Serbs always amuses me
Nandrelle

Slovenia

#22 Dec 16, 2012
Nicolae Teslea wrote:
FRAUD
"are now considering themselves Serbs although most of them don't in fact have Serbian ethnic origins (Valachians, Greeks, Cincars, orthodox Croats etc).
It seems that family of Nikola Tesla were also part of this serbisied Valachian ethnic corpus, namely of Istro-Romanian origins.
Nikola Tesla was not "serbisied Valachian" he was Serb and also there is no such thing as "Orthodox Croats"

Nikola Tesla family and their ancestors were Serbs.Also Nikola Tesla's Krsna Slava was Saint George.He was proud Serb just like Ivo Andric
__________

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatisation
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/kultura.71.html:3...
goat lover

London, UK

#23 Dec 16, 2012
Nicolae Teslea wrote:
FRAUD
"Tesla funeral and TAMO DALEKO song"
And how was this "orthodox Serb" commemorational ceremony held?
http://www.teslasociety.com/teslaevening.htm
It was held in Anglican cathedral of St. John the Divine, while Tesla's coffin was wrapped in American and Yugoslavian (there was not one Serbian flag around) flags. Prior to the ceremony, New York mayor of Italian descent Fiorello La Guardia read out on the radio a speech about "Great American - Nikola Tesla" written by american writer of Slovenian descent and Tesla's good friend Louis Adamic. During that time, in background, another Tesla's friend famous Croatian violinist Zlatko Balokovic was playing "Ave Maria" and not the ALLEGED Serbian song "Tamo daleko".
In his message American vice president Wallace wrote about "Nikola Tesla - Yugoslav born". Chief mourner was Sava Kosanovic, Tesla's nephew and high ranking official of socialist Yugoslavia. There was only Socialist Yugoslav delegation present, but none represents of Serbian community from either Serbia, either USA. Btw, although there was Serbian orthodox church in New York and other mayor US cities, commemoration was held as I wrote in anglican cathedral without any orthodox priests being present. Quite unexpecting for such a great "sworn Serb" and son of "serbian orthodox priest" isn't it?
Socialist Yugoslavia? Doesn't sound correct. Whom do you expect to attend the funeral in 1943? From Serbia?

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