Why Christians do not tolerate Muslims ?

Why Christians do not tolerate Muslims ?

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They do not know Islam

They are afraid of Islam ?

They claim Europe is not for Islam !!

Moderate Muslims are not same as Arabian !

Strahd

Australia

#103 Feb 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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I don't see how the two things are relevant. I have never stated that everything bad that happened to Eastern Europe is because of Western Europe. Dont put words in my mouth.
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Lol, our best friends (Poles) are Slavs.
Perhaps not everything, but the implication from your previous posts had been very....lets just say severe in the case of the Western Europeans.

As much as it burns me to say it I have to agree with that irritating Croat poster in this one case alone when he said that between nations there are no friends, only associates.

My take is that you are confusing current favourable diplomatic conditions between the Polaks and Hungarians as friendship. Wrong conclusions.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#104 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
My take is that you are confusing current favourable diplomatic conditions between the Polaks and Hungarians as friendship. Wrong conclusions.
No, no Strahd, this dates back to the 10th century. Our ties with them have been great, historically, we have official Polish-Hungrian friendship day. We have always helped each other, no matter what. Even when Hungary was allied with Germany, we did everything we could to help Poland.

This is not some "modern day diplomatic thing", it is indeed, a real friendship, they have our back, and we have theirs, if the last 1000 years are anything to go by.
Strahd

Australia

#105 Feb 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
Anyway Strahd, I never claimed to be some kind of "Pan-European" or "Pan-Christian" nationalist.
I am a Hungarian, and a Hungarian nationalist, and my interests are what is best for Hungary, but also for our friends, countries I like and respect, other countries are secondary, or in some cases even tertiary.
Don't give me crap, when it suited you Serbs, you fought on the side of the Ottomans several times. So did we when it was necessary.
Your way of thinking is too narrowminded, Christian = good, Muslim = bad, the world doesn't work that way. Politics is a lot more complex than this, and leads to surprising things.
You lack understanding of our current situation.
Yes, the Serbs have a straight forward thinking about the world. We hate the machinations and new speak of the increasingly alien ideologies of the other Europeans. I take pride in that no nonsense thinking we have.

As for a lack of understanding. Well, you are the one with the Poland is our friend thing. I mean.....
N I 4 N I

Sliema, Malta

#106 Feb 9, 2013
Yeah, a real beauty islam is. Can't marry a girl you love until you convert to islam. Why is it such a crime and sin for a muslim girl to get together with a Christian? How come we dont force muslims to convert to Christianity when it comes to marriage? Everyone can believe in what they want and still a family can be together and have a big love.

Christianity... far better and tolerant than islam. Also, when someone wants (by their own free will, we dont force) to convert to Christianity we dont circumsize and do other foolish things which abuse the body. A person just dives into Holy Water and he/she is reborn again. So you have yet to see what is a beautiful religion is and it's Christianity, you muslim
Strahd

Australia

#107 Feb 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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No, no Strahd, this dates back to the 10th century. Our ties with them have been great, historically, we have official Polish-Hungrian friendship day. We have always helped each other, no matter what. Even when Hungary was allied with Germany, we did everything we could to help Poland.
This is not some "modern day diplomatic thing", it is indeed, a real friendship, they have our back, and we have theirs, if the last 1000 years are anything to go by.
'TRM' you have to be joking lol.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#108 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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Yes, the Serbs have a straight forward thinking about the world. We hate the machinations and new speak of the increasingly alien ideologies of the other Europeans. I take pride in that no nonsense thinking we have.
Is this why Serbs fought on the side of the Ottomans several times, and now Serbs are visiting Islamic countries, including Turkey.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-305997-serbia...

So don't give me this crap about your "Holier than everyone else" attitude and get off your high horse.
Strahd wrote:
As for a lack of understanding. Well, you are the one with the Poland is our friend thing. I mean.....
I assume you haven't read my post above, so I will let this ignorant and "talking out of a55" statement go, for now anyway.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#109 Feb 9, 2013
N I 4 N I wrote:
Yeah, a real beauty islam is. Can't marry a girl you love until you convert to islam. Why is it such a crime and sin for a muslim girl to get together with a Christian? How come we dont force muslims to convert to Christianity when it comes to marriage? Everyone can believe in what they want and still a family can be together and have a big love.
So you found out that you have to convert?
N I 4 N I wrote:
Christianity... far better and tolerant than islam. Also, when someone wants (by their own free will, we dont force) to convert to Christianity we dont circumsize and do other foolish things which abuse the body. A person just dives into Holy Water and he/she is reborn again. So you have yet to see what is a beautiful religion is and it's Christianity, you muslim
Fking hell, if you like tolerance and liberalism that much join the Serb liberal party or something, fcking hell.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#110 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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'TRM' you have to be joking lol.
It is not my fault that you are ignorant and uniformed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_and_Hungari...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary%E2%80%93...
Strahd

Australia

#111 Feb 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Is this why Serbs fought on the side of the Ottomans several times, and now Serbs are visiting Islamic countries, including Turkey.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-305997-serbia...
So don't give me this crap about your "Holier than everyone else" attitude and get off your high horse.
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I assume you haven't read my post above, so I will let this ignorant and "talking out of a55" statement go, for now anyway.
You can find clips from the Serb leadership saying good things about 'closer ties' with Asians, Africans and the middle east. Again, you are confusing diplomacy and trade with something else. A mistake you have already made in relation to the Slavic Poles, and also in relation to the eastern 'Turanian' people.

Perhaps I am too straight down the line, but you seem a little too idealistic in some ways about the relationship of your nation with other nations, and also about the future of Hungary. Time to wake a little.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#112 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd, I just don't appreciate an Australian with Serb descent who lives on the other side of the world, thinking he knows better about my country, who he has probably never been to, probably never will, and has no other relation to, than I do. Thanks....

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#113 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
A mistake you have already made in relation to the Slavic Poles
Nevermind, you won't understand. I am making no mistake or idealism at all. But off course you know better than me....
Strahd

Australia

#114 Feb 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
Strahd, I just don't appreciate an Australian with Serb descent who lives on the other side of the world, thinking he knows better about my country, who he has probably never been to, probably never will, and has no other relation to, than I do. Thanks....
I have been to Europe more than several times, but never been to Hungary, but why should that stop me speaking about general politics. You said the same thing to another poster from Australia.

Australians are prominent on this forum so have at least some respect for the only country in the world that is also a continent, as opposed to the patchwork mess on the large penninsula on the north western end of the Eurasian landmass.

Anyway, here is a link with a reaffirmation between the mighty friendship between the U.S. and Poland.

http://editorials.voa.gov/content/us---poland...

Here is the thing, and this is where it gets messy my. You consider one nation your 'friend', another on a different wavelength, but what if your 'friend' is 'friends' with someone...a little less 'friendly'.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#115 Feb 9, 2013
Also, there is no comparison between the Turanian nations and Poles. They are two different things

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#116 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd Polish Hungarian friendship lives on, even in different times.

It survived WW1, WW2, when we were on different sides.

Heck, us as a Axis country was a better ally to Poles than the allied nations.

The few Polish schools that existed in Europe at the time were in Hungary. We provided refuge, and other help.

Hitler tried to force us to invade then, or at least let them use our railways. We said we would rather blow our tracks up.

So please Strahd, dont bother posting some articles, they are nothing, mean nothing. We support ourselves on all political spectrums.

To try to "refute it" you will embarrss yourself even more.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#117 Feb 9, 2013
I doubt you can comprehended or understand it, it is a unique bond, I know of no other examples, at least I cant think of any within Europe.

It is far above Turanian nations, what we have with Croats, and to say its just "modern day diplomatic relations" is idiotic and insulting.

If you want to know more about this then just ask, just dont try to embarass yourself ;)
Strahd

Melbourne, Australia

#118 Feb 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
I doubt you can comprehended or understand it, it is a unique bond, I know of no other examples, at least I cant think of any within Europe.
It is far above Turanian nations, what we have with Croats, and to say its just "modern day diplomatic relations" is idiotic and insulting.
If you want to know more about this then just ask, just dont try to embarass yourself ;)
You seem to be a little touchy on the subject. Just tone it done a bit.

You don't directly border Poland so historical animosity would be practically minimal. Compare that to the Slavic Slovaks who are not your biggest fans. If Poland had been a direct neighbour you would be singing a different tune.

The proof of what I say is the reaction of Serbs, Slovaks and Romanians to Hungarian territorial intentions.

I highly doubt any special bond exists beyond some mickey mouse 'friendship day' BS. This is Europe we are talking about after all. Not much different from the Turanian thing, just fun, no more realistic than some 'lets get a few shots of us dressed as Huns and go back into town after and get pissed'.

You are an idealist TRM. I remember you wanting to reaffirm some special bond with the Croats until one particular nasty Croat poster shtted all over that notion lol.
Mother Scandinavia

Mosjøen, Norway

#119 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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You seem to be a little touchy on the subject. Just tone it done a bit.
You don't directly border Poland so historical animosity would be practically minimal. Compare that to the Slavic Slovaks who are not your biggest fans. If Poland had been a direct neighbour you would be singing a different tune.
The proof of what I say is the reaction of Serbs, Slovaks and Romanians to Hungarian territorial intentions.
I highly doubt any special bond exists beyond some mickey mouse 'friendship day' BS. This is Europe we are talking about after all. Not much different from the Turanian thing, just fun, no more realistic than some 'lets get a few shots of us dressed as Huns and go back into town after and get pissed'.
You are an idealist TRM. I remember you wanting to reaffirm some special bond with the Croats until one particular nasty Croat poster shtted all over that notion lol.
Who the fu ck do you think you are?, some oracle to all of us?.

You dont know nothing about the Western countrys

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#120 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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You seem to be a little touchy on the subject. Just tone it done a bit.
You don't directly border Poland so historical animosity would be practically minimal. Compare that to the Slavic Slovaks who are not your biggest fans. If Poland had been a direct neighbour you would be singing a different tune.
The proof of what I say is the reaction of Serbs, Slovaks and Romanians to Hungarian territorial intentions.
I highly doubt any special bond exists beyond some mickey mouse 'friendship day' BS. This is Europe we are talking about after all. Not much different from the Turanian thing, just fun, no more realistic than some 'lets get a few shots of us dressed as Huns and go back into town after and get pissed'.
You are an idealist TRM. I remember you wanting to reaffirm some special bond with the Croats until one particular nasty Croat poster shtted all over that notion lol.
The Norwegian is correct, you really do know fck all.

First of all, no border? LOL
Poland and Hungary shared a border for 1000 years. Only in 1920 the (czecho)Slovak state was wedged in between this historic border.
After Trianon, both the Polish goverment and Hungarian goverment worked together to achieve a common border again, which we did.

Territorial wise, The two most important things are to return Transylvania and have a common border with Poland again.

To say that its just "friendship day BS" shows how ignorant you are. I wanted to say dumb at first, but its not your fault. You probably know more about the British Empire and Galipoli than me. G'day mate, throw some shrimp on the barbie, a kangaroo or crocodile burger too, and dring some Fosters.

If you want to attack my point of view, then at least know what you are talking about. Because talking out of your a55 only embarasses you.

Poland offered Hungary military support if JNA dared to touch the Hungarians in Vojvodina, which you were smart enough to more or less leave alone.

As for the Turan"BS" , trade between Hungary and Turkic countries is exponentially growing, and many other political developents have been made.

Take care of your kangaroos before talking shit about a region you know fck all about.
But I forgot, "general politics" lol, you cant do that, region to region is different.
fing fong

Australia

#121 Feb 9, 2013
Strahd wrote:
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Yes, the Serbs have a straight forward thinking about the world. We hate the machinations and new speak of the increasingly alien ideologies of the other Europeans. I take pride in that no nonsense thinking we have.
As for a lack of understanding. Well, you are the one with the Poland is our friend thing. I mean.....
nonsense. serbia wants to join the eu and at the same time serbia is getting used by ru$$ia.

nothing amazing or unique about serbias policies. serbia is just another small country with big problems.
Dalmatino

Australia

#122 Feb 9, 2013
Mother Scandinavia wrote:
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Who the fu ck do you think you are?, some oracle to all of us?.
You dont know nothing about the Western countrys
Don't worry! Pretty soon he'll be doing a big write up on how lowly your origins are and how he is an elite proto Indo European Serbo-Slavic descendant of the forefathers of humanity itself, and how cool they are about it and that they don't really make a big deal about it hehe

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