Which Hungarian cities were Serbian majority once ?

Created by The_Baron on Apr 6, 2013

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Budim

Pecuj

Baja

Segedin

Sentandreja

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#1 Apr 6, 2013
Buda (Budim)
__________
Meaning of the name

Buda" derives from the Slavic word voda" ("water"), a translation of the Latin name "Aquincum", which was the main Roman settlement in the region.

Also, Sanskrit word "buddha" means "awake". The same meaning have Slavic word "budan".

Buda" comes from the Slavic name Budim (identical to the name of City of Buda in Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Slovenian, Macedonian). Budim is a personal name which means "awakened" with the "m" omitted in Hungarian.

Sanskrit word "Buddhaprasth" (seat of Buddha) has an identical meaning in Slavic, say Serbian for example "Buda presto". Buddha is Buda in Serbian and in all languages it means "awakened" and "prasth"/"prest o" means "seat" or "throne" in both languages.

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#2 Apr 6, 2013
Pest
__________

"Pest" originates from the Slavic word for cave " peshtera" or from the word for oven "pesht", in reference to a cave where fires burned or to a local limekiln.

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#3 Apr 6, 2013
1. Budim ( Buda) had between 1706-1708. 484 Serbian taxpayers. Since the year 1695. they were organized in trade and manufacturing unions that represented 20 trades and 88 tradeshops and merchant stores.

According to the data from the year 1715. Buda had 1538 households : 769 were South Slavic,mostly Serbian, 701 were German , and 68 were Hungarian.

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#4 Apr 6, 2013
Center of Buda:
__________

Serbian Orthodox Temple of Saint Dimitrije, Buda, built in 1751. torn down in 1949:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/sites/default/file...

Serbian Orthodox Church temple dedicated to St. Dimitrije in Buda was destroyed by the authorities to make way for a boulevard in XX century. Serbian Orthodox cemetery in Taban that existed between 1796 and 1916 was closed and the remains were in 1930. moved to a crypt in the central Buda cemetery.

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#5 Apr 6, 2013
19th century, Buda became Hungarian majority
__________

With the rural population moving in the capital city, in the 19th century slowly Hungarians became the majority in Buda.

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#6 Apr 6, 2013
2. Pecuj
__________

In 1688 German settlers arrived. Only about one quarter of the city's population was Hungarian, the others were Southern Slavs or Germans.

According to 1698 data, South Slavs comprised more than a half of the population of the town. Because Hungarians were only a minority of the population, Pécs did not support the revolution against Habsburg rule led by Francis II Rákóczi, and his armies pillaged the city in 1704.

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#7 Apr 6, 2013
Yes, we all know that Servs waited until Hungarians were massacred, who then began to move into Hungarian territories. Baron, we all know how proud you must be.

But did you know, that Belgrade was first part of Serbia when Hungarian King gave it to you? Hahaha

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#8 Apr 6, 2013
3. Baja
__________

In 1715, the population of Baja numbered 237 houses, of which 216 were South Slavic (Serb and Bunjevac), 16 Hungarian, and 5 German

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#9 Apr 6, 2013
The_Baron wrote:
Buda (Budim)
__________
Meaning of the name
Buda" derives from the Slavic word voda" ("water"), a translation of the Latin name "Aquincum", which was the main Roman settlement in the region.
Also, Sanskrit word "buddha" means "awake". The same meaning have Slavic word "budan".
Buda" comes from the Slavic name Budim (identical to the name of City of Buda in Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Slovenian, Macedonian). Budim is a personal name which means "awakened" with the "m" omitted in Hungarian.
Sanskrit word "Buddhaprasth" (seat of Buddha) has an identical meaning in Slavic, say Serbian for example "Buda presto". Buddha is Buda in Serbian and in all languages it means "awakened" and "prasth"/"prest o" means "seat" or "throne" in both languages.
Buda comes from Buda, the Hunnic ruler.

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Heraclitus

#10 Apr 6, 2013
Until 1765, the inhabitants belonged to three nations; Croats (under name of Dalmatians), the Germans and the Serbs. The Magyars escaped from the Ottoman Empire.

Following this, according to a government decree the Natio Dalmatica was changed into the Natio Hungarica, but even in 1768, the elected mayor swore the oath in the Croatian language in the Franciscan Church.

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#11 Apr 6, 2013
4. Sentandreja
__________
In 1720, 88% of population of Szentendre were South Slavs (mostly Serbs).

5. Segedin
__________
In 1720, the population of Szeged numbered 193 houses, of which 99 were Serb.

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#12 Apr 6, 2013
During the 18th and 19th century, the Hungarian-Serb ethnic border moved southward and fixed in the territory of present-day Vojvodina.
Dalmatino

Vodice, Slovenia

#13 Apr 6, 2013
All above

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#14 Apr 6, 2013
Baron, did you finish masturbating yet? Once again, Hungarian civilians were massacred by the Ottomans. Actually, South Slavic Janissaries were responsible for pillaging the civilians of Hungary.

After this happened, Serbian opportunists began to move into Hungarian lands and settle in Hungarian cities.

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#15 Apr 6, 2013
The Treaty of Trianon made Kingdom SHS to give Baranya and Baja to Hungary
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Following the dissolution of Austro-Hungarian Monarchy in 1918, the Serbian army and South Slavic People's Administration from Novi Sad controlled not only present-day Vojvodina, but also southern parts of present-day Hungary.

The Treaty of Trianon from 1920 defined the border between Hungary and the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and assigned most of Baranya and the northern part of Bácska (around city of Baja) to Hungary.

As a response to this, a short-lived Serb-Hungarian Baranya-Baja Republic was formed in this area in 1921. The president of the republic was Serb, Petar Dobrovic.

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#16 Apr 6, 2013
The_Baron wrote:
The Treaty of Trianon made Kingdom SHS to give Baranya and Baja to Hungary
No, Treaty of Trianon allowed Hungary to keep Baranya and Baja, and gave the rest of Bácska, Bánát (where Serbs only formed a third of the population) to Serbia.

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#17 Apr 6, 2013
Gave the rest of Bácska, Bánát, Baranya*

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#18 Apr 6, 2013
Baron, are you interested in discussion (are you afraid you will lose?), or only in spamming your propaganda?

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Heraclitus

#19 Apr 6, 2013
Oh, Hungarian people fled in front of Ottomans moving North, for long time period.

Sounds familiar ?

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#20 Apr 6, 2013
The_Baron wrote:
Oh, Hungarian people fled in front of Ottomans moving North, for long time period.
Sounds familiar ?
Serbs fled from Kosovo and South Serbia to South Hungary, while Hungarians went from South Hungary northwards.

I accept this.

As a consequence of the 150 years of constant warfare between the Christian states and Ottomans, population growth was stunted, and the network of ethnic Hungarian medieval settlements, with their urbanized bourgeois inhabitants, perished. The ethnic composition of the territory that formerly was part of the medieval Kingdom of Hungary was fundamentally changed through deportations and massacres, so that the number of ethnic Hungarians in existence at the end of the Ottoman period was substantially diminished

The most severe destructions were experienced during the Hungarian time of troubles, when for the brief period between 1604 and 1606 the worst effects of the controlled confrontation between Ottoman-Habsburg forces were magnified many times over by Hungary's descent into civil war during the Bocskay rebellion.

Demographics of Hungary:
1490: 70-90% Hungarian
1720: 35% Hungarian

Most of the wars were fought on Hungarian territory, while the Slavs and vlachs who lived in the mountains were mostly in peace, this multiplied.

Therefore, you can accept either:
Vojvodina is Serbian, and Kosovo is Albanian
or
Vojvodina is Hungarian, and Kosovo is Serbian

We are talking about a historical point of view. Dont give me your "international law" crap.

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