Greece continues to support Serbia on EU, Kosovo

Full story: B92

Greek Ambassador to Serbia Dimostenis Stoidis estimated on Monday that Serbia deserved to be granted a starting date for EU entry talks.
Comments
41 - 60 of 99 Comments Last updated May 3, 2013

Since: Mar 12

Markham, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#41
Apr 18, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Tosk Albanian wrote:
<quoted text>
you look as a person of character and of more than 14 years old, dont you?
Trust me, if you start getting personal here...

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#42
Apr 18, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

enasEllinas wrote:
<quoted text>
It's obvious that you have no idea about the greek foreign policy.
The reason that Greece doesn't recognise Kosovo is that we are against unilateral border changes. We believe in dialogue. Many other countries are against Kosovo independence.
If you not want change of borders, why Greece splitted from Ottoman Empire? Why South Cyprus splitted from UK? Why you support movement for independent Kurdistan in Turkey?

Since: Mar 12

Markham, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#43
Apr 18, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

1

"Greece continues to support Serbia on EU, Kosovo"

The Eu Millenium goal set Greece as the leader of the Balkans. Greece should ve done even more, but they had the Olympics in the past decade, the crisis now...

Greece will recognize Kosovo. For now, it s better that Greece stands by Serbia and share each other s misery and suffering. I'd rather ve Greece with Serbia, rather than a disgruntled Serbia alone, prey of some other influence

Since: Mar 12

Markham, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#44
Apr 18, 2013
 

Judged:

3

3

2

Tosk Albanian wrote:
and then, what would you call comunist albanians allowing greek minority to take aids from Greek state at a time whole ALbania was isolated from the world, and for more while Greece was part of Western Block?
Greeks of Albania enjoyed special contacts during the whole comunist Albania's time, and used to live better than the rest of us in those hard times. That also increased the number of people wanting to be declared as greeks in the areas near the boundary.
During the communism era, the leader was from the Greek friendly South of Albania. No one would ever call you "you Greek".
During the tensions prior to the declaration of the independence of Kosovo, in times of flared bloods and nationalistic feelings, many people attempted to start spreading hatred against orthodox and Greek Albanians.
I m glad the worms stuck their heads above ground. We kept quiet, bc we would never give Albania an extra conflict of a religious dimension.
Basically, the Slav Albanians put some negativity out there into the ether against the Greek minority in Albania. Some type of jealousy/competition. Some of them work in the media, and misuse their duty, unprofessionally inciting hatred and bringing the Yugo barf poision of negativity and lies into Albania.
The Wahabists pocket groups in Kosovo, extreme Islamists with foreign funding,started spreading religious propaganda against both Orthodox Albanians and the Greek minority advocating for islam to become the only religion of Albanians. These people are not your typical Kosovan.
For me, I ve only been insulted once of my Greek heritage. I had a crush on a classmate sitting behind me and had practiced many times at home how I d turn around and look, and talk to him, hopefully. We had only talked so many years briefly when he asked to borrow my assignments ...wondering how my profile would look at him, and all those teenage girly thoughts of the times...so I did that,and...he kicked my chair so violently. I hit the bench and got really hurt. Tall basketball player and all that. What hurt me even more was what he shouted loudly, "why are you looking at me with irony, you Greek **********" . Such a shock
Years later, in the era of FB, I (hid my profile, blocked the raging donkey) but noticed his family were all serbian names. That explained the mystery. He fit the "ambivalent" psychological personality type profile.
Patience. In the end wins who has the most patience over all the happenings.
Dalmatino

Australia

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#45
Apr 19, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

2

Croats and Serbs have bad blood between them and there'll never be any reconciliation, it is what it is. There are elements on both sides that would see the domination of the other by any means, however, both Serbs and Croats are at least agree that there's a place for each other in the region regardless.
The Albanian aspirations for a greater Albania are far more dangerous than any Greater Croatia or Serbia because it sees no place for Slavs and would seek the total annihilation of them.

European nations, in particular the Balkan states, treat diplomatic relations like Eurovision voting - you vote for me and I'll vote for you. Croatians need not have their judgment clouded by poor Croat-Serb relations as sovereignty is a matter of principle, where past and present hostility and unresolved issues mustn't influence such decisions.
Just as a krajina state is unacceptable for Croatia so should be a fake KosovA state. The governments decision to recognise was a counter recognition and one that should be withdrawn. An influential worldwide diaspora need to lobby the Cro government to reverse what is a dangerous precedent for the entire region.
Krajina is Croatia.

Kosovo is Serbia.

Suck it up btches.

“A man's character is his fate”

Since: Jun 10

Heraclitus

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#46
Apr 19, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

1

Dalmatino wrote:
Croats and Serbs have bad blood between them and there'll never be any reconciliation, it is what it is. There are elements on both sides that would see the domination of the other by any means, however, both Serbs and Croats are at least agree that there's a place for each other in the region regardless.
The Albanian aspirations for a greater Albania are far more dangerous than any Greater Croatia or Serbia because it sees no place for Slavs and would seek the total annihilation of them.
European nations, in particular the Balkan states, treat diplomatic relations like Eurovision voting - you vote for me and I'll vote for you. Croatians need not have their judgment clouded by poor Croat-Serb relations as sovereignty is a matter of principle, where past and present hostility and unresolved issues mustn't influence such decisions.
Just as a krajina state is unacceptable for Croatia so should be a fake KosovA state. The governments decision to recognise was a counter recognition and one that should be withdrawn. An influential worldwide diaspora need to lobby the Cro government to reverse what is a dangerous precedent for the entire region.
Krajina is Croatia.
Kosovo is Serbia.
Suck it up btches.
100 % truth.

Except seeing Serb-Croat relations as a "bad blood" in generally. I think that is a more subjective question to everyone and depends of that did someone had something bad during the war, or did someone raised in that manner from his parents since the childhood.

For me, i consider Croatian music, film, books.. as a part of my own culture.

Since: Mar 12

Markham, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#47
Apr 19, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

1

Dalmatino wrote:
Croats and Serbs have bad blood between them and there'll never be any reconciliation, it is what it is. There are elements on both sides that would see the domination of the other by any means, however, both Serbs and Croats are at least agree that there's a place for each other in the region regardless.
The Albanian aspirations for a greater Albania are far more dangerous than any Greater Croatia or Serbia because it sees no place for Slavs and would seek the total annihilation of them.
European nations, in particular the Balkan states, treat diplomatic relations like Eurovision voting - you vote for me and I'll vote for you. Croatians need not have their judgment clouded by poor Croat-Serb relations as sovereignty is a matter of principle, where past and present hostility and unresolved issues mustn't influence such decisions.
Just as a krajina state is unacceptable for Croatia so should be a fake KosovA state. The governments decision to recognise was a counter recognition and one that should be withdrawn. An influential worldwide diaspora need to lobby the Cro government to reverse what is a dangerous precedent for the entire region.
Krajina is Croatia.
Kosovo is Serbia.
Suck it up btches.
If NATO or another 3rd party would have intervened sooner, you would have not bad blood between you 2 now. Understand?
Dalmatino

Australia

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#48
Apr 19, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

The_Baron wrote:
<quoted text>
100 % truth.
Except seeing Serb-Croat relations as a "bad blood" in generally. I think that is a more subjective question to everyone and depends of that did someone had something bad during the war, or did someone raised in that manner from his parents since the childhood.
For me, i consider Croatian music, film, books.. as a part of my own culture.
The percentage that perpetrated crimes during wars are relatively small, the fallout however is far greater. You are a reasonable person despite having the same misconceptions about Croats such as radicals like ISP and the majority of the population. I also listen to music and read Serbian writings because of the similarities in culture and language. The difference is that I don't treat it as "those Orthodox Croats being similar to us Catholics".

Parents, the education system, information technology - if one doesn't, the other will.

np, all minor problems, the priority now is to not permit an alien people in the Balkans trade humans and organs, namely Slavs, with their middle eastern brethren and allow large tracts of historical lands to be stolen.
Srpski Radikali

Belgrade, Serbia

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#49
Apr 21, 2013
 
Srpski Radikali

Belgrade, Serbia

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#50
Apr 21, 2013
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Defence_...
&#1047;&#1083;&#10 72;&#1090;&#1085;& #1072; &#1079;&#1086;&#10 88;&#1072;
&#935;&#961;&#965; &#963;&#942; &#913;&#965;&#947; &#942;
blundunt

Midlothian, IL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#51
Apr 21, 2013
 
The unfortunate division between Serbians and Croatians is as unhealthy as it ever was and I feel as though it is a bad and hurtful thing because so much MORE could be accomplished by unity and friendship between us.As long as one group respects the rights of the other-is a starting popint for reconciliation.
Tosk Albanian

Torino, Italy

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52
Apr 24, 2013
 
Dalmatino wrote:
Croats and Serbs have bad blood between them and there'll never be any reconciliation, it is what it is.
The Albanian aspirations for a greater Albania are far more dangerous than any Greater Croatia or Serbia because it sees no place for Slavs
Krajina is Croatia.
Kosovo is Serbia.
Suck it up btches.
'''The Albanian aspirations for a greater Albania are far more dangerous than any Greater Croatia or Serbia because it sees no place for Slavs ''''??? No real eidence for that. All we ahve seen so far is slavs killing each other and other non slavs. WHy you believe in first place that thereis a Greater Albania question, and why you believe such a thing to be more threatening than being under rule of other slavic as serbains , while same time only slavs ahve proven to be buthchers of minorities,?
PS. for ''Suck it up btches.'' does this sum up your IQ?
Tosk Albanian

Torino, Italy

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#53
Apr 24, 2013
 
EurovisionAL wrote:
<quoted text>
It s not true.
Yugoslavians had more access to the West. You mistake people and situations here.
Since my maternal grandfather is Greek from that minority I can assure you that no one could leave Albania during the stalinist communist regime.
P.s. excuse my Chenglish
I didn't say greeks of AL went to Greece during communism. I know they didnt. I said they got help from Greek govt. Help was material thigns sent to ALbania for them. wHY DO YOU ONLY UNDERSTAND mIGRATION as only whay of help. Your english was ok, but the understanding of yours of my english was wrong.
Tosk Albanian

Torino, Italy

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#54
Apr 24, 2013
 
The_Baron wrote:
<quoted text>
So i have to quote your own site ?
"Lapot is the legendary Romanian practice of senicide, which apparently last survived among the Timok Romanians: killing one's parents, or other elderly family members, once they become a financial burden on the family. The term is an archaic Romanian word, rooted in the Latin term lapidus ("stone")"
__________
Do you now where is the Timok region ?
Impartial quote of yours. It also says it was a tradition of some place in western Serbia. And that place even though had Vlachs, the majority were serbians. Are you saying that the ting concerns only vlachs?
PS: I really appreciate you being serious in arguing on details of my posts, such as Lapot. Exchanging info in forums is one of the few ways whe have to see more versions of history in order to end up with objective thoughts, as far as our national histories are not that objective. On this I believe that as ALbanian state didnt kill/invade/expell anyone, has less stuff to justify/hide, so less reasons to distort history, but still, we have to work in some aspects of history.
Then I'd like to notice lapot wasn't the main topic of my posts. Past experience of which nation oppresses, and mostly which nation kills minorities , was the main aim. Then good to know about your versions for the serbian minority in Albania (rather montenegrine, I'd say), btu still no evidence on oppression, and whatever not even a claim that in Albania minorities getexpelled/killed.
Tosk Albanian

Torino, Italy

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#55
Apr 24, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Why I really brought 'Lapot' to the question, well I dodnt make it clear enough, but there a lot of thigns told around (not only lapot and not only albanian versions of things) that average culture of serbians and similiar people in wester Balcans appears to be very cruel (main thing yougoslavian wars n '90-s, events on WWII, then also massive expellings and killings during balcanic wars).

Also, maybe serbians are a rather traumatised nation cos of past events of wars, and might have one more reason than others to be warliek still in 21th century, but fact is that they are so, and it means that os far nationalism and fanatism has f4ked up mentality of a considerable number of people there.

Since: Apr 13

Thessaloníki, Greece

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56
Apr 25, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

european2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you not want change of borders, why Greece splitted from Ottoman Empire? Why South Cyprus splitted from UK? Why you support movement for independent Kurdistan in Turkey?
-Greece needed to be recognized by the Ottomans, which happened.
-"South Cyprus"? I've been looking for it on the atlas but nothing found... If you mean Cyprus, again it's independence was recognised by UK, don't you know that?
-Greece has never officially supported Kurdistan independence issue. Of course in case Turkey causes any armed conflict in the Aegean, Thrace or Cyprus, Greece will have to use Kurdish-Turkish conflict in order to balance powers.

Since: Apr 13

Thessaloníki, Greece

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#57
Apr 25, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Tosk Albanian wrote:
<quoted text>
very smart played! Greeks are definitely a special country among the western countries, neighbour ^^
They say that half knowledge is more dangerous than total ignorance.
Palmerston once said: "We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow."
Each country acts in compliance with it's national interests. So how can you albanians expect Greece to recognise Kosovo unilateral independence given the turkish claims over greek territories (Thrace, Cyprus) and seas (Aegean, Mediterranean)? The same goes for Spain with Catalonian issue, Romania with it's Hungarian minority etc.
It's so naive of you to think that we are just the evil country which hates you to death or that US, UK, France etc love you so much. It's just a matter of interests. Today they save you tomorrow they just don't care. It's been proved many times throughout history.

Since: Mar 12

Markham, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#58
Apr 25, 2013
 

Judged:

3

1

1

enasEllinas wrote:
<quoted text>
They say that half knowledge is more dangerous than total ignorance.
Palmerston once said: "We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow."
Each country acts in compliance with it's national interests. So how can you albanians expect Greece to recognise Kosovo unilateral independence given the turkish claims over greek territories (Thrace, Cyprus) and seas (Aegean, Mediterranean)? The same goes for Spain with Catalonian issue, Romania with it's Hungarian minority etc.
It's so naive of you to think that we are just the evil country which hates you to death or that US, UK, France etc love you so much. It's just a matter of interests. Today they save you tomorrow they just don't care. It's been proved many times throughout history.
Not that naive, no one in the world actually when it comes to Greece. Old story, everyone knows. Don't be naive.
It s so silly and pointless for you to try...again with that horse gift of yours,(this time metaphor of your fake egalitarianism in your above comment), and everyone immediately burns it, with those Greek foxes inside

Since: Apr 13

Thessaloníki, Greece

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#59
Apr 25, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

EurovisionAL wrote:
<quoted text>
Not that naive, no one in the world actually when it comes to Greece. Old story, everyone knows. Don't be naive.
It s so silly and pointless for you to try...again with that horse gift of yours,(this time metaphor of your fake egalitarianism in your above comment), and everyone immediately burns it, with those Greek foxes inside
Your hatred is blinding you. This is abnormal...

Since: Mar 12

Markham, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#60
Apr 25, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

enasEllinas wrote:
<quoted text>
Your hatred is blinding you. This is abnormal...
Quite the contrary, the Japanese army loves everyone

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent Serbia Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Once more on fascism knocking on the Balkan doo... (Aug '09) 14 min Tubal Cain 704
Albania-Kosovo military agreement raises concer... (Jul '13) 1 hr Barbarian 3,197
It's time to recognize Kosovo 2 hr Serbian Pedophile 3
Pope to visit Albania in 21 September 3 hr Bard-Turkish 2
Imam Mahdi - the sick belief of muslims 3 hr Serbian Pedophile 107
Kosovo turns fully 'independent' (Jul '12) 4 hr Kop 65
muslimanke: 5 hr moja-mama 13

Search the Serbia Forum:
•••