Catholics of Bosnia. Are they Croats ?

Created by Jeux on Sep 11, 2013

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No, they are Bosnians

They are Croats

They are just Catholics

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joooosh04

Leicester, UK

#1 Sep 11, 2013
They're called Bosnian croats , but yeah
blimeyme

France

#2 Sep 11, 2013
No they are not, they are bosnian catholics who accepted islam and they are called bosnian herzegovians.
haha

Kursumlija, Serbia

#3 Sep 11, 2013
Huhm. Bosniak theory is that Croats and Serbs never existed untill 1848 when national uprising took part. They were just Catholics of Bosnia of the Slavic Boshnjan shtock. Croatian propaganda gave them the name Croats.
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#4 Sep 11, 2013
haha wrote:
Huhm. Bosniak theory is that Croats and Serbs never existed untill 1848 when national uprising took part. They were just Catholics of Bosnia of the Slavic Boshnjan shtock. Croatian propaganda gave them the name Croats.
True and orthodox were not serbs but of turkic goatfvking stock

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#5 Sep 12, 2013
haha wrote:
Huhm. Bosniak theory is that Croats and Serbs never existed untill 1848 when national uprising took part. They were just Catholics of Bosnia of the Slavic Boshnjan shtock. Croatian propaganda gave them the name Croats.
incorrect

Old Bosnian names-titles for its rulers were Croatian. In central Bosnia were the noble house of Hrvatinic and the old village in east Bosnia called Hrvacici then you also have one of the oldest Croatian capitals from the Middle Ages Duvno Grad/Tomislav Grad mentioned in 753 ad. then you also have the old Croatian capital of Bihac in the 1200s. Also the bosnian rulers used the Croatian title Ban.
haha

Kursumlija, Serbia

#6 Sep 12, 2013
SOKOL OvO wrote:
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incorrect
Old Bosnian names-titles for its rulers were Croatian. In central Bosnia were the noble house of Hrvatinic and the old village in east Bosnia called Hrvacici then you also have one of the oldest Croatian capitals from the Middle Ages Duvno Grad/Tomislav Grad mentioned in 753 ad. then you also have the old Croatian capital of Bihac in the 1200s. Also the bosnian rulers used the Croatian title Ban.
What a heck Bihac. The Turks took Bihac from you, that was never real Bosnia before them. Ban title was not Croatian invention, it was used elsewhere. The name is Avar and Thracian. Hrvacici name ? and what proves that ? You don't mention Travunija, Pagania and Zahumlje.
joooosh04

Leicester, UK

#7 Sep 12, 2013
May I make a suggestion? Wouldn't this question be better suited to being on the Bosnia or Croatia topix? Just saying.
Stern des Sudens

France

#8 Sep 12, 2013
Well, guess not, because obsessed croats and bosnian islamofacists spend far more time on Serb than on their own forums

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#9 Sep 12, 2013
haha wrote:
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What a heck Bihac. The Turks took Bihac from you, that was never real Bosnia before them. Ban title was not Croatian invention, it was used elsewhere. The name is Avar and Thracian. Hrvacici name ? and what proves that ? You don't mention Travunija, Pagania and Zahumlje.
Belgrade was also taken by the Turks but that's not the point. The point is however that Bihac was a Croatian capital. Infact Banja Luka and its soroundings was the heartland of medieval Croatia - Croatian house of Hrvatinic were from that region.

No there is no firm evidence that Ban came from the Avar language - Avars etc used similar words like Bayan etc however the actual word BAN spelled BAN was originally used only by the Croats infact in the Greek texts of DAI approx 950ad it mentions the Croats use the title of Ban for their ruler.As for Travunja Hum etc, In the same text it also mentions Croats settled the medieval Dalmatia=today's Dalmatia Bosnia and Pannonia=Slavonia Zagorje AND Illyricum=Hercegovina Montenegro. Note-This was written in the earlier part of the text before the later version of the history of the Serbs.

Also worth mentioning is the the fact that there are 4 texts that mention the area of Zahumlje-Montenegro as Crvena Hrvatska and 2 texts that mention that Duklja/Montenegro was inhabited by Croats

.Tomas Arhidakon
.Dandalo
.Flavious Blondus
.Pop Duklja

From the Byzantine text of Skyltes "Mihajlo of Duklja rules over those who call themselves Croats"
Further more Mihajlo's clan of Duklja came from the Vistula also known as Bijela Hrvatska

There is no doubt that in the 11 century that Serbia had made tactical advances and influences in Travunja etc however before that time the area was known as Croatian lands to begin with

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#10 Sep 12, 2013
As for Hrvacic

""The dominant ethnic surname among Montenegrins was almost exclusively referring to Croat ancestry (Hrvat, Harvat, Hrvat, Hrvo, Hrvacic, etc. In Sokolovic area near Rudo in Eastern Bosnia lived even in 1932. 10 muslim families with surname Hrvat whose ancestors had emigrated from Montenegro""
http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Bokelji.htm

Wile on the topic of Montenegro -

Montenegrin Link:

Montenegrin Ethnic Association.

Common Montenegrin surnames are Croatian.
Hrvat
Hrvatin
Hrvatic
Hrvovic
Hrvojevic
Horvatin
Horvacevic

http://www.montenegro.org.au/H.html
joooosh04

Leicester, UK

#11 Sep 12, 2013
Stern des Sudens wrote:
Well, guess not, because obsessed croats and bosnian islamofacists spend far more time on Serb than on their own forums
Maybe , because half of the threads on the Serbia forum are about Croatia, Albania and Bosnia. It's clear you guys have nothing better to do then to bitch about them all of the time.

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#12 Sep 12, 2013
Tomislav Grad in Bosnia was the old capital of Croatia infact Serb King Alexander Karadordevic celebrated this by naming his son after Croatian King Tomislav who's city is named after

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#13 Sep 12, 2013
Jajce the medieval capital of Bosnia was founded by Hrvoje Hrvatinic
joooosh04

France

#14 Sep 12, 2013
joooosh04 wrote:
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Maybe , because half of the threads on the Serbia forum are about Croatia, Albania and Bosnia. It's clear you guys have nothing better to do then to bitch about them all of the time.
Wrong usrashe loser. All I see here is: Why are Serbs this, why are Serbs that and s...t, over 90 percent of topics here are created by non Serbs

Serb here only talk about sports and life, and theya re defending their image on the threads which are created by you nazis
Djukka PTPS

Ljubljana, Slovenia

#15 Sep 12, 2013
most of Croatia was also taken by Ottoman Turks
Ravni kotari

Kursumlija, Serbia

#17 Sep 13, 2013
SOKOL OvO wrote:
Common Montenegrin surnames are Croatian.
Hrvat
Hrvatin
Hrvatic
Hrvovic
Hrvojevic
Horvatin
Horvacevic
http://www.montenegro.org.au/H.html
Common Montenegrin surnames ? Is this suppose to be funny or what ? The site is the list of all surnames of Montenegro, including Croatian ones. Croats in Montenegro have about 10.000 people, mostly in Boka Kotorska. You gave us some of their surnames. I am surprised that you don't know that. There you can find Alvanian and Bosniak surnames of Montenegro, as well.
joooosh04

Leicester, UK

#18 Sep 13, 2013
joooosh04 wrote:
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Wrong usrashe loser. All I see here is: Why are Serbs this, why are Serbs that and s...t, over 90 percent of topics here are created by non Serbs
Serb here only talk about sports and life, and theya re defending their image on the threads which are created by you nazis
Hahaha, what is a usrashe? Retard! Why would croats set up anti-croat theads such as 'settlin the NAZI question between Serbs and Croats once and for all','Croatia-Krajina Serbs warriors while Croats ran to austria', Bosnian croats running to Serbs in fear', I very much doubt Croats would write threads like that. You also have that American bitch Paper Lace, a self confessed croat hater who constantly trolls against croats.

Talking just about sports and life? Dude, there is a fckin thread about bloody dinosaurs for godsake.
postivano pucanstvo

France

#19 Sep 13, 2013
let me educate you then, inbred croat peasant immigrant. Usrashe was a name for the pro nazi german nationalist movement in croatia who commited such sick crimes that even croats are ashamed of them. Their leader was ante pavelic the great gay, his homoness, etc. whow as shot by a Serb like a dog. However, usrashe are still present in croatia today in big numbers and they have the power in the government.

Their name comes from verb "usrati se" (To s...t yourself)

There are only 4 or 5 Serb posters here, and 10s of albanian, croat, and bosnian isamofascists posters and all of them create antiserb topics here.
joooosh04

Nottingham, UK

#20 Sep 13, 2013
postivano pucanstvo wrote:
let me educate you then, inbred croat peasant immigrant. Usrashe was a name for the pro nazi german nationalist movement in croatia who commited such sick crimes that even croats are ashamed of them. Their leader was ante pavelic the great gay, his homoness, etc. whow as shot by a Serb like a dog. However, usrashe are still present in croatia today in big numbers and they have the power in the government.
Their name comes from verb "usrati se" (To s...t yourself)
There are only 4 or 5 Serb posters here, and 10s of albanian, croat, and bosnian isamofascists posters and all of them create antiserb topics here.
Soz, ya shitnik ! Trololololol !

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#21 Sep 13, 2013
joooosh04 wrote:
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Maybe , because half of the threads on the Serbia forum are about Croatia, Albania and Bosnia. It's clear you guys have nothing better to do then to bitch about them all of the time.
I'm not taking the Serb side but there are threads about Bosnia because there is a large Serbian population and an autonomous Serbian entity in BiH, about Albania they have a territorial dispute with Kosovo.

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