ZaDupeSpremni

Adelaide, Australia

#193 Dec 9, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
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Finally an admission. No maritime cities or history. I'm ok with pig farms 300km inland supplying pork to Croatian seafaring peoples of Dalmatia.
We'll ask Pupovac to erect a statue in Dalmatia commemorating the serb contribution to the pork industry.
They had fortified villages and small towns same as the Kurvar convert Serbs at that time. You got nothing picko, keep trying. Dubrovnik, Split, Ston, Ragusium, Bar, Dyrrachium, Scutari all Serbian towns in the 9th century. From Pagania all the way to Doclea was Serbian. You are most definantely going to come back with some irrational abuse and sht like,you had that but we...,storm blah blah,serbs something something, anything you can make up in your head. Facts are facts kurvat and theres nothing you can cook up that will change that, ok gargamel?
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#194 Dec 9, 2013
Cities with Croatian Kings, Princes and Dukes but zero zip serbs

http://youtu.be/CTsa_g5eu-E
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#195 Dec 9, 2013
The seven or eight Croat clans in Dalmatia each occupied a certain region, which they subdivided into zupe (counties) ruled by a zupan (ruler or sheriff). The overall ruler of several zupe was the knez ...

http://books.google.com.au/books...
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#196 Dec 9, 2013
Croatian kings

Charlemagne’s Frankish army seized Dalmatia in AD 800, which led to the Christianisation of the Croat rulers in a series of mass baptisms. After Charlemagne’s death in AD 814, the Pannonian Croats revolted unsuccessfully against Frankish rule without the support of the Dalmatian Croats, whose major coastal cities remained under the influence of the Byzantine Empire throughout the 9th century. Even as Dalmatia accepted the political domination of Byzantium, the spread of Christianity encouraged cultural ties with Rome, which proved to be the unifying factor in forging a national identity.

The first ruler to unite Pannonia and Dalmatia was Tomislav, who was crowned in AD 925 and recognised by the pope as king. His territory included virtually all of modern Croatia as well as part of Bosnia and the coast of Montenegro.

By the mid-10th century, the country’s fragile unity was threatened by power struggles in its ruling class. Venice took advantage of the disarray to launch an invasion of Dalmatia at the turn of the 11th century that established its first foothold on the coast.
Kresimir IV (1058–74) regained control over Dalmatia with the help of the papacy, but the kingdom once again descended into anarchy upon his death. The next king, Zvonimir (1075–89), also cemented his authority with the help of the pope, but the independent land he forged did not survive his death.

Za Dom Spremni
=U=
Padre di Dio

Kursumlija, Serbia

#197 Dec 9, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
Croatian kings
Charlemagne’s Frankish army seized Dalmatia in AD 800, which led to the Christianisation of the Croat rulers in a series of mass baptisms. After Charlemagne’s death in AD 814, the Pannonian Croats revolted unsuccessfully against Frankish rule without the support of the Dalmatian Croats, whose major coastal cities remained under the influence of the Byzantine Empire throughout the 9th century. Even as Dalmatia accepted the political domination of Byzantium, the spread of Christianity encouraged cultural ties with Rome, which proved to be the unifying factor in forging a national identity.
The first ruler to unite Pannonia and Dalmatia was Tomislav, who was crowned in AD 925 and recognised by the pope as king. His territory included virtually all of modern Croatia as well as part of Bosnia and the coast of Montenegro.
By the mid-10th century, the country’s fragile unity was threatened by power struggles in its ruling class. Venice took advantage of the disarray to launch an invasion of Dalmatia at the turn of the 11th century that established its first foothold on the coast.
Kresimir IV (1058–74) regained control over Dalmatia with the help of the papacy, but the kingdom once again descended into anarchy upon his death. The next king, Zvonimir (1075–89), also cemented his authority with the help of the pope, but the independent land he forged did not survive his death.
Za Dom Spremni
=U=
Whats with that "U" at the end ??? You are an Ustasa ???????
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#198 Dec 9, 2013
Padre di Dio wrote:
<quoted text>Whats with that "U" at the end ??? You are an Ustasa ???????
You call us Ustasa, so we're Ustasa.

=U=
Dr Milan Sufflay

Frankston, Australia

#199 Dec 10, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
<quoted text>
You call us Ustasa, so we're Ustasa.
=U=
Hey Dalmo at ease, you can relax now Hitler, Mussolini & lap dog Pavelic have been dead for decades
Dr Milan Sufflay

Melbourne, Australia

#200 Dec 10, 2013
Great man Great vision Great achievements Great accomplishments. Who else but : http://youtu.be/zSX8-nN55Rs
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#201 Dec 10, 2013
Dr Milan Sufflay wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Dalmo at ease, you can relax now Hitler, Mussolini & lap dog Pavelic have been dead for decades
No we'll bang on about 'the serbs had to have their fill of Croat blood' Tito instead.

I don't mention Pavelic where as you on the other hand "Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito"
who has also been dead for decades. Now fck off! Haven't you got some serb balls to sck on another thread?
Padre di Dio

Kursumlija, Serbia

#203 Dec 10, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
<quoted text>
You call us Ustasa, so we're Ustasa.
=U=
for Gods sake, don't you feel disgrace to call your self Ustasa Dalmatino ?!
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#204 Dec 10, 2013
Kurvatica wrote:
<quoted text>you have a wild imagination
It's a book boss a book not wiki
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#205 Dec 10, 2013
Padre di Dio wrote:
<quoted text>for Gods sake, don't you feel disgrace to call your self Ustasa Dalmatino ?!
No. Every serb says that we're Ustasa and so now I'm getting used to it.

I could be an Ustasa. I like black shirts, cool daggers and I like to shoot people. I thought about being a Police Officer but chose Ustasa instead, although the Police shoot people more often there's a conflict on interest.

Since: Mar 13

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#206 Dec 10, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
<quoted text>
Finally an admission. No maritime cities or history. I'm ok with pig farms 300km inland supplying pork to Croatian seafaring peoples of Dalmatia.
We'll ask Pupovac to erect a statue in Dalmatia commemorating the serb contribution to the pork industry.
The Croats did not have Croat derived 'maritime cities' in this early medieval period. The sea faring peoples had been the Romanised inhabitants of the Adriatic that created those cities, the latter Venetian Republic a continuation of that tradition. Croats had never been 'sea faring people', mostly inherited enough sea skills from the Latins to be coastal huggers, that's it.

Pointing to modern Croatian cities and playing this denial game about the once Serbian coastal states would be the same as me being in denial to a Bulgarian poster that the early Bulgarian empire at no time encompassed parts of Serbia.

That's my admission.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#207 Dec 10, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
<quoted text>
You call us Ustasa, so we're Ustasa.
=U=
There is no 'us', no 'Croat verse Serb' thing that you like to imagine in your actions, like you are some rallying point lol Fcking lame. No, you are the bona fide Ustasa wannabee all on your lonesome, but don't include other Croats in your idiotic game.
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#208 Dec 10, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>The Croats did not have Croat derived 'maritime cities' in this early medieval period. The sea faring peoples had been the Romanised inhabitants of the Adriatic that created those cities, the latter Venetian Republic a continuation of that tradition. Croats had never been 'sea faring people', mostly inherited enough sea skills from the Latins to be coastal huggers, that's it.

Pointing to modern Croatian cities and playing this denial game about the once Serbian coastal states would be the same as me being in denial to a Bulgarian poster that the early Bulgarian empire at no time encompassed parts of Serbia.

That's my admission.
By now you've seen academic and reliable sources on 'named' Croatian rulers with their seat of power on the Dalmatian Coast including Pagania, Zachlumia, Dioclea etc. such as those above.

Once and for all please name these serb rulers and the 'coastal cities' where they held their seat of power, you're becoming tiresome with this constant skirting around the question at hand.
Dr Milan Sufflay

Australia

#209 Dec 10, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
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No we'll bang on about 'the serbs had to have their fill of Croat blood' Tito instead.
I don't mention Pavelic where as you on the other hand "Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito"
who has also been dead for decades. Now fck off! Haven't you got some serb balls to sck on another thread?
Tito was just admitting the facts that the Serbs were out for blood because of the genocide that was committed against them by pavelic's ustasi regime. no guilt on his part.

You ustasi lovers need to take the burden of responsibility for the fall out that occurred in Bleiburg & 'Krzni Put' as a result of what happened in Jasenovac

Tito unlike Mussolini, Pavelic & Hitler Is Still Alive In The Hearts of Millions World Wide & especially in ex - Yugoslavia

http://youtu.be/mv-PMXRAvpM
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#210 Dec 10, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>There is no 'us', no 'Croat verse Serb' thing that you like to imagine in your actions, like you are some rallying point lol Fcking lame. No, you are the bona fide Ustasa wannabee all on your lonesome, but don't include other Croats in your idiotic game.
Well English Strahd, topix is not serbia nor Croatia. Go to any serbian online news or magazine and read the comments, it's unanimous, all Croats are Ustase.
Even you've made the very same claim.
Hvala i dobro dosli.

What you c0cksmokers would like and hope for is to label every Croat as Ustasa and for it to be a source of shame to us whilst servs praise their Nasi collaborating, German pilot rescuing legion of merit medal winning Chetniks.

Well I'm proud of being an Ustasa and I thank each and every serb for helping me to realise it.

=U=

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#211 Dec 10, 2013
Dalmatino wrote:
<quoted text>
By now you've seen academic and reliable sources on 'named' Croatian rulers with their seat of power on the Dalmatian Coast including Pagania, Zachlumia, Dioclea etc. such as those above.
Once and for all please name these serb rulers and the 'coastal cities' where they held their seat of power, you're becoming tiresome with this constant skirting around the question at hand.
What reliable sources ? Apart from your denials and the abuses directed at individuals I haven't seen anything from you to counter those contemporary Byzantine sources we provided that actually supported the existence of Serb coastal states, namely those you mentioned above.
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#212 Dec 10, 2013
Dr Milan Sufflay wrote:
<quoted text>Tito was just admitting the facts that the Serbs were out for blood because of the genocide that was committed against them by pavelic's ustasi regime. no guilt on his part.

You ustasi lovers need to take the burden of responsibility for the fall out that occurred in Bleiburg & 'Krzni Put' as a result of what happened in Jasenovac

Tito unlike Mussolini, Pavelic & Hitler Is Still Alive In The Hearts of Millions World Wide & especially in ex - Yugoslavia

http://youtu.be/mv-PMXRAvpM
Jasenovac was exaggerated and the chetniks killed far more Muslims and Croats collectively.
Serbian scholar Bogoljub Kocovic proved the numbers to be a myth and his works are still rejected in serbia to this day.

Bogoljub Kocovic stated:

"Very soon it dawned upon me that the major obstacle to my work would be the myths created over four decades about the number of victims, myths by now deeply implanted in the soul of the people of all religions, political beliefs and nationality; myths which, by repetition became a 'reality'. There will be many who will reject my study because it does not conform to their beliefs...Many of them are looking for spiritual food to ignite their hatred of the Croats."

Now fck off serb ball licker and go and count our dead instead of theirs. Leg me know how many you come up with.
Dalmatino

Adelaide, Australia

#213 Dec 10, 2013
Strahd wrote:
<quoted text>What reliable sources ? Apart from your denials and the abuses directed at individuals I haven't seen anything from you to counter those contemporary Byzantine sources we provided that actually supported the existence of Serb coastal states, namely those you mentioned above.
So you've got no names of cities yet?

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