Ancient Samoa History (Summary)

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<quoted text>You are so ignorant and always talking stupid, and it goes to show that you are just plain dumb. Toa said it was in the Samoa Observer, so I believe him. Also, he's probably right that this ie is a more recently named ie and thats why I've never heard of it. But you are always shooting your dumb stink mouth off, and you have no intelligent thing to say, so if you don't have any facts, just shut up because you are just getting more dumb by the minute!
So if it's a recent addition, then it's not authentic. If that's the case, we can then all just make up a name for a tattered raggedy mat and send it off with a great story behind it... pssshhhht... c'mon now! see, new names for mats by you Samoans, new history told of Tui Manua, new different faa samoa every year... what else will you guys renew and then turn around a falsely label it as an ancient custom?? gimme a break..

dumb fat azz project chicks!! lol hahaha
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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>So if it's a recent addition, then it's not authentic. If that's the case, we can then all just make up a name for a tattered raggedy mat and send it off with a great story behind it... pssshhhht... c'mon now! see, new names for mats by you Samoans, new history told of Tui Manua, new different faa samoa every year... what else will you guys renew and then turn around a falsely label it as an ancient custom?? gimme a break..
dumb fat azz project chicks!! lol hahaha
Again, that only solidifies how dumb you are regarding samoan protocols and customs. The Tuiatua Tupua Tamasese Tupuola Taisi Efi is the Tuiatua and also the Tama Aiga Tupua Tamasese, so he has the right to name a IE in his family. He's not going to name a IE everyday for any special occasion that pops up, it was out of respect for Tongan royalty. But then again, you are too dumb to comprehend that!

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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>So if it's a recent addition, then it's not authentic. If that's the case, we can then all just make up a name for a tattered raggedy mat and send it off with a great story behind it... pssshhhht... c'mon now! see, new names for mats by you Samoans, new history told of Tui Manua, new different faa samoa every year... what else will you guys renew and then turn around a falsely label it as an ancient custom?? gimme a break..
dumb fat azz project chicks!! lol hahaha
Are you an idiot or something?? Rhetorical question because we all know you are. Just because something is not 'old' doesn't make it unauthentic. Your like Mitt Romney, making up lies because you have nothing else to stand when it comes to a real argument. And when you run out of lies you reach for the pre-school 'jokes'(don't know why we call them that, I mean aren't jokes meant to be funny after all?? LMAO)

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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>lol@the names of these silly azz mats. quit it already TOA... hahaha
You really love talking about mats and girly possessions, for a guy that's married.. lmao suspect???
PK
For someone who constantly shoots its mouth off and often from the muli...
HOW is it that these IE IGOA...the names are unfamiliar to you??
TOA has correctly divulged the names of these historical mats of actual SAMOAN origin and connection.
These mats were also stated by Queen Salote to be used in the double wedding ceremony(her sons) of Crown Prince Tupouto'a(King Taufa'ahau Tupou IV) and his brother Tuipelehake...

You obviously don't know Jack Shiet. You are a poor excuse for a Tongan and a prime example of an idiot who doesn't know anything about Samoan and Tongan connections/history. You don't even know the story or historical events connected to these mats.

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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>So if it's a recent addition, then it's not authentic. If that's the case, we can then all just make up a name for a tattered raggedy mat and send it off with a great story behind it... pssshhhht... c'mon now! see, new names for mats by you Samoans, new history told of Tui Manua, new different faa samoa every year... what else will you guys renew and then turn around a falsely label it as an ancient custom?? gimme a break..
dumb fat azz project chicks!! lol hahaha
Have mercy on Polly Kinky. She is just trying to solidify her status as the most clueless topix member.
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#299
Oct 20, 2012
 
been good reading up...Thanks everyone makes me realise i need to learn my lineage and pass it to my children.
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#300
Oct 20, 2012
 
Im sitting in my lounge in manurewa south auckland and noticed its saying im in palmerston north?lol

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Nov 9, 2012
 
Ukamea wrote:
oh and more on the bird thingy..what kind of bird did Tuli son of Tangaloa turn into? coming down from the heavens? A dove (Tala)? hmmmmmm
O le ata o TAGALOA O le TULI....another manifestation of Tagaloa is the Messenger....the Golden Plover.
A Dove? Sheesh! You trying to insert christian symbolism here... are we now?lol Never has the Samoan creation or origins mention a dove descending from the sky.

LUPE...there are several species and this word is used for both dove and pigeon...Depending greatly on what you talking about.
In Samoan Lupesina would be the white dove.

WE Samoans know the difference between a dove and golden plover. lol

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#302
Nov 9, 2012
 
so i got the english translation wrong big deal they the same thing we call tala.. Tu'i tongas = talatama (plovers child) tala 'i ha'apepe( plover in ha'a pepe) talakaifaikifolaha( plover eats to folaha) talafapite(plover ??) but you see the pattern. when your history is talking about the plover they talking about our tu'i tongas... we call the pigeon lupe as well

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#303
Nov 9, 2012
 
these names had meaning. so we don't have the exact event but we can estimate with the names to the events....

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Nov 9, 2012
 
Taupoimasina wrote:
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O le ata o TAGALOA O le TULI....another manifestation of Tagaloa is the Messenger....the Golden Plover.
A Dove? Sheesh! You trying to insert christian symbolism here... are we now?lol Never has the Samoan creation or origins mention a dove descending from the sky.
LUPE...there are several species and this word is used for both dove and pigeon...Depending greatly on what you talking about.
In Samoan Lupesina would be the white dove.
WE Samoans know the difference between a dove and golden plover. lol
Taupouimasina

There is no use discussing history with ukamea for he said it himself that he makes up his own version of history funny thing about it is I noticed many of them make up there own version of history such as PINGPING and his 7 Empires etc.....

* Despite solid facts and evidence from various Historians and even there own rulers they still sit there and deny what we say. They lost the debate a long time ago hence now all they are doing is posting hate topix towards Samoans and avoiding History.

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Nov 11, 2012
 
TOA wrote:
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Taupouimasina
There is no use discussing history with ukamea for he said it himself that he makes up his own version of history funny thing about it is I noticed many of them make up there own version of history such as PINGPING and his 7 Empires etc.....
* Despite solid facts and evidence from various Historians and even there own rulers they still sit there and deny what we say. They lost the debate a long time ago hence now all they are doing is posting hate topix towards Samoans and avoiding History.
Thanks TOA...
E moni lava o lau saunoaga. E faigata lava...ona fa'apupula se tasi...pe 'a fa'apea ua tauaso. I do agree that at times it can be quite futile to discuss/debate history especially when individuals are not on the same page...wavelength, understanding, calibre and so forth.
Fa'amalo lava TOA for sharing a wealth of info with the rest of the forum and especially with or regarding, history and culture.
Keep up the great work.

PINGPING and his 7 empires?? LOL! hahahaha auoi se malie 'a tetele!
Ia ua maua fo'i sina pauna ata mo leaso i le susuga lea o PINGPING. hehehe.

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Taupouimasina
There is no use discussing history with ukamea for he said it himself that he makes up his own version of history funny thing about it is I noticed many of them make up there own version of history such as PINGPING and his 7 Empires etc.....
* Despite solid facts and evidence from various Historians and even there own rulers they still sit there and deny what we say. They lost the debate a long time ago hence now all they are doing is posting hate topix towards Samoans and avoiding History.
kind of like how you like to make things up yourself. You know, the Tu'i Manu'a fairytale that you go on about all the time?? LOL

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Nov 11, 2012
 
Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>kind of like how you like to make things up yourself. You know, the Tu'i Manu'a fairytale that you go on about all the time?? LOL
PK

You and Pingping are the same you guys love making up stories without any evidence etc.... I provided more then enough evidence in reference to the Tui Manu'a Empire of Samoa as well as the Samoan Tui Kanokupolu Dynasty that are ruling Tonga today.

* Like I said before you cant handle the truth PK hence you choose to ignore it. It doesn 't take a genious to see all the Samoan Influence in Tonga.

Samoa and its culture is represented in Tonga till this day yet so many Tongans mainly commoners choose to ignore it or deny it while Tongan Royals embrace and honor it.

* When the Tauolunga is performed in Tonga Samoa is being represented.

* When the Ma 'ulu'ulu is performed in Tonga Samoa again is being represented. Otuhaka, Fahaiula and so forth all represent the Samoan culture in Tonga. Tokotoko and Fue held by the talking chiefs of Tonga again represent the Samoan culture in Tonga.

* Kanokupolu - Flesh of Upolu again represents the Samoa etc.... etc.... etc....

This isnt even half of all the Samoan Influence in Tonga.

All these things are so obvious but ignored by people like you who cant accept the truth.

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TOA wrote:
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PK
You and Pingping are the same you guys love making up stories without any evidence etc.... I provided more then enough evidence in reference to the Tui Manu'a Empire of Samoa as well as the Samoan Tui Kanokupolu Dynasty that are ruling Tonga today.
* Like I said before you cant handle the truth PK hence you choose to ignore it. It doesn 't take a genious to see all the Samoan Influence in Tonga.
Samoa and its culture is represented in Tonga till this day yet so many Tongans mainly commoners choose to ignore it or deny it while Tongan Royals embrace and honor it.
* When the Tauolunga is performed in Tonga Samoa is being represented.
* When the Ma 'ulu'ulu is performed in Tonga Samoa again is being represented. Otuhaka, Fahaiula and so forth all represent the Samoan culture in Tonga. Tokotoko and Fue held by the talking chiefs of Tonga again represent the Samoan culture in Tonga.
* Kanokupolu - Flesh of Upolu again represents the Samoa etc.... etc.... etc....
This isnt even half of all the Samoan Influence in Tonga.
All these things are so obvious but ignored by people like you who cant accept the truth.
wrong again... cuz none of the dances you've mentioned are performed in Samoa or even remembered Samoans. Causes me to think, that it just never existed in Samoa. Malo

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Nov 12, 2012
 
Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>wrong again... cuz none of the dances you've mentioned are performed in Samoa or even remembered Samoans. Causes me to think, that it just never existed in Samoa. Malo
Poly King
You and I both know that all of those dances are Samoan dances Tongan traditions even verify all those dances as being of Samoan origin.
You are choosing to deny facts for you cant accept the truth.
* The Ma'ulu'ulu and Taualuga are still practiced in Samoa today etc..... Even the chants to all those dances are in the Samoan language and yet you still deny it.
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Apr 24, 2013
 
well.. I think dat Salamasina was da first tupu tafaifa to hold da 4 papa titles in da history of Samoa...i am juzt grateful dat it waz a female dat holded da papa titles and dis tells da people dat men were nt worthy enough 2 hold da papa titles... Dis is 4 reals
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Apr 26, 2013
 
alice andersen wrote:
well.. I think dat Salamasina was da first tupu tafaifa to hold da 4 papa titles in da history of Samoa...i am juzt grateful dat it waz a female dat holded da papa titles and dis tells da people dat men were nt worthy enough 2 hold da papa titles... Dis is 4 reals
alice you should hold my loupapa bolo title in your mouth chooohoooo
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Apr 26, 2013
 
alice andersen wrote:
well.. I think dat Salamasina was da first tupu tafaifa to hold da 4 papa titles in da history of Samoa...i am juzt grateful dat it waz a female dat holded da papa titles and dis tells da people dat men were nt worthy enough 2 hold da papa titles... Dis is 4 reals
Damn...that's helluva observation there,...sure you're not from 'wondrlnd'?:)
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Apr 26, 2013
 
Sunapo wrote:
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alice you should hold my loupapa bolo title in your mouth chooohoooo
Whoah...what did she say to warrant that 'SUNAPO?' hehehehehe!

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