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Afamasaga

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#267
Jun 7, 2014
 
Emo wrote:
<quoted text>Let it go man.move on the sooner you accept That our Tongan kings are the Ogs of Polynesia the easier you can sleep at night.
Why are you here? Contradictry, and defeats the purpose.
Afamasaga

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#268
Jun 7, 2014
 
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You know you lieing boy
Lol, You wish I was. ;)

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Vice versa toks, I'll agree with henrys list if you agree with collocots method.
It still doesnt evade the facts
* Tagaloa Funefeai father of the Safune in savaii, lived in the late 10th century and conquered most of savaii. Warred with Tui A'ana Fepuleai. A well documented battle.
* Pili divided the districts of samoa upolu to his sons. According to geneologic evidence lived 950-1000ad where him and paao moved to hawaii and extended the mo'okini heiau. Supported by hawaiians.
* Tamalelagi lived in the 1480ad, who had many wives who can vouch for this date. Father of the first T4 Salamasina 15th century which scholars confirm.
* Tui Atua tele flourished in the late 11th century. The first to meet with Tui Tonga Tuitatui. His brother is latuvai. Supported by geneological and the Atuas descendants.
* Ha'amonga o maui, belived to be built in the 12th century by Tuitatui wich coincides with his landing in samoa before this period. According to studies of the haamonga.
* Tupaimatuna who married Lafafaotonga at this period. Supported by the war that took place at manono.
You seem to forget that samoans were in the dark ages too. If you look at the legends of futuna and Uvea, samoans were known to have aso's when each country under its dominion offers up a person for the chiefs to eat. Samoan were well known for headhunting, hence when the europeans landed, they witnessed it that the samoans were. Tuvalu, kirabiti, lalotonga, tonga all say samoa is where the kingship hierarchy system came from.
http://books.google.com/books...
Afa,

U got t right attitude about this whole thing, we simply need to look further into it. Mr. T was right along w t experts, though Samoa has a lot history t time line is difficult to establish. I believe this why experts on t region use t TT line, bcoz it appeared to b so rigid n stratified making it a lot more authentic n transparent, unlike Samoa's ruling lines, coz it was unreliable to t common practice of embellishing or lying about ones history n genealogy.

I m ok w Plil n Pa'ao being around t 10-11th century that would make sense, n as Tu'i Tataui is was well known t Tongan kings had residence in Samoa, n I told that this why in t long absent of t TT in Samoa, there was ceremonies w Tongan reps present to extract t Mana of t TT Tongan front property b4 they can build on it. I thought how cool, but that's further evidence of t TT rule along w t fact that during t TT rule which ended 1450 AD, experts agree, no wars occurred during that time in Samoa, if u have a claim your timeline is off, n u r wrong, coz no disputes this even Samoan oral history indicate that after t TT rule, Samoans lamented n longed for time of peace when t TT was calling t shots.

N though u r sincere, however u r sincerely wrong my friend, n I hate to tell u, Samoans did not practice human sacrifice it was only t Faleaitu who did this n this is further evidence of t dominate Tongan presence in Samoa, coz from TT 'Aho'eitu in Samoa Aso'aitu was t father of Samoa, n it appeared t TT ruled fairly, coz like Siaosi said t natives of t area could have easily out numbered t TT n those who guarded him, but for hundreds of years they were in peace until t TT Talafaiki who was a nazi n was expelled from Samoa n a deal was honored never for Tonga to invade t district of Tumusaga.

However, Samoa was never centralized again, n t TT continued business as usual where they married Tapo'ous n lived n ruled from Samoa as usual. All u have to do, is to look up Nafauna's husband t TT Manu'ia n go backwards to t TT 'Aho'eitu to pinpoint a time frame from there, il have look m really interested now.

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#270
Jun 8, 2014
 
Afamasaga wrote:
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Lol, You wish I was. ;)
c'mon aussie you lieing ican smell it.
Billy

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#271
Jun 9, 2014
 
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Wassup dox, it looks like u've been b c. Sorry, didn't mean to leave this mess for u, but m back thanx for t support, looks like yalz been having some fun, continue, while I iron out a few wrinkles, FHK!!!!
benz stop feeding samoa from western samoa your history their twisting it
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#272
Jun 9, 2014
 
Ofmg your not the chosen people you idiot tagalo was a man from eua island in tonga. he was a godly man cause the fijian king palotu made him a king. And palotu is where dead king of fiji and tonga go to hevean.
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Afamasaga wrote:
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I see, but wheres the part about fiji discovering tonga? I see the fijian influence, just as the samoan influence with the kanokupolu line is solid proof. But wheres the influence before that?
the samoa was slaves this is the real story I am telling you the truth in tonga they see you as slaves do you not understand English your slaves from western samoa they fked your women cause your slaves you will never rule tonga their royal family will only marry fijian tui all over fiji. If a royal married a commoner they lose their tittle the Tongan royal family is very racist we kvt know cause we are tongafisi kvt the Tongan royal family is the same family that rules all of 27 Kingdom of fiji .
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#274
Jun 9, 2014
 
Mr T wrote:
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My man! Hahaha ou te Fiu faitau lou essay ae e te fa'aaogaina upu ou te le malamalama! Malo lava le saunoaga matagofie!
Vili mai si taimi e fai tonu ta Eva ai I tai le taulaga nei weekend. Ua oso mai le fia inu! Hihihihihi ta o ia tafao ma su'e ni au fiti e fia ulavavale hihihi
fia Tama mamafa i luga le internet Tama fiti ae leai ni ake! Hihihi
susu polo we understand what you write down cause fijian and Tongan can understand your language cause we create it tui samoa was fijian and tui tonga was Tongan a hahaha together we are tongafisi hahaha .
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#275
Jun 9, 2014
 
Mr T wrote:
R u gonna "George Turner" me?? Lolol
U know that Samoan legends points to Pulotu as their homeland right? So of course the initial settlers of Samoa would have come from Burotu, Kadavu somewhere in the Lau Group. The Melas who are the Fijians of today are not the same as the Fijians that once lived there. Read Dr Roger Greens paper, u r big boy u can look it up urself ;)
eastern Polynesia look more south American you look like a cross between a bath about mix Chinese burnt toast pahaha. Ask a Maori lol. The eastern Polynesia from tahiti claim fijian and cook islands claim tonga like nuie pahaha most have curly hair your China hair is what maori make fun off lol.

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Billy wrote:
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benz stop feeding samoa from western samoa your history their twisting it
Billy we r amongst t chosen, let's behaved as such!!!!
Mr T

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#277
Jun 9, 2014
 
Thanks Afa for the references.
Tgdz don't bother with Billy, it's impossible to reason with a monkey!
Hihihihi
Afamasaga

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#278
Jun 12, 2014
 
Tgz
Okay, I think the best thing for us to do is agree to disagree. I literally have tonnes of wieght behind my theory and yet I get Lliaus theory in return. I'm all good with you toks but that is no where near correct regarding the dates. I'll end this tommorrow for I have work and been busy. lol
Afamasaga

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#279
Jun 12, 2014
 
Billy wrote:
Ofmg your not the chosen people you idiot tagalo was a man from eua island in tonga. he was a godly man cause the fijian king palotu made him a king. And palotu is where dead king of fiji and tonga go to hevean.
Billy
Okay, I'm all ears when you direct your knowledge on history in a civilized manner, however the only reference to pulotu is in tonga and samoa with the more reliable from the latter.
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#280
Jun 12, 2014
 
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c'mon aussie you lieing ican smell it.
Malo aupito. well end this tommorrow.
Afamasaga

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#281
Jun 12, 2014
 
Mr T wrote:
Thanks Afa for the references.
Tgdz don't bother with Billy, it's impossible to reason with a monkey!
Hihihihi
No worries brother.
jestr

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#282
Jun 12, 2014
 
So, why are Samoans the chosen people?lol
you need Jesus

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#284
Jun 13, 2014
 
Afamasaga wrote:
Its in our blood samoa. We were always the chosen people just like how God chose the jews, Tagaloa chose samoa. From samoa our anceators sailed the vast polynesian seas and colonised many of the isles hence many islands claim descent from our kings.
http://books.google.com.au/books...
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So you put Tagaloa over Christ Jesus? Wow
Afamasaga

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#285
Jun 16, 2014
 
jestr wrote:
So, why are Samoans the chosen people?lol
The meanings was in consideration of other islands myths and legends stating thier chieftom system came from samoa.
Afamasaga

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#286
Jun 16, 2014
 
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So you put Tagaloa over Christ Jesus? Wow
In terms of our ancestors, yes with comfort.
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#287
Jun 16, 2014
 
Afamasaga wrote:
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The meanings was in consideration of other islands myths and legends stating thier chieftom system came from samoa.
and democracy came from Athens. I think the noble teines were chosen to marry Tongan chiefs but I duno about the guys, I dont think they were chosen for anything.

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