SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#61 Jul 6, 2014
http://www.the-scientist.com/...

Before Burley goes on 'bout details of his findings, he clearly states that findings are debatable. Then he goes into evidence of his work to process methods of how he went about his excavate vs other studies in Fiti. As I stated on my last post, the extent of Burleys work only extends to Tonga and Fiti, prematurely, we must not conclude based on the fact that his smoking gun defines end to question at hand.
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#62 Jul 6, 2014
Sorry Benz, my mentioning of Fiti was to the fact that the extent of Burleys work consisted of Tonga and Fiti. Where he got the equation of Nukuleka being first site of arrival would be premature in my opinion due to, unless he conducts study of samoa, then the results or statements would garner ridicule from other scientists or archiologies including myself......"The first stop the Lapita made in Polynesia was the settlement of Nukuleka in the Kingdom of Tonga, but “like anything, there’s a lot of debate about the origins of the Polynesians,” says David Burley, a professor of archaeology at Simon Fraser University in Canada. In particular, the date that the Lapita made landfall on different islands has proved impossible to nail down".

Paragraph was drawn from link above.........
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#63 Jul 6, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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Before t coral having n 8 years variation, carbon dating had a variation of + or - 187 yrs. I just rounded it out to 200, coz it was based on carbon dating n not Ur to Th as w t coral.
Aye Benz, I don't think we(you) can butter these two issues together?! The year span is basically the same if you're basing it on +or- one to two hundred yrs. comparing it to 3000-2800 graph your link states here. As to the latest link which I have referred to concerning nukuleka, I've pointed out Dr. Burleys statement before he continues on with discussion about his findings.
WTF

Auckland, New Zealand

#64 Jul 6, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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Before t coral having n 8 years variation, carbon dating had a variation of + or - 187 yrs. I just rounded it out to 200, coz it was based on carbon dating n not Ur to Th as w t coral.
That would also apply to the Tongan date of 3000-2900 BP. So it would work out the same as anywhere between 0-100 years.
Hardly

Wellington, New Zealand

#65 Jul 7, 2014
Best debate I've read in ages! Malo Lava, tongangodz ma WTF!!!... and a huge cheers to the ref, Searider....yayee!!! cheeeehoooo!important

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#66 Jul 9, 2014
SEARIDER wrote:
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Aye Benz, I don't think we(you) can butter these two issues together?! The year span is basically the same if you're basing it on +or- one to two hundred yrs. comparing it to 3000-2800 graph your link states here. As to the latest link which I have referred to concerning nukuleka, I've pointed out Dr. Burleys statement before he continues on with discussion about his findings.
I see your point, but point is 187 yrs vs. 8, t 8 years variation doesn't give enough years to settle both Tonga n Samoa, which made it finalized t debate in contrast to 187 years in variation which would have allowed plenty of time to settle Tonga n Samoa n may a few more. That's my only point in Burley's coral finding, thanks a lot guys.

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#67 Jul 9, 2014
Hardly wrote:
Best debate I've read in ages! Malo Lava, tongangodz ma WTF!!!... and a huge cheers to the ref, Searider....yayee!!! cheeeehoooo!important
Thanks Hardly, help us out if u have time.
WTF

Auckland, New Zealand

#68 Jul 9, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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I see your point, but point is 187 yrs vs. 8, t 8 years variation doesn't give enough years to settle both Tonga n Samoa, which made it finalized t debate in contrast to 187 years in variation which would have allowed plenty of time to settle Tonga n Samoa n may a few more. That's my only point in Burley's coral finding, thanks a lot guys.
How would you know? They could've settle both Tonga and Samoa within days of eachother for all we know. It's too early to call since that coral testing method hasn't been tested in Samoa.

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#69 Jul 9, 2014
WTF wrote:
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How would you know? They could've settle both Tonga and Samoa within days of eachother for all we know. It's too early to call since that coral testing method hasn't been tested in Samoa.
Now, u r just being whiny n argumentative, get a hold of yourself, Tongans were advanced but they didn't make motor boats fools. Lmaoooooo!!!!
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#70 Jul 9, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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I see your point, but point is 187 yrs vs. 8, t 8 years variation doesn't give enough years to settle both Tonga n Samoa, which made it finalized t debate in contrast to 187 years in variation which would have allowed plenty of time to settle Tonga n Samoa n may a few more. That's my only point in Burley's coral finding, thanks a lot guys.
Hihihihi......the jury is still out until Burley can make it to samoa and analyze coral samples from there. As I've stated, there are two locations which extensively, Burley has conducted testing, FITI AND TONGA! Full stop! We cannot end by assuming Tonga consists of the whole of Polynesia, I know you're not that gullible.

Since: Dec 13

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#71 Jul 10, 2014
SEARIDER wrote:
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Hihihihi......the jury is still out until Burley can make it to samoa and analyze coral samples from there. As I've stated, there are two locations which extensively, Burley has conducted testing, FITI AND TONGA! Full stop! We cannot end by assuming Tonga consists of the whole of Polynesia, I know you're not that gullible.
Well, Sea, t coral just validate that Nukuleka, Tonga is t first settlement in Polynesia, based on archeological evidence. However, strangely, genetic test have indicated t Lapita ppl in Vanuatu r not Polys, but r large bone unlike t Melas in Vanuatu.

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

Below, linguistic evidence support archeological findings in exhibiting t facts that unlike t rest of Melanesia, Lapita ppl in Fiji, Tonga, n Samoa spoke one language w a slight variation in dialect.

However, though we have one language, one culture, n one race, presuming that t Melas were recent immigrants w in 1000 years ago.

http://www.vjf.cnrs.fr/lacito/colloque/diapor...

Below, is t most recent n thorough genetic study done on Ploys, 4700 of them, indicating from mtDNA our maternal ancestry indicating that unlike t Lapita ppl, we came out of t mainland China 10.000 years ago than to SE Asia through Indonesia n than to Melanesia 6-8 thousand years ago.

T scientist explains that t language was absorbed into t Austronesian speaking or Lapita ppl n brought along w them to Polynesia, in my opinion, we mobilized along w t Lapita ppl n up rooted a whole race along w our own language n culture n hauled it out of Vanuatu, leaving behind t pottery n some bones, as we moved in Remote Oceania/Polynesia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/science/08o...

So, I believe u have a point we r near n yet far from bring completely conclusive but as for now we let t experts hard stand until further evidence surfaces. Thanks yeah n enjoy t reads up there is short, but packed w interesting insight to t discussion.
Mr T

Saint Marys, Australia

#72 Jul 10, 2014
God flooded the sinful world and the seeds of Noah, the world was once again populated.

Physical features have changed due to climatising and diet, language has changed due to isolation FULL STOP
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#73 Jul 10, 2014
SEARIDER wrote:
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Hihihihi......the jury is still out until Burley can make it to samoa and analyze coral samples from there. As I've stated, there are two locations which extensively, Burley has conducted testing, FITI AND TONGA! Full stop! We cannot end by assuming Tonga consists of the whole of Polynesia, I know you're not that gullible.
Well, Sea, t coral just validate that Nukuleka, Tonga is t first settlement in Polynesia, based on archeological evidence. However, strangely, genetic test have indicated t Lapita ppl in Vanuatu r not Polys, but r large bone unlike t Melas in Vanuatu.

Here's the thing Benz, the tag of being first settled is misleading! If Burley can make such a claim, then no holds barred as to the claims of some Samoans and other scientist as to labeling Samoa as the "cradle of the pacific" right Benz?

All Burley managed to do was narrow the gap from 200 - 10 years correct? But to label Nukuleka as such is INCOMPLETE right Benz? Because of unfinished work.

We'll conversate later,need to tend to another matters, thanks Benz........

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#74 Jul 25, 2014
SEARIDER wrote:
SEARIDER wrote:
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Hihihihi......the jury is still out until Burley can make it to samoa and analyze coral samples from there. As I've stated, there are two locations which extensively, Burley has conducted testing, FITI AND TONGA! Full stop! We cannot end by assuming Tonga consists of the whole of Polynesia, I know you're not that gullible.
Well, Sea, t coral just validate that Nukuleka, Tonga is t first settlement in Polynesia, based on archeological evidence. However, strangely, genetic test have indicated t Lapita ppl in Vanuatu r not Polys, but r large bone unlike t Melas in Vanuatu.
Here's the thing Benz, the tag of being first settled is misleading! If Burley can make such a claim, then no holds barred as to the claims of some Samoans and other scientist as to labeling Samoa as the "cradle of the pacific" right Benz?
All Burley managed to do was narrow the gap from 200 - 10 years correct? But to label Nukuleka as such is INCOMPLETE right Benz? Because of unfinished work.
We'll conversate later,need to tend to another matters, thanks Benz........
Wow Sea, when u r able to offer up other experts that sees Burley's finding as u do il consider it, but it is pretty bias of u n right down childish to behave so juvenile towards scientific break through.

T only thing INCOMPLETE here is your inability to offer anything to contradict t latest evidence of t coral implicating Nukuleka, Tongatapu as t first settlement of Polynesia. Don't b a sore loser now, if t tables were turned n evidence pointed to Samoa I believe your tune would b different.

As on Nov. 7, 2012 Burley findings had not been challenged n as il stand w t rest of t experts on this matter, thank u. Lololol
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#75 Jul 25, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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Wow Sea, when u r able to offer up other experts that sees Burley's finding as u do il consider it, but it is pretty bias of u n right down childish to behave so juvenile towards scientific break through.
T only thing INCOMPLETE here is your inability to offer anything to contradict t latest evidence of t coral implicating Nukuleka, Tongatapu as t first settlement of Polynesia. Don't b a sore loser now, if t tables were turned n evidence pointed to Samoa I believe your tune would b different.
As on Nov. 7, 2012 Burley findings had not been challenged n as il stand w t rest of t experts on this matter, thank u. Lololol
And when you are able to read between the lines, then maybe you can distinguish bias and unbiased behavior. You're like a horse with blinders on either side and the first sight of favorable information to tip the scales your way, you jump on like a dog in heat??? Again, location where Burleys excavation was distinct;

http://wamc.org/post/dr-david-burley-simon-fr...

The two significant areas Fiji, and then Tonga.......I don't need scientist to tell me that an assumption is final, when Burley's credentials is based on those two culture's. And I certainly can't depend on you when your loyalty for the COMMON FOLKS and your inflated ego.

If this is your perception of trying to SCHOOL someone, I'm not the one brah......you should know me better than that. NOTHING, and I repeat NOTHING...... you have brought to the table is "jaw dropping",(I think Burley said that about his finding,[read up on it! it's in this article] and I know you ain't that Dumb to think I would AGREE on issues you raise to justify your biasness!

Suckers are born everyday, I was born at night!!
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#76 Jul 25, 2014
Read this and read with CLARITY!!!

http://www.the-scientist.com/...

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#78 Jul 25, 2014
SEARIDER wrote:
Read this and read with CLARITY!!!
http://www.the-scientist.com/...
Your lights r on, but nobody's home, lololol.
SEARIDER

Atlanta, GA

#79 Jul 26, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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Your lights r on, but nobody's home, lololol.
What, you need me to hold your hand?hehehehe.....

ANCIENT FILE: Coral tools like this one helped David Burley and his colleagues estimate the date that Tonga was settled by ancient people from Papua New Guinea. Note the back side of the file (bottom), worn down by use.
IMAGE BY CHICHI LAM
About 3,000 years ago, inhabitants of New Guinea set their sights east and headed out to sea, sparking an expansion of humanity across thousands of miles to islands scattered across the South Pacific. Archaeologists have been able to track the migration of these pioneers, a group called the Lapita, by their distinctive pottery. But now, researchers are using advanced chemistry involving the coral tools used by these early explorers to more accurately reconstruct their maritime peregrinations.

The first stop the Lapita made in Polynesia was the settlement of Nukuleka in the Kingdom of Tonga, but “like anything, there’s a lot of debate about the origins of the Polynesians,” says David Burley, a professor of archaeology at use Simon Fraser University in Canada. In particular, the date that the Lapita made landfall on different islands has proved impossible to nail down.

Must I do everything for you Jr.??

Since: Dec 13

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#81 Jul 26, 2014
SEARIDER wrote:
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What, you need me to hold your hand?hehehehe.....
ANCIENT FILE: Coral tools like this one helped David Burley and his colleagues estimate the date that Tonga was settled by ancient people from Papua New Guinea. Note the back side of the file (bottom), worn down by use.
IMAGE BY CHICHI LAM
About 3,000 years ago, inhabitants of New Guinea set their sights east and headed out to sea, sparking an expansion of humanity across thousands of miles to islands scattered across the South Pacific. Archaeologists have been able to track the migration of these pioneers, a group called the Lapita, by their distinctive pottery. But now, researchers are using advanced chemistry involving the coral tools used by these early explorers to more accurately reconstruct their maritime peregrinations.
The first stop the Lapita made in Polynesia was the settlement of Nukuleka in the Kingdom of Tonga, but “like anything, there’s a lot of debate about the origins of the Polynesians,” says David Burley, a professor of archaeology at use Simon Fraser University in Canada. In particular, the date that the Lapita made landfall on different islands has proved impossible to nail down.
Must I do everything for you Jr.??
....hihihi... If u r still in recess n have not gotten t memo t jury has deliberated n t verdict is Nukuleka, Tongatapu is t first settlement of Polynesia. lololol

As for further evidence UNKO case is close my feleni until another major scientific break through, court is adjourned. Good day!!!
bvgftre

Auckland, New Zealand

#82 Jul 26, 2014
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