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Terry

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#22
May 18, 2010
 
Shhh wrote:
In the time of Bruce Lee there was the Samoan Grandmasters:
GRANDMASTER TU'UMAMAO “TINO” TUIOLOSEGA of Limalama (Samoan Martial Arts)
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GRANDMASTER HAUMEA "TINY" LEFITI of Mok Gar Kung Fu!(Zero-Inch punch).
No doubt would have sparred with the Great Bruce Lee! They formed the American-Samoan Martial Art Limalama!
These two are legends amongst the Martial Arts community!
Tino...Grandmaster Tuilosega..THE...founder of the Lima Lama form of self-defense was my sen-sai. He promoted me to Brown-belt and I was allowed to teach his children, in his garage....in Diamond Bar in southern california. Master Tuilosga, Sensei Dan Guzman,and perhaps Ed Parker were THE motivating forces in the martial arts in the 1960..and 1970
Ed Parker at 6'4 and change...Dan Guzman at roughly the same size...and Tino Tuilosega..6'1 were the "force majure" of the "sensei" talent available to the masses of seekers of the "holy-grail" available during this very important advancement of the "ARTS"in the US
Not only were these gentelmen physically large....they contained within them...great disisipline. They also, with their business acumen, managed to maintain "Dojo's"...The sinsai's lised here were....and are....the forefont of martial arts in this country.
if there exixts better examples 0f peoples whom have contributed more to the Americn rialization of True Martial Arts than....Ed Parker....Dan Guzman or Tino Tuilosega.. I defy you to produce it!
Terry Ayers
fprmer student of Dan Guzman and Tino Tuolisega
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Jul 20, 2010
 
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Well Sis, just to add to what was stated previously. I do not know of any king Tuiolosega to be "the last king of all the islands of Samoa," as reputed by the website.
No offense intended to anyone of the Tuiolosega family, as I know some of them.
I dont doubt the authenticity of the genealogy as those are Manu'a names, but I do not agree with the placement of Tuiolosega being the last king of all the Samoan islands.
Just wanted to add that insight.
The "Tuiolosega" title applies primarily to Olosega, and conincidentally is being decided on for the next title holder. However, the title "Tuimanu'a" was last held by Tuimanu'a Elisara and died with him in the early 1900s. If you know your Samoa history, you would know that all creation began with Manua...then, other islands, i.e. savaii, upolu, tutuila, tonga, fiji, followed. Thereafter, "Tui's" or Kings were established so that each island could be governed, ie. "Tuiolosega" (for Olosega), Tuiofu (for Ofu), "Tuitoga" (for Tonga), "Tuifiti" (for Fiji). Thereafter, a king of all kings (or Tui of all Tuis) was created to oversee all of the Tuis. This "supreme" tui was "Tuimanu'a"--who was traditionally viewed as the King of all of Samoa.

So, it's Tuimanu'a, and not "Tuiolosega" who was viewed by traditional Samoans as the kING OF ALL SAMOA. In fact, when Manu'a finally gave in to the US in 1904, under the leadership of the last Tuimanu'a...Tuimanua Elisara...to sign Deed of Cession and to fall under US jurisdiction, which Tuimanua Elisara struggled dearly as he had the foresight to see a better future for the Manucans, under US protection. Yet, the "King of Kings" before he died told everyone that he would die with the title, thus, ending any future title holders for his view was that he would never tolerate the Tuimanu'a title holder to be subject and subservient to a new superpower (US).
Proud

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#24
Jul 21, 2010
 
Manatua o Samoa o le atunu'u ua uma ona tofi, o le fue lavelave, o le i'a e iviivia.

We should always bear in mind e le taofi tutusa le atunu'u. E tofu lava itu eseese o Samoa ma a latou mau.
Martin

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#25
Jan 31, 2011
 
In the early sixties there were two strong men who along with GM Tuiolosega founded the Limalama martial art. Without Sal Esquviel and Richard Nunez, there would not be Limalama today. These men were the backbone to the founding of the organization and style of this new martial art. Today we have lost Master Esquviel, John Lewis and Tiny Lefiti, these men were part of the six men who started Limalama. Limalama was a collaboration of different arts that had an effect on the outcome of Limalama. GM Richard Nunez is still teaching today in Whittier CA., GM Nunez has created a new system called NOKAOI. In Polynesian it means the best. GM Nunez has taken the best of Limalama created with other arts to prepare students for self defense, sport martial arts, weapons and full contact fighting. GM Nunez is the only original Limalama founder who is still teaching today. Visit our web site www.nokaoi-online.com in the fellowship of the arts. You can also view our art on YouTube search Limalama Nokaoi.
Martin

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#26
Feb 9, 2011
 
As in any of the martial arts, without the direct support and loyalty there wouldn't be a style created. In America in 1965 a new martial art was founded by 6 individual men of different martial arts. This new martial art was named Limalama. With Samoan and Polynesian influence it sparked new ideas and thoughts about martial arts. Instead of just training in one art why not train in different ways to defend yourself with boxing, kicking, kung fu, bone breaking Lua. This was the backbone of Limalama, to do something new and experiment with your own abilities. Visit the web site www.nokaoi-online.com and view and hear the history of Limalama from GM Richard Nunez one of the original founders of Limalama.
Duffy

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#27
Mar 20, 2011
 
Tino was not my teacher, he has been my friend since 1973 in Santa Cruz. Hello Adele. Tell him my thoughts are with him still. I last saw Rudy when he a little guy. Looks like he has become a very capable vessel to carry Lima Lama into the future. Seems most people are looking for something other than knowledge in their assoc with you, well I guess thats just human nature. If you and Tino would like to come back to the island, you are more than welcome in my home. Th e weather here is more better. Take care my friend. Most people here on Maui know how to find me.
Piumafua

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#28
Sep 11, 2011
 
Masina wrote:
"...His grandfather Tagaloa Tuiolosega was the last King of all the islands of Samoa before it was divided and American Samoan became part of the U.S. Territory."
Talofa there Shhhhh.....could you please give some more information regarding this "last king" of all the islands of Samoa?
Somehow,that name isnt familiar and it isnt registering.
Let us not promote our selves beyond our status in society. The Tuiolosega is just that "King of Olosega". The title still exists for it never yielded it's sovereignty to Tuimanu'a. So when Tuimanu'a Elisara yielded his authority to the USA, the Tuiolosega was not included. I know the Lima Lama movement promoted the Tuiolosega title (via Tino Tuiolosega) as the King of all of Samoa - which is NOT correct and misinformed. True Tuiolosega is the last surviving title of ancient royal line and one may say "...the last King" but it is not and was never once the King of all Samoa. Having said that, one can also say Tuimanu'a was never the King of all of Samoa - for he was never able to conquer the Tuiolosega, thus Olosega.
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#29
Sep 12, 2011
 
Theres a picture i've seen on line of tui olosega sitting on his boat, cant remember the link came across it by accident. it looked like it was taken late 1800's. He looked similar to the tui manua.
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#30
Sep 12, 2011
 
How can u be the last king when The Manu'a islands fell under the U.S...what kind of fake kingdom are u running....a dream one?bwuahahahahaha....as soon as the U.S. took over.,...the title is just an high chief...
GUD

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#31
Sep 14, 2011
 
lmao nice one Www
Anonymous

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#32
Mar 19, 2013
 
Talofa. I am a descendant of the Tuiolosega family from the village of Olosega, Manua, American Samoa. This is a good discussion, and that's why I am joining to add my insights about what I know and have been told and passed on to my generation from our ancestors about Tuiolosega title. I am from the Tuiolosega Amito'elau clan, which is not the same as the clan which Grandmaster Tino Tuiolosega belongs to. However, I do applaud him for his accomplishments and success. The title "Tuiolosega" literally means "King of Olosega" and as so has the designation equal to Paramount Chief of Olosega. There is no question that the first titleholder had ties to TuiManua because TuiManua was the King of Samoa back then and only he could have made such appointments. Like others, I've never heard of any titleholder in the entire Manua group being referred to having high status and royalty equal to that of TuiManua. He is the only one and his honorific salutation(faalupega) in Samoan is "O le na amo tasi" or The only one who is carried because wherever he travels around the kingdom or island people carried him on their backs because he is the king. TuiManua Elisara was the last king who gave the islands to U.S. protection, and many thanks to him for his wisdom and courage. Since Tokelau was mentioned I feel obligated to share my family's history to clarify the connection between Tokelau and Olosega village in Manua. The island of Olohenga(Tokelau) has close ties to Olosega village of Manua and that's why the names are almost the same. My family history is another proof because my ancestor Tuiolosega Amito'elau emigrated from Tokelau to Olosega, Manua. His father held Tuiolosega title and before he passed he summoned his son from Tokelau to come back to Olosega(Manua) and take care of the family and village affairs. The son returned and accepted his father's last wish, and son's birth name was changed to "Amito'elau" to commemorate this special moment of son being summoned or called from Tokelau (Toelau in Samoan). And he succeeded to the Tuiolosega title and was known as Tuiolosega Amito'elau. I have close family members in my clan who have this same name. I see that poster Masina mentioned family names in Olosega, and I'm related to all of them. Glad she included malae o Talamoa which at times people forget to recognize as it's the ancient sacred field or malae of the Tuiolosega. The sa'oaualuma name mentioned as Taape well it's different in my clan ours known as Luatuanu'u, and if I can remember correctly it's that dividing point between Olosega and Ofu.

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Mar 20, 2013
 
Amazing stype, im gonna use it to beat up some fijians LMAO JK it a JOKE!!!

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Mar 20, 2013
 
Dante wrote:
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The "Tuiolosega" title applies primarily to Olosega, and conincidentally is being decided on for the next title holder. However, the title "Tuimanu'a" was last held by Tuimanu'a Elisara and died with him in the early 1900s. If you know your Samoa history, you would know that all creation began with Manua...then, other islands, i.e. savaii, upolu, tutuila, tonga, fiji, followed. Thereafter, "Tui's" or Kings were established so that each island could be governed, ie. "Tuiolosega" (for Olosega), Tuiofu (for Ofu), "Tuitoga" (for Tonga), "Tuifiti" (for Fiji). Thereafter, a king of all kings (or Tui of all Tuis) was created to oversee all of the Tuis. This "supreme" tui was "Tuimanu'a"--who was traditionally viewed as the King of all of Samoa.
So, it's Tuimanu'a, and not "Tuiolosega" who was viewed by traditional Samoans as the kING OF ALL SAMOA. In fact, when Manu'a finally gave in to the US in 1904, under the leadership of the last Tuimanu'a...Tuimanua Elisara...to sign Deed of Cession and to fall under US jurisdiction, which Tuimanua Elisara struggled dearly as he had the foresight to see a better future for the Manucans, under US protection. Yet, the "King of Kings" before he died told everyone that he would die with the title, thus, ending any future title holders for his view was that he would never tolerate the Tuimanu'a title holder to be subject and subservient to a new superpower (US).
HAHAHA !@#%/$#

If everything began in Samoa, then Tui Manu'a was a PLANT! Maybe a seaweed? We don't know any Tui Manu'a of Samoa, only a Tui Manuka of Fiji. Tui is a Fijian word, it is a FIJIAN concept!! No place in Polynesia uses 'Tui' but Fiji!! Tonga and Samoa have had influences from some kingdoms within Fiji for thousands of years, where Fijian culture and people have integrated into both! Yes, pure Fijians once lived in Samoa and Tonga as new arrivals and have merged with the locals. Merged in both blood and history. Some stories from Samoa and Tonga do align with Fijian oral history, and some do not. This is because the descendants of today and the recent past no longer see the divide of yester years because there wasn't any! If you dad was Fijian and mom was Samoan, both their history and stories become yours! Over time, these overlap... That is whats happening with Samoan history... Their stories are binding, but are misinterpreted, whereby it becomes contradictive and the most part preposterous.

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Mar 20, 2013
 
Ulu Kalo wrote:
Amazing stype, im gonna use it to beat up some fijians LMAO JK it a JOKE!!!
fufu, you have a better chance fighting a coconut tree...lol

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Mar 21, 2013
 
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fufu, you have a better chance fighting a coconut tree...lol
hahaha too funny... malie Bruce Lafa-LEE

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Mar 21, 2013
 
KavaFarmer wrote:
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fufu, you have a better chance fighting a coconut tree...lol
Want a face makeover? Im sure with limalama, i can rearrange your face free of charge lmao haha jokes

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Mar 21, 2013
 
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Want a face makeover? Im sure with limalama, i can rearrange your face free of charge lmao haha jokes
Like I said, you and the Dalai Lama can go fufu a coconut tree together haha

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Mar 21, 2013
 
Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>hahaha too funny... malie Bruce Lafa-LEE
More like Bruce Llama the Tibetan goat haha

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Mar 21, 2013
 
^ Wow that was dry like your knees and elbows lmao

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