Tongan revolution. Your thoughts

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Since: Jul 12

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#1 Jul 30, 2012
I seek people's thought on a Tongan revolution, I feel that the hierarch of Tonga is corrupt and only seeks to feed their hunger for money. Have you noticed the Chinese stores growing in numbers in Tonga? Why do you think that is? Because the "Royal" family seeks profits to support their spending habits. What happened to all the good family owned Tongan stores? I'm also seeing many foreign land owners in my own country! Tongan's are selling land because we're poor and in a struggle everyday. And the royal family still doesn't seek to improve the Tongan workforce. I am sick and tired of watching people struggle in my country because the greed of the royal family. If I had the funds and support of the people, we would lead a revolution in Tonga and establish a new government that the people of tonga have a say in (voting). Why follow what one wants? Please send me your thought.
Poly KING

San Francisco, CA

#2 Jul 30, 2012
TLatu wrote:
I seek people's thought on a Tongan revolution, I feel that the hierarch of Tonga is corrupt and only seeks to feed their hunger for money. Have you noticed the Chinese stores growing in numbers in Tonga? Why do you think that is? Because the "Royal" family seeks profits to support their spending habits. What happened to all the good family owned Tongan stores? I'm also seeing many foreign land owners in my own country! Tongan's are selling land because we're poor and in a struggle everyday. And the royal family still doesn't seek to improve the Tongan workforce. I am sick and tired of watching people struggle in my country because the greed of the royal family. If I had the funds and support of the people, we would lead a revolution in Tonga and establish a new government that the people of tonga have a say in (voting). Why follow what one wants? Please send me your thought.
First of all, Tongans can not sell land! Revolution w/ coconuts... just great... a little overboard. only lazy people, struggle! quit scapegoating, kasele!

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#3 Jul 30, 2012
I know that a revolution can't be fought with coconuts... The plan is to secure the military barracks when the next full scale riot is in motion. If you secure the weapons you have the upper hand on making an assault on the Tongan palace before NZ sends they're troops in. But hey... It's just a thought.
Samuisi

Cerritos, CA

#5 Jul 30, 2012
Dam Latu.. You fareal huh. lolz. Last time i went to Samoa I notice their was a fair amount of Tongans living their.. Now I know why.
Looking at it from outside in.. I dont know if its the Royal family or the commoners that are money hungry. Tonga should look at Samoa for leveled democracy. and I say that with a clean heart. Manuia.

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#6 Jul 30, 2012
Samuisi wrote:
Dam Latu.. You fareal huh. lolz. Last time i went to Samoa I notice their was a fair amount of Tongans living their.. Now I know why.
Looking at it from outside in.. I dont know if its the Royal family or the commoners that are money hungry. Tonga should look at Samoa for leveled democracy. and I say that with a clean heart. Manuia.
It's the royal family... They're so greedy and money hungry, willing to sacrifice the people of Tonga for a pieces of paper. Democracy needs to be established in Tonga, not some corrupt hierarchy. But thank you Samuisi for your thoughts.
hardly

Wellington, New Zealand

#7 Jul 30, 2012
What does this got to do with us???

And even if SAMOA does agree to assist, how exactly can SAMOA help???

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#8 Jul 30, 2012
hardly wrote:
What does this got to do with us???
And even if SAMOA does agree to assist, how exactly can SAMOA help???
I just wanted to get Samoan people's thoughts on it. Of course Samoa wouldn't aid a revolt in Tonga... But it would be nice to get shipments of weapons and supplies for the cause.
Samuisi

Cerritos, CA

#9 Jul 30, 2012
Samoas form of running the government.. Samoa has no monarchy.. Only head of state and parlament.. Tonga should do the same..

P.s. Of course samoa s not gon' help a revolt in tonga.. Thats.. Stupid lolz
hardly

Wellington, New Zealand

#10 Jul 30, 2012
TLatu wrote:
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I just wanted to get Samoan people's thoughts on it. Of course Samoa wouldn't aid a revolt in Tonga... But it would be nice to get shipments of weapons and supplies for the cause.
What you ask is not an easy request. But I cannot ignore it either. As a fellow human being, I feel overwhelming grief for the Tongan people. For centuries your people have laboured under the yolk of the Tongan royals and catered to their every request. And yet as Royals, their job was to protect shelter and provide for their subjects not the other way around, the people providing for the Royals.

I for one would assist you in your quest for democracy.

Viva le revolution.

Since: Nov 08

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#11 Jul 30, 2012
I feel for your plight as well "TLatu" but is the consensus by the majority? If it is then that would be understandable, were I in your shoes I would feel for my people as well but I would try to take into consideration the casualties, and if the casualties would be great I would ask myself, "Is it worth it?" These are but concerns on my part. No insult intended. Much Respect!
hardly

Wellington, New Zealand

#12 Jul 30, 2012
The price for democracy is always high as we have seen in the mid east with the down fall of dictatorships! Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Yemen and currently civil war is ripping Syria apart.

Hopefully, a diplomatic solution can be sort for the sake of all involved as a civil war will divide this race of noble warriors for years to come.

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#13 Jul 30, 2012
hardly wrote:
The price for democracy is always high as we have seen in the mid east with the down fall of dictatorships! Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Yemen and currently civil war is ripping Syria apart.
Hopefully, a diplomatic solution can be sort for the sake of all involved as a civil war will divide this race of noble warriors for years to come.
True, but their countries are vast compared to our own. For us Polynesians we trust our chiefs and elders to find solutions and more times than not the villagers adhere to their decisions if nothing else but to keep the peace. In this case it is a monarchy which is protected by an army and what is requested are firearms to assist in this uprising. For those across the seas losing a loved one in battle is an honor and the deaths of loved ones are met with never ending quests for vengeance. I wouldn't wish that on our own.

I do agree with you "hardly" I also pray that a diplomatic solution can be found, for the sake of future generations to come. Much Love and Respect!

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#14 Jul 30, 2012
alofa777 wrote:
I feel for your plight as well "TLatu" but is the consensus by the majority? If it is then that would be understandable, were I in your shoes I would feel for my people as well but I would try to take into consideration the casualties, and if the casualties would be great I would ask myself, "Is it worth it?" These are but concerns on my part. No insult intended. Much Respect!
I have taken into consideration of mass casualties of war on the streets, but the outcome would be glorious if we succeeded on establishing a democratic government. Money has made the current Tongan government corrupt and they aren't suffering, my people are. I'm tired of seeing children hungry or people looking for work when there isn't any. Many thanks for everyone's comments.

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#15 Jul 30, 2012
It tears me to pieces when I think of how many parents are struggling to feed their children in Tonga. If I had to lay my life on the line for the cause, I would. Because even though I died, I knew I died for a good reason.

Since: Nov 11

Auckland, New Zealand

#16 Jul 30, 2012
Bloodshed for the sake of democracy doesn't seem worth it to me. Especially when Tonga is already on its way becoming more democratic anyway. My advice is to keep waiting. Theres been a lot of change in Tonga and more change will come. Who died in the riots a few years ago? Thats right, innocent people.

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#17 Jul 30, 2012
Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, Tongans can not sell land! Revolution w/ coconuts... just great... a little overboard. only lazy people, struggle! quit scapegoating, kasele!
Amen, Borther.

Look at this guys follow up post, this guy plays too much Call of Duty Modern Warfare i think. LOL

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#18 Jul 30, 2012
Tagata Folau O le Vasa wrote:
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Amen, Borther.
Look at this guys follow up post, this guy plays too much Call of Duty Modern Warfare i think. LOL
I don't play games, I stay focused on my school and work. I don't have time for video games or stupidity. This is real and if you think what is going on in Tonga is somewhat funny to you, then you really have no heart.

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#19 Jul 31, 2012
TLatu wrote:
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I don't play games, I stay focused on my school and work. I don't have time for video games or stupidity. This is real and if you think what is going on in Tonga is somewhat funny to you, then you really have no heart.
You are stupid. You plan to capture military bases with what? keyboards..

HAHAHA!!
i understand that your people suffer under your inbred heads of state but war will never solve the problem, it only piles it up.

But your right on one thing Tonga will riot against the Royals but i think Samoans should have no say in it. But we Samoans should support tongans in certain issues as long as it is in the benefit of the people.

Theres a reason why Tonga has an army and its not to protect the people.
Poly KING

San Francisco, CA

#20 Aug 1, 2012
Tagata Folau O le Vasa wrote:
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You are stupid. You plan to capture military bases with what? keyboards..
HAHAHA!!
i understand that your people suffer under your inbred heads of state but war will never solve the problem, it only piles it up.
But your right on one thing Tonga will riot against the Royals but i think Samoans should have no say in it. But we Samoans should support tongans in certain issues as long as it is in the benefit of the people.
Theres a reason why Tonga has an army and its not to protect the people.
you're such a clueless dumbazz! LOL
Tompingpong

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#21 Aug 25, 2012
TLatu wrote:
I seek people's thought on a Tongan revolution, I feel that the hierarch of Tonga is corrupt and only seeks to feed their hunger for money. Have you noticed the Chinese stores growing in numbers in Tonga? Why do you think that is? Because the "Royal" family seeks profits to support their spending habits. What happened to all the good family owned Tongan stores? I'm also seeing many foreign land owners in my own country! Tongan's are selling land because we're poor and in a struggle everyday. And the royal family still doesn't seek to improve the Tongan workforce. I am sick and tired of watching people struggle in my country because the greed of the royal family. If I had the funds and support of the people, we would lead a revolution in Tonga and establish a new government that the people of tonga have a say in (voting). Why follow what one wants? Please send me your thought.
This is what happens when the slaves rise up against thier masters fisi. Tonga needs to be a stable and great kingdom like fiji, i think its time fisi take back Tonga from the slaves and rebuild the fisi kingdom, they foolishly handed to the mokeys of Tonga.

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