A coming of age in Tonga a " a Samoan view

Feb 26, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Scoop

There's a buzz in the kingdom of Tonga these days. Come August, landmark electoral reforms will be implemented and most likely, the first ever democratically-elected government will take office.

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Benz2000

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Oct 7, 2013
 
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POLICE have released photos of the infamous runaway stardusty GJ Sasa Koala.
http://funnyanimal4u.blogspot.com/2011/11/fun...
These photos were taken by surveillance cameras as the underground koala hip hop artist was resting whilst on the run. Police are still asking the public for any news of the superfly-lice koala bear.
Much better photos than t leiti old hags on t King of t Seas thread. Never looked better Susu.

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#72
Oct 7, 2013
 
LOL! The article was too funny! Either the author of this piece is a self-hating sole' or he was paid handsomely for this farce of journalism.

But, congratulations Tonga for somewhat catching up to the rest of the world. I say somewhat because i'm still skeptical about the whole 'King' appointed nobles to counsel bit, since he's supposedly conceding his power. So it's not entirely a democratic election being ran by THE PEOPLE.

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Oct 7, 2013
 
After reading more about the recent developments of the Tongan monarchy giving chance to a democratic Tonga, the more fishy and diabolical it's starting to appear. It's a money grab people! The king owns ALL the land? Foreign investors are flocking in by the boatload? Forbes magazine lists Tonga as one of the most corrupt countries consecutively?

It sickens me really! A wise man once said "absolute power, corrupts absolutely" and we are seeing it unfold in Tonga. This is the 'soft screw' the monarchy is employing on its' people. They're saying, "here's the power, you're going to bring about change in Tonga", while they secretly make backroom deals with foreign hogs all to fatten their frocks.

The king knew times were changing and civil unrest was very real i.e. protests, rioting. So, he's decided to cut his losses by moving towards democracy while keeping all entitlements amassed as king. WTF?! Common Tongan folk don't stand to gain anything, but a job in the retail and service sector.

I hope Tongans read my post and are genuinely disgusted at what is happening. Cause in essence, if he owns ALL of Tonga, what's to say the next development he has in mind runs right on top of your family's land?

Keep in mind that this is just a rant, but dammit if there aint't something chilling about all this.

Stay strong Tonga, specifically the common folk!
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After reading more about the recent developments of the Tongan monarchy giving chance to a democratic Tonga, the more fishy and diabolical it's starting to appear. It's a money grab people! The king owns ALL the land? Foreign investors are flocking in by the boatload? Forbes magazine lists Tonga as one of the most corrupt countries consecutively?
It sickens me really! A wise man once said "absolute power, corrupts absolutely" and we are seeing it unfold in Tonga. This is the 'soft screw' the monarchy is employing on its' people. They're saying, "here's the power, you're going to bring about change in Tonga", while they secretly make backroom deals with foreign hogs all to fatten their frocks.
The king knew times were changing and civil unrest was very real i.e. protests, rioting. So, he's decided to cut his losses by moving towards democracy while keeping all entitlements amassed as king. WTF?! Common Tongan folk don't stand to gain anything, but a job in the retail and service sector.
I hope Tongans read my post and are genuinely disgusted at what is happening. Cause in essence, if he owns ALL of Tonga, what's to say the next development he has in mind runs right on top of your family's land?
Keep in mind that this is just a rant, but dammit if there aint't something chilling about all this.
Stay strong Tonga, specifically the common folk!
Well, Well, Madam Naked, t only thing common about Tongans is our disdain for cowards. We have had a supreme ruler since we left Fiji n cradled Polynesia, 3000 years ago. If u showed real concern fine, but don't patronize us as if u give a rats ars about our lil atoll or t people of Tonga. Many things have been said, about our lil nation, good n bad,however, at least we can say we never yield control of our national destiny to any foreign powers. Though we r conscious of t various factors that is with holding progress, we r moving towards a middle ground. We know that change is immenent, n though we might b somewhat rigid, we r hopeful. T only thing chilling about u r rant is that u sound a llil ike Gus, l hope u r not his wife, playin t Samoan forum...dam...idiot.
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again toga's ruling imaginary places lol.......wizard of oz maybe ? haha

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Oct 14, 2013
 
Oh Benz,

How I've missed you! My ill-informed, ethnocentric, yet patriotic friend. I really do admire your pride but it's a tad naive, wouldn't you say? My rant was never to target the good people of Tonga, only the royals and nobles. The crazy thing is that I was late with the information...a little over three years late! LOL! But what's sad is that it rings true today, more than it did just three years ago.

Here's a scathing article about the status of democracy in Tonga now. It might be a little harsh but is necessary to show the plight of common Tongans: http://www.michaelfield.org/tonga%20democracy...

Good God man! I'm not here to attack you or your countrymen at all, so stop with the irate chatter already.

One thing I despise in this world is the abuse of power, especially when it goes unchecked and the wielders of that power is unworthy.

I don't know this Gus character but it sounds like he's given you a proper tea-bagging as well. LOL!

Anyways my good, tok! Your making a little sense these days, not much, but enough for me to say 'howdy'!

Peace brother and may Tonga build and Prosper!

Sincerely,

Somewhere_Naked (A quasi-Tongan)
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Oh Benz,
How I've missed you! My ill-informed, ethnocentric, yet patriotic friend. I really do admire your pride but it's a tad naive, wouldn't you say? My rant was never to target the good people of Tonga, only the royals and nobles. The crazy thing is that I was late with the information...a little over three years late! LOL! But what's sad is that it rings true today, more than it did just three years ago.
Here's a scathing article about the status of democracy in Tonga now. It might be a little harsh but is necessary to show the plight of common Tongans: http://www.michaelfield.org/tonga%20democracy...
Good God man! I'm not here to attack you or your countrymen at all, so stop with the irate chatter already.
One thing I despise in this world is the abuse of power, especially when it goes unchecked and the wielders of that power is unworthy.
I don't know this Gus character but it sounds like he's given you a proper tea-bagging as well. LOL!
Anyways my good, tok! Your making a little sense these days, not much, but enough for me to say 'howdy'!
Peace brother and may Tonga build and Prosper!
Sincerely,
Somewhere_Naked (A quasi-Tongan)
Love ur name! I thought mine is the best until I saw urs!!!! We have something in common.. Great Parents !!! LOL..jks

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Love ur name! I thought mine is the best until I saw urs!!!! We have something in common.. Great Parents !!! LOL..jks
Appreciate the love from down-under and definitely much kudoz for great parents...or at least they tried their best! LOL!

Howdy from the 'Dirty South', Ezy!
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Appreciate the love from down-under and definitely much kudoz for great parents...or at least they tried their best! LOL!
Howdy from the 'Dirty South', Ezy!
LOL..yes we r blessed with great parents cos they gave us great names!lol
Geeee Somewhere_Naked from Dirty South n Ezy from Down Under!hahahaha! Indeed we r super Blessed!!!hahaha
Sorry to be off topic! Thought u needed alil break!!lol! Better leave u to it! Take care now!!!
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LOL..yes we r blessed with great parents cos they gave us great names!lol
Geeee Somewhere_Naked from Dirty South n Ezy from Down Under!hahahaha! Indeed we r super Blessed!!!hahaha
Sorry to be off topic! Thought u needed alil break!!lol! Better leave u to it! Take care now!!!
Hi there Sis, thanks for stopping by, u r good distraction....but t Naked one is a lil dirty, just t way l like it....hihi..lol.

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LOL..yes we r blessed with great parents cos they gave us great names!lol
Geeee Somewhere_Naked from Dirty South n Ezy from Down Under!hahahaha! Indeed we r super Blessed!!!hahaha
Sorry to be off topic! Thought u needed alil break!!lol! Better leave u to it! Take care now!!!
Malo,

Well would you look at that, we make quite a duo. Teehee! And yes, it is a much needed break from being a jerk! LOL! It feels good just to say 'hi' to someone, off-topic or not. Anyways, have a great day!
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Hi there Sis, thanks for stopping by, u r good distraction....but t Naked one is a lil dirty, just t way l like it....hihi..lol.
Hey Ben!!! I'm glad I'm a "good" distraction !!!ol
I better be!hahaha!!! But don't get too dirty without me!!!jks! Have a nice day!!!
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Oct 15, 2013
 
to my simo cowards show some balls n take back your land from these pale fork toungues ,show my nigguh obamy wat u r made off ,n wipe simoland clean of palagi mosquitos show us u r not cowards by standin up to da crackerheads n demand your sovereignity,bunch of pathetic cowards,simoland fo simos only don't dat sound refreshin
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Malo,
Well would you look at that, we make quite a duo. Teehee! And yes, it is a much needed break from being a jerk! LOL! It feels good just to say 'hi' to someone, off-topic or not. Anyways, have a great day!
Good morning from the land down under!!!
Have a great day too!!!
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to my simo cowards show some balls n take back your land from these pale fork toungues ,show my nigguh obamy wat u r made off ,n wipe simoland clean of palagi mosquitos show us u r not cowards by standin up to da crackerheads n demand your sovereignity,bunch of pathetic cowards,simoland fo simos only don't dat sound refreshin
Yes, Uiha, refreshing just, like a cold beer on a summer night w Ezy on my right...hihi...but sovereignty for t Simo, is like t dinosaurs..hihi..lol...extinct . But thanks for caring enough to tell them t truth.
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Malo,
Well would you look at that, we make quite a duo. Teehee! And yes, it is a much needed break from being a jerk! LOL! It feels good just to say 'hi' to someone, off-topic or not. Anyways, have a great day!
WASUP Naked, l hope it is not hot n sticky out in t dirty, it makes for a beast of a day, down south.

For once we agree on something, u do exhaust too much energy on being a jerk, my lil narcissistic lil friend. Now, u call me ethnocentric, when this very thread is the epitome of your attempt in clever labeling. Don't mistaken my arrogance for my convictions, outside of my love for my heritage, l do have a great respect for everything Pacific.

U r concern for t welfare of t common people of Tonga, is puzzling, it is some what tainted w n undertone of degradation, which, is expected from soles w hidden agendas. Which what caught my attention to these forums, so thanks for t info. n concern, uz send ny regards to Gus n uz too have a great life...hihi...lol..stop by anytime.. Madam Naked..lol...n keep up t good work. Since u guys have had more experience w t Chinese what is u r opinion on t matter.

I don't share t same insecurities that many foster about there presences in Tonga, for l know immigrants fuel every economy, but a careful balance must b achieved.
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Now we're talking Benz my man! I can't really speak for Samoans in Samoa in regards to the large presence of Chinese folks, but I would figure there to be some mixed feelings.

There's been horror stories about the mistreatment of Chinese people by Samoans, as well as by their fellow Chinese. But, there's also been plenty evidence of a nice harmonious cohabitation.

I think Samoa faces very much the same challenges as all islands in the South Pacific, in that the indigenous people are trying to keep their culture and land intact while dealing with the influx of people coming from mainland Asia. Between India and China, it's impossible to keep out 2.5 billion people...even a fraction of that!

Ultimately, a lot of the folks migrating from Asia are just trying to find some piece of heaven, and what better place than Tonga or Samoa, or Fiji for that matter. Here's a beautiful line I lifted off of Lady Liberty herself! LOL! Just something that I feel sums up a great nation.

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

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Now we're talking Benz my man! I can't really speak for Samoans in Samoa in regards to the large presence of Chinese folks, but I would figure there to be some mixed feelings.
There's been horror stories about the mistreatment of Chinese people by Samoans, as well as by their fellow Chinese. But, there's also been plenty evidence of a nice harmonious cohabitation.
I think Samoa faces very much the same challenges as all islands in the South Pacific, in that the indigenous people are trying to keep their culture and land intact while dealing with the influx of people coming from mainland Asia. Between India and China, it's impossible to keep out 2.5 billion people...even a fraction of that!
Ultimately, a lot of the folks migrating from Asia are just trying to find some piece of heaven, and what better place than Tonga or Samoa, or Fiji for that matter. Here's a beautiful line I lifted off of Lady Liberty herself! LOL! Just something that I feel sums up a great nation.
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Pretty profound for a clown, l two have hopes that t Chinese presences will be a solution for t already delicate moral of a financially crippled Tongan economy. Many question why there presence is so pronounce in Tonga lately, but from t dialogue l hear amongst my folks n their friends, they seem to think it is not strange, t Chinese n Tonga has had a long history of interaction n unlike any other western relations.

Much like many other nations l believe that t Chinese have t fore sight to invest in a possible growing Tongan economy, l am of course being cenacle n in no way being prophetic, however, if rumors are true, that Tonga's gold is estimated to b bigger than t atoll itself, is indeed inside China at some bank, than we know why t Chinese r in Tonga, they have a need for t gold to stay there...lol..it is a conspiracy theory, after all that is where Tupou V died..otherwise we will belly up n need a bail out from Obamay...hihi..lol.

Take it ezy n thanks for t feed back Naked..y'all b good now, u hear.
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Hey Ben!!! I'm glad I'm a "good" distraction !!!ol
I better be!hahaha!!! But don't get too dirty without me!!!jks! Have a nice day!!!
Don't worry Ezy, l,don't kiss n tell, but lbelieve there's....hihi...enough dirt to around..lol.
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Don't worry Ezy, l,don't kiss n tell, but lbelieve there's....hihi...enough dirt to around..lol.
LOL..good to know Ben!!hahaha

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