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Since: Oct 09

Apia, Samoa

#473 Feb 19, 2013
It wasnt a war.. Lol it was more like tonga ambushed.. I mean.. They and there niccas from blackanesia.. Id rather look like a samoan slave.. Than a black lookin tongan lol..

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Since: Apr 09

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#474 Feb 19, 2013
hingofua wrote:
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Can we say Samoan royals are Tongan? Lmfao Siko our history contained intermarriage that's why Samoa and Tonga are related so Don't forget Samoan royals have Tonga blood in them! Dumb Samoans yet AGAIN trying to mke something of themselves. Slaves! Kiss my feet SLAVES LMFAO
did you forget tongan royals do not marry commoners?....

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#475 Feb 19, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
It wasnt a war.. Lol it was more like tonga ambushed.. I mean.. They and there niccas from blackanesia.. Id rather look like a samoan slave.. Than a black lookin tongan lol..
I'd rather be a black king then a yellow slave hahaha
hardly

Wellington, New Zealand

#476 Feb 19, 2013
hingofua wrote:
If Samoans claim Tongan language to be theirs, why can we understand Samoan better than they can understand Tongan? Lmbo Tonga is Tonga you Samoans get ya bloody arses to the Present and stop trying to look into history & make something of yourselves EVERY ONE knows Tonga ruled Samoa for 500+ yrs and Samoans were slaves and are still SLAVES to their embarrassing past. Let's help free our Samoans brothersandsisters from their Slave Mentality! Yeah??? ;))
lol. No we don't claim the Tongan language is ours. All we're stating is that Tonga has 3 dialects:

Tongan Royals -(similar to Samoan)
Tongan Nobles -(similar to Tokelau)
Tongan commoners -(mixture of fijian/solomon/vanuatu)
Hence why we can't understand your gunigugu/gollywog commoner lingo.

lol @ "...get your arses in the PRESENT and stop trying to look into history & make something of yourselves..." in one breathe, then reverts back to Samoa being slaves for 500 yrs?!? lol. What a silly twot u are. lol.
hardly

Wellington, New Zealand

#477 Feb 19, 2013
KavaFarmer wrote:
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I'd rather be a black king then a yellow slave hahaha
pity coz you're both! LOL.
Shameuk

Arlington, TX

#478 Apr 7, 2013
Umm

Are you guys? The word Haamoa, means Samoa...you just tricked yourself into saying that Tonga was once part of Samoa. The word tonga means south or lowlands, which is centered around Samoa.

The title name of Hawaii is the same way, using the "h" in replace of the "s", named after Savai'i of Samoa. This letter and sound switch, which moves into a different dialect is normal in Polynesia, and traces to the orator dialects of Samoa.

The Tongan royal language is a Samoan dialect, and the monarch itself is a royal line from Samoa, which was appointed by Tongans, which then in effect revolted against Samoa, claiming a new individual throne and identity. This is not surprising considering that in Samoa, there are many aristocratic houses playing casually at political influence between provinces.

the Tui Viti is a reactive monarch family line that was appointed in trust for political relations, and to address Tui Manu"a of Samoa.
uiha

Berkeley, CA

#479 Apr 8, 2013
Shameuk wrote:
Umm
Are you guys? The word Haamoa, means Samoa...you just tricked yourself into saying that Tonga was once part of Samoa. The word tonga means south or lowlands, which is centered around Samoa.
The title name of Hawaii is the same way, using the "h" in replace of the "s", named after Savai'i of Samoa. This letter and sound switch, which moves into a different dialect is normal in Polynesia, and traces to the orator dialects of Samoa.
The Tongan royal language is a Samoan dialect, and the monarch itself is a royal line from Samoa, which was appointed by Tongans, which then in effect revolted against Samoa, claiming a new individual throne and identity. This is not surprising considering that in Samoa, there are many aristocratic houses playing casually at political influence between provinces.
the Tui Viti is a reactive monarch family line that was appointed in trust for political relations, and to address Tui Manu"a of Samoa.
the ha'amoa is Tongan word for The Clan Of Moa,Moa is a Tongan name ,Moa was a great warlord with noble blood from the islands of Ha'apai in the heart of Tonga ,he knew it will be futile to fight for the crown so he set sail towards the North n invaded and conquered what is now Ha'amoa,n when Moa n his clan n warriors came upon these islands the inhabitants were pilipino lookin in appearance ,and after a few short years of inserting a fakatonga breeding program ,the samoan people were then created through Tongan and asian pilipino blood n we can still see traces of that asian look on some samoans today, n the samoan dialect is a mixture of pilipino n Tongan sort like the pigeon language the hawaiians use with english language,it's english but with a hawaiian twist,like samoan lang.it's Tongan with a pilipino twist,so now u know your heritage,be proud of it
pnut

Hamilton, New Zealand

#480 Apr 13, 2013
uiha wrote:
<quoted text>the ha'amoa is Tongan word for The Clan Of Moa,Moa is a Tongan name ,Moa was a great warlord with noble blood from the islands of Ha'apai in the heart of Tonga ,he knew it will be futile to fight for the crown so he set sail towards the North n invaded and conquered what is now Ha'amoa,n when Moa n his clan n warriors came upon these islands the inhabitants were pilipino lookin in appearance ,and after a few short years of inserting a fakatonga breeding program ,the samoan people were then created through Tongan and asian pilipino blood n we can still see traces of that asian look on some samoans today, n the samoan dialect is a mixture of pilipino n Tongan sort like the pigeon language the hawaiians use with english language,it's english but with a hawaiian twist,like samoan lang.it's Tongan with a pilipino twist,so now u know your heritage,be proud of it
What a load of crock.
FuaPolo

United States

#481 May 21, 2013
uiha wrote:
<quoted text>the ha'amoa is Tongan word for The Clan Of Moa,Moa is a Tongan name ,Moa was a great warlord with noble blood from the islands of Ha'apai in the heart of Tonga ,he knew it will be futile to fight for the crown so he set sail towards the North n invaded and conquered what is now Ha'amoa,n when Moa n his clan n warriors came upon these islands the inhabitants were pilipino lookin in appearance ,and after a few short years of inserting a fakatonga breeding program ,the samoan people were then created through Tongan and asian pilipino blood n we can still see traces of that asian look on some samoans today, n the samoan dialect is a mixture of pilipino n Tongan sort like the pigeon language the hawaiians use with english language,it's english but with a hawaiian twist,like samoan lang.it's Tongan with a pilipino twist,so now u know your heritage,be proud of it
Since da beginning of human conquest, one thing has always remained true. A nation dat is oppressed/enslaved consistently for a prolonged period of time will always show dramatic change in language, culture, form of political governance & etc. Indellible marks ingrained by da conquerer.
If Samoa had truly been enslaved then why are there no Tongan influences besides a pile of rocks ?? No Tongan language, no Tongan culture. But it is strange dat the opposite exist in Tonga, with various Samoan influence. Just something to ponder !!
FuaPolo

United States

#483 May 21, 2013
FuaPolo wrote:
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Since da beginning of human conquest, one thing has always remained true. A nation dat is oppressed/enslaved consistently for a prolonged period of time will always show dramatic change in language, culture, form of political governance & etc. Indellible marks ingrained by da conquerer.
If Samoa had truly been enslaved then why are there no Tongan influences besides a pile of rocks ?? No Tongan language, no Tongan culture. But it is strange dat the opposite exist in Tonga, with various Samoan influence. Just something to ponder !!
Example - Spain conquers da Mayans & most of South America. Note, those areas speak Spanish. French is widely spoken in da so called "French Polynesia" & of course Samoan is spoken only within the royal circle. So in actuality, who really ruled who??
684renegade

Columbus, GA

#484 May 23, 2013
FuaPolo wrote:
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Example - Spain conquers da Mayans & most of South America. Note, those areas speak Spanish. French is widely spoken in da so called "French Polynesia" & of course Samoan is spoken only within the royal circle. So in actuality, who really ruled who??
Each of your comments have been spot on, IMO. Fcking uiha/polyqeer is so desparate,...she'll make up any of' bullsheit to make an argument,...but we know better! Malo.

Since: Jun 14

Orange, CA

#485 Jun 6, 2014
Toa, do you know the tongan connection through the Pulepule from Sololo. My great great great and so on... grandfather Tupolesava was a Pulepule. I've always heard of our connection to Tonga but not sure exatly how.

Also, hoping you may know some history on this as well. There's a story that long ago my great great.. and so on grandfather was in a vaa and ended up in Tonga. He was a tall man built and very handsome(lol). A Tongan chief/royal was told of this man that was washed ashore. The Tongan chief/royal took a liking to him and said if he would help him and lead his man in a war he would give his daughter Elisiva's hand in marriage. Puniaea succseeded and the cheif/royal married the two and as a gift named and Island in Tonga after his my great great... grandfathers homeland Ofu, in Samoa. Later Elisiva passed away and Puniaea took all the kids back to Ofu, Samoa. We still are not sure who the Elisiva lady is or the family she comes from. It had to been in the early 1700's.

Any info would help. Thank you so much!

Since: Jun 14

Orange, CA

#486 Jun 6, 2014
Sorry man! There was not time to proof read as I was on my phone.
upolu samoa

Tauranga, New Zealand

#487 Jul 16, 2014
Fijians talk too much. But forgetting that Samoa ruled parts of Fiji and made them run in to the forest.Samoa could of ruled all of Fiji but didn't because they felt sorry for there asses.lol war of Samoa and Fiji. Fijians waiting in the south and Samoa showed up at north of Fiji then fijians heard the Samoans coming from the north then Fijian warriors ran to the north to fight the Samoans and lost then they retreated and ran to the forest and lost again then retreated to the village. Then the Samoan king got bored and said to take down the hole village so that the Fijians wont run again and so they did and the Fijian warriors got demolished and at the end no Fijian warriors. Survived in the village. Sad but true

Since: May 13

Liverpool, Australia

#488 Jul 16, 2014
upolu samoa wrote:
Fijians talk too much. But forgetting that Samoa ruled parts of Fiji and made them run in to the forest.Samoa could of ruled all of Fiji but didn't because they felt sorry for there asses.lol war of Samoa and Fiji. Fijians waiting in the south and Samoa showed up at north of Fiji then fijians heard the Samoans coming from the north then Fijian warriors ran to the north to fight the Samoans and lost then they retreated and ran to the forest and lost again then retreated to the village. Then the Samoan king got bored and said to take down the hole village so that the Fijians wont run again and so they did and the Fijian warriors got demolished and at the end no Fijian warriors. Survived in the village. Sad but true
BAHAHAHA!!! gotte love those Samoan fairytales aye
Paki smelly

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#489 Jul 17, 2014
upolu samoa wrote:
Fijians talk too much. But forgetting that Samoa ruled parts of Fiji and made them run in to the forest.Samoa could of ruled all of Fiji but didn't because they felt sorry for there asses.lol war of Samoa and Fiji. Fijians waiting in the south and Samoa showed up at north of Fiji then fijians heard the Samoans coming from the north then Fijian warriors ran to the north to fight the Samoans and lost then they retreated and ran to the forest and lost again then retreated to the village. Then the Samoan king got bored and said to take down the hole village so that the Fijians wont run again and so they did and the Fijian warriors got demolished and at the end no Fijian warriors. Survived in the village. Sad but true
Tui Samoa was a Fijian we ruled you we the 1 st people with a empire and you where praying to me like gods submit to me fool to much fairy tale fix your buses .
Paki smelly

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#490 Jul 17, 2014
Fijian_Warrior wrote:
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BAHAHAHA!!! gotte love those Samoan fairytales aye
western Samoa =10 islands lol
Fiji over 350 and 800 smaller islanders lol always king of our back yard we took over most islands the proves we are 10 times more powerful then fairy tales.
plus western Samoa stole our tattoo our svia dance from Rotuma and our pigs and pots and weapons lol oh oh not forgetting our warships.
Luscious

United States

#491 Aug 3, 2014
Leauanae wrote:
Toa, do you know the tongan connection through the Pulepule from Sololo. My great great great and so on... grandfather Tupolesava was a Pulepule. I've always heard of our connection to Tonga but not sure exatly how.
Also, hoping you may know some history on this as well. There's a story that long ago my great great.. and so on grandfather was in a vaa and ended up in Tonga. He was a tall man built and very handsome(lol). A Tongan chief/royal was told of this man that was washed ashore. The Tongan chief/royal took a liking to him and said if he would help him and lead his man in a war he would give his daughter Elisiva's hand in marriage. Puniaea succseeded and the cheif/royal married the two and as a gift named and Island in Tonga after his my great great... grandfathers homeland Ofu, in Samoa. Later Elisiva passed away and Puniaea took all the kids back to Ofu, Samoa. We still are not sure who the Elisiva lady is or the family she comes from. It had to been in the early 1700's.
Any info would help. Thank you so much!
Sounds like Ofu in Vava'u...Elisiva is a family name passed on thru generations on my mothers side. She may have been a relative.
Luscious

United States

#492 Aug 3, 2014
TOA wrote:
Some more interesting stuff:
It was not only Tui Kanokupolu Salote Tupou who knew of her Samoan Lineage but Tui Kanokupolu George Taufaahau Tupou 1 also addressed his Samoan Origins.
TONGA, JANUARY 6TH, 1843.
* I George, having just returned from Samoa, think proper to inform you of the reason of my voyage there, and the cause of my interfering with the people of Samoa. The relationship of Tonga and Samoa people has been of old. From thence (Samoa) sprang our progenitors, the governing families of Tonga, as the family of Tui Tonga and Tui Kanokupolu.
What I dont get is why Tongans seem so clueless of the Samoan origins of there rulers?
They are clueless because they are commoners. I know it because it is my bloodline....it is my family history. I have no reason to boast about any one race...I am a descendant of Tui Tonga Havea Hikule'o of the Tu'i Ha'a Ngana clan which Queen Salote and Tupou IV sprung from. I have 2 Fale Fisi bloodlines which also connects me to Samoa's only female Malietoa Taiaopo and her son Tuilaepa Tui Atua,...and my mothers Tui Tonga fefine Sinaitakala who married a Fijian King Tui Lakemba....we are the fahus of the Tui Kanokupolu and it is our eldest daughters that are ranked higher than the royals. The Tamaha,...amyways all 3 royal bloodlines flows thru me. I look more Samoan than Tongan...I have more of the Fijian physique like a female warrior and I am lighter skinned like a Tongan and Samoan.
Samoan language is beautiful and melodic...Tongan Monarchy is cunning and smart enough to outsmart their larger enemies...Fiji Islands are more beautiful and much bigger...I can be racist against the dark skin and features of the Fijians because its the truth. I can be disappointed at the present day reputation Samoans put out to the world inbeing lazy and how Tongans compete with each other over stupid things....but I realize you are all my people and I need to accept it. If Tongans and Samoans could only realize you are brothers split apart thru time and distance. Tongans wandered around and visited lands to one side which included Fiji...Uvea and Futuna...RaroTonga...Niue...et c. While Samoa went towards Tahiti..Hawaii..Rapa Nui...
Tonga infiltrated Fiji and they took over the Lau Islands simply with their cunning manipulations using their looks and charms. Fijians in the Lauan Islands speak Tongan and they look better than the real pure Fijians.
Do not be led into fighting a battle that does not belong to you.....You have no right to argue over a battle that is already won and it did not involve your ancestors....
I never realized why my father raised us seperate from the commoners until I was old enough to understand. He didnt want his children to act like them because We ARE NOT of their sort. We rise above them because WE KNOW BETTER.
POLY LOVE II THE FULLEST....DON'T HATE!!!
jestr

Tonga

#493 Aug 3, 2014
Luscious wrote:
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They are clueless because they are commoners. I know it because it is my bloodline....it is my family history. I have no reason to boast about any one race...I am a descendant of Tui Tonga Havea Hikule'o of the Tu'i Ha'a Ngana clan which Queen Salote and Tupou IV sprung from. I have 2 Fale Fisi bloodlines which also connects me to Samoa's only female Malietoa Taiaopo and her son Tuilaepa Tui Atua,...and my mothers Tui Tonga fefine Sinaitakala who married a Fijian King Tui Lakemba....we are the fahus of the Tui Kanokupolu and it is our eldest daughters that are ranked higher than the royals. The Tamaha,...amyways all 3 royal bloodlines flows thru me. I look more Samoan than Tongan...I have more of the Fijian physique like a female warrior and I am lighter skinned like a Tongan and Samoan.
Samoan language is beautiful and melodic...Tongan Monarchy is cunning and smart enough to outsmart their larger enemies...Fiji Islands are more beautiful and much bigger...I can be racist against the dark skin and features of the Fijians because its the truth. I can be disappointed at the present day reputation Samoans put out to the world inbeing lazy and how Tongans compete with each other over stupid things....but I realize you are all my people and I need to accept it. If Tongans and Samoans could only realize you are brothers split apart thru time and distance. Tongans wandered around and visited lands to one side which included Fiji...Uvea and Futuna...RaroTonga...Niue...et c. While Samoa went towards Tahiti..Hawaii..Rapa Nui...
Tonga infiltrated Fiji and they took over the Lau Islands simply with their cunning manipulations using their looks and charms. Fijians in the Lauan Islands speak Tongan and they look better than the real pure Fijians.
Do not be led into fighting a battle that does not belong to you.....You have no right to argue over a battle that is already won and it did not involve your ancestors....
I never realized why my father raised us seperate from the commoners until I was old enough to understand. He didnt want his children to act like them because We ARE NOT of their sort. We rise above them because WE KNOW BETTER.
POLY LOVE II THE FULLEST....DON'T HATE!!!
That was beautiful Luscious, thanks for sharing.

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