Tui Kanokupolu Salote Tupou - (The Samoan Origin Of Her Lineage)

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@TOA....

..do you want me to get a white man to write my fananga into a book like tuimanua empire,before you consider it true?? Sole,where did Moa come from?The sky?

*Long story short!!!Tangaloa had two sonz,One ruled Tonga..the other ruled samoa.. se soia son.......

Tangaloa wasn't a fckn alien that descended from the clouds!!!At least my fananga is more realistic!!

just tell me where Moa and his people came from in your samoan fananga?Coz my family fananga sayz youse came from Tonga...and i'm not changing it for no-one...your first rulers came from Tonga!!Tuimanua and his ancestors came from Tonga.. Tonga,Tonga,Tonga...

*I kept asking what is the connection between Tonga and samoa??No-one answered,now listen again feipe..you're descendant of one bro,and i the other...understand!!!... Its the royal famz that connectz one Island to another,not me and you..

All poly people realize, Tonga and samoa rulers started from two brothers,and their father was Tangaloa... we first settled Tonga,Tangaloa Made Fiji his residence,after that Moa and his family,attendants etc moved to samoa...the rest is history....

*I told you people before,don't exclude Fiji out of the picture...as my fananga states and i'm telling you Tangaloa lived in Fiji... instead of repeating mahinaz fananga,try connecting minez hehe fia scholar e le ola....

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<quoted text>i too learning a lot..smirks..all the fijians doing on here r actin like the primates they r
LOL!

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<quoted text>great observation
Actually, it's NOT a great observation.
Just like your comment...it is faulty and filled with pulusiki. lol

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sorry i mean Samoan slave chick ahahaha
too late! YOU said.... "Fijian slave chicks"
In fact, you have had A LOT of posts that had a lot of Freudian slips like this....hahahaha.
You try to pass yourself off as a tongan fijian but yet, in alot of your numerous posts, you have made the same mistakes...
hehehehe it is so telling.

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Thanks for the respectful reply! I was expecting the usual unleashing of a fiery fury in written form hahaha.

Alright, lets get things straight first up. Everyone here agrees that majority of the history that revolves around this small triangle where Melanesia and Polynesia's chemical atomic collision is fizzling, is not recorded in written form.
And the minute amount of information that has been collated have had gaps that was bridged using assumptions and theories! Do we agree on this? And adding to that, much of the information that is available in books are predominantly taken from Samoan sources by people who obviously collected them from specific individuals!

Now, to clarify your claims again as I have said to you countless times... There is no recollection of any confrontations with the man Tui Manu'a from Samoa or any Samoan war 'campaign' anywhere in Fiji! In light of this, one must understand that Fiji is an extremely ancient place, any event as such would have been remembered right down to the names of the warriors! But we simply do not! The only way Fiji was made known to places in the Pacific was through our presence in their midst! It would have to be a Fijian who bore the name Fitiaumua, whom you are identifying!

Now, to your other misguided conclusion about Tui Lautala. You stated, he was the most powerful warrior in Fiji who decided to venture into Samoa. That is a lie Mr. Toa. Tui Lautala was a young man who inherited his rank from his father. If you are from Taveuni, you will know that the title Tui Laucala was ended when the holder was assassinated, and his family was hunted to extinction. This may have made Tui Lautala a nomad like some Fijian chiefs who were known to have roamed the ocean for the hell of it... Much like the Tui Nayau, who roamed throughout Fiji, Tonga and Samoa with his army just for the hell of it!

Now, as Tui Lautala was staying in Tonga, he met a young woman who was already married to a Samoan chief. The woman fled with Tui Lautala for a while but later was taken back by her Samoan husband without his knowledge. A case of cat and mouse. He then sailed to Samoa to find and retrieve the Tongan woman whom he loved. That was how he began his feud in Samoa, which eventually grew out of proportion! It was all over a Tongan woman... Nothing to do with being an arrogant warrior who saw Samoa as the next stage to immortality as you've eloquently put it hahaha.

Funny how you are now denying the story about the Fijians that tracked down a fleeing Samoan chief all the way to Hawaii, when we had a long discussion about the matter with Fola o le vasa quite some time ago.

I guess its just too hard to accept what Fijians did, especially when we are Melanesians...by which in your eyes are incapable of achieving such historic feats and asserting such authority in a Polynesia when our skin color is dark!:) Yes, Fijians are not your normal dark skin human that you see on TV or on the streets... We are the meanest, roughest, most hidden, and the scariest people to have walked this planet! You say you are descendants of gods, we say we came on canoes and became gods. Yes I admit, we even ate human RAW out of anger and sheer prowess! You just have to understand that we are not as proud as you, because we have experienced heaven and hell, and thats why we are a humble people today.

Like a ghost, we are present everywhere in the Pacific, and like a ghost, our records are secret!
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KAva Farmer
It seems your Tongan Side is starting to talk for you now lol you are starting to sound more and more like these TONGANS on here who make up so many different stories with no evidence or sources to support there claims for example:
1) UIHA and his TUI FAI FAI supreme Tongan sperm made up stories.
2) PINGPING and his 7 EMPIRES of Fiji made up story whats funny is if we get him angry enough his 7 Empires jumps to 13 Empires lol and for some odd reason he seems to think we are all Toga/Fisi and originated from INDIA and are ARYANS at the same time???????(WTF) lol
3)* challenge at all, they are only good at sports! War aint a game, its an occupation!
MY REPLY: Funny you say that when it is stated that Tui Manu'a conquered parts of Fiji and his his efforts of warfare earned him the name FITIAUMUA or the most superior Warrior in Fiji it was found out, that the powerful Fijian Armies and her allies were in heavy losses and could not match the SAMOAN WARRIOR Fitiaumua in any battles of his conquest of there land.
* Tui Lautala one of Fiji's most feared warrior was said to have never lost a battle in Fiji but that came to an end in SAMOA. He messed up when he decided to fight one of the Tupa'i brothers of Samoa all over a TONGAN PRINCESS which lead him to travel to Samoa and wage war which eventually lead to his defeat.
* Tui Feai aka Tui Samoa (SAMOAN/FIJIAN) this Chief's father was Tui Fiti and his mother was the sister of Malietoa. To cut a long story short Tui Feai was known for his cruel and fierce ways. Malietoa sent Tui Feai to Tutuila to become a Chief there as time went on Malietoafaiga, ordered cannibalism abolished in Samoa. Tuifeai did not heed the Malietoa's order which lead to his downfall. Lutu and Solosolo of Lufilufi volunteered to sail to Tutuila and slay Tuifeai, upholding Malietoa's decree to end cannibalism. Tui Feai and his warriors in Tutuila were then defeated by Lutu, Solosolo and there Warriors.
* Solosolo was bestowed the Paramount Chief title of Unutoa. Lutu retained the name Lutu in Fagatogo. Solosolo's kava cup name in Lufilufi, when ever he decides to visit, is Moetoto (slept bloody).
Great Warriors of Fiji and Tonga seemed to always meet there match in Samoa.
n u the wannabe toa make up a tui manure with an empire that never existed to anybody's knowledge n sayin that Tonga never enslaved simoya for 585 years,when it is written in the history books,then u tryin to claim that our royals is simoyan ,n Tu'i Tonga n most of our nobles is simoyan,when in fact u all Tongan originals n the only simos that came to Tonga were brought as slaves,why would an island take in foreigners like simos to live in Tonga as u say ,when land is scarce ,u da the one that is false evaluatin your pathetic history n u monkees envy our history of a great and paramount empire that stretched far n wide ,n also our great heritage of a monarchial,n noble,n proud n independant people,is it because u nigguhs r oppressed by baaarrraaaccck obama ,n by the germans ,n the Tongans fo 585 years n the Fijians fo 300 years
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Thats over a 1000 years under foreign rule

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TUNA, FATA, ULUMASUI, TAPULOA OF ALEIPATA are all fijian names you dumb ape their names of fijian warlords ahahaahah no wonder they came back with fijian chicks lamooo.
Your STUPIDITY...again precedes your IGNORANCE.
These are not fijian names. Most importantly, they were SAMOANS.

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Uiha wrote:
Thats over a 1000 years under foreign rule
hahaha...more wishful thinking and pipe dreams from a.... kupaipa.

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<quoted text>n u the wannabe toa make up a tui manure with an empire that never existed to anybody's knowledge n sayin that Tonga never enslaved simoya for 585 years,when it is written in the history books,then u tryin to claim that our royals is simoyan ,n Tu'i Tonga n most of our nobles is simoyan,when in fact u all Tongan originals n the only simos that came to Tonga were brought as slaves,why would an island take in foreigners like simos to live in Tonga as u say ,when land is scarce ,u da the one that is false evaluatin your pathetic history n u monkees envy our history of a great and paramount empire that stretched far n wide ,n also our great heritage of a monarchial,n noble,n proud n independant people,is it because u nigguhs r oppressed by baaarrraaaccck obama ,n by the germans ,n the Tongans fo 585 years n the Fijians fo 300 years
Sorry Bud....
Whether you like it or not TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA existed and is in our oral tradition...
Tongan tradition regarding the rise...or emergence of the so called "Aho'eitu", is said... was in response as a refusal to provide the yearly tribute inati...umiti for the TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA...
Fiti'aumua was Samoan Fijian and of the Tagaloa family.
Our oral traditions, through prose,song,...those from Manu'a, and includes Upolu and Savai'i...mention him, mentions places that he traversed to bring war to the islands....that also includes Safulusao in Toga.....
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@TOA....
..do you want me to get a white man to write my fananga into a book like tuimanua empire,before you consider it true?? Sole,where did Moa come from?The sky?
*Long story short!!!Tangaloa had two sonz,One ruled Tonga..the other ruled samoa.. se soia son.......
Tangaloa wasn't a fckn alien that descended from the clouds!!!At least my fananga is more realistic!!
just tell me where Moa and his people came from in your samoan fananga?Coz my family fananga sayz youse came from Tonga...and i'm not changing it for no-one...your first rulers came from Tonga!!Tuimanua and his ancestors came from Tonga.. Tonga,Tonga,Tonga...
*I kept asking what is the connection between Tonga and samoa??No-one answered,now listen again feipe..you're descendant of one bro,and i the other...understand!!!... Its the royal famz that connectz one Island to another,not me and you..
All poly people realize, Tonga and samoa rulers started from two brothers,and their father was Tangaloa... we first settled Tonga,Tangaloa Made Fiji his residence,after that Moa and his family,attendants etc moved to samoa...the rest is history....
*I told you people before,don't exclude Fiji out of the picture...as my fananga states and i'm telling you Tangaloa lived in Fiji... instead of repeating mahinaz fananga,try connecting minez hehe fia scholar e le ola....
Nice and creative made up story...keep trying!
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Sorry Bud....
Whether you like it or not TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA existed and is in our oral tradition...
Tongan tradition regarding the rise...or emergence of the so called "Aho'eitu", is said... was in response as a refusal to provide the yearly tribute inati...umiti for the TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA...
Fiti'aumua was Samoan Fijian and of the Tagaloa family.
Our oral traditions, through prose,song,...those from Manu'a, and includes Upolu and Savai'i...mention him, mentions places that he traversed to bring war to the islands....that also includes Safulusao in Toga.....
first toa n his fanangas now u with a character that is straight out of a comic book n expect us to believe ,if what u say is true than simoyan had fijian influences n kavafarmer was right that simoya was ruled by fiji for 300 years n Tonga ruled for 585 years,n germany ruled u nigguhs fo 150 years n barrraaack obama for 140,that adds up to 1175 years of foreign rule over simoya ,daaannnggg u all jussa straight muts in simoya
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Taupoimasina wrote:
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Sorry Bud....
Whether you like it or not TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA existed and is in our oral tradition...
Tongan tradition regarding the rise...or emergence of the so called "Aho'eitu", is said... was in response as a refusal to provide the yearly tribute inati...umiti for the TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA...
Fiti'aumua was Samoan Fijian and of the Tagaloa family.
Our oral traditions, through prose,song,...those from Manu'a, and includes Upolu and Savai'i...mention him, mentions places that he traversed to bring war to the islands....that also includes Safulusao in Toga.....
Whether you like it or not Fiti'aumua wasn't samoan!!! Fitiaumua was a Togafiti..
no tribute,only umisi for Tu'itongaz Tenga to hoka their taupou daughters hehehe.. Fitiaumua is during the Togafiti period!!Tongatapu has never been invaded,as for the invasion of Safulusao?there's an Island there where its filled with fijian gravez...you'll find your invaders there lol.. also Tongans,so lets just say Fitiaumua used his Togafiti aiga...but it didn't work on Tonga.... tuimanua ruled samoa only...not Tonga nor Fiji...
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Nice and creative made up story...keep trying!
Are you gonna give me a pusa pisupo and elegi for being a good story-teller?!I don't need to try,Your first rulers that brought law and order were Tongan warlords... Tonga and samoa were led by two brothers...their father was Tangaloa!!He wasn't a god,he was the King that steered our people to the pacific...now tell me where you people came from???coz the only one i've heard descending from the sky was jesus...after he was crucified!!...and Tangaloa and Mauiz dayz was way before that...so tell me what i'm pepelo about??Let me say it again,samoa was settled by Tongan colonistzzzzz.... enlighten me with your samoan fananga where you came from??Don't tell me you fell off the sky or you grew out of maggots....which is it??Unless you're direct descendants of satan...when he was chucked down from heaven??? hehe haha lol...

*I don't need to prove nothing,just trying to let youse know Tonga and samoa started with two brothers...now you know the connection between Tonga and samoa... you people keep saying,Tonga and samoa are the same people...yet youse have no specific reason why???LMAOOO LOL.... what?Are we related coz we are brown??ahahaaaa lmaoo lol se valea!!! My fananga changes for no-one,just be grateful i gave youse a sample of the real story!!!

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Whether you like it or not Fiti'aumua wasn't samoan!!! Fitiaumua was a Togafiti..
no tribute,only umisi for Tu'itongaz Tenga to hoka their taupou daughters hehehe.. Fitiaumua is during the Togafiti period!!Tongatapu has never been invaded,as for the invasion of Safulusao?there's an Island there where its filled with fijian gravez...you'll find your invaders there lol.. also Tongans,so lets just say Fitiaumua used his Togafiti aiga...but it didn't work on Tonga.... tuimanua ruled samoa only...not Tonga nor Fiji...
Actually, you dirt eating maggots have been keeping your arses busy denying his TUIMANU'A FITIAUMUA'S existence and then come back with all your "tongafisi" shiet. too funny! Fiti'aumua is from MANU'A...not Tonga or Fiti. Your sorry arses wanna claim him as your own or having anything to do with y'all...when there has been DENIAL from the get go...and your pathetic and uneducated and lo'ielo fanangas and who knows what other fairytales you all going to throw into the mix. HAHAHA!
TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA of MANU'ATELE ma SAMOA'ATOA....was Samoan Fijian. Learn to deal with it dear. If you cant...too bad, then just cry me a river. LOL!

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I guess its just too hard to accept what Fijians did, especially when we are Melanesians...by which in your eyes are incapable of achieving such historic feats and asserting such authority in a Polynesia when our skin color is dark!:) Yes, Fijians are not your normal dark skin human that you see on TV or on the streets... We are the meanest, roughest, most hidden, and the scariest people to have walked this planet! You say you are descendants of gods, we say we came on canoes and became gods. Yes I admit, we even ate human RAW out of anger and sheer prowess! You just have to understand that we are not as proud as you, because we have experienced heaven and hell, and thats why we are a humble people today.
Like a ghost, we are present everywhere in the Pacific, and like a ghost, our records are secret!
hahaha....a wee bit melodramatic. Hmmmm....sounds like pride and ego talking...hahahaha your records are secret..hahahaha se strop it! that is what one would say if they don't have anything else to say or add. LMAO!
I am a great fan of and actually love horror and ghost stories.
Have any good ones to tell? lol
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Actually, you dirt eating maggots have been keeping your arses busy denying his TUIMANU'A FITIAUMUA'S existence and then come back with all your "tongafisi" shiet. too funny! Fiti'aumua is from MANU'A...not Tonga or Fiti. Your sorry arses wanna claim him as your own or having anything to do with y'all...when there has been DENIAL from the get go...and your pathetic and uneducated and lo'ielo fanangas and who knows what other fairytales you all going to throw into the mix. HAHAHA!
TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA of MANU'ATELE ma SAMOA'ATOA....was Samoan Fijian. Learn to deal with it dear. If you cant...too bad, then just cry me a river. LOL!
Kava can have Fitiaumua if he likez..my point is Tuimanua and his ancestors came from Tonga!!!So which is it?Youse came from heaven or maggots??You need to realize Fitiaumua was a foreigner,that settled in manua...his kids would've been samoan/fijian...not him!!Cry me a river that Fitiaumua wasn't a samoan hahaha lol

*I have never denied the existence of Tuimanua,but he didn't have an empire...is what i'm saying!!!

*My fananga is just as valid as Tuimanua... You samoanz came from Tonga...period!! It's either my story,or Kavafarmer is your daddy lmao hehe

se aua le ika...want some fa'ausi LOL....

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hahaha....a wee bit melodramatic. Hmmmm....sounds like pride and ego talking...hahahaha your records are secret..hahahaha se strop it! that is what one would say if they don't have anything else to say or add. LMAO!
I am a great fan of and actually love horror and ghost stories.
Have any good ones to tell? lol
Oh absolutely! I am proud to belong to fijians, and will voice it in defence of my quiet and peaceful people! And you and I know very well that Fijians are the most humble people out there.

I guess what I meant by the ghost analogy is that Fijians have had the reputation of popping up in your history without any warning or reason. They just happened to be there in the moment and left with no footprints. Nearly every dominant figure in the history of Tonga and Samoa have had a Fijian twist in it! And we Fijians do not even know about it, neither did the Fijians that were involved, told or boast about it! It just simply erode with time, as if it had no significance to them.

So, you understand what I meant with being ghost like?

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Sorry Bud....
Whether you like it or not TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA existed and is in our oral tradition...
Tongan tradition regarding the rise...or emergence of the so called "Aho'eitu", is said... was in response as a refusal to provide the yearly tribute inati...umiti for the TUIMANU'A FITI'AUMUA...
Fiti'aumua was Samoan Fijian and of the Tagaloa family.
Our oral traditions, through prose,song,...those from Manu'a, and includes Upolu and Savai'i...mention him, mentions places that he traversed to bring war to the islands....that also includes Safulusao in Toga.....
...this fiji part ...i must disagree....
Fitiaumua is the child of Tula Taane and Tula Fafine of Manu'a. Taema and Tilafaigas mother is Faifaitama'i (fitiaumua's brother) who married Faifaimalie of Pulotu Tonga. Taema and Moamoanius daughter Nafanua got her uncles war club "the ANAVATAU" to defeat the A'ea i Sasa'e and therefore set her father free..

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Whether you like it or not Fiti'aumua wasn't samoan!!! Fitiaumua was a Togafiti..
no tribute,only umisi for Tu'itongaz Tenga to hoka their taupou daughters hehehe.. Fitiaumua is during the Togafiti period!!Tongatapu has never been invaded,as for the invasion of Safulusao?there's an Island there where its filled with fijian gravez...you'll find your invaders there lol.. also Tongans,so lets just say Fitiaumua used his Togafiti aiga...but it didn't work on Tonga.... tuimanua ruled samoa only...not Tonga nor Fiji...
Fitiaumua got his name for being a ruthless warrior who came in on Fiji and attacked with great wrath....He was called in fiji a warrior who is of great strength and might unmatched by anyone hence his name fiti au mua.

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