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#230 Jan 12, 2013
KavaFarmer wrote:
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Look it up! Tui Manu'a himself was called 'lefiti'(the fijian)! There is only one other place in the world that is called manu'a/manuka, and thats in fiji! Tagaloa himself is said to be one of the forefathers of fijians that became a god named degei!

TAU MANU'A IS THE FIRST PLACE TAGALOA TOUCHED EARTH. THE FIRST EVER TAGALOA/CHIEFLY HOUSE ON EARTH WAS BUILT ON THE ISLAND OF TAU IN MANU'A SAMOA CALLED FALE ULA. THE FALE ULA BECAME THE PALACE/HOUSE OF TUI MANU'A. THE FIRST EVER RULING EMPIRE IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC WAS BY TUI MANU'AS OF SAMOA
MANUA HISTORY TELLS OF TUIMANUA LEFANOGA LELOLOGATELE TO HAVE TRAVELLED TO TOELAU, TONGA, FIJI AND SALELOLOGA. ON THESE VOYAGES OVERSEEING HIS VAST KINGDOM HE PICKED UP SOKOSOKO LE TOA FROM TOKELAU AND LE TAMA FITI (LEFITI) FROM FIJI. AND SALELOLOGA NAMED AFTER THIS VISIT TOO.

Not only that, when tuna and fata started the uprising against the Tui Tonga, the men from matautu ignited and always led in the battles! Matautu are descendants of the first born son of Tui Lautala (a fijian chief who independently waged war throughout Samoa without the knowledge of fijians).

ACCORDING TO THE READING DOWN BELOW IT WAS TUNA, FATA, ULUMASUI, TAPULOA OF ALEIPATA WHO STARTED AND COMPLETED THE WAR. THERE IS NO MENTION OF A FIJI HELP...SORRY.

The Matautu War started because of the unfaithful Tongan wife sleeping with two chiefs.

http://www.jps.auckland.ac.nz/document/Volume...

in fiji! We can only recall fijian warriors going to samoa and coming back with teines in both arms..

MANUA HISTORY TELLS OF TUIMANUA FITIAUMUA MIGHTY EMPIRE THAT SWEPT THROUGH FIJI TONGA AND AROUND THE PACIFIC..GO A HEAD AND GOOGLE HIS NAME AND HOW HE GOT IT. UNLIKE YOU WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY READING JUST ....YOUR STORIES

“MASINA”

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#231 Jan 12, 2013
TOA wrote:
Masina
Thank you so much for the info! Its always a pleasure to learn from you.
You are quite welcome, TOA.
However, I am not done and would like to engage a discussion...regarding the question you posed as to the possibility of a Ganasavea.. Le Atigana connection to the title.
The TuiHa'angana according to what I read, considered to be old, ancient and predates other tongan titles, and yes some tongan people of repute, may state that the origin is unknown.

You must keep in mind that the language of some of the so called tongan historians, or even those who are of so called "royal", connections....may not willingly consider the historical truth of the matter...more importantly- consider a samoan connection intermingled in their history. There will be the outright denial, the indifferent shrug or even a casual "unknown thrown" along the way in order to nip it in the bud.

YOU Know as well as I do that the ousting of Talaifei'i did not mean that marriage alliances stopped. Na feusua'i lava gafa. Oute talitonu lava e iai lava le pi'itaga aua o usuga e le gata mai i Upolu ma Sava'i..O le Motu O SALAFAI ae e 'a'afia ai o le Aiga i le Tai(as we know it through its historical development and genealogical connections..mai pine fa'amau)MANONO....ma le SA LEI'ATAUA LESA

Another thing you must keep in mind while searching for that connection is that 'a fa'apea o le 'a tatou taga'i loloto i le nofoa'iga lea a Tala'ife'i'i...he would more than likely be considered a predecessor of the Tu'iHa'angana... pe 'a fa'apea e moni le latou fai mai e direct line of succession mai le tama i le atali'i. E tatau foi ona maitau mai e le gata o suli ia a GANASAVEA, ae tatau ona manatua fo'i e oe le tama lea na toe fai ma atali'i o MALIETOAFAIGA...o le tama lenei o POLULEULIGANA.
pingpongslavemas ter

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#232 Jan 12, 2013
soia wrote:
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Look it up! Tui Manu'a himself was called 'lefiti'(the fijian)! There is only one other place in the world that is called manu'a/manuka, and thats in fiji! Tagaloa himself is said to be one of the forefathers of fijians that became a god named degei!
TAU MANU'A IS THE FIRST PLACE TAGALOA TOUCHED EARTH. THE FIRST EVER TAGALOA/CHIEFLY HOUSE ON EARTH WAS BUILT ON THE ISLAND OF TAU IN MANU'A SAMOA CALLED FALE ULA. THE FALE ULA BECAME THE PALACE/HOUSE OF TUI MANU'A. THE FIRST EVER RULING EMPIRE IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC WAS BY TUI MANU'AS OF SAMOA
MANUA HISTORY TELLS OF TUIMANUA LEFANOGA LELOLOGATELE TO HAVE TRAVELLED TO TOELAU, TONGA, FIJI AND SALELOLOGA. ON THESE VOYAGES OVERSEEING HIS VAST KINGDOM HE PICKED UP SOKOSOKO LE TOA FROM TOKELAU AND LE TAMA FITI (LEFITI) FROM FIJI. AND SALELOLOGA NAMED AFTER THIS VISIT TOO.
Not only that, when tuna and fata started the uprising against the Tui Tonga, the men from matautu ignited and always led in the battles! Matautu are descendants of the first born son of Tui Lautala (a fijian chief who independently waged war throughout Samoa without the knowledge of fijians).
ACCORDING TO THE READING DOWN BELOW IT WAS TUNA, FATA, ULUMASUI, TAPULOA OF ALEIPATA WHO STARTED AND COMPLETED THE WAR. THERE IS NO MENTION OF A FIJI HELP...SORRY.
The Matautu War started because of the unfaithful Tongan wife sleeping with two chiefs.
http://www.jps.auckland.ac.nz/document/Volume...
in fiji! We can only recall fijian warriors going to samoa and coming back with teines in both arms..
MANUA HISTORY TELLS OF TUIMANUA FITIAUMUA MIGHTY EMPIRE THAT SWEPT THROUGH FIJI TONGA AND AROUND THE PACIFIC..GO A HEAD AND GOOGLE HIS NAME AND HOW HE GOT IT. UNLIKE YOU WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY READING JUST ....YOUR STORIES
TUNA, FATA, ULUMASUI, TAPULOA OF ALEIPATA are all fijian names you dumb ape their names of fijian warlords ahahaahah no wonder they came back with fijian chicks lamooo.
pingpongslavemas ter

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#233 Jan 12, 2013
soia wrote:
<quoted text>
Look it up! Tui Manu'a himself was called 'lefiti'(the fijian)! There is only one other place in the world that is called manu'a/manuka, and thats in fiji! Tagaloa himself is said to be one of the forefathers of fijians that became a god named degei!
TAU MANU'A IS THE FIRST PLACE TAGALOA TOUCHED EARTH. THE FIRST EVER TAGALOA/CHIEFLY HOUSE ON EARTH WAS BUILT ON THE ISLAND OF TAU IN MANU'A SAMOA CALLED FALE ULA. THE FALE ULA BECAME THE PALACE/HOUSE OF TUI MANU'A. THE FIRST EVER RULING EMPIRE IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC WAS BY TUI MANU'AS OF SAMOA
MANUA HISTORY TELLS OF TUIMANUA LEFANOGA LELOLOGATELE TO HAVE TRAVELLED TO TOELAU, TONGA, FIJI AND SALELOLOGA. ON THESE VOYAGES OVERSEEING HIS VAST KINGDOM HE PICKED UP SOKOSOKO LE TOA FROM TOKELAU AND LE TAMA FITI (LEFITI) FROM FIJI. AND SALELOLOGA NAMED AFTER THIS VISIT TOO.
Not only that, when tuna and fata started the uprising against the Tui Tonga, the men from matautu ignited and always led in the battles! Matautu are descendants of the first born son of Tui Lautala (a fijian chief who independently waged war throughout Samoa without the knowledge of fijians).
ACCORDING TO THE READING DOWN BELOW IT WAS TUNA, FATA, ULUMASUI, TAPULOA OF ALEIPATA WHO STARTED AND COMPLETED THE WAR. THERE IS NO MENTION OF A FIJI HELP...SORRY.
The Matautu War started because of the unfaithful Tongan wife sleeping with two chiefs.
http://www.jps.auckland.ac.nz/document/Volume...
in fiji! We can only recall fijian warriors going to samoa and coming back with teines in both arms..
MANUA HISTORY TELLS OF TUIMANUA FITIAUMUA MIGHTY EMPIRE THAT SWEPT THROUGH FIJI TONGA AND AROUND THE PACIFIC..GO A HEAD AND GOOGLE HIS NAME AND HOW HE GOT IT. UNLIKE YOU WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY READING JUST ....YOUR STORIES
sorry i mean Samoan slave chick ahahaha

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#234 Jan 12, 2013
tuna and fata and four others are the son of Atiogie and the grand sons of Feepo of Safotu

http://books.google.com/books...

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#235 Jan 12, 2013
soia wrote:
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I never said anything about Fiji fighting on behalf of Samoa, but rather the descendants of early Fijians that campaigned in Samoa! Fijians that came directly from Fiji during the Tonga vs Samoa war were on the side of Tongans... Infact, I read that the title Malie Toa which came from the final words 'Malie Tau', whom the Tui Tonga uttered as he was departing, was not in actual fact directed towards the Samoans but to the last warrior that remained on shore to hold the reigns of the galloping Tuna and Fata warriors! The words that was picked to describe that warrior was the term 'TongaFisi'. In Tongan,'Malie Tau' means great warrior... But in Fijian,'Malie Tau' means, a great friend!

And about your post about Tagaloa, I say grow up and get a grip on reality! Use your common sense! They were mere man, pioneers! With that in mind, one must consider the versions of oracles that surround such a figure from all available sources! Not Manu'a alone! I can tell you right now that before Samoa was found, Fiji was already named with countless empires ruling and warring inside of it! Still don't believe me? The first two settlements in Samoa when it was initially inhabited, which I presume was during the arrival of 'Tagaloa', was named in accordance to their direction towards Fiji. Now that should give you an idea of who Tagaloa is, and where such a man may have originated in order to name his sacred island of choice after an ancient mountain in Fiji called 'Manuka/Manu'a'...

Use your common sense!

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#236 Jan 12, 2013
If tagaloa considers manua to be its first home here on earth...why are we discussing directions. I have provided enough reading to suggest MANUA is the first south pacific empire...I believe there might be people in Fiji and Tonga, but I don't thing they were organized or a civilized group with a political system. They were just loose bands of clans trying to settle the still unfamiliar ground. TuiManua went into Fiji and Tonga and cause havoc because they were not organized just like when TuiTonga went into Upolu who were heavily in wars were easily conquered until they were treated differently they decided to joined forces and rid of the foreign occupiers
stopit

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#237 Jan 12, 2013
Taupoimasina wrote:
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YES. When it comes to MOTU O SALAFAI - SAVAI'I there is no question about where one places such historical names. It is family connections. MULI'AGA...or more appropriately the SALEMULI'AGA has its origins...establishment from MULI'AGALAFAI,the youngest of LAFAI and Mata'uiatali's 7 children.
If you are talking about LAFAI'S other son Va'asilitamaolepo, adopted to his second marriage to Mata'uiafatu, the sister of his first wife. From Va'asilitamaolepo's marriage comes the sons (1)Lafailetaua and (2)Lafaitupa'itea... and through #2 the other great grandsons of LAFAI..Muli'agalafaitagata and Muliagalafai'aitu...et cetera
SALEMULI'AGA, LE MULI'AGA, MULI'AGATELE..MULI'AGA...MULIA GASOIFUANA...et cetera...all point to the youngest son of LAFAI as the progenitor of the SALEMULI'AGA family/clan.
MAMAALEMASINA is T4 Queen SALAMASINA'S maternal great grandmother and her genealogy tracing back to her(T4 SALAMASINA'S) 5th(FOTUSAMOA m.TO'ALEPAI),6th(LAUFAFAETOGA m.LAUTALA)et cetera
Fa'afetai/Thanks... your name was in my uncles gafa,why i'd thought i'll ask you.. thanks for the detailed info,i thought my uncle was a loi'eho lol.

the name "LEFONO" in my maternal uncles gafa is believed to be MAMAALEMASINAz husband?So he sayz.. but judging from your info,soundz like hez not drunk talking lol.. but my other uncle who livez in Tonga,has MULIAGA instead in his gafa,i'm thinking out loud?both names belong to one person... as both names are in Tonga,i've been calling one of my uncles MULI since i could remember...just found out its short for MULIAGA!!

anyway...cheers...tai lava..fo'i teeekz ho'o info ta'ahine taupo'ou mei ha'alafai!!

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#238 Jan 12, 2013
soia wrote:
If tagaloa considers manua to be its first home here on earth...why are we discussing directions. I have provided enough reading to suggest MANUA is the first south pacific empire...I believe there might be people in Fiji and Tonga, but I don't thing they were organized or a civilized group with a political system. They were just loose bands of clans trying to settle the still unfamiliar ground. TuiManua went into Fiji and Tonga and cause havoc because they were not organized just like when TuiTonga went into Upolu who were heavily in wars were easily conquered until they were treated differently they decided to joined forces and rid of the foreign occupiers
You're seriously not implying that Tagaloa is an actual immortal being equivalent to God right? If that is what you're saying then this conversation about Tagaloa is over, because I am obviously talking to a little kid!

Trust me, civilization that sprouted in Fiji is yonds more advanced than Samoa, if Samoa ever had any! And I have no interests in discussing it with you because its a subject of mammoth proportions and intricate sophistication! We even have hundreds of immovable stone pillars of written language that will remain undecipherable forever. Lol. Your ignorance is absolutely hilarious!
stopit

Australia

#239 Jan 12, 2013
soia wrote:
If tagaloa considers manua to be its first home here on earth...why are we discussing directions. I have provided enough reading to suggest MANUA is the first south pacific empire...I believe there might be people in Fiji and Tonga, but I don't thing they were organized or a civilized group with a political system. They were just loose bands of clans trying to settle the still unfamiliar ground. TuiManua went into Fiji and Tonga and cause havoc because they were not organized just like when TuiTonga went into Upolu who were heavily in wars were easily conquered until they were treated differently they decided to joined forces and rid of the foreign occupiers
Manua is where Tongan colonistz first settled samoa...Moa,attendants,followe rs and Tongafiti warlordz came and brought law and order,yes,and the political system as well!!!Keep telling people youse fell off the sky or grew out of maggotz... but your 1st and original rulers came from Tonga!!Tangaloa wasn't a god dumb fafa,just like Tu'itonga wasn't a god... you can't believe your rulers came from a small kingdom like Tonga,yet you can believe youse came from a tiny Island called manua... tell the manua peepz stop fufu'ing and spit it out...MOA AND HIS PEOPLE CAME FROM TONGA...

tai lava
plNGPong

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#240 Jan 12, 2013
soia wrote:
If tagaloa considers manua to be its first home here on earth...why are we discussing directions. I have provided enough reading to suggest MANUA is the first south pacific empire...I believe there might be people in Fiji and Tonga, but I don't thing they were organized or a civilized group with a political system. They were just loose bands of clans trying to settle the still unfamiliar ground.
TuiManua went into Fiji and Tonga and cause havoc because they were not organized just like when TuiTonga went into Upolu who were heavily in wars were easily conquered until they were treated differently they decided to joined forces and rid of the foreign occupiers
Omg tagalga is a tongan word for fijian name fk sake.

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

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Apia, Samoa

#241 Jan 12, 2013
KavaFarmer wrote:
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You absolutely do have their hair! And the skin color of apes!
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/picture/baumer/bal...
lol ..i said u dark like gorillas..apes r brown

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#242 Jan 12, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>lol ..i said u dark like gorillas..apes r brown
Say what? Ahahahaha... Silly ape, trying to down grade gorillas just coz you can't deny that youse look like apes! Hahahaha...lol. You're all the same species, gorillas and chimps are apes hahaha...

http://www.stevenhumour.com/wp-content/upload...

Tui Manure and princess Polo
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u454/linn...

http://www.indiamike.com/files/images/23/79/0...

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Since: Oct 09

Apia, Samoa

#243 Jan 12, 2013
KavaFarmer wrote:
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Say what? Ahahahaha... Silly ape, trying to down grade gorillas just coz you can't deny that youse look like apes! Hahahaha...lol. You're all the same species, gorillas and chimps are apes hahaha...
http://www.stevenhumour.com/wp-content/upload...
Tui Manure and princess Polo
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u454/linn...
http://www.indiamike.com/files/images/23/79/0...
i repeat..gorillas r black..there r white and brown monkeys u know..but fitis r not brown, they black like gorillas..ur ancestors he he...

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Since: Oct 09

Apia, Samoa

#244 Jan 12, 2013
Taupoimasina wrote:
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You are quite welcome, TOA.
However, I am not done and would like to engage a discussion...regarding the question you posed as to the possibility of a Ganasavea.. Le Atigana connection to the title.
The TuiHa'angana according to what I read, considered to be old, ancient and predates other tongan titles, and yes some tongan people of repute, may state that the origin is unknown.
You must keep in mind that the language of some of the so called tongan historians, or even those who are of so called "royal", connections....may not willingly consider the historical truth of the matter...more importantly- consider a samoan connection intermingled in their history. There will be the outright denial, the indifferent shrug or even a casual "unknown thrown" along the way in order to nip it in the bud.
YOU Know as well as I do that the ousting of Talaifei'i did not mean that marriage alliances stopped. Na feusua'i lava gafa. Oute talitonu lava e iai lava le pi'itaga aua o usuga e le gata mai i Upolu ma Sava'i..O le Motu O SALAFAI ae e 'a'afia ai o le Aiga i le Tai(as we know it through its historical development and genealogical connections..mai pine fa'amau)MANONO....ma le SA LEI'ATAUA LESA
Another thing you must keep in mind while searching for that connection is that 'a fa'apea o le 'a tatou taga'i loloto i le nofoa'iga lea a Tala'ife'i'i...he would more than likely be considered a predecessor of the Tu'iHa'angana... pe 'a fa'apea e moni le latou fai mai e direct line of succession mai le tama i le atali'i. E tatau foi ona maitau mai e le gata o suli ia a GANASAVEA, ae tatau ona manatua fo'i e oe le tama lea na toe fai ma atali'i o MALIETOAFAIGA...o le tama lenei o POLULEULIGANA.
i too learning a lot..smirks..all the fijians doing on here r actin like the primates they r

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#245 Jan 12, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>i repeat..gorillas r black..there r white and brown monkeys u know..but fitis r not brown, they black like gorillas..ur ancestors he he...
but we are not the ones with ape hair! Hahahaha... You are the missing link lol

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#246 Jan 12, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>i too learning a lot..smirks..all the fijians doing on here r actin like the primates they r
You previously confirmed that youse are indeed apes, but deny being gorilla even-though gorilla hair grows on your ape body! Hahahaha

TOA

“"TUI MANU'A LO'U ALI'I E"”

Since: Jun 09

Compton, CA

#247 Jan 12, 2013
Taupoimasina wrote:
<quoted text>
You are quite welcome, TOA.
However, I am not done and would like to engage a discussion...regarding the question you posed as to the possibility of a Ganasavea.. Le Atigana connection to the title.
The TuiHa'angana according to what I read, considered to be old, ancient and predates other tongan titles, and yes some tongan people of repute, may state that the origin is unknown.
You must keep in mind that the language of some of the so called tongan historians, or even those who are of so called "royal", connections....may not willingly consider the historical truth of the matter...more importantly- consider a samoan connection intermingled in their history. There will be the outright denial, the indifferent shrug or even a casual "unknown thrown" along the way in order to nip it in the bud.
YOU Know as well as I do that the ousting of Talaifei'i did not mean that marriage alliances stopped. Na feusua'i lava gafa. Oute talitonu lava e iai lava le pi'itaga aua o usuga e le gata mai i Upolu ma Sava'i..O le Motu O SALAFAI ae e 'a'afia ai o le Aiga i le Tai(as we know it through its historical development and genealogical connections..mai pine fa'amau)MANONO....ma le SA LEI'ATAUA LESA
Another thing you must keep in mind while searching for that connection is that 'a fa'apea o le 'a tatou taga'i loloto i le nofoa'iga lea a Tala'ife'i'i...he would more than likely be considered a predecessor of the Tu'iHa'angana... pe 'a fa'apea e moni le latou fai mai e direct line of succession mai le tama i le atali'i. E tatau foi ona maitau mai e le gata o suli ia a GANASAVEA, ae tatau ona manatua fo'i e oe le tama lea na toe fai ma atali'i o MALIETOAFAIGA...o le tama lenei o POLULEULIGANA.
Masina

Exactly! Masina correct me if I am wrong;

* Malietoa Faiga married ALAINUANUA a Tongan Princess who was the daughter of a Tui Tonga? Malietoa Ganasavea also married a Tongan Princess named PATE who was the daughter of another Tui Tonga? POLULEULIGANA was the brother of ALAINUANUA?

I too believe that the GANA Clan of Malietoa has connections to the GANA Clan of Tonga. Another thing that caught my attention was the 17th Tui Tonga Ma'akatoe who was said to have been a female TUI TONGA. Could a Malietoa have married the 17th Tui Tonga giving rise to the 19th Tui Tonga HAVEA (SAVEA) and the HA'A NGANA CLAN in Tonga?(JUST THINKING OUT LOUD) since the first Malietoa's seemed to have married the daughters of Tui Tonga's.



TOA

“"TUI MANU'A LO'U ALI'I E"”

Since: Jun 09

Compton, CA

#248 Jan 12, 2013
KAva Farmer

It seems your Tongan Side is starting to talk for you now lol you are starting to sound more and more like these TONGANS on here who make up so many different stories with no evidence or sources to support there claims for example:

1) UIHA and his TUI FAI FAI supreme Tongan sperm made up stories.

2) PINGPING and his 7 EMPIRES of Fiji made up story whats funny is if we get him angry enough his 7 Empires jumps to 13 Empires lol and for some odd reason he seems to think we are all Toga/Fisi and originated from INDIA and are ARYANS at the same time???????(WTF) lol

3) STOP IT and his made up claims of the first SAMOAN KINGS coming from Tonga when asked to provide evidence he cannot do it because he made it up himself.

4) UKAMEA this guy comes up with so many different versions of History but when asked where did he receive his info from he says he made it up himself but still wants us to believe him.

5) POLY KING this guy knows about all the SAMOAN INFLUENCES in TONGA but still sits there and Deny's it at the same time. One day he admits all the Samoan Influences in Tonga then the next day he is denying all the Samoan Influence (WEIRD GUY).

6) KAVA FARMER????????

Kava Farmer you are beginning to float in the same boat as the names listed above.

* YOU STATED: Tui Manu'a himself was called 'lefiti'(the fijian).

* MY REPLY: That is a lie Kava Farmer Im guessing you made that up yourself? Tui Manu'a himself was never called LE FITI (THE FIJIAN) for LE FITI is a chiefly title created by Tui Manu'a let me break it down for you:

1) Tui Manu'a had 2 groups of special Chiefs; One group of Chiefs were called the PUPUALI'I which consists of 6 Chiefs: Lefiti, Moliga, Fua, Fasua, Leasau and Nua the other Group of Chiefs were called the USOALI'I which consisted of these Chiefs: Soatoa, Levao, Solia, Maui and others.

During special ceremonies such as meetings and so forth the Usoali'i Chiefs occupied posts on the right hand side of the King (TUI MANU'A), and the Pupuali'i (Chiefs) occupied those on his left hand side etc... etc... etc....

YOU STATED: There even records of Samoan chiefs seeking refuge in hawaii to escape from fijians.

MY REPLY: This is the first time I have heard of such as thing could you please provide sources to support your claims?

YOUS STATED: Your men are no challenge at all, they are only good at sports! War aint a game, its an occupation!

MY REPLY: Funny you say that when it is stated that Tui Manu'a conquered parts of Fiji and his his efforts of warfare earned him the name FITIAUMUA or the most superior Warrior in Fiji it was found out, that the powerful Fijian Armies and her allies were in heavy losses and could not match the SAMOAN WARRIOR Fitiaumua in any battles of his conquest of there land.

* Tui Lautala one of Fiji's most feared warrior was said to have never lost a battle in Fiji but that came to an end in SAMOA. He messed up when he decided to fight one of the Tupa'i brothers of Samoa all over a TONGAN PRINCESS which lead him to travel to Samoa and wage war which eventually lead to his defeat.

* Tui Feai aka Tui Samoa (SAMOAN/FIJIAN) this Chief's father was Tui Fiti and his mother was the sister of Malietoa. To cut a long story short Tui Feai was known for his cruel and fierce ways. Malietoa sent Tui Feai to Tutuila to become a Chief there as time went on Malietoafaiga, ordered cannibalism abolished in Samoa. Tuifeai did not heed the Malietoa's order which lead to his downfall. Lutu and Solosolo of Lufilufi volunteered to sail to Tutuila and slay Tuifeai, upholding Malietoa's decree to end cannibalism. Tui Feai and his warriors in Tutuila were then defeated by Lutu, Solosolo and there Warriors.

* Solosolo was bestowed the Paramount Chief title of Unutoa. Lutu retained the name Lutu in Fagatogo. Solosolo's kava cup name in Lufilufi, when ever he decides to visit, is Moetoto (slept bloody).

Great Warriors of Fiji and Tonga seemed to always meet there match in Samoa.

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#250 Jan 12, 2013
KavaFarmer wrote:
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You're seriously not implying that Tagaloa is an actual immortal being equivalent to God right? If that is what you're saying then this conversation about Tagaloa is over, because I am obviously talking to a little kid!
Trust me, civilization that sprouted in Fiji is yonds more advanced than Samoa, if Samoa ever had any! And I have no interests in discussing it with you because its a subject of mammoth proportions and intricate sophistication! We even have hundreds of immovable stone pillars of written language that will remain undecipherable forever. Lol. Your ignorance is absolutely hilarious!
Scholars differentiate between logic and reasoning and data. If only one person speaks of an event and you will not hear it elsewhere that it is possible this story is weak. but If more than one person talks about him than he must come from somewhere..exaggerate or not we try to balance it out..and we here Tagaloa everywhere in the pacific...and they all claim Manua as the original homeland. If you look at other islands stories they all seems to agree on an issue with minor differences. I feel like I'm teaching an anthropology class. se uffren go to school

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