Is Tangaloa and SINA from savii the father of Fijian and Tongan

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In Samoa we call evidence, "Pine Fa'amau". Now Im not going to sit here and tell you that I know 100% where Tagaloalagi came from or where he originated but strong evidence points to Manu'a in Samoa.

Samoan & Tongan Historians:

1) Tagaloalagi was personified by the Tui Manu'a.(Tupua 1995)

2) Tagaloalagi entered Savaii, Upolu and Tonga from the East specifically from the Manu'a Islands.(Meleisea)

3) Pulotu is Fiji, Maama is Tonga, Lagi is Samoa. Tagaloa is associated with Samoa/Lagi. Hikule'o is associated with Fiji/Pulotu and Maui is associated with Tonga/Maama.(Mahina)

* Pine Fa'amau to these claims can be seen with the ancient Chiefs of Samoa:

1) Tui Manu'a Tae O Tagaloa (Manu'a)
2) Tui Atua Tagaloa Tupua aka Lu O Tagaloa (Upolu)
3) Tagaloa Aopo (Manu'a & Upolu)
4) Le Tagaloa Funefeai (Savaii)

etc.... etc.... etc.....

YOU STATED: Why are some fijians sound patriotic to Tongans? Well one is that Queen Salote's half brother was a fijian! The son of the actual tui tonga!

MY REPLY: So you are telling me that Fijians kiss Tongans @sses for the simple fact that the half brother of Queen Salote Tupou was Fijian? What kind of $hit is that?

* Samoans and Tongans have went to war with each other, fought alongside each other, married each other, traded with each other, helped each other, established Royal Lines with each other and so forth yet you do not see Samoans kissing Tongans @sses.

Like I said before Fiji never did crush the Tongans the way Samoans did (Malietoa) hence Fijians seem to always bow down to Tongans. You should thank Britain Kava Farmer or you would be speaking TONGAN right now.

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In Samoa we call evidence, "Pine Fa'amau". Now Im not going to sit here and tell you that I know 100% where Tagaloalagi came from or where he originated but strong evidence points to Manu'a in Samoa.

Samoan & Tongan Historians:

1) Tagaloalagi was personified by the Tui Manu'a.(Tupua 1995)

2) Tagaloalagi entered Savaii, Upolu and Tonga from the East specifically from the Manu'a Islands.(Meleisea)

3) Pulotu is Fiji, Maama is Tonga, Lagi is Samoa. Tagaloa is associated with Samoa/Lagi. Hikule'o is associated with Fiji/Pulotu and Maui is associated with Tonga/Maama.(Mahina)

* Pine Fa'amau to these claims can be seen with the ancient Chiefs of Samoa:

1) Tui Manu'a Tae O Tagaloa (Manu'a)
2) Tui Atua Tagaloa Tupua aka Lu O Tagaloa (Upolu)
3) Tagaloa Aopo (Manu'a & Upolu)
4) Le Tagaloa Funefeai (Savaii)

etc.... etc.... etc.....

YOU STATED: Why are some fijians sound patriotic to Tongans? Well one is that Queen Salote's half brother was a fijian! The son of the actual tui tonga!

MY REPLY: So you are telling me that Fijians kiss Tongans @sses for the simple fact that the half brother of Queen Salote Tupou was Fijian? What kind of $hit is that?

* Samoans and Tongans have went to war with each other, fought alongside each other, married each other, traded with each other, helped each other, established Royal Lines with each other and so forth yet you do not see Samoans kissing Tongans @sses. The current ruling family in Tonga have roots in Samoa hence Kanokupolu (Flesh of Upolu) yet Samoans dont kiss Tongans @sses like Fijians.

Like I said before Fiji never did crush the Tongans the way Samoans did hence Fijians seem to always bow down to Tongans. Thank god for Britain or you would be speaking Tongan right now my jealous Fijian Brother.

Hey Im still waiting on your reply to my question: Name 1 Fijian who tops Samoan Command Sgt Major Iuniasolua Savusa?

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I see who you are, a Samoan hater...Im new to topix and I read other related subjects and all I see is your monkey ass hating on samoan. well keep on hating because no Samoan gives a shit about what a Fijian think or say.

ANd to tell you the truth, most Samoan like me dont give a shit about what happened thousand ago.

We dont brag about anything, we're too busy thinking about the future unlike bitter morons like you who wish to live in the past.

In fact I wish it was a thousands years ago for a moment so I can watch your ass being slave in Samoa.

Let me sai this one more time... Samoa is the home of the Tui Fiti and Tui Tonga. They were all Samoan men. Not a single Samoan became a slave, it was your people that were brought to Samoa and became slave.Take it or move on. There is a reason why Samoa is call the Sacred Land and the Lands of the Gods.

Take your lies and shove it up your ugly monkey ass. Your lies dont face me, I know the true story. And dont assume shit, Im not from Am SAmoa, I was born and raised in Savaii and I study the true Samoan history there before moving to the US.

All you know is rumors and Wikipedia bs.

anyways go drink your kava and tell everybody what I just said. my last reply..This argument is dismissed......

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Kava Farmer
In Samoa we call evidence, "Pine Fa'amau". Now Im not going to sit here and tell you that I know 100% where Tagaloalagi came from or where he originated but strong evidence points to Manu'a in Samoa.
Samoan & Tongan Historians:
1) Tagaloalagi was personified by the Tui Manu'a.(Tupua 1995)
2) Tagaloalagi entered Savaii, Upolu and Tonga from the East specifically from the Manu'a Islands.(Meleisea)
3) Pulotu is Fiji, Maama is Tonga, Lagi is Samoa. Tagaloa is associated with Samoa/Lagi. Hikule'o is associated with Fiji/Pulotu and Maui is associated with Tonga/Maama.(Mahina)
* Pine Fa'amau to these claims can be seen with the ancient Chiefs of Samoa:
1) Tui Manu'a Tae O Tagaloa (Manu'a)
2) Tui Atua Tagaloa Tupua aka Lu O Tagaloa (Upolu)
3) Tagaloa Aopo (Manu'a & Upolu)
4) Le Tagaloa Funefeai (Savaii)
etc.... etc.... etc.....
YOU STATED: Why are some fijians sound patriotic to Tongans? Well one is that Queen Salote's half brother was a fijian! The son of the actual tui tonga!
MY REPLY: So you are telling me that Fijians kiss Tongans @sses for the simple fact that the half brother of Queen Salote Tupou was Fijian? What kind of $hit is that?
* Samoans and Tongans have went to war with each other, fought alongside each other, married each other, traded with each other, helped each other, established Royal Lines with each other and so forth yet you do not see Samoans kissing Tongans @sses.
Like I said before Fiji never did crush the Tongans the way Samoans did (Malietoa) hence Fijians seem to always bow down to Tongans. You should thank Britain Kava Farmer or you would be speaking TONGAN right now.
What that fcuk is wrong with that thick numb skull of yours? The half brother shows how close these two people are! Some parts of Fiji are so close with Tonga, they are practically the same people! That is what I'm saying!!!!!!!!! You clearly can't think outside the box! As I have said before, and I suspect I will be saying it again, "use your common sense"!!!!!

Don't talk to me about bowing down old man! You have no idea what tribe I'm from and my connection to the war against the Tongans! All you do is make assumptions day in and day out! Let me put it out there for you...Fijians had a clean show down with the Tongans and Lauans along with their allies! They fought my people, and we won fair and square! Yes, I'm from Cakaudrove! Be-careful when you talk about my history! Do you even know what went down behind close doors between Ma'afu and his ambitions? Do you even know who Ma'afu was or what he doing in Fiji? You clearly don't!!! You have no clue what his activities were, and where they were held! How can someone who knows nothing about a particular subject, try to teach it to someone who knows?

Fijians do not kiss anyones ass! You are saying this because you are American Samoan and have little if not no access to Fijians like Western Samoans! They know who we are better than youse! You don't know Fijian people! All you have in the brain is the idea that Fijians are dark, so they are inferior! That is whats in that head of yours! Well news flash, you are actually seen as inferior if you go to the highlands of Fiji! These are real warriors that Tongans warned the white man about! Victorious warriors were known to refuse the gift of Tongan women for winning the battles...it is said that it will weaken their bloodline! This still continues today in some-parts!
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I see who you are, a Samoan hater...Im new to topix and I read other related subjects and all I see is your monkey ass hating on samoan. well keep on hating because no Samoan gives a shit about what a Fijian think or say.
ANd to tell you the truth, most Samoan like me dont give a shit about what happened thousand ago.
We dont brag about anything, we're too busy thinking about the future unlike bitter morons like you who wish to live in the past.
In fact I wish it was a thousands years ago for a moment so I can watch your ass being slave in Samoa.
Let me sai this one more time... Samoa is the home of the Tui Fiti and Tui Tonga. They were all Samoan men. Not a single Samoan became a slave, it was your people that were brought to Samoa and became slave.Take it or move on. There is a reason why Samoa is call the Sacred Land and the Lands of the Gods.
Take your lies and shove it up your ugly monkey ass. Your lies dont face me, I know the true story. And dont assume shit, Im not from Am SAmoa, I was born and raised in Savaii and I study the true Samoan history there before moving to the US.
All you know is rumors and Wikipedia bs.
anyways go drink your kava and tell everybody what I just said. my last reply..This argument is dismissed......
slaves cannot be masters that has been for told in human history tui viti and tui tonga enslaved Samoa the mark is there you know it so do all of us its just the fact everyone knows.
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well, well, well,....looks like young Dunken farmer got fasi'd badly....let that be a lesson to you young one (or was that HoneyBuns? hahaha).

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Kava
I see who you are, a Samoan hater...Im new to topix and I read other related subjects and all I see is your monkey ass hating on samoan. well keep on hating because no Samoan gives a shit about what a Fijian think or say.
ANd to tell you the truth, most Samoan like me dont give a shit about what happened thousand ago.
We dont brag about anything, we're too busy thinking about the future unlike bitter morons like you who wish to live in the past.
In fact I wish it was a thousands years ago for a moment so I can watch your ass being slave in Samoa.
Let me sai this one more time... Samoa is the home of the Tui Fiti and Tui Tonga. They were all Samoan men. Not a single Samoan became a slave, it was your people that were brought to Samoa and became slave.Take it or move on. There is a reason why Samoa is call the Sacred Land and the Lands of the Gods.
Take your lies and shove it up your ugly monkey ass. Your lies dont face me, I know the true story. And dont assume shit, Im not from Am SAmoa, I was born and raised in Savaii and I study the true Samoan history there before moving to the US.
All you know is rumors and Wikipedia bs.
anyways go drink your kava and tell everybody what I just said. my last reply..This argument is dismissed......
Who gives a crap what you say! You don't know anything at all! You are so dumb, my finger refuse to reply to you, but I force myself because you need to know that you're dumb!

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Hey Im still waiting on your reply to my question: Name 1 Fijian who tops Samoan Command Sgt Major Iuniasolua Savusa?
Is he the only one you got? Is that what you call a warrior of Samoa? He was in the US army from the age of 17 and only reached command major general? Thats not even an army officer!!!!!

Theres a saying that goes,'quality not quantity'! Fijians are always on the 'quality' spectrum of the military! SPecial forces is what we are good at!

There's a NZ special forces selector who is a former Fiji army soldier! He told me that Fijians are superior fighters, one of the best on the planet! Weapons issued to the US Navy seal were found to be used during the May 2000 coup in Fiji by rogue Fiji military special forces units! The questions raised were quickly put away because the Fiji's special forces unit (Counter revolutionary warfare) were training with US Seals on jungle warfare!

These are a list some of Fiji's sons on war!

Fred Marafono (former SAS, involved in the Siera Leone war)'Blood Diamonds'
http://thenewrisingsun.net/tnrs/ViewSingleArt...

Sekonaia Takavesi & Talaiasi Labalaba (legendary SAS soldiers)
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/takavesi.html

Ratu Sukuna (Fijian leader) awarded the highest medal of honor in France the Croix de guerre during the war!

Cpl Sukanaivalu who was awarded the victoria cross! The highest military decoration awarded for valour in the battle-field in the commonwealth!

There are more Fijians who surpass many men on the planet but are living in secrecy due to their SAS occupation! The current defence adviser for the dictator in Fiji is a Fijian former CIA!

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well, well, well,....looks like young Dunken farmer got fasi'd badly....let that be a lesson to you young one (or was that HoneyBuns? hahaha).
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Get your American half a grip on reality! They are finally showing signs of Samoa's fake history!

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What I completely disagree with here is the notion that Fijians were Slaves in Samoa.

It's the firt time I have ever come across this absurd claim.

There was obviously a Tribal Structure in place and whichever Samoan Clans were born in the Building Caste or Toilet Cleaning Caste; that was their Job.

Interactions between Samoa, Fiji and Tonga were and still are primarily of the High Rank variety i.e It's the Chiefly Clans of these 3 Islands that form connections and not their general populations.
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What I completely disagree with here is the notion that Fijians were Slaves in Samoa.
It's the firt time I have ever come across this absurd claim.
There was obviously a Tribal Structure in place and whichever Samoan Clans were born in the Building Caste or Toilet Cleaning Caste; that was their Job.
Interactions between Samoa, Fiji and Tonga were and still are primarily of the High Rank variety i.e It's the Chiefly Clans of these 3 Islands that form connections and not their general populations.
didnt you say savii was the black part of SAMOA lamooo.
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What I completely disagree with here is the notion that Fijians were Slaves in Samoa.
It's the firt time I have ever come across this absurd claim.
There was obviously a Tribal Structure in place and whichever Samoan Clans were born in the Building Caste or Toilet Cleaning Caste; that was their Job.
Interactions between Samoa, Fiji and Tonga were and still are primarily of the High Rank variety i.e It's the Chiefly Clans of these 3 Islands that form connections and not their general populations.
is this you in FIJI tv Soria
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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slaves cannot be masters that has been for told in human history tui viti and tui tonga enslaved Samoa the mark is there you know it so do all of us its just the fact everyone knows.
hahaha you so wana be master but you still a slave to the Samoan. lol its funny that you never talk about the people ruling you today. In case you too stupid to know, Tui Kanakaupolu is Samoan. They been slaving your ass for 4 century even as you making all this lame statement.

Ever wonder why you wear the fine mat? Tui Kanakaupolu ordered all tongans to wear to show respect to Samoa.

Take good care of the fine mat and because you showing respect to Samoa everytime you put it on. We dont give a damn about your siapo..hahaha

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What I completely disagree with here is the notion that Fijians were Slaves in Samoa.
It's the firt time I have ever come across this absurd claim.
There was obviously a Tribal Structure in place and whichever Samoan Clans were born in the Building Caste or Toilet Cleaning Caste; that was their Job.
Interactions between Samoa, Fiji and Tonga were and still are primarily of the High Rank variety i.e It's the Chiefly Clans of these 3 Islands that form connections and not their general populations.
Brainwashed....go find out the truth, not from Kva and PK..haha
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hahaha you so wana be master but you still a slave to the Samoan. lol its funny that you never talk about the people ruling you today. In case you too stupid to know, Tui Kanakaupolu is Samoan. They been slaving your ass for 4 century even as you making all this lame statement.
Ever wonder why you wear the fine mat? Tui Kanakaupolu ordered all tongans to wear to show respect to Samoa.
Take good care of the fine mat and because you showing respect to Samoa everytime you put it on. We dont give a damn about your siapo..hahaha
i dont know whos laughing you is the slave thats your history of tui viti and tui tonga dont try gap it ape plus savii is blackieee.
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hahaha you so wana be master but you still a slave to the Samoan. lol its funny that you never talk about the people ruling you today. In case you too stupid to know, Tui Kanakaupolu is Samoan. They been slaving your ass for 4 century even as you making all this lame statement.
Ever wonder why you wear the fine mat? Tui Kanakaupolu ordered all tongans to wear to show respect to Samoa.
Take good care of the fine mat and because you showing respect to Samoa everytime you put it on. We dont give a damn about your siapo..hahaha
tui is not for Samoan its only for fijian and Tongan you have no right to claim anything why because your a slave whats why we look down on you because your facts and bs stories dont add up. Samoan clans who are enslaved was sent all over to fiji to work for fijian to build our war ships and etc and on-words in our empire.
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Brainwashed....go find out the truth, not from Kva and PK..haha
desperate for an excuse lamooo ahahahaah

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tui is not for Samoan its only for fijian and Tongan you have no right to claim anything why because your a slave whats why we look down on you because your facts and bs stories dont add up. Samoan clans who are enslaved was sent all over to fiji to work for fijian to build our war ships and etc and on-words in our empire.
that's ok... these Samoan apes are suffering a big time inferior complex mental illness... they are scared of Tongans and Fisi and now they are scared of Maori... i just don't get it. They are bigger and have more in numbers yet still scared of us... hmm, fafa syndrome mixed with Stockholm syndrome... so sad. why Samoa, why?? lmao hahahaha

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is this you in FIJI tv Soria
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You are the Pig in the video! lol.

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Brainwashed....go find out the truth, not from Kva and PK..haha
If any of the 3 Islanders were likely to be Slaves back then, it's Samoans. You can tell by their poor Customer Service Skills; lol

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