Ancient Samoan Influence In Polynesia!

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TOA

Sacramento, CA

#1 Feb 5, 2010
Now I have been researching just how much Influence Samoa had in Ancient Polynesia and this is what I found out.

Samoan Chiefs stretched Samoan rule & Influence across the pacific not only to Polynesian Islands but also Melanesia & Micronesia islands such as
Tonga, Niuafo'ou, Niuatoputapu, Tafahi, Niue, The Marquesas, Rotuma, the Cook Islands, Uvea, Futuna, Tokelau, Rurutu, Hawaii, Kiribati, Tuvalu, Tikopia, Pukapuka, Nukuoro, Kapingamarangi, Nukumanu, Sikaina etc.....

In the case of Tonga till this day their are islands in Tonga such as Uvea, Niuatoputapu, Tafahi, Niuafo'ou etc their language is mixed with SAMOAN. I even learned that the islands of Niuatoputapu, Niuafo'ou & Tafahi Anciently were owned & ruled by SAMOANS.

Futuna after being settled came under the rule/influence of SAMOA.

Hawaii also came under the rule & Influence of SAMOA (Pili & Paao).

RaroTonga came under the rule & Influence of Samoa.(KARIKA).

Tafahi Tonga people claim their island was created by a Samoan Demon who dropped a Niua mountain half way back to SAMOA.

Kiribati claims Ancient Samoan Invasions of their islands.

Tokelau was populated for around 1000 years, with traditional tales linking there Ancient Polynesian Ancestors with Samoa, the Cook Islands and Tuvalu.

Tuvalu claims their earlier ancestors came mostly from Samoa, possibly by way of Tokelau, while others came from Tonga and Uvea (Wallis Island). These settlers were all Polynesians with the exception of Nui where many people are descendants of Micronesians from Kiribati.

Nukuoro claims their original rulers & Ancestors came from SAMOA.

Rotuma Fiji claim a Samoan Chief named Raho came to their islands and sprinkled Savaii soil on Rotuma to claim Rotuma as his island.

Tikopia Anciently was regarded as a colony of Samoa

Their is too much to write it all down on here but feel free to comment another thing mostly all of these islands stated about are all under the category (SAMOIC LANGUAGE) because they originated from or have heavily borrowed from Samoans in prehistory.

(THATS ALOT OF ISLANDS WHATS FUNNY IS THAT THATS NOT ALL OF THEM LOL I WILL LIST MORE LATER.)
GET IT RIGHT

Auckland, New Zealand

#2 Feb 13, 2010
Tokelau wasnt ruled by anyone .. not Tonga, not Samoa .. NOBODY ...
Proud

Lower Hutt, New Zealand

#3 Feb 13, 2010
GET IT RIGHT wrote:
Tokelau wasnt ruled by anyone .. not Tonga, not Samoa .. NOBODY ...
You got that right...lol

TOA

“"TUI MANU'A LO'U ALI'I E"”

Since: Jun 09

Compton, CA

#4 Mar 1, 2010
Samoa had so much influence in Polynesia as well as Micronesia and some parts of Melanesia.

If you look at the titles of Samoa the Tui Manu'a Title and the Tui Atua Title are the most Ancient Titles of Samoa and much older the other Polynesian Islands Royal Titles.

Tui Manu'a Title - Tui Manu'a Elisala was 60th & Last Title Holder of this Title

Tui Atua Title - The Current Head Of State Of Samoa Tui Atua Tupua Tamasese is the 51st holder of this Title.

Tui Tonga Title - Tui Tonga Laufilitonga was I believe correct me if I am wrong the 35th but I do know that he was last title holder of this title.

Malietoa Title - Malietoa Tanumafili II was correct me if I am wrong the 31st holder of this Title.
tuluvota

Singapore

#5 Oct 27, 2010
Why Samoans always have a chip on their shoulder in saying they rule this or that??
Who gives a f$u$ck nowadays??
huia

Tonga

#6 Oct 27, 2010
i can smell BS

TOA

“"TUI MANU'A LO'U ALI'I E"”

Since: Jun 09

Compton, CA

#7 Oct 29, 2010
huia wrote:
i can smell BS
Then wash your @ss lol
Buttless

Suva, Fiji

#8 Oct 30, 2010
tuluvota wrote:
Why Samoans always have a chip on their shoulder in saying they rule this or that??
Who gives a f$u$ck nowadays??
Makes me sick of always seeing those overrated Samoans bullsh!tting about they did this, and they did that. Unfortunately it just isn't only Samoans running their mouth. Polynesians have a habit of bullsh!tting. Take a good look at the Polynesians in New Zealand. They are way overrated. Those overrated Polynesians in New Zealand are believed to be "strong" and "good runners" who can play rugby. In reality those overrated Polynesians who are believed to be strong, get overpowered by European and Tri-nations teams and lose almost every match they play against the white teams. Makes one wonder what happens to all the "strong" Polynesians then, since they get overpowered? I don't see Melanesians or Micronesians bullsh!tting like that. Polynesians really have to wake up, and grow up!

Now Polynesians, please don't start jumping around saying that you can do a lot more talking with your fists. Use your brain instead. Fists = still stuck in stone age civilization.
huia

Tonga

#9 Nov 1, 2010
TOA wrote:
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Then wash your @ss lol
lol na its from your mouth..
lol

Seven Hills, Australia

#10 Nov 9, 2010
Buttless wrote:
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Makes me sick of always seeing those overrated Samoans bullsh!tting about they did this, and they did that. Unfortunately it just isn't only Samoans running their mouth. Polynesians have a habit of bullsh!tting. Take a good look at the Polynesians in New Zealand. They are way overrated. Those overrated Polynesians in New Zealand are believed to be "strong" and "good runners" who can play rugby. In reality those overrated Polynesians who are believed to be strong, get overpowered by European and Tri-nations teams and lose almost every match they play against the white teams. Makes one wonder what happens to all the "strong" Polynesians then, since they get overpowered? I don't see Melanesians or Micronesians bullsh!tting like that. Polynesians really have to wake up, and grow up!
Now Polynesians, please don't start jumping around saying that you can do a lot more talking with your fists. Use your brain instead. Fists = still stuck in stone age civilization.
pointless post crackless !!
Sorry

Auckland, New Zealand

#11 Nov 16, 2010
I just want to suggest that you try and see some of the good things the Polynesian people are doing! You have a negative attitude coming through so strong.
Ssd

United States

#12 Nov 19, 2010
Nukuoro is an island outer island of Ponape island which is located in the region Micronesia how did polys manage to end up in nukuoro island? And nauro island is in Micronesia region the people living there or natives are Micronesian Polynesia. Mixtures
Sacred1

Melbourne, Australia

#13 Dec 23, 2010
Buttless wrote:
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Makes me sick of always seeing those overrated Samoans bullsh!tting about they did this, and they did that. Unfortunately it just isn't only Samoans running their mouth. Polynesians have a habit of bullsh!tting. Take a good look at the Polynesians in New Zealand. They are way overrated. Those overrated Polynesians in New Zealand are believed to be "strong" and "good runners" who can play rugby. In reality those overrated Polynesians who are believed to be strong, get overpowered by European and Tri-nations teams and lose almost every match they play against the white teams. Makes one wonder what happens to all the "strong" Polynesians then, since they get overpowered? I don't see Melanesians or Micronesians bullsh!tting like that. Polynesians really have to wake up, and grow up!
Now Polynesians, please don't start jumping around saying that you can do a lot more talking with your fists. Use your brain instead. Fists = still stuck in stone age civilization.
Man, you will always get shit talkers of all kinds no matter. You sound very frustrated. Probably had a bad day, week, or even month leading up to this post. Just my worthless 2 cents to add to your worthless 1 cent.:P
WayFinder

Olympia, WA

#14 Mar 12, 2011
Polynesians yeah were once great navigators...Samoans, well I don't know about that one. They used primitive tools if any according to archeological findings. Anyways Polynesians are just descendants of both Melanesians and Micronesians. In the ancient days it was common sense to sail east then it was to sail west due to the wind directions. Alas the Polynesians lost all their sailing and way finding skills, so it was up to a Micronesian Master Navigator to teach the Polynesians how to sail and find their way around the Pacific without the compass again. Learn your origins and humbled by the fact that your traditions and culture might have been handed down by Us Melanesians and Micronesians and still preserved by Us.
tamasamoamoni

Wahiawa, HI

#15 Mar 15, 2011
WayFinder wrote:
Polynesians yeah were once great navigators...Samoans, well I don't know about that one. They used primitive tools if any according to archeological findings. Anyways Polynesians are just descendants of both Melanesians and Micronesians. In the ancient days it was common sense to sail east then it was to sail west due to the wind directions. Alas the Polynesians lost all their sailing and way finding skills, so it was up to a Micronesian Master Navigator to teach the Polynesians how to sail and find their way around the Pacific without the compass again. Learn your origins and humbled by the fact that your traditions and culture might have been handed down by Us Melanesians and Micronesians and still preserved by Us.
This shows how dumb you are and that you know jack about what you are talking about! What a IDIOT! Melanesians are Melanesians and Micronesians are Micronesians, AND POLYNESIANS ARE POLYNESIANS. Samoa is call, THE CRADLE OF THE PACIFIC, AND THE VIKINGS OF THE PACIFIC! They are many many times more skillful as navigators than the Melanesians and the Micronesians! GO READ MORE HISTORY BOOKS YOU DUMB MONKEY!
WayFinder

Olympia, WA

#16 Mar 24, 2011
tamasamoamoni wrote:
<quoted text>This shows how dumb you are and that you know jack about what you are talking about! What a IDIOT! Melanesians are Melanesians and Micronesians are Micronesians, AND POLYNESIANS ARE POLYNESIANS. Samoa is call, THE CRADLE OF THE PACIFIC, AND THE VIKINGS OF THE PACIFIC! They are many many times more skillful as navigators than the Melanesians and the Micronesians! GO READ MORE HISTORY BOOKS YOU DUMB MONKEY!
Maybe in Ancient Times they were the "vikings of the pacific", but now a days they lost that capability. Even the President of Samoa voyaging Society, Tuatagaloa Joe Ananndale has admitted that Samoan voyaging skills have been lost. Voyaging the open Pacific consisted of Way Finding using the stars...maybe Samoans substituted the stars in the night sky for the blinking open signs at the Mcdonal's drive thru or the open signs of All You Can Stuff Your Face Buffets. I am Scandinavian who was born and raised in Papua New Guinea. My ancestors were true Vikings and Way Finders....If it were that in ancient times my ancestors would have sailed to the Pacific and found Samoa...well put it this way we toppled empires and ravaged their lands with the sword...yeah yeah..sticks and stones may break my bones but my sword would have obliterated your tiny rock in the ocean. It's funny how you use our name to describe your ancestral being...well I am a true descendant of Vikings not a Samoan Knock-Off like you. Anyways I am inspired by true Navigators and the Micronesians still retain their ability to navigate the open ocean with just the stars. I know a lot about history, and know that Samoans are so over rated.

Cheers Alelo
tamasamoamoni

Honolulu, HI

#17 Mar 25, 2011
WayFinder wrote:
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Maybe in Ancient Times they were the "vikings of the pacific", but now a days they lost that capability. Even the President of Samoa voyaging Society, Tuatagaloa Joe Ananndale has admitted that Samoan voyaging skills have been lost. Voyaging the open Pacific consisted of Way Finding using the stars...maybe Samoans substituted the stars in the night sky for the blinking open signs at the Mcdonal's drive thru or the open signs of All You Can Stuff Your Face Buffets. I am Scandinavian who was born and raised in Papua New Guinea. My ancestors were true Vikings and Way Finders....If it were that in ancient times my ancestors would have sailed to the Pacific and found Samoa...well put it this way we toppled empires and ravaged their lands with the sword...yeah yeah..sticks and stones may break my bones but my sword would have obliterated your tiny rock in the ocean. It's funny how you use our name to describe your ancestral being...well I am a true descendant of Vikings not a Samoan Knock-Off like you. Anyways I am inspired by true Navigators and the Micronesians still retain their ability to navigate the open ocean with just the stars. I know a lot about history, and know that Samoans are so over rated.
Cheers Alelo
I thought you died! Well my big talking donkey behind his computer, if you and your donkey ancestors came to my tiny rock, we would have shoved your sword up your A.S.S, ate your hearts, drank your blood, and decorated our fences with your heads. Go back and read the history books, how the Samoans sailed by the stars, winds, currents, sun, birds and so forth, you know nothing about how the Samoans sailed the vast Pacific ocean, the biggest ocean in the world. As far as Macdonald's and the buffet comments go, I suggest you keep them to your self, if you don't want to eat your food thru a straw for the rest of your sorry life.
WayFinder

Olympia, WA

#18 Mar 26, 2011
tamasamoamoni wrote:
<quoted text>I thought you died! Well my big talking donkey behind his computer, if you and your donkey ancestors came to my tiny rock, we would have shoved your sword up your A.S.S, ate your hearts, drank your blood, and decorated our fences with your heads. Go back and read the history books, how the Samoans sailed by the stars, winds, currents, sun, birds and so forth, you know nothing about how the Samoans sailed the vast Pacific ocean, the biggest ocean in the world. As far as Macdonald's and the buffet comments go, I suggest you keep them to your self, if you don't want to eat your food thru a straw for the rest of your sorry life.
Wah wah wah wah....blah blah blah blah....STOP CRYING...little susu poki....you must be one of those HOMO'S oops I mean HAMO-ROIDS that walk around Hotel Street in Honolulu. Never mind the sword in my A.S.S. How's that cock in your A.S.S. feel? Hahaha...You know why you never see a small Samoan...because they get eaten by the big Samoans...lmfao. So Samoans sail by blah blah and blah blah(B.S.) you forgot and also the smell of FOOD. And why all Samoan girls hella FAT, or are they just dudes wearing drag.....like you.

Cheers
ai kae lou alelo
ButtHoleDildoHam o

Olympia, WA

#19 Mar 26, 2011
I LOVE TO SAIL AROUND THE WORLD IN MY LAVA LAVA WITH MY BALLS EXFOLIATING IN THE SALTY PACIFIC BREEZE...USING NOTHING BUT MY GPS(TOM TOM)...I AM A MASTER NAVI(BATOR) OF THE OPEN OCEAN IN SEARCH OF HIGH CHOLESTEROL INDUCED FOODS...AND A SUPER OBESE WHALE FOR MY WIFE....OH WHAT IS THAT I SEE IN THE NIGHT SKY...IT'S A BIRD, NO IT'S PLANE, NO IT'S AN UN-IDENTIFIED FLYING ASSHOLE (UFA) JUST WHAT I LIKE....
tamasamoamoni

Honolulu, HI

#20 Mar 27, 2011
WayFinder wrote:
<quoted text>
Wah wah wah wah....blah blah blah blah....STOP CRYING...little susu poki....you must be one of those HOMO'S oops I mean HAMO-ROIDS that walk around Hotel Street in Honolulu. Never mind the sword in my A.S.S. How's that cock in your A.S.S. feel? Hahaha...You know why you never see a small Samoan...because they get eaten by the big Samoans...lmfao. So Samoans sail by blah blah and blah blah(B.S.) you forgot and also the smell of FOOD. And why all Samoan girls hella FAT, or are they just dudes wearing drag.....like you.
Cheers
ai kae lou alelo
Go wash your mouth with Clorox or acid you filthy dumb monkey! You got no class because you are a maggot from the sewers, you eating dung maggotfrom the toilets of the world. From what you say, I know you are a child molester and a NECROPHILIAC. You would never talk to a Samoan like that, unless you are tired of living. I also can tell you had your a.s.s. kicked around alot by the Samoans, that is why you talk crap about them, HIDING BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER, YOU SCUM OF THE EARTH!

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