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Tagata Folau O le Vasa

Merrylands, Australia

#1 Jun 3, 2012
The Kenewickman the Oldest skeleton ever found in America is a 9000 year old Polynesian.

http://www.nps.gov/archeology/kennewick/powel...

Now another skeleton has been found in Liang Island. The skeleton believed to be 7900 years old remaines of a Polynesian, giving support to the South east asia migration Theory.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/6700701/Ancien...

## THE THEORY ##

It is believed that the Polynesians are a offshoot that evolved from Austronesian peoples from Thailand, became Melanesian and than the Polynesian.

## THE PROBLEM ##

If the Polynesians evolved from Austronesians from thailand 3000 years ago.

-Why is it you have skeletons of Polynesians already existing thousands of years before the so called migration time.
(The oldest being the Kenewick man found in America.)

-How could the Polynesians evolve from melanesians. When there is no genetic link between the two peoples and many melanesian genes in Polynesians is only of recent contact.
pingpong

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#2 Jun 3, 2012
Tagata Folau O le Vasa wrote:
The Kenewickman the Oldest skeleton ever found in America is a 9000 year old Polynesian.
http://www.nps.gov/archeology/kennewick/powel...
Now another skeleton has been found in Liang Island. The skeleton believed to be 7900 years old remaines of a Polynesian, giving support to the South east asia migration Theory.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/6700701/Ancien...
## THE THEORY ##
It is believed that the Polynesians are a offshoot that evolved from Austronesian peoples from Thailand, became Melanesian and than the Polynesian.
## THE PROBLEM ##
If the Polynesians evolved from Austronesians from thailand 3000 years ago.
-Why is it you have skeletons of Polynesians already existing thousands of years before the so called migration time.
(The oldest being the Kenewick man found in America.)
-How could the Polynesians evolve from melanesians. When there is no genetic link between the two peoples and many melanesian genes in Polynesians is only of recent contact.
can you just give it up already i told you your Y and M genes comes from Melanesian and you 20 percent of it. And you Samoan are not pure anymore most of are either German or Chinese. live Polynesia to the real Polynesian in western Polynesia
pingpong

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#3 Jun 3, 2012
sorry for the grammar and spelling
Tagata Folau O le Vasa

Merrylands, Australia

#4 Jun 3, 2012
pingpong wrote:
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can you just give it up already i told you your Y and M genes comes from Melanesian and you 20 percent of it. And you Samoan are not pure anymore most of are either German or Chinese. live Polynesia to the real Polynesian in western Polynesia
Dont worry. Im not a grammar nazi but i hate it when people point that shit out, especially on youtube.

Look i understand your point and it has been something i use to roll with. But theres to many holes in the case. this idea you have that the majority of Samoans are mixed just because we are lighter in skin tone makes me laugh. I didnt want to bomb you out before but since you wanna attack my people heres the stats.

## SAMOAN DEMOGRAPHICS ##
Ethnic groups:
-Samoans: 92.6%
-Euronesians: 7%(people of European and Polynesian descent)
-Europeans: 0.4%
-3000 people of Chinese descent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...

Now lets compare that to Fiji.

## FIJIAN DEMOGRAPHICS ##

Ethnic groups
Fijian 57.3%(predominantly Melanesian with a Polynesian admixture), Indian 37.6%, Rotuman 1.2%, other 3.9%(European, other Pacific Islanders, Chinese)(2007 census)

http://www.indexmundi.com/fiji/demographics_p...

## FIJI: CIA World Factbook demographic statistics ##

Ethnic groups:
-Indigenous Fijian 57.25%(predominantly Melanesian with a Polynesian admixture),
-Indo-Fijian 37.64%, European, other Pacific Islanders, Chinese in Fiji, and other 5.11%.

## LMAO ##

SAMOA HAS 92.7% PURE ISLNADERS WHILE FIJI IS ONLY A MERE 57.25 AND EVEN THAT ISNT PURE MELANESIAN AND FALLING.

So what were you saying about pure again?? LMAO

“E HERE MAI FAKA 'OUTOU”

Since: Apr 12

Kanakaville, Wai'anae

#5 Jun 4, 2012
People Off-Topic. I think the whole "Which race is more pure" Argument is just childish.
Tagata Folau O le Vasa

Merrylands, Australia

#7 Jun 4, 2012
HapaHawaiianKid wrote:
People Off-Topic. I think the whole "Which race is more pure" Argument is just childish.
Everywhere i post a comment this guy keeps trying to stuff his disproved history in my face and everytime i checkmate him, his only comeback is to attack my people or bring up this Samoans arent pure and we dont know what we are talking about bullshit.

So i hit him with the facts and completely bombed him out.

you can plainly see the stats, but i wouldnt be suprised if he brings up another pile of bullshit out of his arse just to doge the truth.

## BACK TO TOPIC ##

Here we have it. It is obvious that polynesians pre-date any migration theory and it only makes one imagine how old our way of life and people really are.
pingpong

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8 Jun 4, 2012
HapaHawaiianKid wrote:
People Off-Topic. I think the whole "Which race is more pure" Argument is just childish.
we must remember brother they think their better then us but we must stick together they act as if they are the first Polynesian which they are not. they all tell pokie lies. i love my Hawaii brothers they have racism towards fijian Tongan Hawaiians and etc
pingpong

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9 Jun 4, 2012
HapaHawaiianKid wrote:
People Off-Topic. I think the whole "Which race is more pure" Argument is just childish.
this people are very childish they go against the laws of history of islanders the words of our people as islanders are finial. The main point of their false history is saying basically they created empires ruled over fiji and Tonga and many more islanders which in real fact we ruled them.
Tagata Folau O le Vasa

Roseville, Australia

#10 Jun 4, 2012
HapaHawaiianKid wrote:
People Off-Topic. I think the whole "Which race is more pure" Argument is just childish.
Like i said Hapa.

Just read the comments above mine, as proof of his tactic of being unable to disprove the facts i bring so he attacks my people.

Just go to every topic on this forum and you will find that i have never attacked or slandered any Polynesian or Other nation.
Hamo_Boiz

United States

#11 Jun 4, 2012
This is all conspiracy

“E HERE MAI FAKA 'OUTOU”

Since: Apr 12

Kanakaville, Wai'anae

#12 Jun 4, 2012
Tagata, Yes Sole you are arguably the only Samoan in this place that i respect. You don't seem Biased or have any Samoan-Supremacy stance. I respect that. But i have to say: I wish all Samoans were like you. Sadly there are Samoans (Which i don't count them as Samoan/Polys) who are rude and have this He 'Akua Au (I am God) thinking.

Pingpong, To some extent i understand where you're coming from... I think we all dealt with those Stupid-Samoans in our lifetime. I understand if that's why you have those feelings towards Samoans. But Tagata doesn't seem like one of those Slobmoanz. You seem to have a Fijian-Supremacy thing to me. In defense of some of their lies.

PS you two should make an account.
pingpongbugger

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13 Jun 5, 2012
HapaHawaiianKid wrote:
Tagata, Yes Sole you are arguably the only Samoan in this place that i respect. You don't seem Biased or have any Samoan-Supremacy stance. I respect that. But i have to say: I wish all Samoans were like you. Sadly there are Samoans (Which i don't count them as Samoan/Polys) who are rude and have this He 'Akua Au (I am God) thinking.
Pingpong, To some extent i understand where you're coming from... I think we all dealt with those Stupid-Samoans in our lifetime. I understand if that's why you have those feelings towards Samoans. But Tagata doesn't seem like one of those Slobmoanz. You seem to have a Fijian-Supremacy thing to me. In defense of some of their lies.
PS you two should make an account.
true i just thought their all the same many i have come across are very rude.

Since: Nov 11

Auckland, New Zealand

#15 Jun 10, 2012
HapaHawaiianKid wrote:
Tagata, Yes Sole you are arguably the only Samoan in this place that i respect. You don't seem Biased or have any Samoan-Supremacy stance. I respect that. But i have to say: I wish all Samoans were like you. Sadly there are Samoans (Which i don't count them as Samoan/Polys) who are rude and have this He 'Akua Au (I am God) thinking.
Pingpong, To some extent i understand where you're coming from... I think we all dealt with those Stupid-Samoans in our lifetime. I understand if that's why you have those feelings towards Samoans. But Tagata doesn't seem like one of those Slobmoanz. You seem to have a Fijian-Supremacy thing to me. In defense of some of their lies.
PS you two should make an account.
Slobmoans? WTF Are you a Crip now? And why do you keep saying Samoans are rude and prideful? Many young Polynesians are prideful and insult other Polys. Its a YOUTH thing not a Samoan one so get it straight.

Since: Nov 11

Auckland, New Zealand

#16 Jun 10, 2012
pingpongbugger wrote:
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true i just thought their all the same many i have come across are very rude.
LMAO @"many i have come accross...". The UK has a TINY Samoan population so don't talk out of your ass.
Poly KING

Belmont, CA

#17 Jun 10, 2012
InCrEaSe_ThE_PeAcE wrote:
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Slobmoans? WTF Are you a Crip now? And why do you keep saying Samoans are rude and prideful? Many young Polynesians are prideful and insult other Polys. Its a YOUTH thing not a Samoan one so get it straight.
I do believe there are more Samoans that rude, have bad manners, and arrogant more than any other Polynesian group. Yes, other Polyz have their share of those kinds, but majority of Samoans have that trait, which actually makes Samoans look uncivilized.

Many non Samoans in the states are literally disgusted by these ghetto Samoans. Trying to Fia Black and bunch of them are wannabes. Even the ones that live in the Projects.. It's like they have this vendetta or personal thing to out do the next Samoan or Tongan. All the while, it's the Tongans living a higher standard of living than Samoans in general.

As I've said before,'GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE and talk to little man" LOL

sorry, just keeping it real from a Bay Area, California unbiased true point of view. Malo!!
Nesian Mystik

Auckland, New Zealand

#18 Jun 10, 2012
Man shut up with the hating...and get on with the forum...

Topic: Ancient Polynesian:

First if you really pay attention to this topics real meaning you all would have picked up the key word POLYNESIAN now from reading all your posts with Thailand, Fiji and melanesian mentioned in a forum for discussing ancient polynesians is like saying ancient eropeans are from Africa which is not neccessary to go that far back in history... if you all carry on with that soon you all will be debating on whether the egg came first or the chicken...Concentrate onn ANCIENT POLYNESIA not ancient southeast asia Duh!!!

Typical Islanders you bring a topic of good dicussion and 5 minutes into it you get racial slurs and gang name mentioned! SOLE!!
Nesian Mystik

Auckland, New Zealand

#19 Jun 11, 2012
Topic: ANCIENT POLYNESIANS

O.K polynesia are all island incompassed by the polynesian triangle right! As far north as Hawaii as far east as easter island and as far south west as Aotearoa agree! In case you dont know FIJI and THAILAND are not in that polynesian triangle so there for are not part of ancient polynesia. Now with that we have narrowed our chances down to fewer nations yes!Now lets start with the most recent established polynesian island and go backwards til we get to the first nation or nations that all polynesians derived from; therefore finding out where ancient polynesia is - Make Sense!

OK from my own researching but hey just correct me if I am wrong.

Maoris in Aotearoa claim to have ancestry links to Hawaii and the cook islands.

Hawaiians are have close ties with the tahitians and the tahitians have accepted to have come from the islands in the west called Hamoa (Samoa) from the specific island of of Havaii (Savaii) if you did not know those islands are called Samoa and one the two Islands of Samoa are Upolu and Savaii. Now Samoans do not know where they came from all they know is that the came from the East being South East Asia.

Niueans agree on tongan being their most likely have migrated from and tokelauns relunctantly acknowledge that Samoa is where they orginated from.

Now Tongans will probably hate this fact but it is true that their monarchy have records of this and all tongans know. In ancient times the prince of tonga was to marry a chiefs daughter from Samoa to keep the polynesian blood strong in their monarchy this tradition carried on for a century or two that at one time a tongan prince was more samoan than tongan. This tradition was for to keep the blood of the tongan head of state 100% polynesian.

Now to narrow it down ancient polynesians are Samoans, Tongans, Tahitians but ancient of those three are the SAMOA ISLANDS!

Its like telling european that they originated from Africa or Telling Amreicans that they are orginated from England and so forth.

So thats my 2 cents in this forum! Cheers

ToFa Soifua
Nesian Mystik

Auckland, New Zealand

#20 Jun 11, 2012
My bad on the spelling...a true Islander right..LOL

“E HERE MAI FAKA 'OUTOU”

Since: Apr 12

Kanakaville, Wai'anae

#21 Jun 11, 2012
InCrEaSe_ThE_PeAcE wrote:
<quoted text>
Slobmoans? WTF Are you a Crip now? And why do you keep saying Samoans are rude and prideful? Many young Polynesians are prideful and insult other Polys. Its a YOUTH thing not a Samoan one so get it straight.
Lol no i ain't in no stupid gang. I'm Hawaiian, we don't do that gay shit. I said SLOBMOANZ are rude can you read ?!?
SAMOAN & SLOBMOAN are two diferrent things FYI.

And uhhh i have to disagree. You will never see out of the blue a Hawaiian Teen go "Man, fuck them Samoans and Tongans" And blah-blah-blah. NEVER, EVER, EVER. Most of us have Extended Fam who are or are Part Samoan or Tongan. You will however see us Diss them American-"Polys" cause they just talk alotta shit. When 90% of those fucks never stepped foot on an island in their life. We if anything, just diss those.

No offense to the good American-Poly People.

Since: Nov 11

Auckland, New Zealand

#22 Jun 11, 2012
Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>I do believe there are more Samoans that rude, have bad manners, and arrogant more than any other Polynesian group. Yes, other Polyz have their share of those kinds, but majority of Samoans have that trait, which actually makes Samoans look uncivilized.
Many non Samoans in the states are literally disgusted by these ghetto Samoans. Trying to Fia Black and bunch of them are wannabes. Even the ones that live in the Projects.. It's like they have this vendetta or personal thing to out do the next Samoan or Tongan. All the while, it's the Tongans living a higher standard of living than Samoans in general.
As I've said before,'GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE and talk to little man" LOL
sorry, just keeping it real from a Bay Area, California unbiased true point of view. Malo!!
LMAO Like anyone gives a shit about your opinion. For some reason you're preoccupied with Samoan problems. Is it some pathetic attempt to divert attention away from your own problems? Middle-aged virgin with a massive inferiority complex ahahahahaha. And LMAO @"Tongans living a higher standard of living...". That crap came up before was proved to be B.S. like all your other little arguments. Thats right I still remember. But keep trying though. The funniest thing was at the end of that post you said UNBIASED. LOL Who are you kidding?:)

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