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<quoted text> more like help u with the tweezers trying to yank the ingrown out hahaha
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The Samoan islands were probably settled initially by Fijians or Tongans, and many ancient Samoan legends have Fijian kings and princesses as their heroes. the earliest known evidence of human occupation in the islands is the site of a Lapita village, partially submerged in the lagoon at Mulifanua on the island of 'Upolu. Carbon tests have tentatively dated the site at 1000 BC. Undecorated pottery, known as Polynesian plainware, of a comparable age has been found at Aoa on the island of Tutuila and at Tolaga on the island of Ofu.
At numerous other sites on 'Upolu, Savai'i and Tutuila (and to a lesser extent on Manono and ta'u), archaeologists have discovered some odd platforms that have stone protrusions radiating from their bases, which have been dubbed 'star mounds', information gathered from oral traditions and archaeological studies suggests that these structures were used in the ancient sport of pigeon-snaring. On Savai'i, near the village of Palauli, is the pyramid of Pulemelei, the largest ancient structure in the Pacific, and there seems to be no tradition or speculation surrounding it. Evidence suggests that in ancient times many more Samoan settlements were located inland in the valleys and on hillsides and that the increase in coastal settlement was due to European influence and trade.

In AD 950 warriors from Tonga established rule on Savai'i, the island nearest to Tonga, then moved on to 'Upolu.
http://www.janesoceania.com/samoa_aboutsamoa/ ...

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fk you your our lap dog dog tonga/fisi are pure race. Fijian and Tonga creates pure fijian and Tongan full blood tonga/fisi.
All hail tonga/fisi All hail Tonga/fisi fiji and tonga one country one land Palotu our country our people raise and glory to our 7 empires.
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The Samoan islands were probably settled initially by Fijians or Tongans, and many ancient Samoan legends have Fijian kings and princesses as their heroes. the earliest known evidence of human occupation in the islands is the site of a Lapita village, partially submerged in the lagoon at Mulifanua on the island of 'Upolu. Carbon tests have tentatively dated the site at 1000 BC. Undecorated pottery, known as Polynesian plainware, of a comparable age has been found at Aoa on the island of Tutuila and at Tolaga on the island of Ofu.
At numerous other sites on 'Upolu, Savai'i and Tutuila (and to a lesser extent on Manono and ta'u), archaeologists have discovered some odd platforms that have stone protrusions radiating from their bases, which have been dubbed 'star mounds', information gathered from oral traditions and archaeological studies suggests that these structures were used in the ancient sport of pigeon-snaring. On Savai'i, near the village of Palauli, is the pyramid of Pulemelei, the largest ancient structure in the Pacific, and there seems to be no tradition or speculation surrounding it. Evidence suggests that in ancient times many more Samoan settlements were located inland in the valleys and on hillsides and that the increase in coastal settlement was due to European influence and trade.
In AD 950 warriors from Tonga established rule on Savai'i, the island nearest to Tonga, then moved on to 'Upolu.
http://www.janesoceania.com/samoa_aboutsamoa/ ...
Alllllllll hail tonga/fisi
LOL Sorry dingdong, but that website is a tourism site and has no sources or references. It's easily trumped by more reliable sites like this one...

"Dr. Kramer 8 says that the earliest kings of Manu'a bore the title of Tuimanu'a ma Samoa'atoa, king of Manu'a and All Samoa, and that “all” indicated, not only Samoa, but surrounding islands as well, such as Tonga, Fiji, Raro-tonga, Tahiti, who all brought tribute to the Tui Manu'a. Especially prominent in the Samoan sagas is Fitiaumua, a great conqueror, who 'was said to come from the east, was a great warrior, conquered at Fiji, and in his lust for conquest came to Samoa. He subdued all the leeward islands of the group, reached Manu'a and there he dwelt.'"

"Dr. Kramer's conclusion from the Samoan evidence is that by about the year 1100 the pre-eminence of Manu'a in Samoa had come to an end, and that, moreover, the active traffic that had subsisted between Samoa and the neighbouring groups was diminishing. A not improbable picture of this part of the Pacific about a thousand years ago seems to be a Polynesian people inhabiting Samoa, Tonga, part of Fiji, and scattered islands, such as Uvea, Niua Fo'ou, and Niua Toputapu. The whole of Fiji may have been occupied by the Polynesians. These people were perhaps more nearly homogeneous than the corresponding populations of today."

As you can see at the bottom, there are many references to Pacific scholars and historians. The author of the book himself is a scholar. So in the words of your father, "Thank you, come again!" LMAO...

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Tonga for the Win, Samoa will be blown to kingdom come! Haha
And I thought dingdong was the one loving the Tongan tenga in her mouth LMAO...

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LOL Sorry dingdong, but that website is a tourism site and has no sources or references. It's easily trumped by more reliable sites like this one...
"Dr. Kramer 8 says that the earliest kings of Manu'a bore the title of Tuimanu'a ma Samoa'atoa, king of Manu'a and All Samoa, and that “all” indicated, not only Samoa, but surrounding islands as well, such as Tonga, Fiji, Raro-tonga, Tahiti, who all brought tribute to the Tui Manu'a. Especially prominent in the Samoan sagas is Fitiaumua, a great conqueror, who 'was said to come from the east, was a great warrior, conquered at Fiji, and in his lust for conquest came to Samoa. He subdued all the leeward islands of the group, reached Manu'a and there he dwelt.'"
"Dr. Kramer's conclusion from the Samoan evidence is that by about the year 1100 the pre-eminence of Manu'a in Samoa had come to an end, and that, moreover, the active traffic that had subsisted between Samoa and the neighbouring groups was diminishing. A not improbable picture of this part of the Pacific about a thousand years ago seems to be a Polynesian people inhabiting Samoa, Tonga, part of Fiji, and scattered islands, such as Uvea, Niua Fo'ou, and Niua Toputapu. The whole of Fiji may have been occupied by the Polynesians. These people were perhaps more nearly homogeneous than the corresponding populations of today."
As you can see at the bottom, there are many references to Pacific scholars and historians. The author of the book himself is a scholar. So in the words of your father, "Thank you, come again!" LMAO...
funny, you disregarded all the Samoan oral traditions that corroborate with Tongan oral history, just so you can go with Dr. Kramer's wild imagination, a non Samoan/Tongan.. LOL hahaha wadda dumb ufa.. hahaha

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<quoted text>funny, you disregarded all the Samoan oral traditions that corroborate with Tongan oral history, just so you can go with Dr. Kramer's wild imagination, a non Samoan/Tongan.. LOL hahaha wadda dumb ufa.. hahaha
I didn't disregard any oral tradition, I only disregarded that tourism website. "just so you can go with Dr. Kramer's wild imagination, a non Samoan/Tongan.."

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/tonga/T2D3ER...

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I didn't disregard any oral tradition, I only disregarded that tourism website. "just so you can go with Dr. Kramer's wild imagination, a non Samoan/Tongan.."
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/tonga/T2D3ER...
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funny, how all your references of Samoan history, are selective excerpts off of non Samoan articles/essays/books... even use some Tongan references but take a few paragraphs and use it out of context. What happen to the Samoan elders and your own Samoan archives? lmao hahaha gimme a break.. hahaha

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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>funny, you disregarded all the Samoan oral traditions that corroborate with Tongan oral history, just so you can go with Dr. Kramer's wild imagination, a non Samoan/Tongan.. LOL hahaha wadda dumb ufa.. hahaha
Sorry Mr. Polo, but you yourself admitted that you're only here to 'rile' us up. Which means you don't care about discussing history in a rational manner at all. Don't you hate it when your words come back to haunt you?? LMAO...

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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>funny, how all your references of Samoan history, are selective excerpts off of non Samoan articles/essays/books... even use some Tongan references but take a few paragraphs and use it out of context. What happen to the Samoan elders and your own Samoan archives? lmao hahaha gimme a break.. hahaha
Blah blah blah... you say things like "out of context" but don't give any examples. If you haven't already noticed, I always post quotes AND a link to the full original text. Just because some scholar not Polynesian doesn't make them any less reliable, which you already know.

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Blah blah blah... you say things like "out of context" but don't give any examples. If you haven't already noticed, I always post quotes AND a link to the full original text. Just because some scholar not Polynesian doesn't make them any less reliable, which you already know.
you're for some validation. You keep asking the same questions in your mind and retyping all kinds of scenarios, phrases, etc on google hoping to find one sucker out there that would sympathize or misinterpret Samoan history in Samoa's favor.. But it's just not there. You're not satisfied with the truth your elders tell you, you're not satisfied with the old Samoan oral traditions that don't meet up with your fantasy hopefuls, and then here you are..

ILP, your links mean jack shiett.. If your grandma never heard of it, then most likely, it never happened. Tu'i Manu'a is new thing, just created by today's Samoan prideful generation.. As we are in this age of technology and communications bring the world together and making it smaller then ever, you Samoan quickly find out about an upsetting and disappointing history, thus losing your pride.

That is how little baby TOA's and ILP's are created. False pride hahaha

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Poly KING wrote:
<quoted text>you're for some validation. You keep asking the same questions in your mind and retyping all kinds of scenarios, phrases, etc on google hoping to find one sucker out there that would sympathize or misinterpret Samoan history in Samoa's favor.. But it's just not there. You're not satisfied with the truth your elders tell you, you're not satisfied with the old Samoan oral traditions that don't meet up with your fantasy hopefuls, and then here you are..
ILP, your links mean jack shiett.. If your grandma never heard of it, then most likely, it never happened. Tu'i Manu'a is new thing, just created by today's Samoan prideful generation.. As we are in this age of technology and communications bring the world together and making it smaller then ever, you Samoan quickly find out about an upsetting and disappointing history, thus losing your pride.
That is how little baby TOA's and ILP's are created. False pride hahaha
My links are what keep you up at night Polo. Evidence is key in a historical. You're mad that you have jack sh#t so you curse and spit like an angry snake. You shout out complete nonsense like grandparents being more reliable than historians/scholars (LMAO). All you have are dry insults, that's all. At least I can back myself up. You on the other hand... LOL

As for my grandma, she aint here no more. But my grandpa has heard of the Tui Manu'a - he's a high chief so he's very familiar with Samoan history. So you jumped the gun my friend ahahaha...

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My links are what keep you up at night Polo. Evidence is key in a historical. You're mad that you have jack sh#t so you curse and spit like an angry snake. You shout out complete nonsense like grandparents being more reliable than historians/scholars (LMAO). All you have are dry insults, that's all. At least I can back myself up. You on the other hand... LOL
As for my grandma, she aint here no more. But my grandpa has heard of the Tui Manu'a - he's a high chief so he's very familiar with Samoan history. So you jumped the gun my friend ahahaha...
wrong again and lying. You act so proud of your Samoan, yet you don't take the real stories from the Samoans. that is pretty weird.
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LOL Sorry dingdong, but that website is a tourism site and has no sources or references. It's easily trumped by more reliable sites like this one...
"Dr. Kramer 8 says that the earliest kings of Manu'a bore the title of Tuimanu'a ma Samoa'atoa, king of Manu'a and All Samoa, and that “all” indicated, not only Samoa, but surrounding islands as well, such as Tonga, Fiji, Raro-tonga, Tahiti, who all brought tribute to the Tui Manu'a. Especially prominent in the Samoan sagas is Fitiaumua, a great conqueror, who 'was said to come from the east, was a great warrior, conquered at Fiji, and in his lust for conquest came to Samoa. He subdued all the leeward islands of the group, reached Manu'a and there he dwelt.'"
"Dr. Kramer's conclusion from the Samoan evidence is that by about the year 1100 the pre-eminence of Manu'a in Samoa had come to an end, and that, moreover, the active traffic that had subsisted between Samoa and the neighbouring groups was diminishing. A not improbable picture of this part of the Pacific about a thousand years ago seems to be a Polynesian people inhabiting Samoa, Tonga, part of Fiji, and scattered islands, such as Uvea, Niua Fo'ou, and Niua Toputapu. The whole of Fiji may have been occupied by the Polynesians. These people were perhaps more nearly homogeneous than the corresponding populations of today."
As you can see at the bottom, there are many references to Pacific scholars and historians. The author of the book himself is a scholar. So in the words of your father, "Thank you, come again!" LMAO...
slaves will always be slaves.

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LOL Sorry dingdong, but that website is a tourism site and has no sources or references. It's easily trumped by more reliable sites like this one...
"Dr. Kramer 8 says that the earliest kings of Manu'a bore the title of Tuimanu'a ma Samoa'atoa, king of Manu'a and All Samoa, and that “all” indicated, not only Samoa, but surrounding islands as well, such as Tonga, Fiji, Raro-tonga, Tahiti, who all brought tribute to the Tui Manu'a. Especially prominent in the Samoan sagas is Fitiaumua, a great conqueror, who 'was said to come from the east, was a great warrior, conquered at Fiji, and in his lust for conquest came to Samoa. He subdued all the leeward islands of the group, reached Manu'a and there he dwelt.'"
"Dr. Kramer's conclusion from the Samoan evidence is that by about the year 1100 the pre-eminence of Manu'a in Samoa had come to an end, and that, moreover, the active traffic that had subsisted between Samoa and the neighbouring groups was diminishing. A not improbable picture of this part of the Pacific about a thousand years ago seems to be a Polynesian people inhabiting Samoa, Tonga, part of Fiji, and scattered islands, such as Uvea, Niua Fo'ou, and Niua Toputapu. The whole of Fiji may have been occupied by the Polynesians. These people were perhaps more nearly homogeneous than the corresponding populations of today."
As you can see at the bottom, there are many references to Pacific scholars and historians. The author of the book himself is a scholar. So in the words of your father, "Thank you, come again!" LMAO...
Again with this tui manure...'Tui Manure, scuk my left nut' ya fake gefe. Haha.

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Kava Farmer
Stop kissing the Tongans @sses you make Fijians look like b!tches everytime you post. Again its not our fault Fiji never could never really defeat the Tongans hence Fiji was signed over to Britain in fear of Ma'afu taking over. Samoa on the other hand is well known for its Victory over Tui Tonga and the Malietoa title is proof of that great victory.
* Here's the thing my Melanesian brother the victory the Samoans had over Tui Tonga was so great that it started a new Royal Line known.as the great warrior line of Chiefs (Malietoa). After the defeat of Tui Tonga in Samoa no retalliation or revenge by the Tongans took place for they accepted the fact that they lost unlike many Tongans today who try and twist the story.
The Forgotten War of Samoa & Tonga.
* The only other war that took place between Tonga and Samoa took place later on Tongan soil. Tui Tonga Puipuifatu (Samoan/Tongan) lived in Samoa and gathered a few Samoan Warriors and successfully invaded Tonga from Samoa where they established themselves in Vava'u. They were lead by a fierce Samoan Warrior named ALAMAFAO who wrecked havoc in Tonga but he was later defeated by a Tui Haatakalaua's son forcing Tui Tonga Puipuifatu and the rest of the Samoan Warriors to retreat back to Samoa.(THIS WAR IS WELL KNOWN IN VAVA'U TONGA TRADITIONS).
Be back later.
You own comments are your demise mr know it not! Leave fiji out, this is about toga and samoa...or do you need to bring fiji into it? Coz we'l be more than happy to join in (:

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<quoted text>wrong again and lying. You act so proud of your Samoan, yet you don't take the real stories from the Samoans. that is pretty weird.
I already told you that my grandpa has already heard of Tui Manu'a. So your little plan backfired, not my fault.

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Again with this tui manure...'Tui Manure, scuk my left nut' ya fake gefe. Haha.
Don't make me tell your Indian masters how disrespectful you're being LMAO.
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Dec 4, 2012
 
You tengans just be happy your samoan kings/rulers ended slavery...i bet they stay up late at night in the palace and make fun of you commoners in that chiefly language that only royals speak..samoan...lol
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You own comments are your demise mr know it not! Leave fiji out, this is about toga and samoa...or do you need to bring fiji into it? Coz we'l be more than happy to join in (:
this aint a homo threesome fiti ceremony u poofter haha, join in , after all u all look the same apes , u just have the red dot on forehead stamp hindi hahaha

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