Thank you brave red army soldiers.. f...
Matti

Turenki, Finland

#4019 Jun 14, 2011
ole wrote:
<quoted text>what about Lapland in Finland then? Do you know that all Finland did belong to saami people in the past?- you are newcommers in the land that you claim to be yours, so before accusing others look at yourself.
My comment was for Stephanya!
BTW Russia has been the second largest land capturer after Great Britain.
The main difference between the two imperialistic countries is that Great Britain has given independency to most of the territories she captured during the last 500 years.
Russia has not been as generous as Britain and is still occupying most of the territories she occupied simultaneously with Britain.
Actually Russia is still today a colonialistic state serving the interest of Moscow only.
ole

Saint Petersburg, Russia

#4020 Jun 14, 2011
Matti wrote:
<quoted text>
My comment was for Stephanya!
BTW Russia has been the second largest land capturer after Great Britain.
The main difference between the two imperialistic countries is that Great Britain has given independency to most of the territories she captured during the last 500 years.
Russia has not been as generous as Britain and is still occupying most of the territories she occupied simultaneously with Britain.
Actually Russia is still today a colonialistic state serving the interest of Moscow only.
the same like Finland in saami lands of Lapland, isn't it?
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4021 Jun 14, 2011
ole wrote:
<quoted text>what about Lapland in Finland then? Do you know that all Finland did belong to saami people in the past?- you are newcommers in the land that you claim to be yours, so before accusing others look at yourself.
Only reason why finns and germans did not end the history of Saint Petersburg.

Read it and weap loser:

"Hitler had ordered that units in other parts of the Russian campaign be moved to Moscow - General Hoepner's IV Panzer group had been moved from Leningrad - hence why the Germans did not have sufficient men to launch an attack on the city and why it had to be besieged. For the attack, Bock had at his disposal 1 million men, 1,700 tanks, 19,500 artillery guns and 950 combat aircraft - 50% of all the German men in Russia, 75% of all the tanks and 33% of all the planes."

source: historylearningsite.co.uk

Had those troops been at Tikhvin.:)
ole

Saint Petersburg, Russia

#4022 Jun 14, 2011
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Only reason why finns and germans did not end the history of Saint Petersburg.
Read it and weap loser:
"Hitler had ordered that units in other parts of the Russian campaign be moved to Moscow - General Hoepner's IV Panzer group had been moved from Leningrad - hence why the Germans did not have sufficient men to launch an attack on the city and why it had to be besieged. For the attack, Bock had at his disposal 1 million men, 1,700 tanks, 19,500 artillery guns and 950 combat aircraft - 50% of all the German men in Russia, 75% of all the tanks and 33% of all the planes."
source: historylearningsite.co.uk
Had those troops been at Tikhvin.:)
only reason why Russians have not exterminated you all in 1945 was that they were much more compassionate then you...One can only imagine your behaviour had those troops been at place

Think about what Russians might have done to you, but decided to forgive....and weep, loser
Matti

Turenki, Finland

#4023 Jun 14, 2011
ole wrote:
<quoted text>only reason why Russians have not exterminated you all in 1945 was that they were much more compassionate then you...One can only imagine your behaviour had those troops been at place
Think about what Russians might have done to you, but decided to forgive....and weep, loser
Russia started the war (in WW2) against Finland using Molotow Ribbentrop pact just like Germany started the war against Poland and Russia gladly joined!
And now you without shame insist that Finland started the war against Russia. The same war you started against us 1939 continued in the later episodes of WW2 1941 which you call "Patriotic" war. The war in Europe was started by Hitler and Stalin, not by Finland which managed to stay a democratic country also during the whole WW2. During the same period Russia and Germany were totalitarian undemocratic countries without any civil rights and were run by evil "brothers" Stalin and Hitler.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4024 Jun 14, 2011
ole wrote:
<quoted text>only reason why Russians have not exterminated you all in 1945 was that they were much more compassionate then you...One can only imagine your behaviour had those troops been at place
Think about what Russians might have done to you, but decided to forgive....and weep, loser
Leningrad thing was not on our hands. Fact of the matter is that Adolf would have done a huge favour for everybody by chosing Leningrad as his main target instead of Moscow and Kiev. Moscows far away from here but Saint pete is only seven hours away from where are now.

But I think with the new trains you can get their alot faster. You guys want the russian border to be in Oslo just like you always have wanted. At least admit it.

As for 1945 you guys had tried to violate the deal about Norway and Denmark going to the brits and Finland and Sweden staying independent than americans would have nuked Leningrad or what was left of it.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4025 Jun 14, 2011
Matti wrote:
<quoted text>
Russia started the war (in WW2) against Finland using Molotow Ribbentrop pact just like Germany started the war against Poland and Russia gladly joined!
And now you without shame insist that Finland started the war against Russia. The same war you started against us 1939 continued in the later episodes of WW2 1941 which you call "Patriotic" war. The war in Europe was started by Hitler and Stalin, not by Finland which managed to stay a democratic country also during the whole WW2. During the same period Russia and Germany were totalitarian undemocratic countries without any civil rights and were run by evil "brothers" Stalin and Hitler.
If not for us these idiots would have never come up with T-34 and KV-1. It was the winter war that showed them how outdated T-26 was. But thats not the point. Brits sold this bastards the Vickers 6-ton tank which they turned into T-26 and used it to kill innocent people. Brits are as guilty as the russians.

I hope jews like Berezovsky and Abramovich rob these two criminal nations blind. Good luck to Boris and Roman for doing that if they can!
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4026 Jun 14, 2011
I think it is hillarious how guys likie Chuikov learned from us how to use artilery and Molotov cocktails in the Winter.

The bastard was at Suomussalmi for Christ sake. These russian peasants learned very well and Hitler was only partially right when he said in 1941 that USSR was not ready to fight Germany and had inferior weapons.

The point is that russians had just enough exprience and modern weapons to stop the german advance but one wonders would this have been enough if Hitler had decided to attack Leningrad first and than Moscow.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4027 Jun 14, 2011
But I admit that russians learned how to make tanks lest vunerable to Molotov cocktails or artilery.

The krauts had the entire 30s to note this lesson. Chuikov destroyed plenty of german tanks with Molotov cocktails when he first lured these freaks at close range.

But its not Paulus and Hoths fault. Its Hitlers who thought every german weapon and tactic was unbeatable.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4028 Jun 14, 2011
"less vunerable"

Also I think another lesson russians learned was the importance of ski troops.
ole

Saint Petersburg, Russia

#4029 Jun 14, 2011
Matti wrote:
<quoted text>
Russia started the war (in WW2) against Finland using Molotow Ribbentrop pact just like Germany started the war against Poland and Russia gladly joined!
And now you without shame insist that Finland started the war against Russia. The same war you started against us 1939 continued in the later episodes of WW2 1941 which you call "Patriotic" war. The war in Europe was started by Hitler and Stalin, not by Finland which managed to stay a democratic country also during the whole WW2. During the same period Russia and Germany were totalitarian undemocratic countries without any civil rights and were run by evil "brothers" Stalin and Hitler.
pretty convenient to respond to the post about Finland's occupation of Lapland and living on saami lands with reflections of what did commie regime of Stalin did to you, isn't it, matti-patti?
Matti

Turenki, Finland

#4030 Jun 15, 2011
ole wrote:
<quoted text> pretty convenient to respond to the post about Finland's occupation of Lapland and living on saami lands with reflections of what did commie regime of Stalin did to you, isn't it, matti-patti?
The Lapps today have better rights to the land and water of Lappland than the Finns do.
Norwegians, Swedes and Russians did divide Lappland for many hundred years ago. Today Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia should let Lapps to move over borders without any restrictions. As you know Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia today "occupy" the territory where Lapps used to live free for 1000 years ago.
alfa

Murmansk, Russia

#4031 Jun 15, 2011
Matti wrote:
<quoted text>
The Lapps today have better rights to the land and water of Lappland than the Finns do.
Norwegians, Swedes and Russians did divide Lappland for many hundred years ago. Today Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia should let Lapps to move over borders without any restrictions. As you know Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia today "occupy" the territory where Lapps used to live free for 1000 years ago.
you know what we want, we want a whole independent lapp nation, we're oppressed, no one speak our language no more, there are only 2 ter saami speakers, we want to be independent and united.
alfa

Murmansk, Russia

#4032 Jun 15, 2011
and thank you you stupid F#@%s f@@@g army for liberating my home peaccam, if it wasnt for you id be living a much better life in finland, now i cant even pronounce the name right! thanksalot
Matti

Turenki, Finland

#4033 Jun 15, 2011
alfa wrote:
<quoted text>
you know what we want, we want a whole independent lapp nation, we're oppressed, no one speak our language no more, there are only 2 ter saami speakers, we want to be independent and united.
Most Lapps wanted to emigrate out of Stalins's empire at the end of WW2.
All native non Russian speakers in Russia have been and are still today second class citizens.
Russia is still today a colonial empire serving only the interests of Moscow and Great Russians.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#4034 Jun 15, 2011
ole wrote:
<quoted text> pretty convenient to respond to the post about Finland's occupation of Lapland and living on saami lands with reflections of what did commie regime of Stalin did to you, isn't it, matti-patti?
We occupied nothing. But there is one thing you saint petersburgians can never take away from me. When your city was founded and Peter I humiliated the swedish cowards my towns castle was the last to surrendered.

Cossacks sieged it for several months yet it refused to surrender.

So we have showed that we will fight back. Anyway why should saint petersburgians and finns fight. The working class and peasants in both places were very similar as was the nobility.

I never understood why you guys ever since the time of Peter I tried to attack and punnish us when Stockholm was your true enemy like it had been since the days of Birger Jarl.

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#4035 Jul 18, 2013
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Only reason why finns and germans did not end the history of Saint Petersburg.

Read it and weap loser:

"Hitler had ordered that units in other parts of the Russian campaign be moved to Moscow - General Hoepner's IV Panzer group had been moved from Leningrad - hence why the Germans did not have sufficient men to launch an attack on the city and why it had to be besieged. For the attack, Bock had at his disposal 1 million men, 1,700 tanks, 19,500 artillery guns and 950 combat aircraft - 50% of all the German men in Russia, 75% of all the tanks and 33% of all the planes."

source: historylearningsite.co.uk

Had those troops been at Tikhvin.:)
In other words the nazis did not have the equipment or the manpower to compete with the red army? That was the reason for their failure?
Donald

Toronto, Canada

#4036 Jul 19, 2013
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words the nazis did not have the equipment or the manpower to compete with the red army? That was the reason for their failure?
The Nazis lost due to Hitler's inept military leadership (Stalin allowed his generals much greater latitude) and the delivery of American equioment that proved invaluable in this campaign across vast stretches of land. Supply trucks and communications equipment were two major US-supplied items that gave the Red Army a decided tactical advantage.

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#4037 Jul 19, 2013
Donald wrote:
<quoted text>The Nazis lost due to Hitler's inept military leadership (Stalin allowed his generals much greater latitude) and the delivery of American equioment that proved invaluable in this campaign across vast stretches of land. Supply trucks and communications equipment were two major US-supplied items that gave the Red Army a decided tactical advantage.
Stalin allowed his generals much greater latitude? Really? I thought most of them were killed off before the nazis even invaded.

The tactical advantage came when Stalin pulled all his troops from Asia into the European war. No reason to keep them in place to defend against an attack from Japan which was obviously not coming.
Pro Ukraine

London, UK

#4038 Jul 19, 2013
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words the nazis did not have the equipment or the manpower to compete with the red army? That was the reason for their failure?
Why are you replying to a message Dr Phil posted two years ago? You really are missing him aren't you?:-)

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