Free speech in Russia Today Banned

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Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#1 Jun 3, 2013
I tried to comment in Russia Today article:
"Serbia will never lose Kosovo, but in Pristina I’m not President – Serbia’s leader to RT"

http://rt.com/op-edge/serbia-kosovo-president...

Notwithstanding I respected all posting rules, My Comments where deleted.

In essence what I wrote is:
Kosova is not S.Ossetia, Abkhasia or ridiculouse Republic of Transnistria (a model for N.Mitrovica in Kosova)

Kosova is an reality different from what is believed in Belgrade and confirmed internationally by nearly 100 countries and counting more.

Since: Apr 13

Podolsk, Russia

#2 Jun 3, 2013
For Russia, Serbia and some other countries what think those 100 countries doesn`t cost a shit.
Kosovo is illegally stolen Serbian land.
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#3 Jun 3, 2013
It is or not, is an other argument. I didn't break any rule in my comment and "Russia Today", pretending to encourage the free speech, cancelled my comments without any explanation.

It is evident and I would not expect from Russia to recognize Kosova Independence. Actually it is supporting the recognition of Transnistria, S. Ossetia and Abkhazia. Fair enough considering the huge number of recognition this villages got from "Worthy" countries :)

Seems Russia Today (and Yesterday) got a special approach to the Freedom of Speech, as much successful as the diplomatic approach to the new countries recognition.

Good of you ;)

“Hello. America? It's me.”

Since: Oct 12

Rostov-na-Donu

#4 Jun 3, 2013
Topix banned all my links. In America free speech is banned too?=) Do not panic, friend. It is internet, baby, it's internet...
Voltaire

United States

#5 Jun 3, 2013
Al-berto wrote:
Kosova is not S.Ossetia, Abkhasia or ridiculouse Republic of Transnistria (a model for N.Mitrovica in Kosova)
Au contraire, ma petite.

They are exactly the same.
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#6 Jun 3, 2013
Voltaire wrote:
<quoted text>
Au contraire, ma petite.
They are exactly the same.
:) Peut etre que j'ai tort et vous avez droit. Mais il e necesaire que vous presenter votre arguments, "joyeux professeur" :)

However the Argument is totally different. It is about the Free speech and not about some nuty adolescents trying to show up their "polyglote" skills :)

N'est pas "Joyeux professer Voltaire"?
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#7 Jun 3, 2013
Leonid-Rostow wrote:
Topix banned all my links. In America free speech is banned too?=) Do not panic, friend. It is internet, baby, it's internet...
Dear Rostov! I'm been in topix for many years (at least 3 yrs) and never my or my counterparts comments where deleted.

Practically some comments from some complacent adolescents who does not meet the criteria of a normal communication, forget what the discussion is about and jump to write before thinking, yes, they should really be banned but apparently Topix is "too busy" to do that.

“Hello. America? It's me.”

Since: Oct 12

Rostov-na-Donu

#9 Jun 4, 2013
Al-berto wrote:
<quoted text>Dear Rostov! I'm been in topix for many years (at least 3 yrs) and never my or my counterparts comments where deleted.
Practically some comments from some complacent adolescents who does not meet the criteria of a normal communication, forget what the discussion is about and jump to write before thinking, yes, they should really be banned but apparently Topix is "too busy" to do that.
I'm Leonid, Rostov is my city.=)) You see my post #8 ?
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#10 Jun 4, 2013
Leonid-Rostow wrote:
<quoted text>I'm Leonid, Rostov is my city.=)) You see my post #8 ?
Dear Leonid! I'm really surprised as it never did happend to me. This means you have one more reason to join my incentive!

If you've been banned for your opinions and not for breaking ethics rules of a fair communication, we still on the same boat.

Truly it did never happend to me in topix ever before.

“Hello. America? It's me.”

Since: Oct 12

Rostov-na-Donu

#11 Jun 4, 2013
Al-berto wrote:
<quoted text>Dear Leonid! I'm really surprised as it never did happend to me. This means you have one more reason to join my incentive!
If you've been banned for your opinions and not for breaking ethics rules of a fair communication, we still on the same boat.
Truly it did never happend to me in topix ever before.
Ofcourse not.=) There was just link to livejournal. Show me your text from RT. I can write this, in RT from my Twitter account. We look it.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#12 Jun 4, 2013
Leonid's posts aren't "banned" but rather prevented from appearing? Meaning they don't get removed. They don't appear in the first place.

Topix does not allow links from people posting from Russia but he is allowed to say whatever he likes.

As far as I know, the only posts that do not appear are the ones that have links.

It doesn't seem to matter if the link is to a website in Russia or not. If he includes ANY link in his comment, it's blocked somehow and the post will not appear.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#13 Jun 4, 2013
Leonid-Rostow wrote:
<quoted text>Ofcourse not.=) There was just link to livejournal. Show me your text from RT. I can write this, in RT from my Twitter account. We look it.
You are one of the nicest people I've ever met on this site!

“Hello. America? It's me.”

Since: Oct 12

Rostov-na-Donu

#14 Jun 5, 2013
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>You are one of the nicest people I've ever met on this site!
Thanks, but I don't think so. I standart ordinary man.

To topikstarter, I checked, works. my comment there #7 (Leo 05.06.2013 09:15)

Since: Apr 13

Podolsk, Russia

#15 Jun 5, 2013
No media really support free speech, all are biased. Western TV chanels like Fox news are biased a way more than RT.

You had no problem with topix cause you didn`t write what irritates them. There`s a kid overhere who is always gets banned because he writes anti semitic posts.
JewSS run America

Podgorica, Montenegro

#16 Jun 6, 2013
Russian Ubermensch wrote:
No media really support free speech, all are biased. Western TV chanels like Fox news are biased a way more than RT.
You had no problem with topix cause you didn`t write what irritates them. There`s a kid overhere who is always gets banned because he writes anti white posts.
Fox News is the ONLY News in America that in not completly run by Jews...

But Jews, Liberals and NeoCons now want to take Fox News as well..

This Jewish Supremacy is so Big that no Group of people in Human Histroy haved so much power like Jew shave today.

Btw.....RT is Jew-Run Media who do not represent REAL Russian People.

That is why need Autoriterian Governmant.
In Plutocratic Governmants,the Jews control Mass Media!
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#17 Jun 6, 2013
Leonid-Rostow wrote:
<quoted text>Ofcourse not.=) There was just link to livejournal. Show me your text from RT. I can write this, in RT from my Twitter account. We look it.
:), Thank You Leonid. It is in my first post, but it really does not matter so much as it will be appart from the context. Furthermore the problem raised in this topix is s.th. different from the Status of Rep. of Kosova.

The big problem is, IF BIG SERIOUSE MEDIA who pretend to be promoting the free speech, are not prepared to listen to the alternative opinions, what can you expect to happen with a more radicalised component of the society who not rarely is the government itselves?

Today your opinion may be inline with RT, but as a free thinker an other day it may be not. If your right of speach will be banned by the will of some person who "Filter" your opinion, this is a really a very dangerouse indicator. The argument may turn in a second hand importance and an other and bigger problem may rise.

Of course the Peace and Good Neighbouring in Balkan is not at all a second hand problem, but an other one come to surface, The level of Democraty in Russia and the Fredom of Speech.

We still having the same problem but with different target. Some time it is hard to veryfy the positions (i seems that we are in opposite coasts), and for this misunderstanding, some media also are not giving the needed contribution.

My topix didn't intend the status of Kosova. It intended exclusively the way how my opinion was treated.
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#18 Jun 6, 2013
Russian Ubermensch wrote:
No media really support free speech, all are biased. Western TV chanels like Fox news are biased a way more than RT.
You had no problem with topix cause you didn`t write what irritates them. There`s a kid overhere who is always gets banned because he writes anti semitic posts.
I quite agree totally with you. That was my complain since the very begining. The way some media FILTER your opinion.

That's why I started this topix, and brought some real experience since the very beginning.

If you have similar experiences, you should not remain silent. Whatever it is a Eastern or Western phenomenom, it still the same.

Of course you should be inline with some regulatory rules who not only does not limit, but help the freedom of speech and the alterated opinion.
Al-berto

Tirana, Albania

#19 Jun 6, 2013
-sunshine wrote:
Leonid's posts aren't "banned" but rather prevented from appearing? Meaning they don't get removed. They don't appear in the first place.
Topix does not allow links from people posting from Russia but he is allowed to say whatever he likes.
As far as I know, the only posts that do not appear are the ones that have links.
It doesn't seem to matter if the link is to a website in Russia or not. If he includes ANY link in his comment, it's blocked somehow and the post will not appear.
Hi -sunshine!
Topix (on my opinion) is a very big site where the ideas face each other. Considering it's importance, bigger become the responsibility to manage it properly.

I know and I consider (I repeated it quite in all my comments) it is very important to be followed some rules who does not filter the ideas but the behaviour of commenter. But risking to fall in the censure of ideas, some time it is better to not be rigid in this rule.

An other thing I would consider. There is not geospatial limits in the freedom of speech. I do not understand why you thinking limitations may be applied on Russian or whatever users.
The Iron Dictator

Podgorica, Montenegro

#20 Jun 6, 2013
Al-berto wrote:
<quoted text>Hi -sunshine!
Topix (on my opinion) is a very big site where the ideas face each other. Considering it's importance, bigger become the responsibility to manage it properly.
I know and I consider (I repeated it quite in all my comments) it is very important to be followed some rules who does not filter the ideas but the behaviour of commenter. But risking to fall in the censure of ideas, some time it is better to not be rigid in this rule.
An other thing I would consider. There is not geospatial limits in the freedom of speech. I do not understand why you thinking limitations may be applied on Russian or whatever users.
Sometimes people need Censorship,when they talk same crap again and again,..

And never forget....'Nothing is Free'

Since: Apr 13

Podolsk, Russia

#21 Jun 6, 2013
Al-berto wrote:
<quoted text>I quite agree totally with you. That was my complain since the very begining. The way some media FILTER your opinion.
That's why I started this topix, and brought some real experience since the very beginning.
If you have similar experiences, you should not remain silent. Whatever it is a Eastern or Western phenomenom, it still the same.
Of course you should be inline with some regulatory rules who not only does not limit, but help the freedom of speech and the alterated opinion.
I don`t think that deleting comments is limitation of free speech. Internet site is private or corporative property and owners can delete what they dislike. Just like anybody can create his own blog and to delete any comments.

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