Russia should abolish the obligatory service?

Created by european2012 on Jan 20, 2013

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#42 Jan 28, 2013
I`m telling you statistics no historian, including Canadian historian is going to deny.

And what you are telling me back?

That somedoby was confused like it proves your point. lol.
No one from Ukraine would be confused because every Ukrainian family has veterans and a lot of them were killed during that war.

No one was ever brainwashed about the role of yje allies. There was no need for that. It`s enough to tell the hard truth - USSR had destroyed 70 % of German divisi

ons that`s all.

You on the other hand were brainwashed, since you tell pure propoganda about hardliners and that Soviets didn`t liberate prisoners of German camps.
Go to Israel and ask the ex prisoners of Aushvits who did liberate them!

Losses of the allies were insignificant in comparison with losses of USSR, Germany, Poland, Hungary and Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia did help to USSR much more than all the allies until 6th of June 1944.
Yugoslavia had engaged 600 000 of German troops in battles while Germans had no more than 100 000 in Northern Africa.

This was the west that had this war started. American and European capital is resposible than Hitler came to power. Do you know that Henry Ford had an iron cross? Yea you don`t like a stupid Canadian chimp you are.
Jay

Sherwood Park, Canada

#43 Jan 28, 2013
Hey snapper head sure the camps where liberated but reused by your commie friends during occupation. Yugoslavia eh, the croats worked with the nazis retard and the chetnik partisans of serbs where getting air dropped supplies from commonwealth nations not russians. I read the nazi account of yugoslavia they almost immediatley withdrew most bulk force divisions because of terrain difficulties alone, mountainous, hilly, with mud slides thus the tactic that came into play was taking and holding the capital cities. Serbs on horse back where an incredible force in hind sight. Ya i get it you think theres no fuel in north africa because your old commie teachers said so. lol. Ussr shot there own too retard, allies at least played it smart for the most part, bomb strategic supply routes cut the nazis off confront then extract thus they dwindle their supplies and retreat or get crushed by western might. Give someone else an American history lesson. The maple leaf couldnt care less.

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#44 Jan 28, 2013
Yes you have as much of brains as Canadian maples. lol.

Germany was not Yugoslavia to be crushed by American air force. Besides, flight deep in Germany had become possible when USSR had liberated UKraine aand the allies where planes of the allies had refueled their planes. American airforce did not crush such countries as Korea and Vietnam where you bloody killers droped several times more bombs than you did during 2nd ww!

Western supplies? Yea, Soviet soldiers had a joke about it. When they opened cans with Aerican beef they were telling - we are opening the 2nd front. lol.

Germany recieved oil from Romania and Hungary. Germany produced synthetic gas from coal. No oil was pumped in Africa during 2ww.

Yagoslavians had engaged 600 000 of Germans while you had only 100 000 of them. Yagoslavians helped better than the allies alright.

You had kept millions of soldiers in UK without any use untill it had become clear that USSR will liberate Europe without the allies.

I don`t say that that would be good for the people of USSR though, since there would be more casualties in that case.
Jay

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#46 Jan 30, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
Yes you have as much of brains as Canadian maples. lol.
Germany was not Yugoslavia to be crushed by American air force. Besides, flight deep in Germany had become possible when USSR had liberated UKraine aand the allies where planes of the allies had refueled their planes. American airforce did not crush such countries as Korea and Vietnam where you bloody killers droped several times more bombs than you did during 2nd ww!
Western supplies? Yea, Soviet soldiers had a joke about it. When they opened cans with Aerican beef they were telling - we are opening the 2nd front. lol.
Germany recieved oil from Romania and Hungary. Germany produced synthetic gas from coal. No oil was pumped in Africa during 2ww.
Yagoslavians had engaged 600 000 of Germans while you had only 100 000 of them. Yagoslavians helped better than the allies alright.
You had kept millions of soldiers in UK without any use untill it had become clear that USSR will liberate Europe without the allies.
I don`t say that that would be good for the people of USSR though, since there would be more casualties in that case.
1) America is not considered a commonwealth country, so Yugoslav supplies and advisors where mostly Brit, Canuck, Australian (PS Yugoslavs didn't trust or like soviets)
2) there's more than fuel and potential conscript manpower in North Africa strategic routes like Suez Canal
3) there was a very secret plan that is public now the bulk forces kept in Britain where staging for invasion yes, but held back because Churchill had staged aircraft with biological weapons to be deployed in Germany land invaded. The planes had spray systems for anthrax, which would have rendered Germany unlivable for over 100 years, they tested this weapons grade product off of Scotland and still to this day annually airdrop crates of sheep on the island and monitor how long they live... Usually all dead in one week. They also focused on weapon caches and creation of a resistance all over the UK.
Korea was won by UN forces who after taking North Korea where pushed back to the 38 th parallel where the war began by the Chinese who got involved because an American general wanted to bomb china with atomic bombs and considering less than 7 years earlier the US did just that to Japan the Chinese took it seriously and the yank general was removed. Vietnam was a lost war yes but in battlefield operations the US won ever battle. Ideology war democracy vs communism, US lost public support and conscription doesn't work so with money piling up in bills they withdrew. Otherwise they would have to invade Laos, Cambodia, and eventually China and even Russia thus it's not worth the bloodshed and expenditure. A generation of people wanted peace at all costs. Rightfully so. Individual countries have to find the courage to dethrone communism much like Ukraine, Poland and East Germany and one can argue Russia too.

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#47 Jan 31, 2013
Russsia is clearly not a communistic country.
I don`t know who can argue that.
Probably the same idiots which don`t consider Russians as white.
That doesnt mean Russians are really not white or Russia is communistic.
That only means that your government are fools.

I really don`t give too much of credit to Canada.
On my opinion this is a jackal which follows the American tiger.

Well, speaking about British commonwealth I like more Australia. This is really peacefull country which tries to be away from American imperialism.

Australia used to mendle in none Australian business either.

I don`t understand why Australian soldiers died in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East during both world wars.

If Russia would be located where Australia or Canada are I`m sure no Russian soldier would be sent to fight in Europe.

Russia fought hundreds wars during it`s history and all of them were either in Russia itself or somewhere near.

We consiider our army firt and foremost as the defender not as a colonizator to enforce on other people our way of life like you Americans do and like Brits did.

That`s why obligatory military service can exist in Russia. Anybody is oliged to defend his country and Russia don`t go fighting thousands miles away from Russia like USA does.

Since: Sep 12

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#48 Jan 31, 2013
Alexey25, Australian soldiers had to fight in Europe because of the commonwealth, just like Canadian soldiers, Gurkhas, Indians, etc.

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#49 Jan 31, 2013
They were in Europe fighting the Hitler loving peasants from Hungary.

You are a bloody peasant Realtrash. Hehehehe.
Jay

Sherwood Park, Canada

#50 Feb 3, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
Russsia is clearly not a communistic country.
I don`t know who can argue that.
Probably the same idiots which don`t consider Russians as white.
That doesnt mean Russians are really not white or Russia is communistic.
That only means that your government are fools.
I really don`t give too much of credit to Canada.
On my opinion this is a jackal which follows the American tiger.
Well, speaking about British commonwealth I like more Australia. This is really peacefull country which tries to be away from American imperialism.
Australia used to mendle in none Australian business either.
I don`t understand why Australian soldiers died in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East during both world wars.
If Russia would be located where Australia or Canada are I`m sure no Russian soldier would be sent to fight in Europe.
Russia fought hundreds wars during it`s history and all of them were either in Russia itself or somewhere near.
We consiider our army firt and foremost as the defender not as a colonizator to enforce on other people our way of life like you Americans do and like Brits did.
That`s why obligatory military service can exist in Russia. Anybody is oliged to defend his country and Russia don`t go fighting thousands miles away from Russia like USA does.
Australia was also in Afghanistan and Iraq, New Zealand too. We signed into NATO thus we follow through with that obligation, not Iraq though. As for empires grabbing land ect.. Not Canada, wasn't russia fighting in Chechnya, Afghanistan and didn't russian soviet units crush the Czech uprisings ? Russian advisors have been global, not contained to Russian borders.

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