EU unites against Russia

May 27, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Standard

“There is a general rethinking that being divided doesn't help anybody in the EU anymore”

The European Union's 27 fragmented members are discovering new unity in the face of a Russia emboldened by oil and gas wealth and increasingly willing to pressure the EU's new members in Eastern Europe. via The Standard

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Well, I wrote it for people who find this article in Topix. I meant that it implies further reading and investigating the matter in more detail - else its reader will be mislead by its tone.
Indeed! That makes sense. The posters on the Russia site tend to be russophobes who always assume the worst. Poland and other Eastern europeans who accept missles in their countries, are inviting trouble because Russia is not going to take such news without retaliation.

furthermore..... It is so hypocritical for the USA to take the components for making nuclear weapons from countries like Ukraine, on the pretext of "securing nuclear weapons". They are asking those countries to get rid of their nuclear weapons, while the USa continues to upgrade their missles and to place them in places like Eastern Europe.

One has to be totally prejudiced against Russia to think that the USA's double standards on nuclear weapons is right. It is not.

Good for Russia for countering the USA's measjures by pointing their missles at the new missles in Poland. Western hypocrisy be damned. Russia has the right to defend their country., their people and their resources. They do not belong to the west.

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The "Muscovite Rus" are nothing more than a twisted version of the original Rus. The Muscovites were buggered up the arse for so many years by their Mongol overlords that they took on the traits of the Mongols.
Who let this filthy-mouthed, biased, hate-filled russophobe out of his cage. Put him back until he learns how to speak without the filth he spreads on these pages.

By the way, notice how this biased hate-filled Russophobe now hides behind a picture of a Russian, Boris Yeltsin, an no longer shows his ugly gob on facebook. Could it be that he is too cowardly to show his real face anymore, because of his filthy mouth???? LOlololol!

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Russians are the best looking people, the most talented and the best of surviving their jealous and demented detractors. Go Russia, go Putin, and go away russophobes.

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Ha ha ha ha ha! So true!!!
Ha ha ha! So false wannabe Rus.

RUSSIA,UKRAINE AND BELARUS ARE THE LAND OF THE RUS. And Sweden is but a bunch of brutal killers, land of the vikings.... destroyers of beauty and culture, long defeated by the Rus and kicked out of Russia where they never belonged and never will belong.

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russia sucks big time
Russia, its people and accomplishments shine big time.

Unlike the poster hiding behind anonymity, even his location.

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In your eyes, but then Estonians were the first to run into the Hitlers warm embrace. I have no sympathy for scum.
Until its defeat by the powerful Red Army NAZI Germany will be remembered as the greatest war machine humankind had ever seen. It was the communists who brought it to its end.
Precisely! and ....in spite of the "rewitten history" and claims by the jonny come-lately Americans who sat out most of the war safely and came in just in time to liberate, tiny Holland, the collaborating french and the Nazi allied Italy. The war was fought and won in Russia and humanity, which was being butchered by the german nazis was saved thanks to the Russians/Soviet Union.

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The pbony baloney filthy-mouth hiding behind a picture of Boris Yeltsin once again adds nothing to the discussion. Russian history and the excesses of GEORGIAN stalin, have nothing to do with WWII but with Russian history.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93...
"Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_...
"Soviet invasion of Poland"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo-NKVD_Con...
"Gestapo-NKVD Conferences"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
"Katyn massacre"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_ma...
"NKVD prisoner massacres"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German –Soviet_Commercial_Agreement
"German–Soviet Commercial Agreement"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93S...
"German–Soviet Axis talks"
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
The worst genocides of the 20th Century
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
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Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)

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And, as to the whiney why_me's allusions to the division of Poland in 1939 the British and the POles has their own little pacifications of HItler in hopes of staying out of war. Since nobody would ally with Russia to stop Hitler, Russia, disadvantaged by being behind thanks to the catastrophic events of WWI, the Russian Revolution and civil war and the purges of Stalin, and who was just modernizing Russia were not finished and in no shape to take on a war. Hence, they signed a NON-AGRESSION PACT WITH THE NAZIS.

It was the NAZIS own arrogance and ignorance in underestimating the strides made in Russian Industrialization and new weapons like the magnificent, innovative, T-34 tank and weapons which worked no matter what which led to their demise. Like Napolean and others they greatly underestimated Russia's determination to throw the murderous, homicidal, genocidal, German NaZIS out of Eastern Europe.

Thank you brave Soviet soldiers, people, and partizans for accomplishing the great feat of defeating the Nazis and saving humanity. We owe you a great deal.

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And you are a lunatic with multiple personality disorder. Get some meds and quick.
What a nice guy to want to share your meds, but it sounds like you desperately need them yourself.

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Poland ceased to exist under international law as soon as their govt fled into exile. The Molotov-Ribberntrop Pact became null and void. As for the invasion, I think you should write, "Soviet march into the area formerly known as Poland"
Funny isn't it how the biased, hate-filled Russophobes beserk over the partitian in Poland. You don't see them beserking over the first two partitions of pland in which Germany got a chunk of Poland, or the second partition of Poland in which poland ceased to exist as Austria took chunk as well. The Poles can thank Russia for helping to keep their Slavic culture by making sure that Germany and Austria didn't take all of Poland for themselves.

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Stalin was far to soft. These numbers don't do him justice at all. Many more traitors continued to live and spread ideas of fascism.
Lol!!!!!

AND ACTUALLY IT WAS maO tSE tUNG WHO IS THE WORST GENOCIDER OF THE 20TH CENTURY. THANKS TO HITLER'S GENOCIDAL POLICY IN EASTERN EUROPE, MILLIONS MORE DIED, IN ADDITION TO THE 14 MILLION SLAVS KILLED IN THE DEATH CAMPS.

WITH 75, MILLION DEATHS THANKS TO wwii AND MOST OF THEM TAKING PLACE IN Russia and Eastern Europe once could argue easily that the nazis were responsible for more deaths than the black plague, let alone the 20th century.

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LOL...Those Mongol Horde offpsring the Muscovite Rus allied with Hitler and invaded Poland and occupied eastern Europe.

Russia defeated the mongol hordes centuries ago. Russians are slavs and at the top as European aryans. And your lies don't matter one whit, because Russians and Slavs are still the best looking people, artistic and bright and most of all they are survivors. You lies and nasty talk will not change that.

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[QUOTE who="Why_Me"]<quo ted text>You call a peach an apple, but it's still an orange.
Proof of how you make no sense at all. Nobody cares about your biased, hate-filled Russophobic opinion of Russians and Slavs. Get back to counting toilets, plumber.

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I personally don't care what happened to Poland, nor if it ceased existing forever. As far as im concerned they didnt deserve a state of their own, nor did they stay onto fight for it>>>the leadership ran away when the Nazis came. Not the Red Army.
AMEN!. However, the Poles did fight as partizans. They did not collaborate witht he Germans like the French and three million of them died in Auschwitz. And had they waited for the Americans to save them. They would have all perished, if the Red Army hadn't come to their rescure, running the Germans out of Poland.

The Americans were too busy waiting until the last possible minute to get in on the action before it was all over, and they didn't care if all poles or Eastern Europeans died, before they got there. All the easier for them to forgive the Germans and support them will tens of billions of dollars for over 20 years to fix their problems.

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What BS.
The Red Army ran away from the Germans as well in 1941 despite being a much bigger army then the Polish army and not being attacked from two criminal nations (Nazi Germany & Soviet Russia) like the Poles were.
And nobody cares if Russia implodes today and ceases to exist because of its dying population, bad demographics and southern regions in turmoil now in the Chechnya-Georgia region and along the China border.
In the beginning, Russia was overwhelmned by the sneak attack, and was lacking officers.
Stalin who didn't trust anyone had murdered off the military heads, and Russia was not yet done with its industrialization of the country. Everything could not be done in the snap of a genies fingersa. And everyone had to wait for Stalin to decide what to do. But Russians did not run, too many of them were captured by the Germanjs and shot or stuck in Auschwitz. They should have run, because there is nothing wrong with running away to fight another day. After the chaos of the surprise attack, Russia stopped the Germies at Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad, kicked their butts at Stalingrad and finished off Germanys armor and ability to go on the offensive at the greatest tank battle of Kursk/Orel. After that it was the Germans running all the way home to Berlin, wreaking enormous havoc and continuing to murder off all human beings who walked, by means of burning them alive in the biggest buildings in each town they went through.

So they were TRULY OFFENSIVE EACH DAY OF THE WAR, EVEN IN THEIR ROUT TO gERMANY.

Everyone cares about Russia. And nobody cares if you do or not.

For your information. Russia is not going to implode. The worst mistake Russia made was its stupid drunken leader Boris Yelsin and former leader Gorbachev trusting the americans and the wonderful west, who did nothing but bring the worst human catastrophne to Russia since WWII, and who tried to grab resources and the learned, scientific and artistic people for themselves. leaving the rest of the population to suffer and die from lack of jobs, money,. medical care....

Thanks to Putin, who put a stop to all of that, Russia is on its way back. There will be no imploding, which you dream of.....and the hard-working Russians will work to save their nation, and not the chechyn murderers, bolstered by western money and alcaida nor the chinese bolstered by American money and jobs and their reverse engineering of copying Russian weapons will do any damage to Russia.

As always. Russia will abide and in time will not only survive but thrive and the wonderful west will still be trying year by year to learn their secrets in military weapons and will be grabbing the talented people.

Go Russia!

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It was also the Soviet communists that helped build the Nazi war machine with ONE MILLION TONS of war aid (as per the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) that was later used on the Soviet Union.
When Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 the Soviet Russians ran away in droves which prompted the Soviet NKVD to literally put a gun to the Soviet soldiers heads to fight the Nazis there after, since the NKVD saw how frightened the Red army was of the Nazis which they helped build up with one million tons of war aid.
Russia sold food and other items in order to get the money to industrialize their coutnry,. which they handily did as the NAzis found out. The left Russia in a rout with their tails between their legs and no amount of their murdering could stop the Russians from running them out of their lands and saving the people of Eastern Europe.

You seem to thing that early successes make the difference. It didn't work for the NAZIs against Russia just like it didn't work in politics.

Just ask our President Barak Obama. Mitt Romney won the first debate, but Obama kicked butt in the second debate.

Romney and the Republicans were sure that they would win and Romney would be president, however, the Republicans were stunned to be the big losers in their quest to protect the 2 percent of the rich from having to pay their fair share.

YOu are trying to make a big deal out of nothing.

He who laughs last laughs best. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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When is Russia going to stop surviving on the backs of all its neighbor nations? Why can't Russia have good relations with ANY of its neighboring nations?
YOu are really delluded. England survived on the backs of other nations, from stealing the fabric industry from India to each of the nations they stole from around the world. Why do you think the Americans had a Boston Tea party? The British bragged about the sun never setting on the British empire. Well it has set but even with the west meddling in Russian affairs after the fall of the Soviet Union, the sun still does not set on the Russian Federation, as the sun rises in the east just as it is setting in the west.

And think of the repulsive way that the wonderful west is "surviving on the backs of Russia. They stole all of the oLYMPIC COACHES, SCIENTISTS AND ARTIST, CIRCUS PERFORMERS AND BALLET TALENT.

And thanks to the meddling of the wonderful west... the people of eastern Europe are at the mercy of billionairs stealing the countries welath and spending it in the wonderful west. The west has brought nothing but destruction to Eastern Europe.

and they don't bat an eyelash at the thought of how many hu8ndreds of thousands of people stolen from eastern Europe to be whored to death in the white slave trade. The USa is the biggest user of white slaves.

So spare me you idiotic whining and crying about being on the backs of other nations. The USA and the wonderful west has done and continued to do plenty of "SURVING" ON THE BACKS OF OTHER NATIONS AND ITS PEOPLE.

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Later. Duty calls.
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Proof of how you make no sense at all. Nobody cares about your biased, hate-filled Russophobic opinion of Russians and Slavs. Get back to counting toilets, plumber.
I hear he got drunk, passed out in one and drowned.
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As for the EU and HATO Ukraine should steer clear. It is always best to avoid entangling alliances with evil empires in search of lebensraum. The EU and HATO are no different than the Roman Empire, the Mongol Tatars and the Ottoman Turks.

It is always a mistake to invite the...

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